April 3
File:Coagula.jpg
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗ plicit 23:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Coagula.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Владлен Манилов ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
In contravention of WP:NFCC#8, there is no sourced prose or critical commentary on the appearance of this character that requires copyrighted material ( File:Coagula.jpg) to illustrate.Nobody replied. 7.88 months later, I asked there,
Given the above, IAW the NFCC, are there objections to removing the unnecessary copyrighted material from the article?Nobody objected. 1.76 years after that, I removed the NFC saying,
- NFC IAW Talk:Coagula#NFC updateInstead of contributing to the then-2.42-year-old discussion, Aspects ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) replaced the NFC on 21 March 2024 and said it had been deleted without discussion (
rv unexplained file deletion), despite (a) not having been deleted and (b) having been explained extensively. When I asked that same day for an explanation of what prose and text of the article needed the NFC to be understood per WP:NFCC#8, Aspects ignored the discussion again, despite having been editing on-site in the interim. Receiving no reply whatsoever, I removed the copyrighted material on 29 March (again saying
- NFC IAW Talk:Coagula#NFC update), and I updated the talk page to explain that edit. Despite still having been editing in the interim, Aspects did not reply or respond until 3 April when they reverted yet again and replied on the talk page, requiring me to move this discussion here, lest they ban me for edit-warring, while still accusing me of deleting files.I've repeatedly asked for whichever additional reliable sources discuss this character such that they need NFC to be understood, but no editors nor administrators have provided such. In contravention of WP:NFCC#8, there is no sourced prose or critical commentary on the appearance of this character that requires copyrighted material ( File:Coagula.jpg) to illustrate. […] There's nothing written in this article the understanding of which is dependent upon or assisted by the NFC; in fact, no aspect of the character's appearance is mentioned at all, for that matter, failing the requirement of WP:NFCC#8. I'm unconcerned with the file's deletion or not; it just isn't needed in this article. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 19:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since the file is a picture of the character used in the infobox on the character's article to identify the subject, thereby passes
WP:NFCC, specifically
WP:NFC#CS.
Aspects (
talk) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't address my concerns. (If that's still intentional, please disregard this comment.) Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, a policy with legal considerations, says that "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." In this article, please point to that which is less understandable without the presence of File:Coagula.jpg. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:55, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Bizarre rationale, there is no good reason to avoid using images of fictional characters.
★Trekker (
talk) 11:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure our "bizarre" policies require explicit good reasons to use all copyrighted media. The article itself doesn't currently provide one. Do you have the reliable secondary sources that discuss this character's appearance, which we can incorporate into the article, such that the article then needs NFC to illustrate and understand? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:00, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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File:Bedri Pejani, Albanian Politician.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit 23:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Bedri Pejani, Albanian Politician.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Dhimiter Beratti.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Dhimiter Tutulani.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Ilo Mitkë Qafëzëzi.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Haxhi Lleshi 1944.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PawełMM ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Koci Bako, hero i popullit.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Muharrem Bajraktari, 15 May 1896 — 21 January 1989.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Mujo Ulqinaku.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Nako-spiru.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Omer Nishani 1944.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PawełMM ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Perlat Rexhepi.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Petro Poga.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Prenk Pervizi, Albanian Military.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Qemal Karaosmani 2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 1.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 3.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian Army.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian Gendarmerie.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian guard.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Syrja Bey Vlora, Ottoman and Albanian politician.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Army Air.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Albanian images from after 1928 that are still copyrighted in the USA due to the URAA. None of them are in use (in article space). Felix QW ( talk) 19:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, unused and likely still copyrighted in the US. Note: A number of the Vinie007 uploads have as their stated source a book from 1936 called "Libri e Ustishe te Zogus". I can find no mention of this book online, but if verified, those images can be undeleted in 2032. ( File:Royal Army Air.jpg claims to come from the 1931 edition, whose copyright would expire in 2026.) Wikiacc ( ¶) 00:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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April 3
File:Coagula.jpg
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗ plicit 23:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Coagula.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Владлен Манилов ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
In contravention of WP:NFCC#8, there is no sourced prose or critical commentary on the appearance of this character that requires copyrighted material ( File:Coagula.jpg) to illustrate.Nobody replied. 7.88 months later, I asked there,
Given the above, IAW the NFCC, are there objections to removing the unnecessary copyrighted material from the article?Nobody objected. 1.76 years after that, I removed the NFC saying,
- NFC IAW Talk:Coagula#NFC updateInstead of contributing to the then-2.42-year-old discussion, Aspects ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) replaced the NFC on 21 March 2024 and said it had been deleted without discussion (
rv unexplained file deletion), despite (a) not having been deleted and (b) having been explained extensively. When I asked that same day for an explanation of what prose and text of the article needed the NFC to be understood per WP:NFCC#8, Aspects ignored the discussion again, despite having been editing on-site in the interim. Receiving no reply whatsoever, I removed the copyrighted material on 29 March (again saying
- NFC IAW Talk:Coagula#NFC update), and I updated the talk page to explain that edit. Despite still having been editing in the interim, Aspects did not reply or respond until 3 April when they reverted yet again and replied on the talk page, requiring me to move this discussion here, lest they ban me for edit-warring, while still accusing me of deleting files.I've repeatedly asked for whichever additional reliable sources discuss this character such that they need NFC to be understood, but no editors nor administrators have provided such. In contravention of WP:NFCC#8, there is no sourced prose or critical commentary on the appearance of this character that requires copyrighted material ( File:Coagula.jpg) to illustrate. […] There's nothing written in this article the understanding of which is dependent upon or assisted by the NFC; in fact, no aspect of the character's appearance is mentioned at all, for that matter, failing the requirement of WP:NFCC#8. I'm unconcerned with the file's deletion or not; it just isn't needed in this article. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 19:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since the file is a picture of the character used in the infobox on the character's article to identify the subject, thereby passes
WP:NFCC, specifically
WP:NFC#CS.
Aspects (
talk) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't address my concerns. (If that's still intentional, please disregard this comment.) Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, a policy with legal considerations, says that "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." In this article, please point to that which is less understandable without the presence of File:Coagula.jpg. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:55, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Bizarre rationale, there is no good reason to avoid using images of fictional characters.
★Trekker (
talk) 11:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure our "bizarre" policies require explicit good reasons to use all copyrighted media. The article itself doesn't currently provide one. Do you have the reliable secondary sources that discuss this character's appearance, which we can incorporate into the article, such that the article then needs NFC to illustrate and understand? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:00, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
File:Bedri Pejani, Albanian Politician.jpg
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more files. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit 23:31, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- File:Bedri Pejani, Albanian Politician.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Dhimiter Beratti.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Dhimiter Tutulani.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Ilo Mitkë Qafëzëzi.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Haxhi Lleshi 1944.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PawełMM ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Koci Bako, hero i popullit.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Muharrem Bajraktari, 15 May 1896 — 21 January 1989.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Mujo Ulqinaku.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Nako-spiru.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Omer Nishani 1944.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PawełMM ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Perlat Rexhepi.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Petro Poga.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Prenk Pervizi, Albanian Military.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Qemal Karaosmani 2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 1.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian army 3.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian Army.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian Gendarmerie.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Albanian guard.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Syrja Bey Vlora, Ottoman and Albanian politician.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mondiad ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Royal Army Air.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vinie007 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Albanian images from after 1928 that are still copyrighted in the USA due to the URAA. None of them are in use (in article space). Felix QW ( talk) 19:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, unused and likely still copyrighted in the US. Note: A number of the Vinie007 uploads have as their stated source a book from 1936 called "Libri e Ustishe te Zogus". I can find no mention of this book online, but if verified, those images can be undeleted in 2032. ( File:Royal Army Air.jpg claims to come from the 1931 edition, whose copyright would expire in 2026.) Wikiacc ( ¶) 00:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the file's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.