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User:Junglecat/marriage ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) ( restore | cache | MfD) User:UBX/onemanonewoman ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) ( restore | cache | MfD)
There are any number of process problems here. For one, these userboxes were nominated along with two grossly inflammatory ones that were in no way appropriate. They should have been considered separately from the beginning. Secondly, at the point that the discussion was closed, it had run for just over a day and purely from a head-counting standpoint, keeps were outnumbering deletes. The closer substituted his own opinion for the opinions of those commenting - there is no policy reason that demands the deletion of these userboxes. It is a fact of life that for the majority of the world, marriage is between one man and one woman. Whether you agree with that or not, it is the law of the land. In the US, it's a hot button political issue, but every President, including President Obama, has opposed same sex marriage. Stating such could not reasonably be called so inflammatory as to demand speedy deletion. On the other hand, User:Tal642/my userboxes/SanerWorldNoReligion, that neither this closer nor anyone advocating the deletion seems to have a problem with, advocates either the extermination or forcible conversion of people of faith. I wouldn't be at all opposed to abolishing all user boxes that advocate a political position beyond simply stating a party or religious identity (eg, I am a Libertarian, I am a Catholic, I am Islamic), but until such time as that happens, selective enforcement of unapproved points of view is not a positive for the project and only contributes to hurt feelings. Personally, I am offended by a great deal of userpage content, but I recognize that I have no right on Wikipedia not to be offended. I also disagree with those who would call for a national so-called "sanctity of marriage amendment" or other such things. But this isn't about what I agree with - it's about whether or not it is appropriate to censor unpopular points of view in user space or for administrators to substitute their own preferences in place of community decision. Thank you. -- B ( talk) 22:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
← This is essentially the reason I closed it; there is a middle ground here, like the one Guy suggests and the one I did in my closing statement. Consensus is leaning towards relist; if anyone believes that should be within my remit and prerogative, please say so and I will relist per this discussion. Xavexgoem ( talk) 00:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Chris Willis ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore | cache | AfD)) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Willis should be deleted... This individual is a barely known back up singer and secondary supporting artist... There is no evidence that he is famous or his solo career releases or main performances are noteworthy... In fact, all articles I have found support my premise for deletion: http://www.queerty.com/gay-singer-chris-willis-has-soul-20080729/ http://www.woozyfly.com/theskinnydip Never interviewed by billboard magazine, etc... Its an open/shut case...
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Samuel Purdey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore | cache | AfD)) I created the page for British rock group Samuel Purdey last week (which was then deleted). On the advice of a Wikipedia admin here, I recreated the article (in order to prevent further deletion while I worked on it) here at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rolluprob/Samuel_Purdey I have recently consulted admin RHaworth - who deleted the original article - and he suggested that I should post this at deletion review. I hope this is ok. The article has changed considerably since its deletion. And so, I would like for it to be reviewed where it now resides (no risk of deletion) before I attempt to recreate the page proper. Further support for the bands notability - currently at #13 in Japan's Kiss Fm Hit Chart.
http://www.kiss-fm.co.jp/pc/hit/hit_index.php
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Boxxy is the name given to a girl whose YouTube videos have become a viral phenomenon and internet meme, also causing great conflict on 4chan. The Boxxy phenomenon has been mentioned in The Guardian, an Australian journal, and two articles on a Dutch news site. This looks decent and here she is described as the new lonelygirl15. All three previous versions of Boxxy were speedily deleted and the page was protected against creation so I am opening a discussion here at WP:DRV. With these reliable sources the Boxxy phenomenon clearly meets WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:BLP and so an article should be created as a notable meme and internet personality. Hospitality Flawless ( talk) 13:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
User:Junglecat/marriage ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) ( restore | cache | MfD) User:UBX/onemanonewoman ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) ( restore | cache | MfD)
There are any number of process problems here. For one, these userboxes were nominated along with two grossly inflammatory ones that were in no way appropriate. They should have been considered separately from the beginning. Secondly, at the point that the discussion was closed, it had run for just over a day and purely from a head-counting standpoint, keeps were outnumbering deletes. The closer substituted his own opinion for the opinions of those commenting - there is no policy reason that demands the deletion of these userboxes. It is a fact of life that for the majority of the world, marriage is between one man and one woman. Whether you agree with that or not, it is the law of the land. In the US, it's a hot button political issue, but every President, including President Obama, has opposed same sex marriage. Stating such could not reasonably be called so inflammatory as to demand speedy deletion. On the other hand, User:Tal642/my userboxes/SanerWorldNoReligion, that neither this closer nor anyone advocating the deletion seems to have a problem with, advocates either the extermination or forcible conversion of people of faith. I wouldn't be at all opposed to abolishing all user boxes that advocate a political position beyond simply stating a party or religious identity (eg, I am a Libertarian, I am a Catholic, I am Islamic), but until such time as that happens, selective enforcement of unapproved points of view is not a positive for the project and only contributes to hurt feelings. Personally, I am offended by a great deal of userpage content, but I recognize that I have no right on Wikipedia not to be offended. I also disagree with those who would call for a national so-called "sanctity of marriage amendment" or other such things. But this isn't about what I agree with - it's about whether or not it is appropriate to censor unpopular points of view in user space or for administrators to substitute their own preferences in place of community decision. Thank you. -- B ( talk) 22:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
← This is essentially the reason I closed it; there is a middle ground here, like the one Guy suggests and the one I did in my closing statement. Consensus is leaning towards relist; if anyone believes that should be within my remit and prerogative, please say so and I will relist per this discussion. Xavexgoem ( talk) 00:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Chris Willis ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore | cache | AfD)) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Willis should be deleted... This individual is a barely known back up singer and secondary supporting artist... There is no evidence that he is famous or his solo career releases or main performances are noteworthy... In fact, all articles I have found support my premise for deletion: http://www.queerty.com/gay-singer-chris-willis-has-soul-20080729/ http://www.woozyfly.com/theskinnydip Never interviewed by billboard magazine, etc... Its an open/shut case...
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Samuel Purdey ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) ( restore | cache | AfD)) I created the page for British rock group Samuel Purdey last week (which was then deleted). On the advice of a Wikipedia admin here, I recreated the article (in order to prevent further deletion while I worked on it) here at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rolluprob/Samuel_Purdey I have recently consulted admin RHaworth - who deleted the original article - and he suggested that I should post this at deletion review. I hope this is ok. The article has changed considerably since its deletion. And so, I would like for it to be reviewed where it now resides (no risk of deletion) before I attempt to recreate the page proper. Further support for the bands notability - currently at #13 in Japan's Kiss Fm Hit Chart.
http://www.kiss-fm.co.jp/pc/hit/hit_index.php
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it. |
Boxxy is the name given to a girl whose YouTube videos have become a viral phenomenon and internet meme, also causing great conflict on 4chan. The Boxxy phenomenon has been mentioned in The Guardian, an Australian journal, and two articles on a Dutch news site. This looks decent and here she is described as the new lonelygirl15. All three previous versions of Boxxy were speedily deleted and the page was protected against creation so I am opening a discussion here at WP:DRV. With these reliable sources the Boxxy phenomenon clearly meets WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:BLP and so an article should be created as a notable meme and internet personality. Hospitality Flawless ( talk) 13:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |