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Support per nom
Mason (
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Merge per nom, and template should be reformatted as {{
DRC-politician-stub}} per stub naming conventions. Her Pegship (?) 18:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Poughkeepsie–Newburgh–Middletown metropolitan area
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Nominator's rationale: In July 2023, the "Poughkeepsie–Newburgh–Middletown" MSA was officially renamed to the "Kiryas Joel–Poughkeepsie–Newburgh" MSA, by
OMB Bulletin 23-01 (see page 22, PDF page 25). The motivation for the rename is that in the 2020 census, Kiryas Joel is now the largest municipality in the MSA. The article name has already been moved, this is to update the Category name to match.
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Category:Independent Mexico
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Nominator's rationale:merge, odd combination of name and period, independence of Mexico did not end in 1876. It is not backed up by an article
Independent Mexico either.
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Support per nom
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Category:Khoja Ismailism
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Nominator's rationale: All of the members of this category are biographies of Khoja Ismailis. Ismailism is the sect. Ismaili people are Ismailis. It's like if there were a category called "Roman Catholicism" which was populated only by the biographies of Roman Catholic people instead of articles about the religion.
Dennis C. Abrams (
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Rename, this is clearly a category of biographies, not a category about the topic
Khoja Ismailism.
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Category:Horn African people
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Support per nom
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Category:People temporarily excommunicated by the Catholic Church
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Nominator's rationale: Does this distinction really matter in terms of
WP:DEFINING?
Mason (
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Merge, there is no reason to make a distinction. With many articles in
Category:People excommunicated by the Catholic Church it is simply unclear whether the subjects were still excommunicated when they died, or alternatively they left the Catholic Church so that the excommunication became moot.
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Category:21st-century Cebuano male singers
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse these category at the intersection of occupation, gender, and ethnic group by century
Mason (
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Totally fine with it :) Thanks for asking
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Category:Sufism Reoriented
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Nominator's rationale: Created a couple of days back, everything is already in the parent category
Category:Works by Meher Baba so there's no need to merge anything either. —
SpacemanSpiff 16:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
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Category:Egyptian seduction actresses
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The result of the discussion was:delete. LizRead!Talk! 18:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Not defining. No need to merge because the only page in here is already in 21st century Egyptian actresses
Mason (
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Support per nom. It is unclear what the term "seduction actress" means, and it is possibly defamatory / BLP violation.
SomethingForDeletion (
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I removed the only article in the category, due to the BLP concern, so this category is now empty.
SomethingForDeletion (
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Comment Yep, this category is empty now. It was also created by a sockpuppet but is not eligible for CSD G5. LizRead!Talk! 22:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Olympics coaches by sport and year
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Category:American journalists for national newspapers
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge with parent category.
Omnis Scientia (
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Merge, unhelpful distinction, most newspapers important enough to contain a journalists subcategory will inevatably be a national newspaper.
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Support per nom
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Category:Shreveport Times journalists
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Nominator's rationale: Merge with parent category. Not a lot of notable people for this particular newspaper.
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Category:The Hill (newspaper) journalists
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Nominator's rationale: Rename to expand the scope and add people who otherwise don't fit into these categories.
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Support per nom, seems like a reasonable expansion
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Category:The New York Times writers
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Support per nom
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Category:The New York Times sportswriters
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Nominator's rationale: merge first one per
WP:NARROWCAT; there is no other genre-specific NYT category or for any other newspaper.
Omnis Scientia (
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Also, and I don't know how relevant this is (or if it is at all), but the NY Times discontinued its sports section so this category won't be growing.
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Category:Years of the 10th century in art
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Category:Invertebrate attacks
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between verebrate and attack. At the very least Category:Invertebrate attacks needs to be purged.
Mason (
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Comment - LOL this whole section of wikipedia is so chaotic and I kind of love it but whatever you need or want to do gets no objection from me, I just wanted to mention that the generally laughable vertebrate-invertebrate "attack" category distinction was created by me as a way of bringing some semblance of order to the "bites and stings" (and maulings) grouped together in this template:
Template:Animal bites and stings -- do leopard attacks and cone snail darts have anything in common? Not really except they were animal-human interactions (that maybe didnt go so well for the human). So anyway I salute your attempts to tame this beast, as it were... Cheers,
jengod (
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Merge if only to
Category:Animal attacks by taxon because that is a redudant category layer with only two subcategories. I am not opposed to the nomination either.
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Category:Novels by Alexandre Dumas fils
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Category:1839 Swedish novels
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Category:Papermaking in Italy
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Sounds good to me
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Category:Fabergé-style eggs made after the Russian Revolution
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Nominator's rationale: Only one page and a category with a single painting in it. Delete for now. Having an artist and one painting isn't helpful for navigation
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Category:15th-century paintings in Denmark
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one page in here, which isn't very helpful for navigation
Mason (
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I'm also not convinced that this category scheme at the intersection of current location and century of creation is that helpful. I'd love some thoughts on
Category:Paintings in Denmark by century in general.
Mason (
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Until the 18th century it is very thinly populated, you might well nominate them too.
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Category:Mayors by city in Greenland
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Merge per nom. Though I am not entirely sure of the second merge target, it is not in Denmark proper.
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Category:20th-century Tunisian male artists
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The result of the discussion was:merge to Category:Xth-century Tunisian artists.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to diffuse Tunisian male artists by century for 2 people.
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Category:Former administrative divisions of Egypt
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Merge or reverse merge per nom. I vaguely remember a debate about "subdivision" seemingly not being a proper English word in this context and "administrative division" being the proper term. If that is the case it should be a reverse merge.
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Category:19th-century Egyptian economists
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Category:Novels by Wolfgang Koeppen
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. It's already in Category: 1954 German novels
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Category:Novels by Ewald Gerhard Seeliger
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. Already in Category:1913 German novels.
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Category:Novels by Felix Hollaender
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. (Page is already in the plausible merge target 1912 german novels)
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation.
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Category:Novels by Friedrich de la Motte Fouqué
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Category:11th-century ships
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Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. There's only four ships in here, and none of them are actually specific to the 11th-century.
Mason (
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Just delete, for the first two articles a "medieval" label is very questionable, and the last two articles are already in
Category:Viking ships.
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Support per nom
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Merge per nom, and template should be reformatted as {{
DRC-politician-stub}} per stub naming conventions. Her Pegship (?) 18:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Category:Poughkeepsie–Newburgh–Middletown metropolitan area
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Nominator's rationale: In July 2023, the "Poughkeepsie–Newburgh–Middletown" MSA was officially renamed to the "Kiryas Joel–Poughkeepsie–Newburgh" MSA, by
OMB Bulletin 23-01 (see page 22, PDF page 25). The motivation for the rename is that in the 2020 census, Kiryas Joel is now the largest municipality in the MSA. The article name has already been moved, this is to update the Category name to match.
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Category:Independent Mexico
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Nominator's rationale:merge, odd combination of name and period, independence of Mexico did not end in 1876. It is not backed up by an article
Independent Mexico either.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom
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Category:Khoja Ismailism
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Nominator's rationale: All of the members of this category are biographies of Khoja Ismailis. Ismailism is the sect. Ismaili people are Ismailis. It's like if there were a category called "Roman Catholicism" which was populated only by the biographies of Roman Catholic people instead of articles about the religion.
Dennis C. Abrams (
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Rename, this is clearly a category of biographies, not a category about the topic
Khoja Ismailism.
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Support per nom
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Category:People temporarily excommunicated by the Catholic Church
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Nominator's rationale: Does this distinction really matter in terms of
WP:DEFINING?
Mason (
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Merge, there is no reason to make a distinction. With many articles in
Category:People excommunicated by the Catholic Church it is simply unclear whether the subjects were still excommunicated when they died, or alternatively they left the Catholic Church so that the excommunication became moot.
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Category:21st-century Cebuano male singers
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to diffuse these category at the intersection of occupation, gender, and ethnic group by century
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Totally fine with it :) Thanks for asking
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Category:Sufism Reoriented
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Nominator's rationale: Created a couple of days back, everything is already in the parent category
Category:Works by Meher Baba so there's no need to merge anything either. —
SpacemanSpiff 16:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
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Category:Egyptian seduction actresses
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The result of the discussion was:delete. LizRead!Talk! 18:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Not defining. No need to merge because the only page in here is already in 21st century Egyptian actresses
Mason (
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Support per nom. It is unclear what the term "seduction actress" means, and it is possibly defamatory / BLP violation.
SomethingForDeletion (
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I removed the only article in the category, due to the BLP concern, so this category is now empty.
SomethingForDeletion (
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Comment Yep, this category is empty now. It was also created by a sockpuppet but is not eligible for CSD G5. LizRead!Talk! 22:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)reply
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Olympics coaches by sport and year
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Category:American journalists for national newspapers
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge with parent category.
Omnis Scientia (
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Merge, unhelpful distinction, most newspapers important enough to contain a journalists subcategory will inevatably be a national newspaper.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom
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Category:Shreveport Times journalists
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Nominator's rationale: Merge with parent category. Not a lot of notable people for this particular newspaper.
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Category:The Hill (newspaper) journalists
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Nominator's rationale: Rename to expand the scope and add people who otherwise don't fit into these categories.
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Support per nom, seems like a reasonable expansion
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Category:The New York Times writers
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Support per nom
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Category:The New York Times sportswriters
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Nominator's rationale: merge first one per
WP:NARROWCAT; there is no other genre-specific NYT category or for any other newspaper.
Omnis Scientia (
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Also, and I don't know how relevant this is (or if it is at all), but the NY Times discontinued its sports section so this category won't be growing.
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Category:Years of the 10th century in art
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Category:Invertebrate attacks
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between verebrate and attack. At the very least Category:Invertebrate attacks needs to be purged.
Mason (
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Comment - LOL this whole section of wikipedia is so chaotic and I kind of love it but whatever you need or want to do gets no objection from me, I just wanted to mention that the generally laughable vertebrate-invertebrate "attack" category distinction was created by me as a way of bringing some semblance of order to the "bites and stings" (and maulings) grouped together in this template:
Template:Animal bites and stings -- do leopard attacks and cone snail darts have anything in common? Not really except they were animal-human interactions (that maybe didnt go so well for the human). So anyway I salute your attempts to tame this beast, as it were... Cheers,
jengod (
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Merge if only to
Category:Animal attacks by taxon because that is a redudant category layer with only two subcategories. I am not opposed to the nomination either.
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Category:Novels by Alexandre Dumas fils
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Category:1839 Swedish novels
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Category:Papermaking in Italy
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Sounds good to me
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Category:Fabergé-style eggs made after the Russian Revolution
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Nominator's rationale: Only one page and a category with a single painting in it. Delete for now. Having an artist and one painting isn't helpful for navigation
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Category:15th-century paintings in Denmark
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one page in here, which isn't very helpful for navigation
Mason (
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I'm also not convinced that this category scheme at the intersection of current location and century of creation is that helpful. I'd love some thoughts on
Category:Paintings in Denmark by century in general.
Mason (
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Until the 18th century it is very thinly populated, you might well nominate them too.
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Category:Mayors by city in Greenland
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Merge per nom. Though I am not entirely sure of the second merge target, it is not in Denmark proper.
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Category:20th-century Tunisian male artists
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The result of the discussion was:merge to Category:Xth-century Tunisian artists.
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Unhelpful for navigation to diffuse Tunisian male artists by century for 2 people.
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Category:Former administrative divisions of Egypt
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Merge or reverse merge per nom. I vaguely remember a debate about "subdivision" seemingly not being a proper English word in this context and "administrative division" being the proper term. If that is the case it should be a reverse merge.
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Category:19th-century Egyptian economists
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Category:Novels by Wolfgang Koeppen
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. It's already in Category: 1954 German novels
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Category:Novels by Ewald Gerhard Seeliger
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge/delete for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. Already in Category:1913 German novels.
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Category:Novels by Felix Hollaender
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation. (Page is already in the plausible merge target 1912 german novels)
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Category:Novels by Josef Winckler
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one book in here (and no eponymous parent category), which isn't helpful for navigation.
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Category:Novels by Friedrich de la Motte Fouqué
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Category:11th-century ships
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Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. There's only four ships in here, and none of them are actually specific to the 11th-century.
Mason (
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Just delete, for the first two articles a "medieval" label is very questionable, and the last two articles are already in
Category:Viking ships.
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