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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Nature-related lists by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Lists of festivals by continent and region
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Category:Jewish organizations by continent
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Category:Printing by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Just delete, the only article in the tree is about a book, not about the process of printing.
Marcocapelle (
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Even better :)
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Category:Presbyterian cemeteries by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Merge per nom. Wouldn't you add the subcategory to the nomination as well?
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Category:Islamic festivals by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Updated to add new noms
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Category:Mass media owners by continent
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Category:Dancesport by continent
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Category:Eastern Orthodox church buildings by continent
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Mason (
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Good catch!
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Category:Assassinated former national legislators in Africa
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Category:Songs written by Anne-Marie (singer)
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Category:African-American sportspeople
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Support in principle. However, they should also be merged to American male tennis players and American female tennis players. A lot of the time these athlete's aren't added to the main nationality category.
Mason (
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Very good point. Will add those right now.
Omnis Scientia (
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Dual merge per @
Mason's suggestion. Have added the categories where appropriate.
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Nominator's rationale: Total category-fork. They don't even link to each other, and both are in mostly the same parent categories. Individual surname articles are randomly categorized into one, the other, or sometimes both. The merge would be consistent with
Category:Irish surnames being a cat.-redirect to
Category:Surnames of Irish origin. I'm not sure why we're preferring the more longwinded name (that fewer people are likely to pick by guessing at it) but we seem to be; the obvious parent cats. are
Category:Surnames of British Isles origin and
Category:Surnames of European origin, with similarly named subcats., though there may be a few other stragglers to round up. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 18:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom, they are clearly duplicates in scope.
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Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of Queensland
Category:Mauritanian people by century and occupation
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation
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Container categories by descent
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Nominator's rationale: rename, all subcategories are named "by descent", there is no reason to name the parent categories differently.
Marcocapelle (
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Rename all, per nom. --
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Category:Mauritanian actors by century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one category in here, which is uphelpful for navigation
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Category:Australian men by occupation and century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in the parent category, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Fictional characters with animal abilities
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus for the first category, merge the second.
Nominator's rationale: It's unclear what "animal abilities" even means in this context, making this a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. In its current form, it is confusing. The best thing to do is merge to
Category:Animal superheroes, while purging the morphing subcategory and non-superheroes.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 09:34, 11 November 2023 (UTC)reply
There is no firm definition of what an "animalistic ability" is, making it subjective. While plant abilities are pretty clear-cut, humans are capable of things that may be described as "animalistic" but are not necessarily related to animals. For example, one could say a character who flies using a jetpack is "bird-like" but may be unrelated to birds. This is why I think such a category is totally untenable.
If they have animal morphing abilities, then the below mentioned shapeshifter category will work. Not every single thing needs a specific category.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 12:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
HouseBlastertalk 00:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete (or containerize if kept by specific abilities) per Marco
Mason (
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We could start sorting superheroes and supervillains by theme, as with the existing
Category:United States-themed superheroes — most of the characters here have animal themes, but their abilities are varied. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 16:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Fictional Italian people by region
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Nominator's rationale:merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:One-off cars
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Nominator's rationale: The same criticism I made in my AfD nomination. (
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One-off vehicle) Not to mention of its vagueness, I am presented with a category that doesn't know what it wants to be. We have a mishmash of film and TV cars, custom cars, coachbuilts (custom cars for rich people), promo cars, concept cars, speed record cars and racecars, especially some from an era when individual example is not uncommon.
SpacedFarmer (
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Why not just create subcategories for the more frequently occurring types of "one-off" cars?
Marcocapelle (
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Support merge, the scope seems very overlapping indeed.
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The result of the discussion was:split but keep the categories as parent categories.
(non-admin closure)Qwerfjkltalk 10:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with
Category:Religious controversies at large, which is also split by medium. More categories may be needed in performing the split.
Qwerfjkltalk 10:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I am assuming that the nomination is meant as "split and delete" instead of "create subcategories". But wouldn't the latter be a better option?
Marcocapelle (
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I suppose it's functionally equivalent. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 15:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)reply
That is true. The way I framed it saves us the deletion of one category and the creation of another.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle, I'm sorry, what do you mean by "the latter"? The latter of what?
Qwerfjkltalk 12:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Qwerfjkl: I meant everything you said after "Also to clarify".
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Nominator's rationale: I feel like this category is
WP:SHAREDNAME in that it categorizes anything that mentions "professional" without regard to whether they have a clear relation to each other. I.e. somehow a professional wargame is akin to a professional writer or lawyer.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Support This is not for works that simply mention siblings, which this category name currently implies.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Perhaps someone should start batch nominations, in batches of five or seven or so "in fiction" categories simultanously, in order to speed up this process.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Twins in fiction
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Nominator's rationale: Consistency with a building consensus about the naming of categories about fiction by topic. Contested
WP:CFDS because few categories within
Category:Fiction about medicine and health have been renamed.
Most other CfDs to rename this kind of category have been accepted. –
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Support. There have been several discussions about this issue, including the parent category:
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 7#Category:Science in fiction. Do we really need to have a full discussion for each of these? I'd rather not, and would prefer that we use speedy to let the change slowly work its way down the tree
Mason (
talk) 20:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Support This is not for works that simply mention twins, which this category name currently implies.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom, and see my comment above.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Recipients of the Civil Administration Medal (Sarawak)
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:OCAWARD and the spirit of
WP:C1, an unpopulated category
The
Civil Administration Medal is a minor award from the Sarawak state of Malaysia but the only article in the category is
George Chan Hong Nam which doesn't even mention the award. I don't know if I can say the category is "listified" since there is only the 1 article but it is now linked right
here in the main article. -
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Nature-related lists by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Lists of festivals by continent and region
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Jewish organizations by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Printing by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Just delete, the only article in the tree is about a book, not about the process of printing.
Marcocapelle (
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Even better :)
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Category:Presbyterian cemeteries by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Merge per nom. Wouldn't you add the subcategory to the nomination as well?
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Category:Islamic festivals by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
Mason (
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Updated to add new noms
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Category:Mass media owners by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Dancesport by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Eastern Orthodox church buildings by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Good catch!
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Category:Carrom by continent
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Only one category in here, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Assassinated former national legislators in Africa
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Category:Songs written by Anne-Marie (singer)
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Category:African-American sportspeople
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Support in principle. However, they should also be merged to American male tennis players and American female tennis players. A lot of the time these athlete's aren't added to the main nationality category.
Mason (
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Very good point. Will add those right now.
Omnis Scientia (
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Dual merge per @
Mason's suggestion. Have added the categories where appropriate.
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Nominator's rationale: Total category-fork. They don't even link to each other, and both are in mostly the same parent categories. Individual surname articles are randomly categorized into one, the other, or sometimes both. The merge would be consistent with
Category:Irish surnames being a cat.-redirect to
Category:Surnames of Irish origin. I'm not sure why we're preferring the more longwinded name (that fewer people are likely to pick by guessing at it) but we seem to be; the obvious parent cats. are
Category:Surnames of British Isles origin and
Category:Surnames of European origin, with similarly named subcats., though there may be a few other stragglers to round up. —
SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 18:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom, they are clearly duplicates in scope.
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Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of Queensland
Category:Mauritanian people by century and occupation
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation
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Container categories by descent
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Nominator's rationale: rename, all subcategories are named "by descent", there is no reason to name the parent categories differently.
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Rename all, per nom. --
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Category:Mauritanian actors by century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There is only one category in here, which is uphelpful for navigation
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Category:Australian men by occupation and century
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in the parent category, which is not helpful for navigation
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Category:Fictional characters with animal abilities
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus for the first category, merge the second.
Nominator's rationale: It's unclear what "animal abilities" even means in this context, making this a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. In its current form, it is confusing. The best thing to do is merge to
Category:Animal superheroes, while purging the morphing subcategory and non-superheroes.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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There is no firm definition of what an "animalistic ability" is, making it subjective. While plant abilities are pretty clear-cut, humans are capable of things that may be described as "animalistic" but are not necessarily related to animals. For example, one could say a character who flies using a jetpack is "bird-like" but may be unrelated to birds. This is why I think such a category is totally untenable.
If they have animal morphing abilities, then the below mentioned shapeshifter category will work. Not every single thing needs a specific category.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 12:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
HouseBlastertalk 00:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete (or containerize if kept by specific abilities) per Marco
Mason (
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We could start sorting superheroes and supervillains by theme, as with the existing
Category:United States-themed superheroes — most of the characters here have animal themes, but their abilities are varied. –
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 16:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Fictional Italian people by region
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Nominator's rationale:merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:One-off cars
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Nominator's rationale: The same criticism I made in my AfD nomination. (
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One-off vehicle) Not to mention of its vagueness, I am presented with a category that doesn't know what it wants to be. We have a mishmash of film and TV cars, custom cars, coachbuilts (custom cars for rich people), promo cars, concept cars, speed record cars and racecars, especially some from an era when individual example is not uncommon.
SpacedFarmer (
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Why not just create subcategories for the more frequently occurring types of "one-off" cars?
Marcocapelle (
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Support merge, the scope seems very overlapping indeed.
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Religious mass media controversies
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The result of the discussion was:split but keep the categories as parent categories.
(non-admin closure)Qwerfjkltalk 10:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with
Category:Religious controversies at large, which is also split by medium. More categories may be needed in performing the split.
Qwerfjkltalk 10:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I am assuming that the nomination is meant as "split and delete" instead of "create subcategories". But wouldn't the latter be a better option?
Marcocapelle (
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I suppose it's functionally equivalent. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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That is true. The way I framed it saves us the deletion of one category and the creation of another.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle, I'm sorry, what do you mean by "the latter"? The latter of what?
Qwerfjkltalk 12:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Qwerfjkl: I meant everything you said after "Also to clarify".
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Nominator's rationale: I feel like this category is
WP:SHAREDNAME in that it categorizes anything that mentions "professional" without regard to whether they have a clear relation to each other. I.e. somehow a professional wargame is akin to a professional writer or lawyer.
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Support This is not for works that simply mention siblings, which this category name currently implies.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. Perhaps someone should start batch nominations, in batches of five or seven or so "in fiction" categories simultanously, in order to speed up this process.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Twins in fiction
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Nominator's rationale: Consistency with a building consensus about the naming of categories about fiction by topic. Contested
WP:CFDS because few categories within
Category:Fiction about medicine and health have been renamed.
Most other CfDs to rename this kind of category have been accepted. –
LaundryPizza03 (
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Support. There have been several discussions about this issue, including the parent category:
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 7#Category:Science in fiction. Do we really need to have a full discussion for each of these? I'd rather not, and would prefer that we use speedy to let the change slowly work its way down the tree
Mason (
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Support This is not for works that simply mention twins, which this category name currently implies.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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Support per nom, and see my comment above.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom.
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Category:Recipients of the Civil Administration Medal (Sarawak)
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:OCAWARD and the spirit of
WP:C1, an unpopulated category
The
Civil Administration Medal is a minor award from the Sarawak state of Malaysia but the only article in the category is
George Chan Hong Nam which doesn't even mention the award. I don't know if I can say the category is "listified" since there is only the 1 article but it is now linked right
here in the main article. -
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