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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Makes no sense in isolation. These articles should be dispersed to the categories relevant to the countries where they were deemed aliens.
Rathfelder (
talk) 13:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Either delete or populate. Large number of people were considered
enemy aliens in many countries at the start of WWII (and also WWI I believe), there is therefore potential for a larger category, which could be subdivided in national people interned by Foo categories among others (not all enemy aliens were interned, but for those who were it was clearly defining). In its current state with 4 articles the category serves little purpose.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:20, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete for now. Agree with Place Clichy that at best it would make sense for people who were interned, so rename if kept to something that reflects the internment.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Being defined as an enemy alien generally seems to have been a temporary state of affairs, so not very defining in itself, and different terminology was (is?) used by different governments. There are already some categories for people who were interned.
Rathfelder (
talk) 20:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete -- preferably after finding a replacement category for each. We have 4 articles - One for US actions; 3 British ones: 1 WWI explusion; 2 WWII internments. UK interned most enemy aliens, many on Isle of Man, though some of them were in fact Jewish refugees, hostile to the Nazis. Japanese Americans were similarly interned. I suspect there is scope for a whole tree here, but this is not a good start for it.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 16:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I would have thought that the category would contain articles related to the designation or treatment of enemy aliens, rather than putting in people who were deemed so for a small portion of their lives.
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Category:User latn
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Nominator's rationale: Effectively the same as
Category:User Latn, which has been deleted in
2007 and
2011 on the grounds of everyone on en.wiki should be familiar with Latin script - can we delete the templates in
Category:User templates Latin script at the same time?
Le Deluge (
talk) 12:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now. @
Le Deluge, I wholly agree with the substance of your rationale, viz. that everyone on en.wiki should be familiar with Latin script. Bluntly, anyone who isn't highly proficient in Latin script fails
WP:CIR and has probably no business editing any part of en.wp.
Weak oppose - While I see no point in levels 0 and n, levels 1 to 4 make sense given that there are Wikipedians whose native language does not use Latin script - Russian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, etc. As such, these levels at least are useful.
Grutness...wha? 02:12, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Pre-Islamic Pakistan
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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - there had been no "Pakistan" in pre-Islamic times.
GreyShark (
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Delete per nom and
WP:OVERLAPCAT. There is already plenty of content relative to e.g. ancient and prehistoric history of Pakistan and this news category does not fit well in this structure. The Indus Valley civilization for instance is one of the oldest known civilization and definitely belongs in Pakistan history categories, but current categories are sufficient.
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Category:Video games featured on Angry Video Game Nerd
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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: A game being reviewed is not
WP:DEFINING for the game, perhaps it could be appropriate to turn this into a list but it definitely doesn't belong as a category.
Le Deluge (
talk) 10:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I have to disagree. As Angry Video Game Nerd is one of the most popular web series on the internet, accumulating views ranging from 3 to 7 million views for the first hundred or so episodes, I’d say being reviewed on the show is more than defining. Games such as Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde on NES are perhaps most known for being featured on the show.
Terry g. bishop talk page 09:00, 25 November 2020 (EST)
Delete per nom. AVGN uploads every few weeks, so being one of the 100+ games a certain YouTuber happens to talk about is not defining. The same would go for essentially every gaming channel.
IceWelder [
✉] 17:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. Coverage in a major entertainment outlet is not really notable in a way that requires a cat, and neither is coverage in a source in and of itself more broadly.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchstalk 18:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. I could understand an argument for this being a list. But it doesn't meet the defining characteristic to warrant a category. -
X201 (
talk) 19:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Listify, a good idea for a list, but not a category.
(Oinkers42) (
talk) 19:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep 2 (duplicate !vote) As for the
x for all y argument, the Angry Video Game Nerd would be the primary reason for page views for a particular article, so compiling a category for them in a streamline manner will be most convenient for not only viewers of the show, but those who want to see what source of outstanding notability the game has. Episodes are also not released every "few weeks" and are more so sporadic depending on the year. The
List of Angry Video Game Nerd episodes, the list is far too wordy and lengthy, and does not specify particular games reviewed in compilation episodes like the
Sega CD episode (S02E25), among others. If this is believed to cause inflation, even though it won’t be an issue, there are category’s such as
Living people that are also inundated. As retrogaming is much more niche and cultish than something mainstream like a film review or modern gaming review series, a category is much more fitting. If one was to list every feature a game or console has every had on any popular review show, then it would get excessive. However,
as the Nerd is a staple among the retrogaming community, a category would seem the most effective. —
Terry g. bishop talk page 09:54, 26 November 2020 (EST)
Taking the Sega CD episode as your example. AVGN would not be "the primary reason for page views" to Night Trap, the primary reason (as it has always been) is because it was (incorrectly) the poster child for the 1993 Senate hearing into violent video games. Is AVGN "the primary reason for page views" to Sonic CD? Again, I'd say that was because it was the biggest selling title on the console and that fact that Sonic has a massive fanbase. As for the other games covered in that episode, seeing as the AVGN episode is dated 2007, what was the primary reason for the thousands and thousands of page views before 2007? -
X201 (
talk) 15:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete based on the same logic that was used for deleting similar categories for films features on Mystery Science Theater 3000 (see
[1],
[2] and others). The inclusion of the work on the later series was determined to be a non-defining trait. --
Masem (
t) 15:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Organizations based in the French West Indies
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Per
WP:OVERLAPCAT and what appears to be a good faith misunderstanding of the French overseas political administration.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 12:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - I created this for reasons which I now forget.
Oculi (
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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Equatorial Star
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
When foreign leaders visit Gabon, or vice versa, the
Order of the Equatorial Star is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit.
Golda Meir,
Lula and
Ferdinand Marcos are not remotely defined by this award. (There is one person in this category who is Gabonese,
Virginie Ambougou, but her article only mentions the award in passing and it's already well categorized.) There wasn't a list so I created one
here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. -
RevelationDirect (
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Category:Recipients of the Silver War Badge
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Over a million of these awards were given out according to the main article,
Silver War Badge. The award was a combination
wound decoration/
campaign medal for British soldiers discharged after injury from WWI. Unfortunately, non-fatal injury in war is far too common to be defining. I placed the current category contents
right here if anyone wants to start a list article but, given the potential size, I don't think that's viable. -
RevelationDirect (
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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Makes no sense in isolation. These articles should be dispersed to the categories relevant to the countries where they were deemed aliens.
Rathfelder (
talk) 13:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Either delete or populate. Large number of people were considered
enemy aliens in many countries at the start of WWII (and also WWI I believe), there is therefore potential for a larger category, which could be subdivided in national people interned by Foo categories among others (not all enemy aliens were interned, but for those who were it was clearly defining). In its current state with 4 articles the category serves little purpose.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:20, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete for now. Agree with Place Clichy that at best it would make sense for people who were interned, so rename if kept to something that reflects the internment.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 17:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Being defined as an enemy alien generally seems to have been a temporary state of affairs, so not very defining in itself, and different terminology was (is?) used by different governments. There are already some categories for people who were interned.
Rathfelder (
talk) 20:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete -- preferably after finding a replacement category for each. We have 4 articles - One for US actions; 3 British ones: 1 WWI explusion; 2 WWII internments. UK interned most enemy aliens, many on Isle of Man, though some of them were in fact Jewish refugees, hostile to the Nazis. Japanese Americans were similarly interned. I suspect there is scope for a whole tree here, but this is not a good start for it.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 16:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete I would have thought that the category would contain articles related to the designation or treatment of enemy aliens, rather than putting in people who were deemed so for a small portion of their lives.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 22:30, 30 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:User latn
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Nominator's rationale: Effectively the same as
Category:User Latn, which has been deleted in
2007 and
2011 on the grounds of everyone on en.wiki should be familiar with Latin script - can we delete the templates in
Category:User templates Latin script at the same time?
Le Deluge (
talk) 12:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now. @
Le Deluge, I wholly agree with the substance of your rationale, viz. that everyone on en.wiki should be familiar with Latin script. Bluntly, anyone who isn't highly proficient in Latin script fails
WP:CIR and has probably no business editing any part of en.wp.
Weak oppose - While I see no point in levels 0 and n, levels 1 to 4 make sense given that there are Wikipedians whose native language does not use Latin script - Russian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, etc. As such, these levels at least are useful.
Grutness...wha? 02:12, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Pre-Islamic Pakistan
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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - there had been no "Pakistan" in pre-Islamic times.
GreyShark (
dibra) 12:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom and
WP:OVERLAPCAT. There is already plenty of content relative to e.g. ancient and prehistoric history of Pakistan and this news category does not fit well in this structure. The Indus Valley civilization for instance is one of the oldest known civilization and definitely belongs in Pakistan history categories, but current categories are sufficient.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Video games featured on Angry Video Game Nerd
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MER-C 19:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: A game being reviewed is not
WP:DEFINING for the game, perhaps it could be appropriate to turn this into a list but it definitely doesn't belong as a category.
Le Deluge (
talk) 10:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I have to disagree. As Angry Video Game Nerd is one of the most popular web series on the internet, accumulating views ranging from 3 to 7 million views for the first hundred or so episodes, I’d say being reviewed on the show is more than defining. Games such as Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde on NES are perhaps most known for being featured on the show.
Terry g. bishop talk page 09:00, 25 November 2020 (EST)
Delete per nom. AVGN uploads every few weeks, so being one of the 100+ games a certain YouTuber happens to talk about is not defining. The same would go for essentially every gaming channel.
IceWelder [
✉] 17:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. Coverage in a major entertainment outlet is not really notable in a way that requires a cat, and neither is coverage in a source in and of itself more broadly.
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchstalk 18:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. I could understand an argument for this being a list. But it doesn't meet the defining characteristic to warrant a category. -
X201 (
talk) 19:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Listify, a good idea for a list, but not a category.
(Oinkers42) (
talk) 19:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep 2 (duplicate !vote) As for the
x for all y argument, the Angry Video Game Nerd would be the primary reason for page views for a particular article, so compiling a category for them in a streamline manner will be most convenient for not only viewers of the show, but those who want to see what source of outstanding notability the game has. Episodes are also not released every "few weeks" and are more so sporadic depending on the year. The
List of Angry Video Game Nerd episodes, the list is far too wordy and lengthy, and does not specify particular games reviewed in compilation episodes like the
Sega CD episode (S02E25), among others. If this is believed to cause inflation, even though it won’t be an issue, there are category’s such as
Living people that are also inundated. As retrogaming is much more niche and cultish than something mainstream like a film review or modern gaming review series, a category is much more fitting. If one was to list every feature a game or console has every had on any popular review show, then it would get excessive. However,
as the Nerd is a staple among the retrogaming community, a category would seem the most effective. —
Terry g. bishop talk page 09:54, 26 November 2020 (EST)
Taking the Sega CD episode as your example. AVGN would not be "the primary reason for page views" to Night Trap, the primary reason (as it has always been) is because it was (incorrectly) the poster child for the 1993 Senate hearing into violent video games. Is AVGN "the primary reason for page views" to Sonic CD? Again, I'd say that was because it was the biggest selling title on the console and that fact that Sonic has a massive fanbase. As for the other games covered in that episode, seeing as the AVGN episode is dated 2007, what was the primary reason for the thousands and thousands of page views before 2007? -
X201 (
talk) 15:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete based on the same logic that was used for deleting similar categories for films features on Mystery Science Theater 3000 (see
[1],
[2] and others). The inclusion of the work on the later series was determined to be a non-defining trait. --
Masem (
t) 15:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Organizations based in the French West Indies
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Per
WP:OVERLAPCAT and what appears to be a good faith misunderstanding of the French overseas political administration.
RevelationDirect (
talk) 12:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Support - I created this for reasons which I now forget.
Oculi (
talk) 17:44, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Equatorial Star
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
When foreign leaders visit Gabon, or vice versa, the
Order of the Equatorial Star is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit.
Golda Meir,
Lula and
Ferdinand Marcos are not remotely defined by this award. (There is one person in this category who is Gabonese,
Virginie Ambougou, but her article only mentions the award in passing and it's already well categorized.) There wasn't a list so I created one
here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Recipients of the Silver War Badge
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MER-C 19:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Over a million of these awards were given out according to the main article,
Silver War Badge. The award was a combination
wound decoration/
campaign medal for British soldiers discharged after injury from WWI. Unfortunately, non-fatal injury in war is far too common to be defining. I placed the current category contents
right here if anyone wants to start a list article but, given the potential size, I don't think that's viable. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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