The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 13:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: I didn't realize this category existed until Occuli lightheartedly linked to it from a CfD where I'd entered "something," because I didn't know what my rename should be. It has been linked to from a number of other CfDs because someone else entered "something" in place of foo, and it got blue linked. It has only been created recently, so this is its 1st Cfd. Anyway, it took a while to figure out what this category is about. It's terribly nebulous. Anything that isn't nothing is something, so the nominated category can pretty much encompass the whole encyclopedia. The creator's
Category:Everything was
already deleted.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete And protect against recreation. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Roman Catholic Church novels
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:No rename.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 17:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The existing title is grammatically clunky and unnecessarily specific. Non-Roman Catholic (e.g., Eastern-Rite Catholic) novels should probably be on the same page.
Stgimp (
talk) 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's parent is
Category:Christian novels which is wide enough to potentially include as many denominations as you would want. It makes sense that each denomination should have its own category. To force this cat to absorb Eastern-Rite Catholic would render it so amorphous as to make it untenable as a cat.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 23:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Not any more, it isn't. Like most "art" categories, that is only supposed to contain stuff from the visual arts. Strangely enough we don't seem to have an RC "books" or "literature" category, which probably should be set up. I don't much like either the current or proposed names, both of which suggest the authors must be Catholic.
Category:Novels with a Roman Catholic Church setting would be more accurate, if we can do that.
Johnbod (
talk) 02:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep – per the usual phraseology in the kindred
Category:Roman Catholic Church art, then. (Although to me there is a suggestion that these occur in a church, whereas it is the theme that is RC (eg in Sword of Honour).)
Occuli (
talk) 08:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
It's the same keep, modified rationale due to feckless parents.
Occuli (
talk) 09:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Santa Clara University Centers
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Stanford University schools
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Cal Poly Pomona College
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but never listed here. No reason given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Places in Kitakyūshū
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 19:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 4 but never listed here. Reason not given in edit summary.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Singapore
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to (Schoolname) alumni.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
(I've deliberately left the "Old Fooians" category out of this nomination as there are additional issues with that form that are best handled separately)
Nominator's rationale: The Singapore schools categories use one formats for the individual schools (an Old Fooians aside) and another for the parent. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Disney's Fantasia
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Keep. Seems disambiguated enough from other "Fantasia" categories where it is. Not really a "franchise" as such, so think "Disney's Fantasia" remains suitable. Articles and templates already exist using the "Disney's" prefix:
List of Disney's Fantasia characters and
Template:Disney's Fantasia so following existing precedent. --
Rob Sinden (
talk) 10:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Fantasia (franchise). I don't see a lot of precedent for calling it "Disney's Fantasia." There's some usage of "Walt Disney's Fantasia," but I think it's better to just disambiguate it with "(franchise)".--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 21:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Nails
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:People from Mullewa, Western Australia
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Withdrawn by nominator.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 07:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. has only one entry, it is hardly worth creating a category for a town of 450 people.
LibStar (
talk) 07:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose It's the centre of an agricultural/pastoral district (like many remote Australian towns) and has a district high school, a team in the local football league (which doesn't sound major until one accounts for how many country footballers end up in first division teams), and its own shire council; each of which could theoretically account for any number of people. The Opposition Leader of the Northern Territory farmed there for several years and still has family there, and one of the Wittenoom brothers was chairman of the road board (predecessor to the Shire Council) and has a nearby mountain named after him.
Orderinchaos 15:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
OpposeWP:IDONTLIKEIT (because the town is too small) is not a reason to delete. Come up with a reason based in deletion or category policy or guidelines and then it can be considered. --
Mattinbgn (
talk) 22:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
because it has very little potential to produce notable people. given that only two people is in the cat. if it had 5 yes.
LibStar (
talk) 04:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per OIC.
FiveYears 02:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment in light of above as nominator, I am happy to withdraw this nomination.
LibStar (
talk) 06:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Qur'an
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. If this passes, the subcategories can be speedily renamed. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 07:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Welsh Assembly Government
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. Following 2011 re-naming by the government itself, and per our convention of naming categories after their parent articles.
Mais oui! (
talk) 06:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename - No Welsh Assembly Government now exists - it has been the Welsh Government since May 2011 (see
here).
Daicaregos (
talk) 08:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename - Per parent article.
Agathoclea (
talk) 13:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename pretty straightforward.
Orderinchaos 03:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Ghana
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to Alumni of (Schoolname).
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Ghana schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to "Alumni of (Schoolname)" as the bulk of the categories already use that form.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:42, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Fiji
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Reanme to (Schoolname) alumni.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Fiji schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
(Note: There was a previous proposal
in February which found consensus to use a consistent format but deadlocked on which one. The closing admin recommended a follow-up nomination if consensus formed on other countries under discussion.)
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Hong Kong
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Option 1.
עוד מישהוOd Mishehu 10:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Hong Kong schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Option 1: All at "Alumni of (Schoolname)" - it is the most compact title and covers all of the following variants listed. Why use more words to describe something when one works well?--
Michaela den (
talk) 08:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in India
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Consensus was for some form of alumni and this one seemed to have the most support.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
(I've deliberately left the "Fooians" and "Old Fooians" categories out of this nomination as there are additional issues with them that are best handled separately)
Nominator's rationale: The Indian (non-Fooians) schools categories use one format but their parent use another. It's best to standardise the two before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Use 1st option - Alumni of (schoolname). Alumni is a compact word for Former students/ People educated, etc. Also, it would be easy to search / locate too, if one were to just type 'Alumni of XXX' in the search box. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
VasuVR (
talk) 04:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep as is. Most of the categories use the Old Fooians format and "Former pupils" for the parent category is consistent with that and with local terminology. A rename to
Category:Former pupils by school in India is possible to simplify the name, as the "secondary" seems redundant.
Cjc13 (
talk) 11:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Leave all as they are, per
Cjc13. The schools in India do not use any "consistent" format, and there is no need for one to be imposed from overseas.
Moonraker (
talk) 04:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
This 'argument' is a first at cfd. There have been any number of precedents for consistent formats being applied globally at cfd (with local variations).
Occuli (
talk) 09:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Aren't these local variations?
Cjc13 (
talk) 22:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to something consistent. I can't see any logic in keeping them all a hodge-podge: let's choose one and use it. "Schoolname alumni" is fine with me, but I'd be equally fine with any other format (except the "former pupils" or "former students" ones), as long as it's used consistently.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
NBA postseasons by team
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 09:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete all. Textbook over-categorization. None of these will ever have more than 2-3 articles to populate them at best, and most will mire in the 1-2 range. I'm sure the creator's intentions were good, but frankly any of the articles that appear in these categories would be just as fine staying in the main categories for the teams.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 01:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment If you look at
Category:Chicago Bulls postseason, it looks like the creator's intent was to include in the category any article related to the team being in the playoffs. So there could be multiple NBA playoff articles (one for each year) for each team's category. —
Bagumba (
talk) 21:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)reply
But that's unnecessary, though. A certain league's playoff season should not be in the playoff teams' categories. If a certain game or event is notable to stand on its own (like Jordan's Game 6) then it'd be appropriate. There are far too few of these to ever satisfactorily populate a team's playoff category.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 17:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I'm not decided yet if its needed or if its overkill, but what if hypothetically I wanted to read about all the NBA playoff seasons that Team X was involved in? Looking at the NHL discussion below, one option would be to categorize the NBA playoff season under all the NBA team categories. When you look at the team category, just look for anything that looks like its playoffs related. —
Bagumba (
talk) 18:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:People from Greater Western Sydney
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:merge. This seems quite a spongy definition, too unclear for categorization. The other three categories listed below should be nominated for merging as well.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 18:15, 24 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. No reason to have essentially a subregion of Sydney represented with only one entry.
LibStar (
talk) 00:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Support. There is nothing here which is not a property of People from Sydney (I suspect plenty of entries could be found within the parent cat that apply to the sub-cat, but then the question of "what is Greater Western Sydney?" which has never been completely determined comes up.)
Orderinchaos 15:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose There is nothing wrong with sub-cats by region for large cities such as Sydney. If the definition needs to be tightened, then lets tighten it, if the category needs to be populated from the parent category, then populate it - but there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. --
Mattinbgn (
talk) 22:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I'd normally agree, but when I came to do my schools lists, I found there was as many definitions of GWS as there were people defining them. The area around Carlingford, and whether Lakemba and surrounds were part of GWS seemed to be two of the issues to resolve. There's a definition used by the councils which includes Carlingford and excludes Lakemba, at least one state government body does the reverse. It's not like the rural regions where statutory definitions exist.
Orderinchaos 03:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
what is the definition of Greater Western Sydney? there is actually no accepted definition.
LibStar (
talk) 23:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Category:People from the North Shore, Sydney with the
North Shore (Sydney) article using both the terms "not clearly defined" and "it has been incorrectly used", suggesting another non-universal definition and the latter in such an article usually indicates an editor with a pretty firm opinion on disputed boundaries
Would it be better to totally overhaul the categories and use the local government areas as the unit for division? Or does that bring it's own problems - e.g. if local government is reorganised too often, or biographies don't specify the council area?
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Tim, good pick up. With the exception of Sutherland Shire, the other areas are not defined objectively, bios would say suburb born which would indicate Local government area LGA. But doesn't mean they actually grew up there. LGA are too cumbersome, there are at least 40 in Sydney and some are only a few square km in size.
LibStar (
talk) 13:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 13:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: I didn't realize this category existed until Occuli lightheartedly linked to it from a CfD where I'd entered "something," because I didn't know what my rename should be. It has been linked to from a number of other CfDs because someone else entered "something" in place of foo, and it got blue linked. It has only been created recently, so this is its 1st Cfd. Anyway, it took a while to figure out what this category is about. It's terribly nebulous. Anything that isn't nothing is something, so the nominated category can pretty much encompass the whole encyclopedia. The creator's
Category:Everything was
already deleted.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete And protect against recreation. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Roman Catholic Church novels
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:No rename.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 17:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The existing title is grammatically clunky and unnecessarily specific. Non-Roman Catholic (e.g., Eastern-Rite Catholic) novels should probably be on the same page.
Stgimp (
talk) 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's parent is
Category:Christian novels which is wide enough to potentially include as many denominations as you would want. It makes sense that each denomination should have its own category. To force this cat to absorb Eastern-Rite Catholic would render it so amorphous as to make it untenable as a cat.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 23:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Not any more, it isn't. Like most "art" categories, that is only supposed to contain stuff from the visual arts. Strangely enough we don't seem to have an RC "books" or "literature" category, which probably should be set up. I don't much like either the current or proposed names, both of which suggest the authors must be Catholic.
Category:Novels with a Roman Catholic Church setting would be more accurate, if we can do that.
Johnbod (
talk) 02:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep – per the usual phraseology in the kindred
Category:Roman Catholic Church art, then. (Although to me there is a suggestion that these occur in a church, whereas it is the theme that is RC (eg in Sword of Honour).)
Occuli (
talk) 08:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
It's the same keep, modified rationale due to feckless parents.
Occuli (
talk) 09:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Santa Clara University Centers
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Stanford University schools
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Cal Poly Pomona College
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —
ξxplicit 06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 19 but never listed here. No reason given.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Places in Kitakyūshū
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 19:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Administrative nomination. The category
was tagged on August 4 but never listed here. Reason not given in edit summary.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 15:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Singapore
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to (Schoolname) alumni.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
(I've deliberately left the "Old Fooians" category out of this nomination as there are additional issues with that form that are best handled separately)
Nominator's rationale: The Singapore schools categories use one formats for the individual schools (an Old Fooians aside) and another for the parent. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Disney's Fantasia
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Keep. Seems disambiguated enough from other "Fantasia" categories where it is. Not really a "franchise" as such, so think "Disney's Fantasia" remains suitable. Articles and templates already exist using the "Disney's" prefix:
List of Disney's Fantasia characters and
Template:Disney's Fantasia so following existing precedent. --
Rob Sinden (
talk) 10:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Fantasia (franchise). I don't see a lot of precedent for calling it "Disney's Fantasia." There's some usage of "Walt Disney's Fantasia," but I think it's better to just disambiguate it with "(franchise)".--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 21:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Nails
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:People from Mullewa, Western Australia
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Withdrawn by nominator.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 07:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. has only one entry, it is hardly worth creating a category for a town of 450 people.
LibStar (
talk) 07:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose It's the centre of an agricultural/pastoral district (like many remote Australian towns) and has a district high school, a team in the local football league (which doesn't sound major until one accounts for how many country footballers end up in first division teams), and its own shire council; each of which could theoretically account for any number of people. The Opposition Leader of the Northern Territory farmed there for several years and still has family there, and one of the Wittenoom brothers was chairman of the road board (predecessor to the Shire Council) and has a nearby mountain named after him.
Orderinchaos 15:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
OpposeWP:IDONTLIKEIT (because the town is too small) is not a reason to delete. Come up with a reason based in deletion or category policy or guidelines and then it can be considered. --
Mattinbgn (
talk) 22:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
because it has very little potential to produce notable people. given that only two people is in the cat. if it had 5 yes.
LibStar (
talk) 04:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Per OIC.
FiveYears 02:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment in light of above as nominator, I am happy to withdraw this nomination.
LibStar (
talk) 06:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Qur'an
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Per main article. If this passes, the subcategories can be speedily renamed. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 07:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Welsh Assembly Government
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Rename. Following 2011 re-naming by the government itself, and per our convention of naming categories after their parent articles.
Mais oui! (
talk) 06:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename - No Welsh Assembly Government now exists - it has been the Welsh Government since May 2011 (see
here).
Daicaregos (
talk) 08:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename - Per parent article.
Agathoclea (
talk) 13:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename pretty straightforward.
Orderinchaos 03:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Ghana
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to Alumni of (Schoolname).
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Ghana schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to "Alumni of (Schoolname)" as the bulk of the categories already use that form.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 11:42, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Fiji
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Reanme to (Schoolname) alumni.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Fiji schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
(Note: There was a previous proposal
in February which found consensus to use a consistent format but deadlocked on which one. The closing admin recommended a follow-up nomination if consensus formed on other countries under discussion.)
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in Hong Kong
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Option 1.
עוד מישהוOd Mishehu 10:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The Hong Kong schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Option 1: All at "Alumni of (Schoolname)" - it is the most compact title and covers all of the following variants listed. Why use more words to describe something when one works well?--
Michaela den (
talk) 08:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
People by school in India
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Consensus was for some form of alumni and this one seemed to have the most support.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
(I've deliberately left the "Fooians" and "Old Fooians" categories out of this nomination as there are additional issues with them that are best handled separately)
Nominator's rationale: The Indian (non-Fooians) schools categories use one format but their parent use another. It's best to standardise the two before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 01:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Use 1st option - Alumni of (schoolname). Alumni is a compact word for Former students/ People educated, etc. Also, it would be easy to search / locate too, if one were to just type 'Alumni of XXX' in the search box. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
VasuVR (
talk) 04:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep as is. Most of the categories use the Old Fooians format and "Former pupils" for the parent category is consistent with that and with local terminology. A rename to
Category:Former pupils by school in India is possible to simplify the name, as the "secondary" seems redundant.
Cjc13 (
talk) 11:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Leave all as they are, per
Cjc13. The schools in India do not use any "consistent" format, and there is no need for one to be imposed from overseas.
Moonraker (
talk) 04:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
This 'argument' is a first at cfd. There have been any number of precedents for consistent formats being applied globally at cfd (with local variations).
Occuli (
talk) 09:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Aren't these local variations?
Cjc13 (
talk) 22:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to something consistent. I can't see any logic in keeping them all a hodge-podge: let's choose one and use it. "Schoolname alumni" is fine with me, but I'd be equally fine with any other format (except the "former pupils" or "former students" ones), as long as it's used consistently.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
NBA postseasons by team
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 09:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Delete all. Textbook over-categorization. None of these will ever have more than 2-3 articles to populate them at best, and most will mire in the 1-2 range. I'm sure the creator's intentions were good, but frankly any of the articles that appear in these categories would be just as fine staying in the main categories for the teams.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 01:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment If you look at
Category:Chicago Bulls postseason, it looks like the creator's intent was to include in the category any article related to the team being in the playoffs. So there could be multiple NBA playoff articles (one for each year) for each team's category. —
Bagumba (
talk) 21:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)reply
But that's unnecessary, though. A certain league's playoff season should not be in the playoff teams' categories. If a certain game or event is notable to stand on its own (like Jordan's Game 6) then it'd be appropriate. There are far too few of these to ever satisfactorily populate a team's playoff category.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 17:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I'm not decided yet if its needed or if its overkill, but what if hypothetically I wanted to read about all the NBA playoff seasons that Team X was involved in? Looking at the NHL discussion below, one option would be to categorize the NBA playoff season under all the NBA team categories. When you look at the team category, just look for anything that looks like its playoffs related. —
Bagumba (
talk) 18:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:People from Greater Western Sydney
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was:merge. This seems quite a spongy definition, too unclear for categorization. The other three categories listed below should be nominated for merging as well.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 18:15, 24 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. No reason to have essentially a subregion of Sydney represented with only one entry.
LibStar (
talk) 00:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Support. There is nothing here which is not a property of People from Sydney (I suspect plenty of entries could be found within the parent cat that apply to the sub-cat, but then the question of "what is Greater Western Sydney?" which has never been completely determined comes up.)
Orderinchaos 15:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose There is nothing wrong with sub-cats by region for large cities such as Sydney. If the definition needs to be tightened, then lets tighten it, if the category needs to be populated from the parent category, then populate it - but there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. --
Mattinbgn (
talk) 22:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I'd normally agree, but when I came to do my schools lists, I found there was as many definitions of GWS as there were people defining them. The area around Carlingford, and whether Lakemba and surrounds were part of GWS seemed to be two of the issues to resolve. There's a definition used by the councils which includes Carlingford and excludes Lakemba, at least one state government body does the reverse. It's not like the rural regions where statutory definitions exist.
Orderinchaos 03:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)reply
what is the definition of Greater Western Sydney? there is actually no accepted definition.
LibStar (
talk) 23:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Category:People from the North Shore, Sydney with the
North Shore (Sydney) article using both the terms "not clearly defined" and "it has been incorrectly used", suggesting another non-universal definition and the latter in such an article usually indicates an editor with a pretty firm opinion on disputed boundaries
Would it be better to totally overhaul the categories and use the local government areas as the unit for division? Or does that bring it's own problems - e.g. if local government is reorganised too often, or biographies don't specify the council area?
Timrollpickering (
talk) 14:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Tim, good pick up. With the exception of Sutherland Shire, the other areas are not defined objectively, bios would say suburb born which would indicate Local government area LGA. But doesn't mean they actually grew up there. LGA are too cumbersome, there are at least 40 in Sydney and some are only a few square km in size.
LibStar (
talk) 13:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.