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The result of the discussion was:keep. —
ξxplicit 00:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: These seem redundant... if there is a difference in scope, I'm not seeing it. –
Drilnoth (
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Lego video games should be a subcategory of Lego games, although the latter will probably be very sparse.
Lego board games isn't a video game so both are needed.
Tim! (
talk) 07:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Merge I see no reason to seperate out the video games from the other games. This is also not seen by many other editors since most of the Lego Games category is video games.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:16, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are about 30 Lego board games, and so distinguishing that these are video games makes sense.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 09:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Fair enough, but then the Lego games category needs to be more clearly defined and not include tons of video games. –
Drilnoth (
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That's what I meant. The "Lego games" category itself shouldn't have video games, this subcategory should. I'd withdraw this, but other people feel it should be merged, so I'll leave it up to the closing admin. –
Drilnoth (
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Keep the Lego video games separate from Lego games in the interest of content organization.
gidonb (
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Category:Marvel Comics characters with accelerated healing
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale: This is a
trivial intersection which does not usefully categorize these articles. What constitutes "accelerated healing" is additionally
subjective in the context of a comics franchise.
Simone (
talk) 20:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Most of the subcategories of
Category:Fictional characters by superhuman feature or ability are fine to me, because they usefully categorize the fictional characters by their major abilities. The issue with the "accelerated healing" category is that there are very few super-heroes who have "accelerated healing" as their main ability. There are so many Marvel comics characters which do have accelerated healing to some extent or another that it's difficult to see how this could be useful. If kept, the category probably requires extensive clean-up to sort out articles which don't really belong in it, like
Mister Immortal, who can regenerate himself once dead, but otherwise has no magical healing powers. The parent category suffers from the same problems.
Simone (
talk) 07:21, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
You might want to CfD tag the parent and some of the siblings, too, in that case. I see there's a DC category. Or perhaps it's best to use the Marvel grouping as a test case. Your call.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 15:18, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Probably better just to deal with this case at the moment. I'll make a multiple nomination of some related categories if there is consensus to delete the Marvel cat. Thanks. --
Simone (
talk) 17:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete most categorizing of fictional characters by ability is not useful. The added intersection of specific creator and ability is that much less useful.
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Category:G.I. Joe Live Movie media
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The result of the discussion was:Rename. The capitalisation is best sorted out separately.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: To correspond with the naming of similar film categories.
Fortdj33 (
talk) 19:14, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment Not sure what other categories you may be referring to, but surely "film" should be lowercase, as it is not part of any proper noun?
Shawn in Montreal (
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Oh, I see: in fact, all the sub-categories of
Category:G.I. Joe media have similar mistakes in the capitalization of common nouns as if they were Titles: Animated, Toy, Comic, Live Movie, etc.
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Category:Big 12 Conference football stadiums
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. There's no need to categorize college football stadiums by conference.
Jweiss11 (
talk) 14:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete. Agree. Tenuous connection at best between these stadiums.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 16:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete. There's also the situation that this conference seems to be shedding members at an alarming rate, so this category requires updating.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 09:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment Actually it would seem that any stadium that has ever been a big-12 stadium should be in this category. We leave dead people in
Category:American historians, and so we should have any stadium that ever was part of a league in the league related cateogry. If a football team swiitched its stadium we would include both old and new stadiums in the cateogry. There is no reason to limit this category to stadiums currently used by the Big 12.
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Category:American Revolution media
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The result of the discussion was:Merge.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale: The category description states that this is a category for such creative works as "books, plays, poems" etc., etc. -- none of which are considered "media" in Wikipedia, as agreed in many prior CfDs. This does not appear to have been created by Stefanomione.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Category:I'm a Celebrity…Get Me out of Here! navbox templates
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
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Category:I'm a Celebrity…Get Me out of Here! contestants
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
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Category:Article Feedback Pilot
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Article Feedback Tool is now deployed throughout all of en.wp, so this category does nothing. If I'm mistaken, I will withdraw the nomination. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
This may safely be deleted.--
Jorm (WMF) (
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Category:J.Williams (singer)
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus to delete, but will be renamed to add the space where it's needed. —
ξxplicit 00:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. Most of the entries here are just pictures and if that was enough to warrant an eponymous category, there should be eponymous categories for nearly everyone with an article. But categories in general should be based on article content, not images or audio files. Eponymous categories for music artists are generally not kept when there are just albums and songs per
WP:OC#EPONYMOUS, because they can all be typically linked from the eponymous article.
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (
talk) 06:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete This is rife with problems. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Again, images are not articles and are not a reason to create an eponymous category. Otherwise, since most music artists with albums/songs categories have images of their album/single covers, this could result in needless eponymous categories for all of them. --
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (
talk) 17:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I don't think anyone is saying that. The issue is how many articles and subcategories there are. There's no reason the images can't go in an images subcategory, and then one considers the articles and subcategories all together by asking—is there enough for an eponymous category here?
Good Ol’factory(talk) 07:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep - parent category for
Category:J.Williams (singer) songs, which has eight articles in it. If nothing else, it can be used to navigate through the subcats. --
Simone (
talk) 07:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete It is long established that a songs category does not mean we have to have a category for the singer of those songs.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Neutral. Since I commented above I wanted to emphasize that I don't really have an opinion on this case one way or the other. It would be nice if we could sort of find a happy medium rule-of-thumb cut-off in which the eponymous category guideline is activated for musicians, but it seems to be a difficult issue on which reasonable editors disagree. I don't know what the answer is.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to J. Williams and keep as a useful root for articles about the J. Williams albums, songs etc.
gidonb (
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The result of the discussion was:keep. —
ξxplicit 00:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: These seem redundant... if there is a difference in scope, I'm not seeing it. –
Drilnoth (
T/
C) 22:52, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Lego video games should be a subcategory of Lego games, although the latter will probably be very sparse.
Lego board games isn't a video game so both are needed.
Tim! (
talk) 07:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Merge I see no reason to seperate out the video games from the other games. This is also not seen by many other editors since most of the Lego Games category is video games.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:16, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. There are about 30 Lego board games, and so distinguishing that these are video games makes sense.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 09:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Fair enough, but then the Lego games category needs to be more clearly defined and not include tons of video games. –
Drilnoth (
T/
C) 22:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
That's what I meant. The "Lego games" category itself shouldn't have video games, this subcategory should. I'd withdraw this, but other people feel it should be merged, so I'll leave it up to the closing admin. –
Drilnoth (
T/
C) 21:27, 23 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep the Lego video games separate from Lego games in the interest of content organization.
gidonb (
talk) 21:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Marvel Comics characters with accelerated healing
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:09, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: This is a
trivial intersection which does not usefully categorize these articles. What constitutes "accelerated healing" is additionally
subjective in the context of a comics franchise.
Simone (
talk) 20:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Most of the subcategories of
Category:Fictional characters by superhuman feature or ability are fine to me, because they usefully categorize the fictional characters by their major abilities. The issue with the "accelerated healing" category is that there are very few super-heroes who have "accelerated healing" as their main ability. There are so many Marvel comics characters which do have accelerated healing to some extent or another that it's difficult to see how this could be useful. If kept, the category probably requires extensive clean-up to sort out articles which don't really belong in it, like
Mister Immortal, who can regenerate himself once dead, but otherwise has no magical healing powers. The parent category suffers from the same problems.
Simone (
talk) 07:21, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
You might want to CfD tag the parent and some of the siblings, too, in that case. I see there's a DC category. Or perhaps it's best to use the Marvel grouping as a test case. Your call.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 15:18, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Probably better just to deal with this case at the moment. I'll make a multiple nomination of some related categories if there is consensus to delete the Marvel cat. Thanks. --
Simone (
talk) 17:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete most categorizing of fictional characters by ability is not useful. The added intersection of specific creator and ability is that much less useful.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:G.I. Joe Live Movie media
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The result of the discussion was:Rename. The capitalisation is best sorted out separately.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: To correspond with the naming of similar film categories.
Fortdj33 (
talk) 19:14, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment Not sure what other categories you may be referring to, but surely "film" should be lowercase, as it is not part of any proper noun?
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 19:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Oh, I see: in fact, all the sub-categories of
Category:G.I. Joe media have similar mistakes in the capitalization of common nouns as if they were Titles: Animated, Toy, Comic, Live Movie, etc.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 19:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Big 12 Conference football stadiums
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. There's no need to categorize college football stadiums by conference.
Jweiss11 (
talk) 14:54, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete. Agree. Tenuous connection at best between these stadiums.
Jrcla2 (
talk) 16:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete. There's also the situation that this conference seems to be shedding members at an alarming rate, so this category requires updating.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 09:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment Actually it would seem that any stadium that has ever been a big-12 stadium should be in this category. We leave dead people in
Category:American historians, and so we should have any stadium that ever was part of a league in the league related cateogry. If a football team swiitched its stadium we would include both old and new stadiums in the cateogry. There is no reason to limit this category to stadiums currently used by the Big 12.
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talk) 04:00, 20 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:Merge.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:11, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The category description states that this is a category for such creative works as "books, plays, poems" etc., etc. -- none of which are considered "media" in Wikipedia, as agreed in many prior CfDs. This does not appear to have been created by Stefanomione.
Shawn in Montreal (
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
Timrollpickering (
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Category:I'm a Celebrity…Get Me out of Here! contestants
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy rename C2D.
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The result of the discussion was:Delete.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 20:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Article Feedback Tool is now deployed throughout all of en.wp, so this category does nothing. If I'm mistaken, I will withdraw the nomination. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:19, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
This may safely be deleted.--
Jorm (WMF) (
talk) 05:22, 22 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:J.Williams (singer)
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus to delete, but will be renamed to add the space where it's needed. —
ξxplicit 00:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. Most of the entries here are just pictures and if that was enough to warrant an eponymous category, there should be eponymous categories for nearly everyone with an article. But categories in general should be based on article content, not images or audio files. Eponymous categories for music artists are generally not kept when there are just albums and songs per
WP:OC#EPONYMOUS, because they can all be typically linked from the eponymous article.
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (
talk) 06:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete This is rife with problems. —
Justin (koavf)❤
T☮
C☺
M☯ 09:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Again, images are not articles and are not a reason to create an eponymous category. Otherwise, since most music artists with albums/songs categories have images of their album/single covers, this could result in needless eponymous categories for all of them. --
Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (
talk) 17:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)reply
I don't think anyone is saying that. The issue is how many articles and subcategories there are. There's no reason the images can't go in an images subcategory, and then one considers the articles and subcategories all together by asking—is there enough for an eponymous category here?
Good Ol’factory(talk) 07:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep - parent category for
Category:J.Williams (singer) songs, which has eight articles in it. If nothing else, it can be used to navigate through the subcats. --
Simone (
talk) 07:25, 16 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Delete It is long established that a songs category does not mean we have to have a category for the singer of those songs.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 06:21, 18 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Neutral. Since I commented above I wanted to emphasize that I don't really have an opinion on this case one way or the other. It would be nice if we could sort of find a happy medium rule-of-thumb cut-off in which the eponymous category guideline is activated for musicians, but it seems to be a difficult issue on which reasonable editors disagree. I don't know what the answer is.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 23:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to J. Williams and keep as a useful root for articles about the J. Williams albums, songs etc.
gidonb (
talk) 21:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)reply
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