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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Woodlands Church
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According to the logs, this article was first deleted after a PROD on 17 June 2007. The PROD was contested, so the article got restored and AfD'ed on 30 June 2007. By unanimous consensus, it was deleted again on 5 July 2007. Then it was re-created and deleted under G4 on 7 June 2008; but, apparently unknown to the AfD participants, there seems to have another version still extant under the organization's other name, Fellowship of The Woodlands. In 2009, a user renamed the other version to Woodlands Church, and by doing so they must have inadvertently bypassed NPP. I noticed this recently and tagged it for G4, but another user followed me and reverted the tag for reasons that he will doubtless explain. This article has two kinds of sources: the organization itself and some WP:MILL coverage in the local newspaper. Please will the community approve its deletion, and also salt the title considering that it's been disruptively re-created so many times? — S Marshall T/ C 20:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete Well, sourcing confirms they've moved into a new home and opened a daycare centre, I'm not sure why that's notable. I can't find anything that makes this church historic, it's a large church. Oaktree b ( talk) 22:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Remarkable sleuthing, looks like it fails notability. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 00:15, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
Kerry Shook should also be considered; this is an utterly MILL megachurch and most of its publicity is paid for, along with Shook's.
Nate • (
chatter) 00:20, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- He's probably ok, I find some book reviews in Publisher's Weekly. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:04, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Since it's his church, do you think a redirect (to Kerry Shook) and trimming of fat of the church-related content would be a good idea? WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:48, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'd support that, Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- He won't be pastor forever, I don't see a redirect as being useful in this case.
Oaktree b (
talk) 20:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- except that he established it in the first place which isn't going to change, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:32, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 22:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Woodlands Church
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According to the logs, this article was first deleted after a PROD on 17 June 2007. The PROD was contested, so the article got restored and AfD'ed on 30 June 2007. By unanimous consensus, it was deleted again on 5 July 2007. Then it was re-created and deleted under G4 on 7 June 2008; but, apparently unknown to the AfD participants, there seems to have another version still extant under the organization's other name, Fellowship of The Woodlands. In 2009, a user renamed the other version to Woodlands Church, and by doing so they must have inadvertently bypassed NPP. I noticed this recently and tagged it for G4, but another user followed me and reverted the tag for reasons that he will doubtless explain. This article has two kinds of sources: the organization itself and some WP:MILL coverage in the local newspaper. Please will the community approve its deletion, and also salt the title considering that it's been disruptively re-created so many times? — S Marshall T/ C 20:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. — S Marshall T/ C 20:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Well, sourcing confirms they've moved into a new home and opened a daycare centre, I'm not sure why that's notable. I can't find anything that makes this church historic, it's a large church. Oaktree b ( talk) 22:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Remarkable sleuthing, looks like it fails notability. ~ Pbritti ( talk) 00:15, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete
Kerry Shook should also be considered; this is an utterly MILL megachurch and most of its publicity is paid for, along with Shook's.
Nate • (
chatter) 00:20, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- He's probably ok, I find some book reviews in Publisher's Weekly. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:04, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Since it's his church, do you think a redirect (to Kerry Shook) and trimming of fat of the church-related content would be a good idea? WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:48, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'd support that, Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- He won't be pastor forever, I don't see a redirect as being useful in this case.
Oaktree b (
talk) 20:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- except that he established it in the first place which isn't going to change, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 20:32, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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