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The result was speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 05:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Mexia Supermarket
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Fails WP:NCORP, fails WP:NEVENT.
Specifically, this is an article about either Mexia Supermarket the business, or about the event of the food there becoming rotten and going off after the power was cut there.
If this is an article about Mexia Supermarket as a business, then its notability is not established as the only sources cited are local newspapers and an ~1 minute-long interview with the guy in charge of the clean-up on an Ancient Aliens-style speculative television program. Local newspapers alone cannot establish the notability of an article per WP:AUD. An interview with the guy in charge of the clean-up is not an independent source and in any event was not significant coverage.
If instead we look at this as an event, there's a clear lack of WP:LASTING coverage or WP:GEOSCOPE. The newspaper coverage was all in local papers and all comes in an approximate four-week period from 13 November 1999 to 9 December 1999, with no coverage at all in reliable, independent sources after that - the story had no WP:PERSISTENCE. As discussed above, the interview is not independent and not in a high quality source, but additionally the real subject of the show it was on was not this event but simply to use it to illustrate what would happen to food stockpiles if humanity suddenly disappeared.
A search on Newspapers.com and other sources failed to turn up anything further covering this business/event. For the avoidance of doubt, Google Maps is not a reliable source.
Ultimately this is just a very run-of-the-mill event common in communities around the world: "local thing smells bad and people complain". FOARP ( talk) 21:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and Texas. FOARP ( talk) 21:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- As stated on the article's talk page, I, as creator of the page, don't contest its deletion. I was more swept up in just making the thing than actually ascertaining whether it had enough coverage to qualify, which was rather silly given quite how much time I spent actually looking for sources; to clarify, I didn't find any further lasting coverage or initial coverage of the incident. As stated on the talk page, I was at least a little surprised by how little lasting coverage there was beyond that history channel docuseries.
- I'd be willing to CSD it under
WP:G7.
CommissarDoggo
Talk? 21:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- There were some TV news broadcasts about this story at the time, albeit still local. It may have been worth covering on a larger scale but maybe they didn't want the world to focus on the embarrassing incident. Beyond the 2010 appearance in Life After People, this story has gained more traction through a video by Blameitonjorge called 'Disturbing Lost Recordings of Real Events, uploaded Nov 25, 2023. It has as of now 739k views. The lost footage refers to the full unedited tape of the store from the Life After People episode showing rotted food and hazmat workers clearing it away. The News broadcasts are not publicly viewable currently. They are known to exist through news logs. This is a part of the
- KXAS-NBC 5 News Collection at the University of North Texas. One may need special clearance and a fee to access the broadcasts. Here is a link showing 2 Mexia stories on the same page. There were some other ones too including the December public meeting held after the store was cleaned.
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https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth439620/m1/93/?q=%22mexia%22
Benmac1089 (
talk) 19:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Like you said, this is still local coverage. It also doesn't get over the fact that this is a very run-of-the-mill story of the kind that regularly appears in local news. I mean, just looking at the news in the UK from the last 12 months for stories in the county of Sussex that are "thing smells bad, locals complain" I see:
- "People in coastal town complain of bad 'stench' in the air from industrial plant"
- "Unpleasant smell in Arundel explained - 'Steps are being taken to reduce odours'"
- "The mystery stench plaguing a small seaside town"
- "Barnham: Village hit with 'tsunami of sewage'"
- "Smelly seaweed row erupts as council refuses to remove kelp for eco reasons"
- ...and that's not even reading all the way to the bottom of the first page of results. This is clearly the kind of run-of-the-mill story that local news runs all the time and not something remarkable. FOARP ( talk) 21:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Like you said, this is still local coverage. It also doesn't get over the fact that this is a very run-of-the-mill story of the kind that regularly appears in local news. I mean, just looking at the news in the UK from the last 12 months for stories in the county of Sussex that are "thing smells bad, locals complain" I see:
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Companies. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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✎ 00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The actual circumstances of neglect and miscommunication and of this scale are unusual. I don't know why you are solely focused on one of the five senses. Benmac1089 ( talk) 23:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 05:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Mexia Supermarket
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Fails WP:NCORP, fails WP:NEVENT.
Specifically, this is an article about either Mexia Supermarket the business, or about the event of the food there becoming rotten and going off after the power was cut there.
If this is an article about Mexia Supermarket as a business, then its notability is not established as the only sources cited are local newspapers and an ~1 minute-long interview with the guy in charge of the clean-up on an Ancient Aliens-style speculative television program. Local newspapers alone cannot establish the notability of an article per WP:AUD. An interview with the guy in charge of the clean-up is not an independent source and in any event was not significant coverage.
If instead we look at this as an event, there's a clear lack of WP:LASTING coverage or WP:GEOSCOPE. The newspaper coverage was all in local papers and all comes in an approximate four-week period from 13 November 1999 to 9 December 1999, with no coverage at all in reliable, independent sources after that - the story had no WP:PERSISTENCE. As discussed above, the interview is not independent and not in a high quality source, but additionally the real subject of the show it was on was not this event but simply to use it to illustrate what would happen to food stockpiles if humanity suddenly disappeared.
A search on Newspapers.com and other sources failed to turn up anything further covering this business/event. For the avoidance of doubt, Google Maps is not a reliable source.
Ultimately this is just a very run-of-the-mill event common in communities around the world: "local thing smells bad and people complain". FOARP ( talk) 21:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and Texas. FOARP ( talk) 21:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- As stated on the article's talk page, I, as creator of the page, don't contest its deletion. I was more swept up in just making the thing than actually ascertaining whether it had enough coverage to qualify, which was rather silly given quite how much time I spent actually looking for sources; to clarify, I didn't find any further lasting coverage or initial coverage of the incident. As stated on the talk page, I was at least a little surprised by how little lasting coverage there was beyond that history channel docuseries.
- I'd be willing to CSD it under
WP:G7.
CommissarDoggo
Talk? 21:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- There were some TV news broadcasts about this story at the time, albeit still local. It may have been worth covering on a larger scale but maybe they didn't want the world to focus on the embarrassing incident. Beyond the 2010 appearance in Life After People, this story has gained more traction through a video by Blameitonjorge called 'Disturbing Lost Recordings of Real Events, uploaded Nov 25, 2023. It has as of now 739k views. The lost footage refers to the full unedited tape of the store from the Life After People episode showing rotted food and hazmat workers clearing it away. The News broadcasts are not publicly viewable currently. They are known to exist through news logs. This is a part of the
- KXAS-NBC 5 News Collection at the University of North Texas. One may need special clearance and a fee to access the broadcasts. Here is a link showing 2 Mexia stories on the same page. There were some other ones too including the December public meeting held after the store was cleaned.
-
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth439620/m1/93/?q=%22mexia%22
Benmac1089 (
talk) 19:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Like you said, this is still local coverage. It also doesn't get over the fact that this is a very run-of-the-mill story of the kind that regularly appears in local news. I mean, just looking at the news in the UK from the last 12 months for stories in the county of Sussex that are "thing smells bad, locals complain" I see:
- "People in coastal town complain of bad 'stench' in the air from industrial plant"
- "Unpleasant smell in Arundel explained - 'Steps are being taken to reduce odours'"
- "The mystery stench plaguing a small seaside town"
- "Barnham: Village hit with 'tsunami of sewage'"
- "Smelly seaweed row erupts as council refuses to remove kelp for eco reasons"
- ...and that's not even reading all the way to the bottom of the first page of results. This is clearly the kind of run-of-the-mill story that local news runs all the time and not something remarkable. FOARP ( talk) 21:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Like you said, this is still local coverage. It also doesn't get over the fact that this is a very run-of-the-mill story of the kind that regularly appears in local news. I mean, just looking at the news in the UK from the last 12 months for stories in the county of Sussex that are "thing smells bad, locals complain" I see:
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Companies. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Environment-related deletion discussions.
WCQuidditch
☎
✎ 00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The actual circumstances of neglect and miscommunication and of this scale are unusual. I don't know why you are solely focused on one of the five senses. Benmac1089 ( talk) 23:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.