The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Noting that
CSD G5: pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, is also applicable.
Malcolmxl5 (
talk) 21:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I've been party to various "is this a meaningful list or isn't it" debates, but I reckon this takes the biscuit.
WP:LISTCRUFT --
DoubleGrazing (
talk) 18:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm sure it isn't a meaningless list, the list isn't intended to be only a simple list of links, but should include the number of works to every entry, thereby allowing a comparison of lifetime production. I think my original inspiration was Wittgenstein "genius" but only published 1 book during his lifetime, compared to, for example, Picasso
who was prolific.
John B123, Rodw reviewed the article and didn't think it was needing deletion, so your opinion is currently in a minority (probably) of 1:3. Perhaps you'd like to refer to
Chunking (psychology) "...individual pieces of an information set are broken down and then grouped together in a meaningful whole...", I couldn't think of any other meaning to "biscuit" than dog-food (with biscuits) (I don't own a dog), or biscuits (human biscuits), I don't own any either, and don't want to (sorry to be flippant)
i am uniquepw (
talk) 18:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete nothing notable or defining about the entries in this list, and thus no need for it to exist. Suggest, based on history and articles under discussion, creator take a pause to learn more about Wikipedia policies before diving into creation. Courtesy pings to
John B123 who are mentioned above.
StarM 18:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment reading further into their cited reason for creation makes me endorse the second half of my comment. The issue is not Tolstoy v. Leo Tolstoy (as in disambiguation needed), which seems to be the
creation reason. Courtesy @
PamD:StarM 19:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Star Mississippi: "nothing notable or defining about the entries in this list, and thus no need for it to exist." the subject is "
productivity" "works" ---> number of works
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
the list would be useful because by seeing numbers of works produced: for example
Wittgenstein produced 1 published philosophical work in his lifetime +
"genius" compared to
Pablo Picasso - who produced
1000's, people could identify patterns of causes to different productivity - the defining aspects are: creativity & productivity
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC) correction after signature
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
DoubleGrazing: your biscuit was taken (the guy had flees, he must have taken it and ... (had fleas) - I don't fleas, and I never have
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC) pinged after signature (the only thing I have done needing an apology, because I'm not guilty, by rights of ... my tale is true, I am not a roamer (i.e. "indiscriminate") to
sniff outi am uniquepw (
talk) 19:34, 6 March 2021 (UTC) corrected error after signature ---> "done" (a
do-do I don't stink, really - my work is
eau de toilette, not a stinky mess)
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment an AfD discussion is not really the place for the above,
UniquepwStarM 19:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I copied the article to my sandbox, so it's possible I won't argue if others think deletion is necessary
i am uniquepw (
talk) 20:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
i am unique pw is
moving the goalposts. How numerically prolific an individual is - something not explicitly specified as a criterion or implied in any way by the article title - is a rather meaningless statistic. As
Gimli would say, the
Sistine Chapel ceiling "still only counts as one" work, the same as the three-word poem "
Lines on the Antiquity of Microbes".
Clarityfiend (
talk) 21:46, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete so I agree the scope is too broad and decided to divide the article to list of fine art works, list of scientific writings, list of fictional writings, list of philosophical writings - based on number of works, lifetime, years active ... within my sandbox
i am uniquepw (
talk) 22:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment There are a lot of
Category:Works by creator.
Category:Philosophical works by writer, you got list of works by painters, writers, filmmakers, and others.
List of works by Stephen King is on the list. Every single writer who has enough work to have a separate article to list it all could be on this vague list. Doesn't seem to serve any point as it is now. Not sure if this navigational list can be turned into anything useful.
DreamFocus 23:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:SALAT. Far too broad of a topic for a list.
Ajf773 (
talk) 08:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete Too broad for this website to handle.
Mohanabhil (
talk) 14:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)reply
DeleteThis would include many, many thousands of notable works by hundreds of different authors. This is a list of lists that lacks clear, specific inclusion criteria. One link took me to a list of buildings by the same architect. In principle, it could include hundreds of bibliographies and discographies, plus some filmographies for directors. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 23:27, 10 March 2021 (UTC) 23:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - also, article was created by a sock of
Whalestate, who has now been blocked.
Onel5969TT me 16:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Onel5969, I wondered whose sock that was as he was quacking. I've !voted so I won't delete it.
StarM 17:04, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Noting that
CSD G5: pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, is also applicable.
Malcolmxl5 (
talk) 21:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I've been party to various "is this a meaningful list or isn't it" debates, but I reckon this takes the biscuit.
WP:LISTCRUFT --
DoubleGrazing (
talk) 18:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I'm sure it isn't a meaningless list, the list isn't intended to be only a simple list of links, but should include the number of works to every entry, thereby allowing a comparison of lifetime production. I think my original inspiration was Wittgenstein "genius" but only published 1 book during his lifetime, compared to, for example, Picasso
who was prolific.
John B123, Rodw reviewed the article and didn't think it was needing deletion, so your opinion is currently in a minority (probably) of 1:3. Perhaps you'd like to refer to
Chunking (psychology) "...individual pieces of an information set are broken down and then grouped together in a meaningful whole...", I couldn't think of any other meaning to "biscuit" than dog-food (with biscuits) (I don't own a dog), or biscuits (human biscuits), I don't own any either, and don't want to (sorry to be flippant)
i am uniquepw (
talk) 18:38, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete nothing notable or defining about the entries in this list, and thus no need for it to exist. Suggest, based on history and articles under discussion, creator take a pause to learn more about Wikipedia policies before diving into creation. Courtesy pings to
John B123 who are mentioned above.
StarM 18:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment reading further into their cited reason for creation makes me endorse the second half of my comment. The issue is not Tolstoy v. Leo Tolstoy (as in disambiguation needed), which seems to be the
creation reason. Courtesy @
PamD:StarM 19:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Star Mississippi: "nothing notable or defining about the entries in this list, and thus no need for it to exist." the subject is "
productivity" "works" ---> number of works
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
the list would be useful because by seeing numbers of works produced: for example
Wittgenstein produced 1 published philosophical work in his lifetime +
"genius" compared to
Pablo Picasso - who produced
1000's, people could identify patterns of causes to different productivity - the defining aspects are: creativity & productivity
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC) correction after signature
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
@
DoubleGrazing: your biscuit was taken (the guy had flees, he must have taken it and ... (had fleas) - I don't fleas, and I never have
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC) pinged after signature (the only thing I have done needing an apology, because I'm not guilty, by rights of ... my tale is true, I am not a roamer (i.e. "indiscriminate") to
sniff outi am uniquepw (
talk) 19:34, 6 March 2021 (UTC) corrected error after signature ---> "done" (a
do-do I don't stink, really - my work is
eau de toilette, not a stinky mess)
i am uniquepw (
talk) 19:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment an AfD discussion is not really the place for the above,
UniquepwStarM 19:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
I copied the article to my sandbox, so it's possible I won't argue if others think deletion is necessary
i am uniquepw (
talk) 20:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
i am unique pw is
moving the goalposts. How numerically prolific an individual is - something not explicitly specified as a criterion or implied in any way by the article title - is a rather meaningless statistic. As
Gimli would say, the
Sistine Chapel ceiling "still only counts as one" work, the same as the three-word poem "
Lines on the Antiquity of Microbes".
Clarityfiend (
talk) 21:46, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete so I agree the scope is too broad and decided to divide the article to list of fine art works, list of scientific writings, list of fictional writings, list of philosophical writings - based on number of works, lifetime, years active ... within my sandbox
i am uniquepw (
talk) 22:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment There are a lot of
Category:Works by creator.
Category:Philosophical works by writer, you got list of works by painters, writers, filmmakers, and others.
List of works by Stephen King is on the list. Every single writer who has enough work to have a separate article to list it all could be on this vague list. Doesn't seem to serve any point as it is now. Not sure if this navigational list can be turned into anything useful.
DreamFocus 23:16, 6 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete per
WP:SALAT. Far too broad of a topic for a list.
Ajf773 (
talk) 08:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete Too broad for this website to handle.
Mohanabhil (
talk) 14:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC)reply
DeleteThis would include many, many thousands of notable works by hundreds of different authors. This is a list of lists that lacks clear, specific inclusion criteria. One link took me to a list of buildings by the same architect. In principle, it could include hundreds of bibliographies and discographies, plus some filmographies for directors. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 23:27, 10 March 2021 (UTC) 23:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment - also, article was created by a sock of
Whalestate, who has now been blocked.
Onel5969TT me 16:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks
Onel5969, I wondered whose sock that was as he was quacking. I've !voted so I won't delete it.
StarM 17:04, 12 March 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.