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The result was keep. WP:NPASR on account of low participation though. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 01:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Laura Owen
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This article has had copyright issues for some time now; while those issues have apparently been worked out enough that the csd and corhen search bot tagging have stopped the article still appears to be iffy on the notability front, specifically the General Notability Guidelines. While the article asserts that a governmental position in Kansas there is little else in the article suggest that GNG guidelines are unconditionally met. I am therefore nominating the article for deletion to seek greater community input on whether or not it should remain here on Wikipedia. TomStar81 ( Talk) 15:13, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment. Based on my first look at this, some clarifications are in order:
- (1) Her name was Laura Nicholl when she became Kansas Commerce Secretary in 1991 [1] and when the governor removed her from office in 1992, officially because of unauthorized overseas travel but also possibly due to a political dispute between them. [2] [3] [4] [5] She became Laura Owen when she married former Kansas Lieutenant Governor Dave Owen after he served a short prison sentence for tax evasion in 1994 (President Clinton later pardoned him). [6]
- (2) She was not "elected" as Commerce Secretary: if she had been, it would be a strong argument for her notability under WP:POLITICIAN as the holder of a statewide elected office, but in Kansas this position (head of the Kansas Department of Commerce) is an appointed post.
- (3) There is at least some significant coverage of her tenure and controversial departure from that position. In addition to the sources noted previously, see also [7] [8]. Is this enough to establish notability under our customary standards for state officials? At the moment I'd say it's marginal. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 22:01, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep we normally keep members of any state legislature. I see no reason not to extend that same notability standard to the state Secretary of Commerce.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 00:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. WP:NPASR on account of low participation though. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 01:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Laura Owen
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This article has had copyright issues for some time now; while those issues have apparently been worked out enough that the csd and corhen search bot tagging have stopped the article still appears to be iffy on the notability front, specifically the General Notability Guidelines. While the article asserts that a governmental position in Kansas there is little else in the article suggest that GNG guidelines are unconditionally met. I am therefore nominating the article for deletion to seek greater community input on whether or not it should remain here on Wikipedia. TomStar81 ( Talk) 15:13, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment. Based on my first look at this, some clarifications are in order:
- (1) Her name was Laura Nicholl when she became Kansas Commerce Secretary in 1991 [1] and when the governor removed her from office in 1992, officially because of unauthorized overseas travel but also possibly due to a political dispute between them. [2] [3] [4] [5] She became Laura Owen when she married former Kansas Lieutenant Governor Dave Owen after he served a short prison sentence for tax evasion in 1994 (President Clinton later pardoned him). [6]
- (2) She was not "elected" as Commerce Secretary: if she had been, it would be a strong argument for her notability under WP:POLITICIAN as the holder of a statewide elected office, but in Kansas this position (head of the Kansas Department of Commerce) is an appointed post.
- (3) There is at least some significant coverage of her tenure and controversial departure from that position. In addition to the sources noted previously, see also [7] [8]. Is this enough to establish notability under our customary standards for state officials? At the moment I'd say it's marginal. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 22:01, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep we normally keep members of any state legislature. I see no reason not to extend that same notability standard to the state Secretary of Commerce.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 00:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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