- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy delete. Deleted CSD G5 Creation by banned or blocked users. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Memohwiki Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC) Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Justin Jin
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Contains substantial amounts of hoax content and fails WP:GNG/ WP:NBASIC. The sources in the article as of the time of posting do not demonstrate that this person passes WP:GNG/ WP:NBASIC and can be described as follows:
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The New York Times (1) |  The New York Times is independent of Jin.
|
The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg.
|
 A "Justin Jin" is mentioned as having been a photographer, but he's a professional photojournalist, not someone who was seven years old at the time of the article's publication.
This man is not the Wikipeida article's subject.
|
✘ No |
| The New York Times (2) | The New York Times is independent of Jin.
|
The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg.
|
Again, this article contains a trivial mention of a
different Justin Jin, and the article was published when our Wikipedia article's subject was 1 year old.
|
✘ No |
| National Geographic | ~ Author page on a neworg's website. Not independent of the person the author page is about (but that's a different person than this article's subject entirely) | ~ WP:ABOUTSELF | That is the page for
this Justin Jin, not
the Justin Jin who this Wikipedia article is about.
|
✘ No |
| The Guardian | ~ First-person photo essay, but not written by this article's subject. | The Guardian is green on
WP:RSN.
|
Again,
this Justin Jin is not
this Justin Jin.
|
✘ No |
| South China Morning Post | ~ Author page on a neworg's website. Not independent of the person the author page is about (but that's a different person than this article's subject entirely) | ~ The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg. | This is about the
photojournalist born in 1974, not the
YouTuber born in 2006.
|
✘ No |
| The Vach on YouTube | This article's subject founded and operates The Vach.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Social Blade | Why not?
|
Seems fine
|
This is a database entry.
|
✘ No |
| Voyage LA Magazine | Direct interview with Jin published in an online PR publication.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF; this is effectively a press release. | Indeed, this is about Jin.
|
✘ No |
| The Vach profile of Justin Jin | This is his self-published profile on a website he runs.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Box of Colour on YouTube | This is part of the 50mMidas Media collective, which Jin owns and operates.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF. | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Preneur on YouTube | ? Unclear to me | ~ WP:ABOUTSELF; YouTube profile | Jin is not mentioned once.
|
✘ No |
| "We faked YouTube's oldest video" on The Vach | Jin owns and operates The Vach
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent | ✘ No |
| Vice/Motherboard on TikTok | Why not?
|
~ Vice is WP:MREL at WP:RSP, and this is its TikTok channel | Jin's name is not so much as mentioned in this.
|
✘ No |
| The Independent | Standard U.K.
WP:NEWSORG
|
Standard U.K.
WP:NEWSORG
|
Jin's name is not so much as mentioned once.
|
✘ No |
| The Verge | Why not?
|
Seems fine.
|
Jin is not so much as mentioned by name once.
|
✘ No |
| The Times of India | Why not?
|
~ See WP:TOI | Jin's name is not so much as mentioned in passing.
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
After conducting an online search, I was unable to find additional coverage of this individual that would contribute towards passing WP:GNG. Additionally, several links were used to support hoaxes (the NYT, NatGeo, The Guardian, and SCMP refs refer to a different Justin Jin; this article's subject is not the same born in 2006 per their IMDB Pro page), which I have since removed as such. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 08:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Advertising, Technology, Computing, Internet, and Canada. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 08:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - source analysis makes it pretty clear that the subject fails NBIO.- KH-1 ( talk)
- Delete as the source table shows, it's not notable. Nothing found for RS either, the name is rather common to try and find anything. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:14, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete References not apt Christopheronthemove ( talk) 09:00, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Deleted CSD G5 Creation by banned or blocked users. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Memohwiki Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:00, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy delete. Deleted CSD G5 Creation by banned or blocked users. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Memohwiki Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC) Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Justin Jin
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- Justin Jin ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Contains substantial amounts of hoax content and fails WP:GNG/ WP:NBASIC. The sources in the article as of the time of posting do not demonstrate that this person passes WP:GNG/ WP:NBASIC and can be described as follows:
Source assessment table:
| ||||
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The New York Times (1) | The New York Times is independent of Jin.
|
The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg.
|
A "Justin Jin" is mentioned as having been a photographer, but he's a professional photojournalist, not someone who was seven years old at the time of the article's publication.
This man is not the Wikipeida article's subject.
|
✘ No |
| The New York Times (2) | The New York Times is independent of Jin.
|
The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg.
|
Again, this article contains a trivial mention of a
different Justin Jin, and the article was published when our Wikipedia article's subject was 1 year old.
|
✘ No |
| National Geographic | ~ Author page on a neworg's website. Not independent of the person the author page is about (but that's a different person than this article's subject entirely) | ~ WP:ABOUTSELF | That is the page for
this Justin Jin, not
the Justin Jin who this Wikipedia article is about.
|
✘ No |
| The Guardian | ~ First-person photo essay, but not written by this article's subject. | The Guardian is green on
WP:RSN.
|
Again,
this Justin Jin is not
this Justin Jin.
|
✘ No |
| South China Morning Post | ~ Author page on a neworg's website. Not independent of the person the author page is about (but that's a different person than this article's subject entirely) | ~ The New York Times is a reputble Newsorg. | This is about the
photojournalist born in 1974, not the
YouTuber born in 2006.
|
✘ No |
| The Vach on YouTube | This article's subject founded and operates The Vach.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Social Blade | Why not?
|
Seems fine
|
This is a database entry.
|
✘ No |
| Voyage LA Magazine | Direct interview with Jin published in an online PR publication.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF; this is effectively a press release. | Indeed, this is about Jin.
|
✘ No |
| The Vach profile of Justin Jin | This is his self-published profile on a website he runs.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Box of Colour on YouTube | This is part of the 50mMidas Media collective, which Jin owns and operates.
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF. | ? Moot as clearly non-independent. | ✘ No |
| Preneur on YouTube | ? Unclear to me | ~ WP:ABOUTSELF; YouTube profile | Jin is not mentioned once.
|
✘ No |
| "We faked YouTube's oldest video" on The Vach | Jin owns and operates The Vach
|
~ WP:ABOUTSELF | ? Moot as clearly non-independent | ✘ No |
| Vice/Motherboard on TikTok | Why not?
|
~ Vice is WP:MREL at WP:RSP, and this is its TikTok channel | Jin's name is not so much as mentioned in this.
|
✘ No |
| The Independent | Standard U.K.
WP:NEWSORG
|
Standard U.K.
WP:NEWSORG
|
Jin's name is not so much as mentioned once.
|
✘ No |
| The Verge | Why not?
|
Seems fine.
|
Jin is not so much as mentioned by name once.
|
✘ No |
| The Times of India | Why not?
|
~ See WP:TOI | Jin's name is not so much as mentioned in passing.
|
✘ No |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. | ||||
After conducting an online search, I was unable to find additional coverage of this individual that would contribute towards passing WP:GNG. Additionally, several links were used to support hoaxes (the NYT, NatGeo, The Guardian, and SCMP refs refer to a different Justin Jin; this article's subject is not the same born in 2006 per their IMDB Pro page), which I have since removed as such. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 08:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Advertising, Technology, Computing, Internet, and Canada. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 08:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - source analysis makes it pretty clear that the subject fails NBIO.- KH-1 ( talk)
- Delete as the source table shows, it's not notable. Nothing found for RS either, the name is rather common to try and find anything. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:14, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete References not apt Christopheronthemove ( talk) 09:00, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Deleted CSD G5 Creation by banned or blocked users. See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Memohwiki Catfish Jim and the soapdish 13:00, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.