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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:05, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Index of Babylon 5 articles
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When I AfD-nomed this index page a month ago, it ended with a keep basically because index pages are allowed per WP:CLN. Well, the Babylon 5 WP:FANCRUFT cleanup drive is nearing the end, and about 90% of the links are redirects now. This Index page is only linked from within {{ Babylon 5}}, where all remaining articles are conveniently linked, i.e. it's completely redundant for navigational purposes. For anything else, this index page is more like an in-universe glossary now, and WP:NOTDIR might apply. – sgeureka t• c 09:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 12:39, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It has outlived its usefulness. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There is a reason we have categories. Ajf773 ( talk) 00:41, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Question In the past 30 days [1] this index has gotten 3,474 page views. So some are still using it. Is there a bot to see how many of the blue links are still to articles and not redirects? Even if 90% are just redirects, well, 10% is still a lot of blue links. I look at Category:Babylon_5 and see a lot of articles seem to exist, but apparently whenever someone went through and turned a lot of them into redirects they left this category tag on them. Is there any bot that can remove all categories from redirect articles other than the Hidden categories? Dream Focus 02:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- From a quick category browse with my specialized css settings, I can tell that most sub-categories are indeed filled with redirects, and the only real articles are all linked from the nav box. I'll have a look soon into how to best clean up these redirect-categories. – sgeureka t• c 07:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Functionally useless, and CLN does state consensus can decide that certain ways are inappropriate. I'd say these lists are extremely poor choices for the management of fiction, which are quite often in massive flux compared to other topics. It makes keeping lists up to date much harder than real world items. TTN ( talk) 15:18, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Because of the huge number of redirects, a navbox would surely serve the purpose better. Josh Milburn ( talk) 16:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Was nothing but a lengthy list of cruft in its heyday and currently fairly useless as more and more of these crufty pages are getting deleted. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 01:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 10:05, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Index of Babylon 5 articles
AfDs for this article:
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- Index of Babylon 5 articles ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
When I AfD-nomed this index page a month ago, it ended with a keep basically because index pages are allowed per WP:CLN. Well, the Babylon 5 WP:FANCRUFT cleanup drive is nearing the end, and about 90% of the links are redirects now. This Index page is only linked from within {{ Babylon 5}}, where all remaining articles are conveniently linked, i.e. it's completely redundant for navigational purposes. For anything else, this index page is more like an in-universe glossary now, and WP:NOTDIR might apply. – sgeureka t• c 09:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 12:39, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It has outlived its usefulness. Clarityfiend ( talk) 20:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:31, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There is a reason we have categories. Ajf773 ( talk) 00:41, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Question In the past 30 days [1] this index has gotten 3,474 page views. So some are still using it. Is there a bot to see how many of the blue links are still to articles and not redirects? Even if 90% are just redirects, well, 10% is still a lot of blue links. I look at Category:Babylon_5 and see a lot of articles seem to exist, but apparently whenever someone went through and turned a lot of them into redirects they left this category tag on them. Is there any bot that can remove all categories from redirect articles other than the Hidden categories? Dream Focus 02:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- From a quick category browse with my specialized css settings, I can tell that most sub-categories are indeed filled with redirects, and the only real articles are all linked from the nav box. I'll have a look soon into how to best clean up these redirect-categories. – sgeureka t• c 07:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Functionally useless, and CLN does state consensus can decide that certain ways are inappropriate. I'd say these lists are extremely poor choices for the management of fiction, which are quite often in massive flux compared to other topics. It makes keeping lists up to date much harder than real world items. TTN ( talk) 15:18, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Because of the huge number of redirects, a navbox would surely serve the purpose better. Josh Milburn ( talk) 16:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Was nothing but a lengthy list of cruft in its heyday and currently fairly useless as more and more of these crufty pages are getting deleted. ZXCVBNM ( TALK) 01:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.