Home • Search • Translate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Although he may/not fail WP:NPOL, !voters point out he has received some significant press coverage which is - or can be - incorporated into the article. (non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 07:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Gabriel Alemparte

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

Gabriel Alemparte (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Absolutely irrelevant activist. Never elected to any office as a politician. He is the vice-president of a party that's never had anybody elected to any post. Definitely non notable Bedivere ( talk) 04:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Chile. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. I see this is also up for deletion on Spanish Wikipedia. Mccapra ( talk) 06:35, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as a failure of WP:NPOL. Bungle ( talk • contribs) 18:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Has not held any role that would confer automatic passage of WP:NPOL in and of itself, but the article features neither the substance nor the sourcing needed to get him over WP:GNG instead. Bearcat ( talk) 17:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Gabriel Alemparte is the vice president of a political party officially established in Chile, in addition to being a public figure of the Chilean center right-wing, he is a columnist in several relevant media outlets in the press, such as La Tercera. This article should not to be deleted due to the political bias of some editors, because the relevance is proven and can possibly be improved by adding other reliable sources than those it already has.-- Igallards7 ( talk) 19:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Igallards7: the political bias of some editors? I really think you can vote without the personal attack.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Bbb23 This is not about attacking or making gratuitous accusations, I am saying that relevance can be demonstrated with reliable and verifiable sources. In honor of neutrality, it would be good to see what happens with the relevance of biographies of other vice presidents of other national political parties officially established in a country. Igallards7 ( talk) 20:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Making controversial and polemic remarks on a low-rank TV program is not making Alemparte notable. Bedivere ( talk) 02:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    By the way @ Bbb23, isn't this canvassing [1] from Carigval.97 ( talk · contribs)? Bedivere ( talk) 02:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes, it's blatant canvassing. I've warned the user. Please let me know if it happens again.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: There's no failure of WP:NPOL, because Alemparte has received an important coverage from media (both pro-government and Boric-opponent media, for example El Desconcierto or Ex-Ante). Similarly, Alemparte has held state–offices like the surrogate mayor's office of Maipú or even the position of Chief of staff of ministeries during the governments of Michelle Bachelet.-- Carigval.97 ( talk) 18:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Evidently fails NPOL. Never elected to an office, fails NPOL, and has never held any state-office', that is blatantly untrue. In Chile, the equivalent of state/province-wide office is gobernador regional, delegado presidencial regional, delegado presidencial provincial, and in general members of Consejos Regionales and members of the Parliament, in addition to Cabinet members. Mayors, for instance, are not inherently notable, unless it is Santiago or regional capitals. Bedivere ( talk) 02:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
I repeat, despite Alemparte's offices, you are ignoring a point that establishes the same rule you cited ( WP:NPOL): 'Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage' (in Alemparte's cases: Radio Bío-Bío, La Tercera, El Desconcierto, Diario Financiero, etc). In the US, there's the case of Tony Podesta, a lobbist and activist (as you say about Alemparte) who has not held any position (neither in a political party nor in the state) and who has had press coverage given his controversies.-- Carigval.97 ( talk) 14:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Meets WP:NPOL criteria. He has media coverage and held a state office as mayor of a commune in Santiago, Chile.-- 6UNK3R ( talk) 21:00, 26 December 2023 (UTC) — 6UNK3R ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. -- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    He was just an interim mayor, as he was appointed by the incumbent mayor temporarily and held the office just for a little time. That does not confer notability at all. You can imagine, had we taken that stance, there would be hundreds of thousands of articles about such "surrogate mayors" (as Carigval mentions them). Bedivere ( talk) 02:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The sentence 'Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage' in WP:NPOL is not a pass/fail criteria like the other bullets in NPOL. The SNG is written in a way to provide automatic passes to national and statewide elected officials. Because many elected officials serve in local offices, with powers and responsibilities that vary greatly, the SNG provides a way for local officials to meet our communities notability standard by meeting GNG. So, if the individual does not hold an elected or appointed federal/ statewide position, we must apply GNG and evaluate the sourcing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enos733 ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Per WP:NPOL. Also he is a public figure. -- Carlos yo ( talk) 15:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Carlos yo As expressed above he evidently fails NPOL. How does Alemparte pass GNG? Bedivere ( talk) 16:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Bedivere, the NPOL applies —as Carlos Yo, 6UNKR, and Enos have also expressed (this last one in the edition history)—... Partially, but it applies (for the significant press coverage). Similarly, Alemparte passes GNG because at least fourteen reliable, independent, secondary, and published sources provide significant coverage specifically about him (Alemparte). [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] Carigval.97 ( talk) 16:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Please read carefully NPOL. If this person fails NPOL, as they do, it could still pass GNG. My opinion is that he doesn't. While he has made controversial remarks as a result of his participation on a TV show, that does not make him notable. Furthermore the article reads like a CV. That's why I ask @ SportingFlyer to reconsider. This seems to me like a promotional effort in favor of Alemparte. Bedivere ( talk) 01:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    I've re-reviewed the article and done a source search and even when you discard Sin Filtros and interviews, I think there's still enough there to pass GNG. There's just quite a bit of coverage from all corners in the past couple years or so. I've also seen articles that read far closer to CVs than this one. SportingFlyer T· C 03:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep NPOL aside, it seems to me as if he passes GNG in Spanish-language sources. Not a normal keep because my selective review wasn't convincing (not sure if sources are reliable, one was an interview), but it was good enough on the whole. SportingFlyer T· C 18:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply


List of Realiable Sources

  1. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte, tras apoyo de Demócratas al A favor: Es una frivolidad política decir que esta es la Constitución de Kast". Ex-Ante. 2 November 2023. Retrieved 25 December 2023.
  2. ^ ""Nos pillaron, ¡somos amantes!": Ximena Rincón lanza irónica aclaración de su relación con Gabriel Alemparte". 24 Horas. 12 December 2023. Retrieved 19 December 2023.
  3. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y crisis sanitaria: Hay una lamentable falta de gestión, que por una sobre ideologización termina costando vidas". Ex-Ante. 13 June 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  4. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte, el hombre que cree saber más de lo que sabe". La Voz de los que Sobran. 7 September 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  5. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte: "La díada rechazo y apruebo constituirá un nuevo parteaguas en la ex Concertación"". Diario Financiero. 30 April 2022. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  6. ^ "Alemparte cuestiona a Baltasar Garzón: En Twitter le recuerdan cuando le profesó admiración" (in Spanish). El Desconcierto. 18 July 2023. Retrieved 19 December 2023.
  7. ^ "Respuesta de CIPER a la declaración de Gabriel Alemparte en el programa Sin Filtros". CIPER. 4 July 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  8. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y amenaza de expulsiones en la DC por apoyos al Rechazo: La libertad de expresión no se pierde por pertenecer a un partido". Ex-Ante. 14 July 2022. Retrieved 25 December 2023.
  9. ^ "«Su insistencia da cuenta de su ignorancia»: el cruce de Gabriel Alemparte con Bárbara Sepúlveda tras acusación del abogado contra el PC". The Clinic. 4 November 2022. Retrieved 27 December 2023.
  10. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y momento de furia en Sin Filtros tras ser acusado de lobbista: abandonó el estudio" (in Spanish). Radio Bío Bío. 30 May 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  11. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte lanzó dura acusación sobre el pasado de Jaime Bassa tras tenso cruce entre ambos". The Clinic. 27 September 2022. Retrieved 27 December 2023.
  12. ^ "La sorprendente defensa de Alemparte a Boric tras criticada frase de Mellado". El Desconcierto. 18 November 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  13. ^ ""Sí, nos pillaron...": Ximena Rincón respondió a las especulaciones amorosas por foto viral con Gabriel Alemparte". ADN Radio Chile. 12 December 2023. Retrieved 28 December 2023.
  14. ^ ""Si yo a usted le dijera guatona...": Gabriel Alemparte reaccionó ante dicho de Paulina Vodanovic". Publimetro Chile. 13 November 2023. Retrieved 28 December 2023.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gabriel_Alemparte&oldid=1192421963"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Although he may/not fail WP:NPOL, !voters point out he has received some significant press coverage which is - or can be - incorporated into the article. (non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 07:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Gabriel Alemparte

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

Gabriel Alemparte (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Absolutely irrelevant activist. Never elected to any office as a politician. He is the vice-president of a party that's never had anybody elected to any post. Definitely non notable Bedivere ( talk) 04:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Chile. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. I see this is also up for deletion on Spanish Wikipedia. Mccapra ( talk) 06:35, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as a failure of WP:NPOL. Bungle ( talk • contribs) 18:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Has not held any role that would confer automatic passage of WP:NPOL in and of itself, but the article features neither the substance nor the sourcing needed to get him over WP:GNG instead. Bearcat ( talk) 17:54, 22 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Gabriel Alemparte is the vice president of a political party officially established in Chile, in addition to being a public figure of the Chilean center right-wing, he is a columnist in several relevant media outlets in the press, such as La Tercera. This article should not to be deleted due to the political bias of some editors, because the relevance is proven and can possibly be improved by adding other reliable sources than those it already has.-- Igallards7 ( talk) 19:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Igallards7: the political bias of some editors? I really think you can vote without the personal attack.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Bbb23 This is not about attacking or making gratuitous accusations, I am saying that relevance can be demonstrated with reliable and verifiable sources. In honor of neutrality, it would be good to see what happens with the relevance of biographies of other vice presidents of other national political parties officially established in a country. Igallards7 ( talk) 20:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Making controversial and polemic remarks on a low-rank TV program is not making Alemparte notable. Bedivere ( talk) 02:28, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    By the way @ Bbb23, isn't this canvassing [1] from Carigval.97 ( talk · contribs)? Bedivere ( talk) 02:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes, it's blatant canvassing. I've warned the user. Please let me know if it happens again.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: There's no failure of WP:NPOL, because Alemparte has received an important coverage from media (both pro-government and Boric-opponent media, for example El Desconcierto or Ex-Ante). Similarly, Alemparte has held state–offices like the surrogate mayor's office of Maipú or even the position of Chief of staff of ministeries during the governments of Michelle Bachelet.-- Carigval.97 ( talk) 18:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Evidently fails NPOL. Never elected to an office, fails NPOL, and has never held any state-office', that is blatantly untrue. In Chile, the equivalent of state/province-wide office is gobernador regional, delegado presidencial regional, delegado presidencial provincial, and in general members of Consejos Regionales and members of the Parliament, in addition to Cabinet members. Mayors, for instance, are not inherently notable, unless it is Santiago or regional capitals. Bedivere ( talk) 02:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
I repeat, despite Alemparte's offices, you are ignoring a point that establishes the same rule you cited ( WP:NPOL): 'Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage' (in Alemparte's cases: Radio Bío-Bío, La Tercera, El Desconcierto, Diario Financiero, etc). In the US, there's the case of Tony Podesta, a lobbist and activist (as you say about Alemparte) who has not held any position (neither in a political party nor in the state) and who has had press coverage given his controversies.-- Carigval.97 ( talk) 14:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Meets WP:NPOL criteria. He has media coverage and held a state office as mayor of a commune in Santiago, Chile.-- 6UNK3R ( talk) 21:00, 26 December 2023 (UTC) — 6UNK3R ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. -- Bbb23 ( talk) 22:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    He was just an interim mayor, as he was appointed by the incumbent mayor temporarily and held the office just for a little time. That does not confer notability at all. You can imagine, had we taken that stance, there would be hundreds of thousands of articles about such "surrogate mayors" (as Carigval mentions them). Bedivere ( talk) 02:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment The sentence 'Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage' in WP:NPOL is not a pass/fail criteria like the other bullets in NPOL. The SNG is written in a way to provide automatic passes to national and statewide elected officials. Because many elected officials serve in local offices, with powers and responsibilities that vary greatly, the SNG provides a way for local officials to meet our communities notability standard by meeting GNG. So, if the individual does not hold an elected or appointed federal/ statewide position, we must apply GNG and evaluate the sourcing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enos733 ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Per WP:NPOL. Also he is a public figure. -- Carlos yo ( talk) 15:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Carlos yo As expressed above he evidently fails NPOL. How does Alemparte pass GNG? Bedivere ( talk) 16:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Bedivere, the NPOL applies —as Carlos Yo, 6UNKR, and Enos have also expressed (this last one in the edition history)—... Partially, but it applies (for the significant press coverage). Similarly, Alemparte passes GNG because at least fourteen reliable, independent, secondary, and published sources provide significant coverage specifically about him (Alemparte). [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] Carigval.97 ( talk) 16:42, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    Please read carefully NPOL. If this person fails NPOL, as they do, it could still pass GNG. My opinion is that he doesn't. While he has made controversial remarks as a result of his participation on a TV show, that does not make him notable. Furthermore the article reads like a CV. That's why I ask @ SportingFlyer to reconsider. This seems to me like a promotional effort in favor of Alemparte. Bedivere ( talk) 01:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
    I've re-reviewed the article and done a source search and even when you discard Sin Filtros and interviews, I think there's still enough there to pass GNG. There's just quite a bit of coverage from all corners in the past couple years or so. I've also seen articles that read far closer to CVs than this one. SportingFlyer T· C 03:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Weak keep NPOL aside, it seems to me as if he passes GNG in Spanish-language sources. Not a normal keep because my selective review wasn't convincing (not sure if sources are reliable, one was an interview), but it was good enough on the whole. SportingFlyer T· C 18:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC) reply


List of Realiable Sources

  1. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte, tras apoyo de Demócratas al A favor: Es una frivolidad política decir que esta es la Constitución de Kast". Ex-Ante. 2 November 2023. Retrieved 25 December 2023.
  2. ^ ""Nos pillaron, ¡somos amantes!": Ximena Rincón lanza irónica aclaración de su relación con Gabriel Alemparte". 24 Horas. 12 December 2023. Retrieved 19 December 2023.
  3. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y crisis sanitaria: Hay una lamentable falta de gestión, que por una sobre ideologización termina costando vidas". Ex-Ante. 13 June 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  4. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte, el hombre que cree saber más de lo que sabe". La Voz de los que Sobran. 7 September 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  5. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte: "La díada rechazo y apruebo constituirá un nuevo parteaguas en la ex Concertación"". Diario Financiero. 30 April 2022. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  6. ^ "Alemparte cuestiona a Baltasar Garzón: En Twitter le recuerdan cuando le profesó admiración" (in Spanish). El Desconcierto. 18 July 2023. Retrieved 19 December 2023.
  7. ^ "Respuesta de CIPER a la declaración de Gabriel Alemparte en el programa Sin Filtros". CIPER. 4 July 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  8. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y amenaza de expulsiones en la DC por apoyos al Rechazo: La libertad de expresión no se pierde por pertenecer a un partido". Ex-Ante. 14 July 2022. Retrieved 25 December 2023.
  9. ^ "«Su insistencia da cuenta de su ignorancia»: el cruce de Gabriel Alemparte con Bárbara Sepúlveda tras acusación del abogado contra el PC". The Clinic. 4 November 2022. Retrieved 27 December 2023.
  10. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte y momento de furia en Sin Filtros tras ser acusado de lobbista: abandonó el estudio" (in Spanish). Radio Bío Bío. 30 May 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  11. ^ "Gabriel Alemparte lanzó dura acusación sobre el pasado de Jaime Bassa tras tenso cruce entre ambos". The Clinic. 27 September 2022. Retrieved 27 December 2023.
  12. ^ "La sorprendente defensa de Alemparte a Boric tras criticada frase de Mellado". El Desconcierto. 18 November 2023. Retrieved 24 December 2023.
  13. ^ ""Sí, nos pillaron...": Ximena Rincón respondió a las especulaciones amorosas por foto viral con Gabriel Alemparte". ADN Radio Chile. 12 December 2023. Retrieved 28 December 2023.
  14. ^ ""Si yo a usted le dijera guatona...": Gabriel Alemparte reaccionó ante dicho de Paulina Vodanovic". Publimetro Chile. 13 November 2023. Retrieved 28 December 2023.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gabriel_Alemparte&oldid=1192421963"

Videos

Youtube | Vimeo | Bing

Websites

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Encyclopedia

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Facebook




Top Of Page

Home • Search • Translate

© CSE