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The result was no consensus. Moving to NC rather than a 3rd relist as we have now been open for 24 days, and without seeming change in position (the same arguments have occurred throughout without major change).

The dispute primarily factored as to whether BLP1E was met, or not. Numerically it was very close as to whether the answer was just "no" or whether there was sufficient notability from areas other than his death (such as the court case).

Since both positions were policy-valid, it's fairly numerically even, no-consensus seems applicable. Nosebagbear ( talk) 23:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Dick Farrel

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I think this goes without saying that this unfortunate any way look at it.

  • In my opinion an article for Mr Farrel would have failed any number of tests for notability WP:JOURNALIST, WP:ANYBIO and so on, when he was still alive.
  • The Wikipedia articles Newsmax and Newsmax TV have no mention of him
  • Analogous to WP:BLP1E, this would appear to me a "Biography of a dead person notable for only one event"

Pete AU aka Shirt58 ( talk) 11:08, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 11:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 11:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete: WP:BLP1E applies. He is not notable for an on-air derogatory comment that ended up in the courts. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 12:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He seems to be notable for two events, a court case and his death. PaulinSaudi ( talk) 19:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: his death has been noticed in German-speaking media (and his famous last words, too):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=%22+Dick+Farrell+%22+site%3A.de -- Präziser ( talk) 19:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The substantiveness of the provided sources hasn't been discussed in detail.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 09:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He is notable for the circumstances of his death and the media coverage. -- Echtner ( talk) 07:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He is notable for the circumstances of his death and the media coverage. Check back in a few years and see what we think then. -- ke4roh ( talk) 17:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am relisting again and can only reiterate the previous relister's comment: The substantiveness of the provided sources hasn't been discussed in detail.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jack Frost ( talk) 22:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Per WP:BLP1E. Radio host wouldn't have been notable if he hadn't died. KidAdSPEAK 00:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per 1E and because the first source provided above doesn't establish notability, he insulted someone and that's it. Avilich ( talk) 01:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I agree with delete comments. Most of the provided references are connected with COVID-19 infection and subject's death, with notability not being evident. The WP:BLP1E guideline should be followed here.-- Melaleuca alternifolia | talk 20:23, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Farrel doesn't pass GNG. FWIW I used to listen to him but that was probably over 25 years ago. I haven't listened to talk radio in at least 20 years. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Per reasons above. He seems to be notable outside his death. That includes: [1], [2], [3], [4] and [5]. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Moving to NC rather than a 3rd relist as we have now been open for 24 days, and without seeming change in position (the same arguments have occurred throughout without major change).

The dispute primarily factored as to whether BLP1E was met, or not. Numerically it was very close as to whether the answer was just "no" or whether there was sufficient notability from areas other than his death (such as the court case).

Since both positions were policy-valid, it's fairly numerically even, no-consensus seems applicable. Nosebagbear ( talk) 23:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Dick Farrel

Dick Farrel (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I think this goes without saying that this unfortunate any way look at it.

  • In my opinion an article for Mr Farrel would have failed any number of tests for notability WP:JOURNALIST, WP:ANYBIO and so on, when he was still alive.
  • The Wikipedia articles Newsmax and Newsmax TV have no mention of him
  • Analogous to WP:BLP1E, this would appear to me a "Biography of a dead person notable for only one event"

Pete AU aka Shirt58 ( talk) 11:08, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 11:41, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 11:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Eastmain ( talkcontribs) 11:44, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: WP:BLP1E applies. He is not notable for an on-air derogatory comment that ended up in the courts. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 12:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He seems to be notable for two events, a court case and his death. PaulinSaudi ( talk) 19:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: his death has been noticed in German-speaking media (and his famous last words, too):
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=%22+Dick+Farrell+%22+site%3A.de -- Präziser ( talk) 19:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The substantiveness of the provided sources hasn't been discussed in detail.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde ( Talk) 09:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He is notable for the circumstances of his death and the media coverage. -- Echtner ( talk) 07:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: He is notable for the circumstances of his death and the media coverage. Check back in a few years and see what we think then. -- ke4roh ( talk) 17:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am relisting again and can only reiterate the previous relister's comment: The substantiveness of the provided sources hasn't been discussed in detail.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jack Frost ( talk) 22:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Per WP:BLP1E. Radio host wouldn't have been notable if he hadn't died. KidAdSPEAK 00:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per 1E and because the first source provided above doesn't establish notability, he insulted someone and that's it. Avilich ( talk) 01:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - I agree with delete comments. Most of the provided references are connected with COVID-19 infection and subject's death, with notability not being evident. The WP:BLP1E guideline should be followed here.-- Melaleuca alternifolia | talk 20:23, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Farrel doesn't pass GNG. FWIW I used to listen to him but that was probably over 25 years ago. I haven't listened to talk radio in at least 20 years. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Per reasons above. He seems to be notable outside his death. That includes: [1], [2], [3], [4] and [5]. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 ( ICE TICE CUBE) 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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