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The result was redirect to List of Otago representative cricketers. (non-admin closure) Shawn Teller ( talk) 01:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Daryll Reddington
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No reliable non-database sources and does not pass WP:NCRICK. I am happy to be proven wrong, but I cannot find any. – Popo Dameron talk 00:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Comment - A much more current name than some that are taken for deletion. I'd be surprised if there's nothing available. What is this source "New Zealand Cricketers 1863/64–2010" that BST has frequently linked to and what does it contain? There is a suitable redirect target at List of Otago representative cricketers. Bobo . 01:00, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NCRIC and WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 01:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Otago representative cricketers Looks to fail WP:GNG, however a suitable redirect clearly exists here, per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 20:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. This issue is bigger than just current article. Somebody created an individual page for nearly every cricketer who are in the List of Otago representative cricketers. It is very doubtful that all of them would pass WP:GNG or WP:BIO, examples are Greg Aim, Harold Cameron, and these are just random pages that I picked.
- Altogether this violates the core principle of
WP:NOTDATABASE. Does it mean that half of the articles in that list must be considered for deletion?
MitYehor (
talk) 21:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I looked through a few of the articles in the list, and it seems you're quite right. I wouldn't be surprised if well over half of them should be deleted. –
Popo Dameron
talk 23:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- You mean like this article? The problem with these is that you can't be sure, without actually searching and doing the whole BEFORE thing whether or not there are sources and how good they are. There's often lots on New Zealanders and a surprising number show up in a range of sources. To just look at the articles in their current state and determine, without that, that loads are non-notable tricky. Some will be - which is wy there are some redirects to the list already. But it takes time to work through and search for sources properly. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I looked through a few of the articles in the list, and it seems you're quite right. I wouldn't be surprised if well over half of them should be deleted. –
Popo Dameron
talk 23:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the list of Otago cricketers, which is a long-established ATD in cases where further biographical details can't be found easily. He certainly worked as a teacher - I have him working in an Intermediate school in Dunedin in 2014 and other sources suggest this as well. There are passing mentions and, probably, a photo in the Otago Daily Times and others, but the sources we'd need to use to build any biography of him aren't available online and it would need an archive search of the paper records (in Dunedin probably) to find anything more - although the chances are that there is more that could be found and as a subject there is the potential for notability here if anyone ever gets to those sources and/or they are eventually digitised. In order to preserve the page history and attribution it would be best, as is the long-established consensus and per the policy ATD to redirect here. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the list of Otago cricketers. He moved from Tokomairiro High School to be principal of Waitahuna School at the beginning of 2022 [1]; nothing notable about that. Paora ( talk) 11:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Otago representative cricketers. (non-admin closure) Shawn Teller ( talk) 01:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Daryll Reddington
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No reliable non-database sources and does not pass WP:NCRICK. I am happy to be proven wrong, but I cannot find any. – Popo Dameron talk 00:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Cricket. – Popo Dameron talk 00:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" ( work / talk) 00:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - A much more current name than some that are taken for deletion. I'd be surprised if there's nothing available. What is this source "New Zealand Cricketers 1863/64–2010" that BST has frequently linked to and what does it contain? There is a suitable redirect target at List of Otago representative cricketers. Bobo . 01:00, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NCRIC and WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 01:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Otago representative cricketers Looks to fail WP:GNG, however a suitable redirect clearly exists here, per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 ( talk) 20:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. This issue is bigger than just current article. Somebody created an individual page for nearly every cricketer who are in the List of Otago representative cricketers. It is very doubtful that all of them would pass WP:GNG or WP:BIO, examples are Greg Aim, Harold Cameron, and these are just random pages that I picked.
- Altogether this violates the core principle of
WP:NOTDATABASE. Does it mean that half of the articles in that list must be considered for deletion?
MitYehor (
talk) 21:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I looked through a few of the articles in the list, and it seems you're quite right. I wouldn't be surprised if well over half of them should be deleted. –
Popo Dameron
talk 23:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- You mean like this article? The problem with these is that you can't be sure, without actually searching and doing the whole BEFORE thing whether or not there are sources and how good they are. There's often lots on New Zealanders and a surprising number show up in a range of sources. To just look at the articles in their current state and determine, without that, that loads are non-notable tricky. Some will be - which is wy there are some redirects to the list already. But it takes time to work through and search for sources properly. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I looked through a few of the articles in the list, and it seems you're quite right. I wouldn't be surprised if well over half of them should be deleted. –
Popo Dameron
talk 23:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the list of Otago cricketers, which is a long-established ATD in cases where further biographical details can't be found easily. He certainly worked as a teacher - I have him working in an Intermediate school in Dunedin in 2014 and other sources suggest this as well. There are passing mentions and, probably, a photo in the Otago Daily Times and others, but the sources we'd need to use to build any biography of him aren't available online and it would need an archive search of the paper records (in Dunedin probably) to find anything more - although the chances are that there is more that could be found and as a subject there is the potential for notability here if anyone ever gets to those sources and/or they are eventually digitised. In order to preserve the page history and attribution it would be best, as is the long-established consensus and per the policy ATD to redirect here. Blue Square Thing ( talk) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the list of Otago cricketers. He moved from Tokomairiro High School to be principal of Waitahuna School at the beginning of 2022 [1]; nothing notable about that. Paora ( talk) 11:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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