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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR – Juliancolton | Talk 03:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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The only source that might count towards WP:GNG is the Elle one, but that is an interview. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 22:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment I really wish people would acclimate themselves with reliable fashion sources (e.g. Business of Fashion and WWD). Trillfendi ( talk) 23:16, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - She's the CEO of a very well known company. Her article does need some work, though. She's on boards at UNICEF and Wharton (prestigious business school), she was featured in an article in [ Elle], interviewed about Barney's in [ the WSJ], and is [ starting to make waves for selling cannabis accessories through Barney's (WSJ)] and here [ New York Times Orville1974 ( talk) 23:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I think the article needs some work with citing sources but as CEO fo Barneys for 2 years now I would bet the sources are out there and whoever published the article just hasn't done the work to find them. I would say this would likely be a keeper if the author did the work to find more sources. I did a simple google search and came up with plenty of other sources in the first 20 results. Also WWD is definitely a citable and reliable source, likely more so than even Elle in this subject matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceAdvisor ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Sorry about that.. I do usually sign my comments.. must have been an oversight. ScienceAdvisor ( talk) 01:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- DELETE or merge/redirect into company page
- WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE specifies the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are notable, not those of smaller companies. They are often merged into their company, with their bio redirected there. You may not have noticed but their prior CEO does not have a page, and well… nobody noticed.
- My initial reaction after reading through the first two pages of google results and all of the cited references (NB I couldn't read the subscription-required pieces), is that because she hasn't received significant or in-depth coverage, there isn't enough material to write a biography page, so the subject fails WP:SIGCOV.
- WP:CORPDEPTH It's worth reading 'Significant Coverage' along with the examples of trivial and significant coverage below it. Trade publications often have complicated relationships with corporate entities.
- Charitable work or board memberships don't qualify for notability. I note that Bloomberg's profile of her hasn't been updated since she was promoted. That's not an indicator of notability.
- The article as it is currently written has the problem common to this type of case, while there are numerous articles out there, most fall into the category of blandly supporting the subject, press releases, CV data, etc… and consequently, there isn't anything to write about the subject. And what do we have on this page? A CV and some charitable work. If there isn't anything else to write about her then the page should be deleted or merged/redirected into the company.
- The other issue is that a lot of what is written is actually about her company and her former boss. On the company page, she's really a footnote, with only two dry mentions. So I don't see her meeting WP:BASIC or even WP:ANYBIO at this point (and reading [7] in this category is also worthwhile). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mothman ( talk • contribs) 04:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep some semi-notable positions and awards. The Board seat on Unicef is borderline. With NY Times, may be just barely enough sourcing. Lubbad85 ( ☎) 17:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR – Juliancolton | Talk 03:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Daniella Vitale
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The only source that might count towards WP:GNG is the Elle one, but that is an interview. Promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 22:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment I really wish people would acclimate themselves with reliable fashion sources (e.g. Business of Fashion and WWD). Trillfendi ( talk) 23:16, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - She's the CEO of a very well known company. Her article does need some work, though. She's on boards at UNICEF and Wharton (prestigious business school), she was featured in an article in [ Elle], interviewed about Barney's in [ the WSJ], and is [ starting to make waves for selling cannabis accessories through Barney's (WSJ)] and here [ New York Times Orville1974 ( talk) 23:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I think the article needs some work with citing sources but as CEO fo Barneys for 2 years now I would bet the sources are out there and whoever published the article just hasn't done the work to find them. I would say this would likely be a keeper if the author did the work to find more sources. I did a simple google search and came up with plenty of other sources in the first 20 results. Also WWD is definitely a citable and reliable source, likely more so than even Elle in this subject matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScienceAdvisor ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Sorry about that.. I do usually sign my comments.. must have been an oversight. ScienceAdvisor ( talk) 01:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- DELETE or merge/redirect into company page
- WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE specifies the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are notable, not those of smaller companies. They are often merged into their company, with their bio redirected there. You may not have noticed but their prior CEO does not have a page, and well… nobody noticed.
- My initial reaction after reading through the first two pages of google results and all of the cited references (NB I couldn't read the subscription-required pieces), is that because she hasn't received significant or in-depth coverage, there isn't enough material to write a biography page, so the subject fails WP:SIGCOV.
- WP:CORPDEPTH It's worth reading 'Significant Coverage' along with the examples of trivial and significant coverage below it. Trade publications often have complicated relationships with corporate entities.
- Charitable work or board memberships don't qualify for notability. I note that Bloomberg's profile of her hasn't been updated since she was promoted. That's not an indicator of notability.
- The article as it is currently written has the problem common to this type of case, while there are numerous articles out there, most fall into the category of blandly supporting the subject, press releases, CV data, etc… and consequently, there isn't anything to write about the subject. And what do we have on this page? A CV and some charitable work. If there isn't anything else to write about her then the page should be deleted or merged/redirected into the company.
- The other issue is that a lot of what is written is actually about her company and her former boss. On the company page, she's really a footnote, with only two dry mentions. So I don't see her meeting WP:BASIC or even WP:ANYBIO at this point (and reading [7] in this category is also worthwhile). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mothman ( talk • contribs) 04:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Keep some semi-notable positions and awards. The Board seat on Unicef is borderline. With NY Times, may be just barely enough sourcing. Lubbad85 ( ☎) 17:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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