The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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This article has insufficient references to support the biography of a (likely) living person. A
WP:BEFORE search turned up another statistical database entry
[1], but no other coverage that would provide basic biographical details, including first name or year of birth.
Rhadow (
talk) 13:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Rhadow (
talk) 13:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete as there are rarely any solid coverage provided on Google that I can find. Hence, for the pitiful state of its references, I endorse the deletion.
Ernestchuajiasheng (
talk) 16:06, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete- another less-than-minimal biography of a presumably living person sourced only to statistical entries. It's not even enough coverage to establish this person's full name.
ReykYO! 18:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Appears to fail NCRIC.
South Nashua (
talk) 19:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: Sometime back I came across another similar article (
Digvijay (Kerala cricketer)) created by the same editor, but had no means to verify if it passed criteria 1 (domestic) of
WP:CRIN. Also had no access to the reference mentioned, and search results did not turn up anything.
MT TrainDiscuss 19:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - I can find nothing to show notability for this person beyond their one appearance in a cricket match. The source provided is a database entry rather than a substantive source. We don't have a forename, date of birth etc... - in those circumstances (and after careful searching for sources) I don't believe that we'll be in a position to verify anything about the person beyond what we currently have at any point in the foreseeable future. If we can't add substantive sources then there's a clear failure of the GNG and several RfC (such as
this one) have made it clear that sports notability criteria only provide a presumption of notability if there is a hope that the GNG will ever be met. The close of the recent
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D. Kodikara certainly seems to support such a position as well. In addition this is (probably) a BLP. In these circumstances I'm even more wary about keeping the article without sourcing beyond minimally detailed database entries.
Blue Square Thing (
talk) 21:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete It is high time we ended the absurd notability guidelines for cricket players. Why is someone like
Eric J. Dursteller lacking an article because the multiple references are not in-line citations when he has published multiple books, some in multiple langauges, with academic publishers, but someone thinks that it is at all possibly playing in one game could make someone notable? Especially when we do not even know the individuals first name.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 04:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This article has insufficient references to support the biography of a (likely) living person. A
WP:BEFORE search turned up another statistical database entry
[1], but no other coverage that would provide basic biographical details, including first name or year of birth.
Rhadow (
talk) 13:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Rhadow (
talk) 13:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete as there are rarely any solid coverage provided on Google that I can find. Hence, for the pitiful state of its references, I endorse the deletion.
Ernestchuajiasheng (
talk) 16:06, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete- another less-than-minimal biography of a presumably living person sourced only to statistical entries. It's not even enough coverage to establish this person's full name.
ReykYO! 18:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete Appears to fail NCRIC.
South Nashua (
talk) 19:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: Sometime back I came across another similar article (
Digvijay (Kerala cricketer)) created by the same editor, but had no means to verify if it passed criteria 1 (domestic) of
WP:CRIN. Also had no access to the reference mentioned, and search results did not turn up anything.
MT TrainDiscuss 19:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete - I can find nothing to show notability for this person beyond their one appearance in a cricket match. The source provided is a database entry rather than a substantive source. We don't have a forename, date of birth etc... - in those circumstances (and after careful searching for sources) I don't believe that we'll be in a position to verify anything about the person beyond what we currently have at any point in the foreseeable future. If we can't add substantive sources then there's a clear failure of the GNG and several RfC (such as
this one) have made it clear that sports notability criteria only provide a presumption of notability if there is a hope that the GNG will ever be met. The close of the recent
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D. Kodikara certainly seems to support such a position as well. In addition this is (probably) a BLP. In these circumstances I'm even more wary about keeping the article without sourcing beyond minimally detailed database entries.
Blue Square Thing (
talk) 21:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete It is high time we ended the absurd notability guidelines for cricket players. Why is someone like
Eric J. Dursteller lacking an article because the multiple references are not in-line citations when he has published multiple books, some in multiple langauges, with academic publishers, but someone thinks that it is at all possibly playing in one game could make someone notable? Especially when we do not even know the individuals first name.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 04:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)reply
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