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The result was merge‎ to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. ♠ PMC(talk) 19:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel)

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. This source [1] is a bit useful for addition, but isn't a sigcov at all. Per WP:BEFORE, only this source could be useful [2], but nothing else. What we have sources now at the reception were just the reviews of the film itself and listicles/rankings only. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 22:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: Reviews of " Masquerade", the Angel Dust-centric fourth episode, and the B-plot of " Welcome to Heaven", the sixth episode, delve into the characterisation of the character and voice actor performance, passing WP:SIGCOV. 2001:BB6:3A30:D700:5195:FE6F:1E81:6F85 ( talk) 23:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, not really. The reviews are for the episodes themselves, and as far as my Google search goes, none go into detail on the character. Per WP:LOTSOFSOURCES: Notability requires the presence of significant treatment of a subject in reliable independent sources, not just the mere presence of the searched-for term. Also, per WP:FICT: Specifically, fictional elements are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage in independent secondary sources about the fictional element. This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Spinixster (chat!) 01:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yeah, it's a case of something like Porygon lacking an article despite Dennō Senshi Porygon having an article. Having episodes dedicated to a character can help, but there needs to be actual coverage on the element outside of whatever they're associated with. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 03:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support as per WP:TOOSOON Maybe this character will be important for independent coverage in the future, but not now. Samoht27 ( talk) 07:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support would be to redirect/move the page back into draftspace/merge the reception into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters, right? I agree this character should receive a page at one point, but maybe later in the year/next year when there is just a little bit more coverage. 2001:BB6:3A30:D700:55D1:AA1:430B:8A45 ( talk) 19:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I do believe that this character will likely have coverage in the future, so to merge into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters would be optimal. Samoht27 ( talk) 16:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. Most of the sources are primary sources, Decider is unreliable, and the rest I can’t really find on WP:RSP Brachy08 (Talk) 10:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. Most sources include passing mention and no in-depth coverage specifically on the character. The information, however, could definitely be worked into the list. Maybe some time in the future, the continued popularity of this character could warrant an article, but it is simply WP:TOOSOON to include one with so little coverage. ~ GoatLordServant( Talk) 17:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. There are not enough sites, besides Decider, that cover the character specifically. -- Turtletennisfogwheat ( talk) 08:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. ♠ PMC(talk) 19:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel)

Angel Dust (Hazbin Hotel) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Fails WP:SIGCOV. This source [1] is a bit useful for addition, but isn't a sigcov at all. Per WP:BEFORE, only this source could be useful [2], but nothing else. What we have sources now at the reception were just the reviews of the film itself and listicles/rankings only. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 22:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment: Reviews of " Masquerade", the Angel Dust-centric fourth episode, and the B-plot of " Welcome to Heaven", the sixth episode, delve into the characterisation of the character and voice actor performance, passing WP:SIGCOV. 2001:BB6:3A30:D700:5195:FE6F:1E81:6F85 ( talk) 23:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Well, not really. The reviews are for the episodes themselves, and as far as my Google search goes, none go into detail on the character. Per WP:LOTSOFSOURCES: Notability requires the presence of significant treatment of a subject in reliable independent sources, not just the mere presence of the searched-for term. Also, per WP:FICT: Specifically, fictional elements are presumed to be notable if there is significant coverage in independent secondary sources about the fictional element. This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Spinixster (chat!) 01:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yeah, it's a case of something like Porygon lacking an article despite Dennō Senshi Porygon having an article. Having episodes dedicated to a character can help, but there needs to be actual coverage on the element outside of whatever they're associated with. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 ( talk) 03:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support as per WP:TOOSOON Maybe this character will be important for independent coverage in the future, but not now. Samoht27 ( talk) 07:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Support would be to redirect/move the page back into draftspace/merge the reception into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters, right? I agree this character should receive a page at one point, but maybe later in the year/next year when there is just a little bit more coverage. 2001:BB6:3A30:D700:55D1:AA1:430B:8A45 ( talk) 19:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Yes, I do believe that this character will likely have coverage in the future, so to merge into List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters would be optimal. Samoht27 ( talk) 16:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. Most of the sources are primary sources, Decider is unreliable, and the rest I can’t really find on WP:RSP Brachy08 (Talk) 10:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. Most sources include passing mention and no in-depth coverage specifically on the character. The information, however, could definitely be worked into the list. Maybe some time in the future, the continued popularity of this character could warrant an article, but it is simply WP:TOOSOON to include one with so little coverage. ~ GoatLordServant( Talk) 17:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to List of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss characters. There are not enough sites, besides Decider, that cover the character specifically. -- Turtletennisfogwheat ( talk) 08:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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