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The result was Speedy delete per G5 - created by blocked user. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Ali Mahmoud Al Suleiman
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Claim to fame is translator; I'm not convinced that there is WP:SIGCOV here for notability. There is this article in the Daily Sabah; no authorship given, which makes it difficult to ascertain if it's a "contributor" piece, and the rest of the references appear to be derived from that article or are primary references (i.e., listing the individual's credits). I came across this looking at the edits of an editor who'd resurrected several articles created by banned socks. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Hello , This writer and translator is well known in Turkey and the Arab world This discussion took place between me and a Turkish editor and admins of this wiki User:LadyofShalott User:BD2412 All sources were reliable I do not charge any money I love working on Wikipedia without any fees,If this article was promotional, as you say, it would not be accepted by 2 admin on this wiki
On the contrary, it was edited and modified, and it became an article Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- I feel that this is likely a notable subject if the claims are valid on their face, but that the article would benefit from review by an experienced editor who reads Arabic. User:Irtapil is recently active, perhaps they can have a look? BD2412 T 18:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment When we searching about his name in Google News
"Ali Al Suleiman" We can see the news in English and Turkish news In the first search results also Yes, all my claims are correct,You evaluated Turkish sources with the other admin
- I think this is a notability topic in Turkish, Arabic and English sources,As for the Arab sources
- It is from news channel Orient News
and Shehab News Agency and Turkish Newspaper Daily Sabah and Arageek Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:31, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you are going to participate in these conversations, you need to learn to indent your posts properly. Otherwise, experienced editors are unlikely to take you very seriously. BD2412 T 18:49, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank You User:BD2412
Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:58, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. On the basis of the claims in the article itself I’d say notability was borderline, and I was surprised to see so many sources. The thing is, a lot of them are just PR. Many of the Turkish refs are verbatim identical and this person clearly has people working on his profile for him. I’ll admit that once I saw this I lost interest in ploughing on through the rest of them. Mccapra ( talk) 20:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment this page popped up from a spam check I run for a particular source. [1] The particular site has been used by the person trying to push this article. See the contributions for Alex_bonson90 who's been globally locked. All of their edits are to push this person. I smell block evasion. Ravensfire ( talk) 21:20, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Yes, I think you're right about the sockpuppetry; compare this and this. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:33, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was Speedy delete per G5 - created by blocked user. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Ali Mahmoud Al Suleiman
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Claim to fame is translator; I'm not convinced that there is WP:SIGCOV here for notability. There is this article in the Daily Sabah; no authorship given, which makes it difficult to ascertain if it's a "contributor" piece, and the rest of the references appear to be derived from that article or are primary references (i.e., listing the individual's credits). I came across this looking at the edits of an editor who'd resurrected several articles created by banned socks. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Hello , This writer and translator is well known in Turkey and the Arab world This discussion took place between me and a Turkish editor and admins of this wiki User:LadyofShalott User:BD2412 All sources were reliable I do not charge any money I love working on Wikipedia without any fees,If this article was promotional, as you say, it would not be accepted by 2 admin on this wiki
On the contrary, it was edited and modified, and it became an article Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- I feel that this is likely a notable subject if the claims are valid on their face, but that the article would benefit from review by an experienced editor who reads Arabic. User:Irtapil is recently active, perhaps they can have a look? BD2412 T 18:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment When we searching about his name in Google News
"Ali Al Suleiman" We can see the news in English and Turkish news In the first search results also Yes, all my claims are correct,You evaluated Turkish sources with the other admin
- I think this is a notability topic in Turkish, Arabic and English sources,As for the Arab sources
- It is from news channel Orient News
and Shehab News Agency and Turkish Newspaper Daily Sabah and Arageek Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:31, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- If you are going to participate in these conversations, you need to learn to indent your posts properly. Otherwise, experienced editors are unlikely to take you very seriously. BD2412 T 18:49, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank You User:BD2412
Mevlut Bin Omar ( talk) 18:58, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. On the basis of the claims in the article itself I’d say notability was borderline, and I was surprised to see so many sources. The thing is, a lot of them are just PR. Many of the Turkish refs are verbatim identical and this person clearly has people working on his profile for him. I’ll admit that once I saw this I lost interest in ploughing on through the rest of them. Mccapra ( talk) 20:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment this page popped up from a spam check I run for a particular source. [1] The particular site has been used by the person trying to push this article. See the contributions for Alex_bonson90 who's been globally locked. All of their edits are to push this person. I smell block evasion. Ravensfire ( talk) 21:20, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Yes, I think you're right about the sockpuppetry; compare this and this. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:33, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.