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The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 19:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Accountability partner
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A term for an anti-porn chaperone, particularly among some American Christians, apparently. This is clearly a thing that exists, but it's not clear that it is a notable thing (
WP:GNG), and there's not much more here than a
WP:DICDEF. The sources cited are weak and mostly unreliable. A search found several mentions of the concept, particularly in connection to
accountability software, but nothing substantial enough for an article. A redirect to
accountability software would probably not help because the term seems also to be in use for things unrelated to porn avoidance, such as fitness training.
Sandstein 17:50, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Withdrawn. The improvements show that it is possible to write a serious, well-sourced article about the topic. Thanks! Sandstein 16:00, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Sandstein 17:50, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Just doing a quick google search shows a good amount of articles which mention this. But as per the nom, it's mostly mentioned in relation to accountability software. I don't think it passes WP:GNG on its own. Agree that there's not much more than a WP:DICTIONARY. GoldMiner24 Talk 18:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Expand A
Google scholar search has about 3000 hits. This should be fertile ground for expanding the article with peer reviewed publications on the subject.--
Nowa (
talk) 20:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- The article has been in the same poor state since you created it in 2009. If expansion were possible, it would have been done. Calling for others to expand your article is facile; doing it is the challenging part. The Google Scholar search only shows that the topic is mentioned, not that it receives the sort of substantial coverage to meet GNG. You'd need to cite specific sources to show that. The search also indicates very different understandings of the term: an "accountability partner" is suggested as a mechanism for quality control in medicine, psychology, social work, etc. That is also an indication that there may not be a coherent topic to describe under this title. Sandstein 06:04, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's a good point that there are very different understandings of the term in different fields. I've built upon 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 addition to further expand the scope of the article to include these other fields.-- Nowa ( talk) 16:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
If expansion were possible, it would have been done.
is an untrue statement. I wish it were true, but unfortunately Wikipedia is full of work that needs to have been done for years to decades now. Jclemens ( talk) 18:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and expand per Nowa. Plenty of sources exist and could be used to improve this article. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 05:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This has become a mainstream concept. See usage in the Washington Post
[1], NY Times
[2]
[3]
[4], Harvard Business Review
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8], The Times of India
[9].
Jahaza (
talk) 02:27, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Completely agree. I was just looking for information on this topic in the context of work and establishing habits as discussed at Indeed [10] and Lifehack [11]. I was very surprised to see this article marked for deletion. +1 that it has indeed become a mainstream concept. Nancl ( talk) 15:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This is not merely a dictionary term but, as @ Jahaza correctly states, has now become a mainstream concept especially among younger Christians today.
- — That Coptic Guy ( talk) 01:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - A notable concept in Christian culture and becoming increasingly mainstream. I have tidied up the article a little, removing some poor/unreliable sources and adding in most of what Jahaza found. There's a decent amount on secular uses of the term but the specifically Christian context needs a bit more work. As a start, I found this published in Gender & Society which seems to discuss the concept in some detail - I'll have a look at that at some point soon and see if I can expand it further. WJ94 ( talk) 11:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 19:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Accountability partner
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A term for an anti-porn chaperone, particularly among some American Christians, apparently. This is clearly a thing that exists, but it's not clear that it is a notable thing (
WP:GNG), and there's not much more here than a
WP:DICDEF. The sources cited are weak and mostly unreliable. A search found several mentions of the concept, particularly in connection to
accountability software, but nothing substantial enough for an article. A redirect to
accountability software would probably not help because the term seems also to be in use for things unrelated to porn avoidance, such as fitness training.
Sandstein 17:50, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Withdrawn. The improvements show that it is possible to write a serious, well-sourced article about the topic. Thanks! Sandstein 16:00, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Sandstein 17:50, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Just doing a quick google search shows a good amount of articles which mention this. But as per the nom, it's mostly mentioned in relation to accountability software. I don't think it passes WP:GNG on its own. Agree that there's not much more than a WP:DICTIONARY. GoldMiner24 Talk 18:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Expand A
Google scholar search has about 3000 hits. This should be fertile ground for expanding the article with peer reviewed publications on the subject.--
Nowa (
talk) 20:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- The article has been in the same poor state since you created it in 2009. If expansion were possible, it would have been done. Calling for others to expand your article is facile; doing it is the challenging part. The Google Scholar search only shows that the topic is mentioned, not that it receives the sort of substantial coverage to meet GNG. You'd need to cite specific sources to show that. The search also indicates very different understandings of the term: an "accountability partner" is suggested as a mechanism for quality control in medicine, psychology, social work, etc. That is also an indication that there may not be a coherent topic to describe under this title. Sandstein 06:04, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's a good point that there are very different understandings of the term in different fields. I've built upon 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 addition to further expand the scope of the article to include these other fields.-- Nowa ( talk) 16:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
If expansion were possible, it would have been done.
is an untrue statement. I wish it were true, but unfortunately Wikipedia is full of work that needs to have been done for years to decades now. Jclemens ( talk) 18:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and expand per Nowa. Plenty of sources exist and could be used to improve this article. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 ( talk) 05:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This has become a mainstream concept. See usage in the Washington Post
[1], NY Times
[2]
[3]
[4], Harvard Business Review
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8], The Times of India
[9].
Jahaza (
talk) 02:27, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Completely agree. I was just looking for information on this topic in the context of work and establishing habits as discussed at Indeed [10] and Lifehack [11]. I was very surprised to see this article marked for deletion. +1 that it has indeed become a mainstream concept. Nancl ( talk) 15:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This is not merely a dictionary term but, as @ Jahaza correctly states, has now become a mainstream concept especially among younger Christians today.
- — That Coptic Guy ( talk) 01:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - A notable concept in Christian culture and becoming increasingly mainstream. I have tidied up the article a little, removing some poor/unreliable sources and adding in most of what Jahaza found. There's a decent amount on secular uses of the term but the specifically Christian context needs a bit more work. As a start, I found this published in Gender & Society which seems to discuss the concept in some detail - I'll have a look at that at some point soon and see if I can expand it further. WJ94 ( talk) 11:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.