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The result was keep. Closing per WP:SNOW. "Speedy incubate" is possibly an option, but the keeps are quite overwhelming here. Drmies ( talk) 23:19, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
2014 Khairpur bus crash
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as much as this event is tragic, article was created on the same day and is a classic case of WP:NOTNEWS. LibStar ( talk) 17:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 17:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep 56 deaths, plenty of coverage. If this happened in London or New York, it would be ITN material. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Not much has changed, it seems, with regards to the users who hate any new event having an article. It is far too early to pull the NOTNEWS article out, and we're talking about an incident that resulted in 56 deaths. That factoid on its own is generally considered enough for notability. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Bloomberg coverage in the article already asserts it is the worst road accident in Pakistan for a year, so it is not merely any accident. There is New York Daily News mention, other. It would be nice to know what is some standard for notability of accidents to get articles included into Category:Bus accidents in Pakistan (and similar other categories for other countries), but this one accident seems individually notable. A good alternative, however, would be to create List of Pakistani bus accidents and to include this as one item in it. That could be done separately from this AFD, however, and the article could be merged and redirected by any editor without need for another AFD, just as part of regular editing. -- do ncr am 23:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as received worldwide coverage, Passes GNG. – Davey2010 • (talk) 02:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Incubate for two weeks Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and wp:notability requires that the topic has received attention from the world at large over a period of time. There is no urgency to claim that this topic should be covered as a part of history. Unscintillating ( talk) 02:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- That's not a remotely policy based !vote. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NOTNEWSPAPER is a policy, and I've added a Wikilink to the !vote to this effect. Unscintillating ( talk) 00:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. 56 deaths is notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:19, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - An incredible amount of coverage satisfying WP:GNG and to suggest an incident with 56 deaths won't be "enduring" as WP:NOTNEWS indicates is simply willful ignorance. The primary examples of non-notable topics WP:NOTNEWS states are " routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities" which of course this topic is nothing of a sort. A classic example of WP:NOTNEWS being misapplied. -- Oakshade ( talk) 21:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep recurring sources. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 08:45, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Closing per WP:SNOW. "Speedy incubate" is possibly an option, but the keeps are quite overwhelming here. Drmies ( talk) 23:19, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
2014 Khairpur bus crash
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as much as this event is tragic, article was created on the same day and is a classic case of WP:NOTNEWS. LibStar ( talk) 17:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 17:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 17:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 17:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep 56 deaths, plenty of coverage. If this happened in London or New York, it would be ITN material. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:57, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Not much has changed, it seems, with regards to the users who hate any new event having an article. It is far too early to pull the NOTNEWS article out, and we're talking about an incident that resulted in 56 deaths. That factoid on its own is generally considered enough for notability. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Bloomberg coverage in the article already asserts it is the worst road accident in Pakistan for a year, so it is not merely any accident. There is New York Daily News mention, other. It would be nice to know what is some standard for notability of accidents to get articles included into Category:Bus accidents in Pakistan (and similar other categories for other countries), but this one accident seems individually notable. A good alternative, however, would be to create List of Pakistani bus accidents and to include this as one item in it. That could be done separately from this AFD, however, and the article could be merged and redirected by any editor without need for another AFD, just as part of regular editing. -- do ncr am 23:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep as received worldwide coverage, Passes GNG. – Davey2010 • (talk) 02:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy Incubate for two weeks Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and wp:notability requires that the topic has received attention from the world at large over a period of time. There is no urgency to claim that this topic should be covered as a part of history. Unscintillating ( talk) 02:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- That's not a remotely policy based !vote. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NOTNEWSPAPER is a policy, and I've added a Wikilink to the !vote to this effect. Unscintillating ( talk) 00:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. 56 deaths is notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:19, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - An incredible amount of coverage satisfying WP:GNG and to suggest an incident with 56 deaths won't be "enduring" as WP:NOTNEWS indicates is simply willful ignorance. The primary examples of non-notable topics WP:NOTNEWS states are " routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities" which of course this topic is nothing of a sort. A classic example of WP:NOTNEWS being misapplied. -- Oakshade ( talk) 21:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep recurring sources. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 08:45, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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