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This article does not meet any notability standards. The most notable thing about him is that he is the father of two players, but this is Wikipedia, not WikiTree. That he managed a high school team may get him some mentions in newspaper articles, but where those don't relate to his more famous sons, they are "local newspapers", which also don't make him notable. The rest is best handled on his sons' pages.
Renerpho (
talk) 22:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. The restriction on local newspapers as a source of notability applies only in the case of companies, not sportspeople. Eastmain (
talk •
contribs) 23:49, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
GiantSnowman 10:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment by nominator@
GiantSnowman: There is no lack of "sources",
[1] they just don't make him a notable subject. But yes, if sources are found that actually do that, I'd like to know as well.
Renerpho (
talk) 10:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
See the article history for what of that has been in the article in the past, as material has been removed for reasons like
WP:BLP,
[2][3] or due to being incomprehensible (thanks for finally cleaning up
this mess).
Renerpho (
talk) 10:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't say there are no sources.
GiantSnowman 11:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Neither did I. :) Maybe someone else will be interested in that list.
Renerpho (
talk) 11:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Das osmnezz: GiantSnowman probably was aware of those, as they and I discussed them here previously. The article
[8] is about him leading his High School team to victory. That's hardly significant.
[9] and
[10] definitely would be significant, if anything had ever come of those ideas. Someone's grandiose plans to take over Jamaican football, even if announced in local newspapers, amount to little if none of them ever come true. The only notable thing that Craig Butler has done was being the adoptive father of
Leon Bailey.
Renerpho (
talk) 23:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
By the way, the article has been improved greatly over the past couple of days. Compare what it looked like a week ago.
[11] Once you remove the fluff and the
WP:BLP issues,
[12] not much remains.
Renerpho (
talk) 23:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Butler is clearly a significant figure in Jamaican football, as shown by the amount of coverage he receives in Jamaican media... Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk) 06:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per sources above which show notability.
GiantSnowman 17:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)reply
This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Jamaica. It is one of many
deletion lists coordinated by
WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.
Adding a new AfD discussion
Adding an AfD to this page does not add it to the main page at
WP:AFD. Similarly, removing an AfD from this page does not remove it from the main page at
WP:AFD. If you want to nominate an article for deletion, go through the process on that page before adding it to this page. To add a discussion to this page, follow these steps:
Edit this page and add {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} to the top of the list. Replace "PageName" with the relevant article name, i.e. the one on the existing AFD discussion. Also, indicate the title of the article in the edit summary as it is particularly helpful to add a link to the article in the edit summary. When you save the page, the discussion will automatically appear.
You should also tag the AfD by adding {{subst:delsort|Jamaica|~~~~}} to it, which will inform editors that it has been listed here. You may place this tag above or below the nomination statement or at the end of the discussion thread.
Closed AfD discussions are automatically removed by
a bot.
Other types of discussions
You can also add and remove other discussions (
prod,
CfD,
TfD etc.) related to Jamaica. For the other XfD's, the process is the same as AfD (except {{Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName}} is used for MFD and {{transclude xfd}} for the rest). For PRODs, adding a link with {{prodded}} will suffice.
Further information
For further information see Wikipedia's
deletion policy and
WP:AfD for general information about Articles for Deletion, including a list of article deletions sorted by day of nomination.
Archived discussions (starting from September 2007) may be found at:
This article does not meet any notability standards. The most notable thing about him is that he is the father of two players, but this is Wikipedia, not WikiTree. That he managed a high school team may get him some mentions in newspaper articles, but where those don't relate to his more famous sons, they are "local newspapers", which also don't make him notable. The rest is best handled on his sons' pages.
Renerpho (
talk) 22:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment. The restriction on local newspapers as a source of notability applies only in the case of companies, not sportspeople. Eastmain (
talk •
contribs) 23:49, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me.
GiantSnowman 10:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment by nominator@
GiantSnowman: There is no lack of "sources",
[1] they just don't make him a notable subject. But yes, if sources are found that actually do that, I'd like to know as well.
Renerpho (
talk) 10:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
See the article history for what of that has been in the article in the past, as material has been removed for reasons like
WP:BLP,
[2][3] or due to being incomprehensible (thanks for finally cleaning up
this mess).
Renerpho (
talk) 10:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't say there are no sources.
GiantSnowman 11:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Neither did I. :) Maybe someone else will be interested in that list.
Renerpho (
talk) 11:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Das osmnezz: GiantSnowman probably was aware of those, as they and I discussed them here previously. The article
[8] is about him leading his High School team to victory. That's hardly significant.
[9] and
[10] definitely would be significant, if anything had ever come of those ideas. Someone's grandiose plans to take over Jamaican football, even if announced in local newspapers, amount to little if none of them ever come true. The only notable thing that Craig Butler has done was being the adoptive father of
Leon Bailey.
Renerpho (
talk) 23:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
By the way, the article has been improved greatly over the past couple of days. Compare what it looked like a week ago.
[11] Once you remove the fluff and the
WP:BLP issues,
[12] not much remains.
Renerpho (
talk) 23:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Butler is clearly a significant figure in Jamaican football, as shown by the amount of coverage he receives in Jamaican media... Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk) 06:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep per sources above which show notability.
GiantSnowman 17:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)reply