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Erigo
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The company lacks sufficient reliable sources; not notable organization Jibbrr tybr ( talk) 15:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
delete: not notable, delete per WP:SIGCOV (nothing official pops up on google for the first few pages) Noelle!!! ( summon a demon or read smth) 16:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete: I couldn't find any reliable sources about this company. Rela tivity ⚡️ 18:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Fashion, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I think that this page is very short and needs to be expanded. There is actually a sufficient number of third-party sources regarding to this brand, such as:
Archi & Meidy
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Did not find any sources behind this series to establish notability. GamerPro64 02:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge/Redirect to Yohanes Surya. Traumnovelle ( talk) 02:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
UHO MZF F.C.
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. Coverage and sourcing is just They exist" and champions of two cups of some type. North8000 ( talk) 23:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Football, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The combined sources already in the article, and including the additional source in the Bahasa article, are exactly the sort of GNG-passing coverage I would expect of a lower division football team. SportingFlyer T· C 18:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like saying that it can't meet the actual GNG (and so IMO is not wp:notable) and so we need a different GNG to make sure that non-notable lower division football teams get in. North8000 (
talk) 21:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not happy at the way you've completely mis-represented my keep !vote. The article easily passes GNG. SportingFlyer T· C 23:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ SportingFlyer: I posted in a way that highlighted what I felt to be issues with your argument. In hindsight, viewing it from another angle, such is a "spun negative" description of your post. I did not intend to do something like that. Please accept my apologies for that. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 00:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like saying that it can't meet the actual GNG (and so IMO is not wp:notable) and so we need a different GNG to make sure that non-notable lower division football teams get in. North8000 (
talk) 21:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 16:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per SF. Giant Snowman 16:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The sources in the article only cover the game results, not the subject itself. As a team playing in the lowest division of football, its notability is limited to its region and it's relatively unknown on a national level. IMO, it doesn't meet the GNG. Ckfasdf ( talk) 19:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's not true. These are not match reports, but rather articles about how the team won the championship, failed in the round of 16, et cetera, and football club notability is not based on whether they're important regionally, internationally, et cetera. They are also covered on an ongoing basis by the newspaper in their local area including sources not currently linked in the article, such as
[1]: this is about the competition but the club is clearly the subject of the article.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 23:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is a routine coverage. According to
WP:SPORTCRIT;
Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage
. None of reference in the article provide reports beyond routine coverage, such as information about the team itself. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is a routine coverage. According to
WP:SPORTCRIT;
- That's not true. These are not match reports, but rather articles about how the team won the championship, failed in the round of 16, et cetera, and football club notability is not based on whether they're important regionally, internationally, et cetera. They are also covered on an ongoing basis by the newspaper in their local area including sources not currently linked in the article, such as
[1]: this is about the competition but the club is clearly the subject of the article.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 23:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. I see an agreement that there is sufficient coverage in sources. (non-admin closure) Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 22:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Freya Jayawardana
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this subject doesn't meet WP:GNG criteria and can't stand-alone ( WP:NLIST) as a musician ( WP:MUSIC and WP:BANDMEMBER). May this subject have to be redirect to List of JKT48 members page. Ariandi Lie Let's talk 17:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, Women, Dance, Internet, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. She may not be as famous like a Hollywood celebrity. However, she is one of the notable members of JKT48. WJetChao ( talk) 19:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 21:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: coverage (IDN Media, Kompas) seems to show she's notable enough. A redirect to the list the nominator mentioned may also be considered indeed. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 20:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The discussion published by the media is only non-trivial and not related to what is being discussed in the article. Ariandi Lie Let's talk 07:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of JKT48 members. Most, if not all, sources in the article refer to her status as a member of JKT48. Ckfasdf ( talk) 00:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The sources are on her specifically and not JKT48 in general. WC gudang inspirasi ( Read! Talk!) 15:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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| Points of interest related to
Indonesia on Wikipedia: Outline – History – Portal – Category – WikiProject – Alerts – Deletions – Stubs – Assessment – To-do |
This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Indonesia. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.
- Adding a new AfD discussion
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- Edit this page and add {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName}} to the top of the list. Replace "PageName" with the relevant article name, i.e. the one on the existing AFD discussion. Also, indicate the title of the article in the edit summary as it is particularly helpful to add a link to the article in the edit summary. When you save the page, the discussion will automatically appear.
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- Removing a closed AfD discussion
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- Further information
- For further information see Wikipedia's deletion policy and WP:AfD for general information about Articles for Deletion, including a list of article deletions sorted by day of nomination.
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Erigo
- Erigo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The company lacks sufficient reliable sources; not notable organization Jibbrr tybr ( talk) 15:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
delete: not notable, delete per WP:SIGCOV (nothing official pops up on google for the first few pages) Noelle!!! ( summon a demon or read smth) 16:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete: I couldn't find any reliable sources about this company. Rela tivity ⚡️ 18:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Fashion, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I think that this page is very short and needs to be expanded. There is actually a sufficient number of third-party sources regarding to this brand, such as:
Archi & Meidy
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Did not find any sources behind this series to establish notability. GamerPro64 02:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Indonesia. GamerPro64 02:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect to Yohanes Surya. Traumnovelle ( talk) 02:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
UHO MZF F.C.
- UHO MZF F.C. ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. Coverage and sourcing is just They exist" and champions of two cups of some type. North8000 ( talk) 23:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Football, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The combined sources already in the article, and including the additional source in the Bahasa article, are exactly the sort of GNG-passing coverage I would expect of a lower division football team. SportingFlyer T· C 18:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like saying that it can't meet the actual GNG (and so IMO is not wp:notable) and so we need a different GNG to make sure that non-notable lower division football teams get in. North8000 (
talk) 21:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not happy at the way you've completely mis-represented my keep !vote. The article easily passes GNG. SportingFlyer T· C 23:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ SportingFlyer: I posted in a way that highlighted what I felt to be issues with your argument. In hindsight, viewing it from another angle, such is a "spun negative" description of your post. I did not intend to do something like that. Please accept my apologies for that. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 00:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like saying that it can't meet the actual GNG (and so IMO is not wp:notable) and so we need a different GNG to make sure that non-notable lower division football teams get in. North8000 (
talk) 21:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 16:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per SF. Giant Snowman 16:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The sources in the article only cover the game results, not the subject itself. As a team playing in the lowest division of football, its notability is limited to its region and it's relatively unknown on a national level. IMO, it doesn't meet the GNG. Ckfasdf ( talk) 19:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's not true. These are not match reports, but rather articles about how the team won the championship, failed in the round of 16, et cetera, and football club notability is not based on whether they're important regionally, internationally, et cetera. They are also covered on an ongoing basis by the newspaper in their local area including sources not currently linked in the article, such as
[1]: this is about the competition but the club is clearly the subject of the article.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 23:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is a routine coverage. According to
WP:SPORTCRIT;
Local sources must be independent of the subject, and must provide reports beyond routine game coverage
. None of reference in the article provide reports beyond routine coverage, such as information about the team itself. Ckfasdf ( talk) 02:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That is a routine coverage. According to
WP:SPORTCRIT;
- That's not true. These are not match reports, but rather articles about how the team won the championship, failed in the round of 16, et cetera, and football club notability is not based on whether they're important regionally, internationally, et cetera. They are also covered on an ongoing basis by the newspaper in their local area including sources not currently linked in the article, such as
[1]: this is about the competition but the club is clearly the subject of the article.
SportingFlyer
T·
C 23:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. I see an agreement that there is sufficient coverage in sources. (non-admin closure) Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 22:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Freya Jayawardana
- Freya Jayawardana ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View AfD | edits since nomination)
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this subject doesn't meet WP:GNG criteria and can't stand-alone ( WP:NLIST) as a musician ( WP:MUSIC and WP:BANDMEMBER). May this subject have to be redirect to List of JKT48 members page. Ariandi Lie Let's talk 17:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Bands and musicians, Women, Dance, Internet, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. She may not be as famous like a Hollywood celebrity. However, she is one of the notable members of JKT48. WJetChao ( talk) 19:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 21:26, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: coverage (IDN Media, Kompas) seems to show she's notable enough. A redirect to the list the nominator mentioned may also be considered indeed. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 20:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- The discussion published by the media is only non-trivial and not related to what is being discussed in the article. Ariandi Lie Let's talk 07:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of JKT48 members. Most, if not all, sources in the article refer to her status as a member of JKT48. Ckfasdf ( talk) 00:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The sources are on her specifically and not JKT48 in general. WC gudang inspirasi ( Read! Talk!) 15:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- Wayang Kampung Sebelah (via WP:PROD on 29 January 2024)