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Request on 03:38:27, 2 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Krishanuthe13th


My article has got rejected saying it reads like an advertisement. I have rewritten it. Can you please let me know if it is fine now? Also, is there any problems with the references I have cited? All of them are from reputed Indian newspapers and publications.

Krishanuthe13th ( talk) 03:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Request on 08:28:23, 2 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Easytiger1981


Hi! I'd like to request your assistance with my submission "Intersog" that was declined twice. The reason is that it reads like advertising. I've edited the article to be more narrative, but it was still declined. I'm new to Wikipedia, can you please suggest areas for improvement in my article? Thanks in advance!

p.s. I checked similar articles about IT companies in Wiki and adjusted mine to their style, but it was still rejected, although I didn't use any promo text in the article and it reads neutral + I did research within my connections and asked them to read the article and say whether it reads like promo and all of them confirmed the article reads neutral, so this is confusing.

Easytiger1981 ( talk) 08:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi Easytiger1981,
There are sections of the draft that are problematic. "Intersog is a pioneer of mobile health technology development" isn't neutral, nor is the heading "Mobile Health Solutions." The unreferenced clients and projects section reads like advertising because it smacks of notability by association. ("Most of Intersog clients are U.S. based SMEs and multinational companies" "start-ups and established brands") Also, I don't think that that being in the Top 5 Mobile App developers in Chicago as determmined by clutch.co is worthy of a section titled "Recognition."
This isn't my area of expertise - I'm only responding to your question about the tone of the article. Another reviewer may be able to help you construct an article on Intersog that will be acceptable. JSFarman ( talk) 20:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your suggestions! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easytiger1981 ( talkcontribs) 08:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

12:15:53, 2 September 2015 review of submission by Kneubeiser


My reviewer said my references weren't notable enough. I'm not sure why as they are the original sources from which the content came -- aka the journal's official website. I also mirrored the page after the format of other similar Wikipedia pages on scientific journals, and they used the same types of references. Examples: /info/en/?search=Aging_Cell /info/en/?search=Cancer_Science

Kneubeiser ( talk) 12:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Many Wikipedia articles exist which do not meet the desirable standards... this is partly because new articles could be created without being reviewed, up until a few years ago. So when using an existing article as a comparison or an example to work from, it would be better to use a recognised Wikipedia Good Article. You can find lists of these recognised Good Articles in the various headings and sub-sections to be found after scrolling down the page at Wikipedia:Good articles. A Draft need not be quite so comprehensive or comprehensively referenced as these to be accepted, but they can help to give an idea of the sort of sources, sourcing, and tone that is required.
It's not the references that are "not notable enough", it is that the references you have provided do not provide sufficient evidence of the notability of the topic. Specifically, the journal's own website is not an independent source about the journal, therefore any references to its own website do not assist in meeting Wikipedia:VRS.
Also, some of the text of your Draft seems to perhaps have been copy-pasted from copyrighted website or websites. This is not permitted, see Wikipedia:COPYPASTE. Arthur goes shopping ( talk) 09:10, 5 September 2015 (UTC) reply

12:34:18, 2 September 2015 review of submission by SUNREST

China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC)

THEN TELL US WHY YOU ARE REQUESTING ASSISTANCE BELOW THIS LINE. Take as many lines as you need. -->}} I submit the page of CEFC few times but those said got some problem, now all the documents are here, thx a lot

China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC) is a non-governmental, non-profit civil society organization. The Committee is an NGO with Special Consultative Status, the United Nations Economic and Social Council (UN ECOSOC). Registered in Hong Kong, the Committee obtains tax exemption under Section 88 of the Inland Revenue Ordinance as a charitable organization. Also registered in Virginia, the United States, the Committee obtains tax exemption under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code as a public charity.


SUNREST ( talk) 12:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

22:49:56, 2 September 2015 review of submission by Highfifan

I attempted to write my first article on a guitar player that I really admire, but it's been rejected two times already. First time because I didn't have footnotes, and second time because of unreliable sources. The thing is that the main sources I've used are independent 3rd party newspapers. Please help me! - Highfifan ( talk) 22:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC) Highfifan ( talk) 22:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Highfifan, at the moment you only have two independent reliable sources that discuss Garcia in any great detail. If you find a few more sources (particularly to verify the information found in the Solo Career section) your draft will be much better off. Primefac ( talk) 00:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC) reply
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September 2 Information

Request on 03:38:27, 2 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Krishanuthe13th


My article has got rejected saying it reads like an advertisement. I have rewritten it. Can you please let me know if it is fine now? Also, is there any problems with the references I have cited? All of them are from reputed Indian newspapers and publications.

Krishanuthe13th ( talk) 03:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Request on 08:28:23, 2 September 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Easytiger1981


Hi! I'd like to request your assistance with my submission "Intersog" that was declined twice. The reason is that it reads like advertising. I've edited the article to be more narrative, but it was still declined. I'm new to Wikipedia, can you please suggest areas for improvement in my article? Thanks in advance!

p.s. I checked similar articles about IT companies in Wiki and adjusted mine to their style, but it was still rejected, although I didn't use any promo text in the article and it reads neutral + I did research within my connections and asked them to read the article and say whether it reads like promo and all of them confirmed the article reads neutral, so this is confusing.

Easytiger1981 ( talk) 08:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi Easytiger1981,
There are sections of the draft that are problematic. "Intersog is a pioneer of mobile health technology development" isn't neutral, nor is the heading "Mobile Health Solutions." The unreferenced clients and projects section reads like advertising because it smacks of notability by association. ("Most of Intersog clients are U.S. based SMEs and multinational companies" "start-ups and established brands") Also, I don't think that that being in the Top 5 Mobile App developers in Chicago as determmined by clutch.co is worthy of a section titled "Recognition."
This isn't my area of expertise - I'm only responding to your question about the tone of the article. Another reviewer may be able to help you construct an article on Intersog that will be acceptable. JSFarman ( talk) 20:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your suggestions! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easytiger1981 ( talkcontribs) 08:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC) reply

12:15:53, 2 September 2015 review of submission by Kneubeiser


My reviewer said my references weren't notable enough. I'm not sure why as they are the original sources from which the content came -- aka the journal's official website. I also mirrored the page after the format of other similar Wikipedia pages on scientific journals, and they used the same types of references. Examples: /info/en/?search=Aging_Cell /info/en/?search=Cancer_Science

Kneubeiser ( talk) 12:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Many Wikipedia articles exist which do not meet the desirable standards... this is partly because new articles could be created without being reviewed, up until a few years ago. So when using an existing article as a comparison or an example to work from, it would be better to use a recognised Wikipedia Good Article. You can find lists of these recognised Good Articles in the various headings and sub-sections to be found after scrolling down the page at Wikipedia:Good articles. A Draft need not be quite so comprehensive or comprehensively referenced as these to be accepted, but they can help to give an idea of the sort of sources, sourcing, and tone that is required.
It's not the references that are "not notable enough", it is that the references you have provided do not provide sufficient evidence of the notability of the topic. Specifically, the journal's own website is not an independent source about the journal, therefore any references to its own website do not assist in meeting Wikipedia:VRS.
Also, some of the text of your Draft seems to perhaps have been copy-pasted from copyrighted website or websites. This is not permitted, see Wikipedia:COPYPASTE. Arthur goes shopping ( talk) 09:10, 5 September 2015 (UTC) reply

12:34:18, 2 September 2015 review of submission by SUNREST

China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC)

THEN TELL US WHY YOU ARE REQUESTING ASSISTANCE BELOW THIS LINE. Take as many lines as you need. -->}} I submit the page of CEFC few times but those said got some problem, now all the documents are here, thx a lot

China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC) is a non-governmental, non-profit civil society organization. The Committee is an NGO with Special Consultative Status, the United Nations Economic and Social Council (UN ECOSOC). Registered in Hong Kong, the Committee obtains tax exemption under Section 88 of the Inland Revenue Ordinance as a charitable organization. Also registered in Virginia, the United States, the Committee obtains tax exemption under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code as a public charity.


SUNREST ( talk) 12:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

22:49:56, 2 September 2015 review of submission by Highfifan

I attempted to write my first article on a guitar player that I really admire, but it's been rejected two times already. First time because I didn't have footnotes, and second time because of unreliable sources. The thing is that the main sources I've used are independent 3rd party newspapers. Please help me! - Highfifan ( talk) 22:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC) Highfifan ( talk) 22:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Highfifan, at the moment you only have two independent reliable sources that discuss Garcia in any great detail. If you find a few more sources (particularly to verify the information found in the Solo Career section) your draft will be much better off. Primefac ( talk) 00:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC) reply

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