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From Cleanup: The Alternate Asphygmo-Pyramidal Syndrome - 2 Google hits (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
Here is the answer I think: Psychiatr Neurol (Basel). 1962;144:137-55. Related Articles, Links The alternate asphymo-pyramidal syndrome. A contribution to diagnosis and classification of carotid thromboses. FRADIS A, PETROVICI I.
The citation is from medline, from a relatively obscure and very old neurology journal. I am guessing from the title that it is the article that proposed this as a new syndrome. So why is this the only hit? Possible reasons include (1) it's really rare-- I doubt this; (2) it has become known by a different name; (3) it turned out not to be a distinct enough or correctly described phenomenon (i.e., it was basically never substantiated). I am suspicious of 2 or 3.
Notice that the author is the same I Petrovici this author wrote an article about. I would wonder if User:Excellsior is A Fradis writing about a 1962 publication of his own with Petrovici. If Petrovici stayed in academic medicine, I expect he has published more important things than this. On the other hand, Fradis may not have had an academic career and this was his published claim to fame. (Or if you want an alternative theory based on the recycling of familiar users, what Romanian doctor do we know who pushes his own obscure research-that-came-to-nothing here?) As I've written some pretty obscure medical stuff here, and cannot believe what a high proportion of our articles are about cartoon shows of the illiterati, I tend to be tolerant of medical esoterica. My only hesitation is that I wouldn't be surprised if the phenomenon was unconfirmed or renamed. I would like to challenge the author to give us the background. If he can point to a mention in a more recent medical textbook or journal article I would immediately accept this article. If he can give a current name for the syndrome, I would accept it with a redirect so that both names are used. If he won't respond, I would be suspicious that the original article and this one are dross.
Is everyone ok with this? Alteripse 23:23, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The medline citation is exactly as I pasted in above. I should have rearranged the spacing to make it clearer:
Anyway, I confess that I am now pleading for a delay of execution out of curiostiy about whether my surmises above are correct. I am hoping Dr. Fradis will come forward and claim his article. I would then be willing to help make it intelligible because I admit that between the Romanian English and the esoteric subject matter, it's hard to follow. If we can't get a defense and an improvement, I will yield to the wishes of the community and avert my eyes while one of you puts it out of its misery. Alteripse 12:59, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
The Alternate Asphygmo-Pyramidal Syndrome was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE
From Cleanup: The Alternate Asphygmo-Pyramidal Syndrome - 2 Google hits (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
Here is the answer I think: Psychiatr Neurol (Basel). 1962;144:137-55. Related Articles, Links The alternate asphymo-pyramidal syndrome. A contribution to diagnosis and classification of carotid thromboses. FRADIS A, PETROVICI I.
The citation is from medline, from a relatively obscure and very old neurology journal. I am guessing from the title that it is the article that proposed this as a new syndrome. So why is this the only hit? Possible reasons include (1) it's really rare-- I doubt this; (2) it has become known by a different name; (3) it turned out not to be a distinct enough or correctly described phenomenon (i.e., it was basically never substantiated). I am suspicious of 2 or 3.
Notice that the author is the same I Petrovici this author wrote an article about. I would wonder if User:Excellsior is A Fradis writing about a 1962 publication of his own with Petrovici. If Petrovici stayed in academic medicine, I expect he has published more important things than this. On the other hand, Fradis may not have had an academic career and this was his published claim to fame. (Or if you want an alternative theory based on the recycling of familiar users, what Romanian doctor do we know who pushes his own obscure research-that-came-to-nothing here?) As I've written some pretty obscure medical stuff here, and cannot believe what a high proportion of our articles are about cartoon shows of the illiterati, I tend to be tolerant of medical esoterica. My only hesitation is that I wouldn't be surprised if the phenomenon was unconfirmed or renamed. I would like to challenge the author to give us the background. If he can point to a mention in a more recent medical textbook or journal article I would immediately accept this article. If he can give a current name for the syndrome, I would accept it with a redirect so that both names are used. If he won't respond, I would be suspicious that the original article and this one are dross.
Is everyone ok with this? Alteripse 23:23, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The medline citation is exactly as I pasted in above. I should have rearranged the spacing to make it clearer:
Anyway, I confess that I am now pleading for a delay of execution out of curiostiy about whether my surmises above are correct. I am hoping Dr. Fradis will come forward and claim his article. I would then be willing to help make it intelligible because I admit that between the Romanian English and the esoteric subject matter, it's hard to follow. If we can't get a defense and an improvement, I will yield to the wishes of the community and avert my eyes while one of you puts it out of its misery. Alteripse 12:59, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.