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If this agency is "inter-govermental" how can it claim copyright? Sennheiser 15:32, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've just been sent a wonderful quicktime panorama photograph (.mov format) from the person who gave permission for his two photographs on Tamar Bridge to be used. I really want to upload a flattened-out jpeg of the image. Is there any good way to convert this type of file into a jpg? The only thought I've had is that I could take several screenshots and lace them together. Replies to my talk page please, any help appreciated! Cheers, fabiform | talk 09:10, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser resized the original File:Lockmart.JPG. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
Sennheiser resized the original media:Lockmart.JPG. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
-> meta:Talk:Anonymous users should not be allowed to edit articles
-> Wikipedia talk:Celebrating 200,000
Sennheiser asks about Government's copyrights. Moved to Wikipedia talk:copyright.
Adam requests help with the new image feature. Moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax.
-> wikipedia:ignored feature requests. Do not raise bug reports or suggest features here.
-> Wikipedia talk:Make only links relevant to the context
Running down the new recent changes by anon users page reveals all manner of articles in need of wikification or other loving care and attention. I urge all Wikipedians to make time each day to review this list. Elde 03:17, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
...I was just looking at Microsoft...it seems the software just isn't accepting ku as a proper language... - IMSoP 17:00, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
-> Talk:Slashdot trolling phenomena
This bug has been squashed. Thanks!
Search and edit bugs seem to be fixed. Thanks for the feedback!
--> Wikipedia talk:Village pump
Fixed, thanks for the notice. -- Brion 07:15, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Yesterday I wrote an article on Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear engineer. I uploaded it shortly before 8pm UTC. Only 16 hours later, it's already received a variety of useful edits from seven other editors. I think this is amazing - Wikipedia's editing community is incredibly responsive. It's a great tool, but it's the energy and enthusiasm of the contributors, so visible in this instance, which have made it so successful. Long may it continue. :-) -- ChrisO 13:01, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have deleted
Transient 3 4 5 times today. Why does it keep coming back?
Bmills 12:38, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Kill the squid, developers! -- till we *) 14:58, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser reccommends that the developers of Wikipedia and those who are pessimistic about squid read these two excellent O'Reilly articles concerning caching: [3] [4] Also look at this ad for the Web Caching O'reilly book: [5]
Sennheiser did a cachability test on this village pump and has posted his results.
Sennheiser resized the original [6]. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
Sennheiser points out a problem with the new image resize feature. Please see Igor Kurchatov to fully understand the problem.
ChrisO praises wikipedia and its editors/memebers. :)
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiLove
Help, please, with putting 5 pics in a column on the page. In
Sistine Chapel I need to know the new code to put the 5 pics in the same vertical arrangement as you see on the page now.
Thanks.
Adrian Pingstone 11:18, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
<div style="float:right; margin-left:10px; margin-right:10px; width:200px; text-align:center"> [[image:sistine.chapel.entire.500pix.jpg|200px|none|thumb|''The interior of the Sistine Chapel'']]
Sometimes Sennheiser talks in the third person. I recently got a note on my talk page from User:RickK. He told Sennheiser that this annoyed him. Sennheiser posted a reply to ricks page, [7] but he called it nonsense and deleted. Does the majority agree with Rickk? If so, I might be able to curtail my use of the 3rd person. (see I tried!) Sennheiser 04:14, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I stumbled over this at special:Specialpages... is there anyone with this access yet? Or is it a new thing? Just curious. Pakaran . 03:58, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Brilliant pictures candidates is being ignored. Should it be merged with featured article candidates since this gets a reasonable number of people checking it? Example: Snoyes nominated someone else's image on 19 Nov 2003, there have been no comments/objections, but it's still sitting on Brilliant pictures candidates over two months later. By the way there are only 7 candidates in total at the moment (1 nomination, 6 self-nominations). fabiform | talk 20:47, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have created a table template for albums. Two examples can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. Your comments are welcome. Somebody who knows how to use the table syntax should make it look better. -- [Presumably Tuf-Kat]
Is this the place to suggest that rocks & minerals should have standard tables like those currently used for, for example, birds and dogs (e.g., Whippet)? I've got a sample of a rock and a mineral on my user page. Elf 20:19, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC) Comments?
Part, but not all, of Ugly Rumours appears to be copied from here, and I suspect that the source may be more tongue-in-cheek than firm fact. Now I don't want to blank the non-copied content with the copyvio message. What's the best thing to do? Bmills 13:45, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What album were The Eagles writing/recording when they occupied a beach house in Encinitas, Calif. in the early 1970's?
Anetra Wright 2-4-04
email address: oceanita@juno.com
What album were The Eagles writing/recording when occupying a beach house in Encinitas, Calif. in the early 1970's?
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE HAS BEEN A FAMILY GENEALOGY DONE ON MR. CLARK. AND IF SO CAN IT BE SEEN ON THE INTERNET OR OBTAINED/ THANKS CAROLYN CLARK
Since the last day or two, Wikipedia has become very buggy on Mozilla 1.6 (Mac 10.3). Right now and occasionally on other pages, I see the outline to part of a large grid in the upper left-hand corner of the screen (appears here, in the edit window, and on the displayed pump). The grid seems to be the normally invisible lines in between the sections of links on the left side of the page, but extended outward into the edit window and title. I also keep getting "connection was refused" and timeout errors, and sometimes pages just do not load, with no error message at all. About half the time I try to load a page, it doesn't appear. Tuf-Kat 20:57, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Currently when I check in a page edit, I'm getting back the pre-edit version; I have to do a shift-Reload on the browser (Mozilla) to get the correct version. Without expertise in writing http handlers, I'd guess that the server used to send the updated version with a command to override cached versions, but now the order to override is omitted. Of course, my browser (Mozilla) and my proxy servers have not changed at all. Has a new and better server gone in with, this little difference in prograBUser:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 04:51, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Probably a dumb question, but why is it that text that I can see in the history of this page is not visible in the page itself (e.g. Adam Carr's lates addition)? Bmills 10:52, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
(moved to meta:Cache bugs#VP text not appearing
What's a good rule of thumb for the quality and accurateness of an image for adding it to an article. I've been in a series of debates and disputes about a certain user's images which I feel are not encyclopedic in nature. (See talk:yeti and talk:paranthropus for instance.) - UtherSRG 02:20, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Bold textCould you tell me if Mr. Wesley Clark could possibly be the same person who gave a talk at the Naval Air Station, Memphis, TN. in the late 70's? Thank you.
Copied from the reference desk because (a) my question pertains to Wikipedia itself, and (b) this page has a whole lot more viewers than the reference desk →Raul654
I'm having a strange problem when uploading images... (please tell me what I'm doing wrong!). I tweaked a diagram that I had drawn and previously uploaded to wikipedia. I saved the new version on my computer with an indentical file name to the original, and then uploaded it (with the intention of replacing the old version with the new one). Well the image file history does make it look like I've replaced the picture, but in fact it's the old version which shows (even after a shift-refresh). Have a look here: Image:Disposable menstrual diaphragm inserted.png (sorry about the subject matter!). The diaphragm should be two different shades of purple, like this image: Image:Disposable_menstrual_cup_inserted.png. fabiform | talk 22:59, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Something's wrong. All page moves that I have done recently has timed out or resulted in a blank page while the rest of WP is speedy enough. BL 01:58, Feb 4, 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I just tried to delete User:GenePoole/Self-aggrandizement, an obnoxious page that Wik had created, and move it back to George Francis Cruickshank, but somehow, the delete/move got timed out and now we don't have the George Francis Cruickshank data anywhere. Can somebody help me to get it back? RickK 04:05, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have an idea. first, read the article on Preference_voting before going on. now, here's the idea when its mathematically impossible for someone to win, drop them! for example: <html>
Laura | 30 votes |
Billy | 20 votes |
Abu | 15 votes |
Boris | 5 votes |
Lee | 2 votes |
Shelia | 1 vote |
</html>
now, in this example, even if we drop both Shelia, AND Lee, and even if all of their voters vote for Boris, there is no way that Boris can over-take Abu.
I like this idea, but as far as I know its not the law anywhere, though it should be.
I'd like to add to some pages this idea, but am not sure how to do it. I'd like to name this idea after myself of course ;)
Pellaken 02:40, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
oh, please respond in my talk page if you have anything 'major' to say, as I am liable to forget about this
Have a look at What Wikipedia entries are not, especially point number nine, Personal essays, and ten, Primary research. But, if on the other hand the system has been tried, then the system used in this trial could be the subject of an article or a section, together with details of how it worked or didn't. Andrewa 03:16, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Ok, let me clarify the above - he is the first person to actually propose doing it intentionally. The 1984 presidental election was an accident. His idea is definietely original and (as such) definetely does not belong here. →Raul654 03:17, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
ok... I have NO clue what the hack raul is talking about. this has nothing to do with the american electoral system, less with the electoral college, and much less then anything involving time zones. Either way, I was basacally looking if I could add this, as a logical alternative, to preferential balloting articles. for example: 'some people think blah blah blah' etc. If not that's cool, but I think it deserves a mention. Pellaken 03:59, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I just had a strange experience and I wonder if anyone else has had the same. I use Mozilla for browsing Wikipedia, and I have saved my User Page, Recent Changes and Watchlist as a group, so I click one button when I start Mozilla and all three pages come up (kind of) simultaneously. Well just now I did this, and whilst my User Page came up fine, the other two swore blind that I was no longer logged in. Is this some sort of strange cookie behaviour or is there a different explanation? (BTW rather faster today than yesterday it seems) -- Phil 09:40, Feb 3, 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser recognizes this Squid problem and suggests the developers look at this squid documentation page.
We have a user, Shaheen Lakhan ( User:slakhan), who appears to be notable enough to warrant an article. Since doing an autobiography is discouraged, could someone please take up the task of creating such a page? (I would do it myself, but I am very pressed for time these days...). - Anthropos 05:15, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Why do I have difficulty loading Recent changes and the page histories? I remember an announcement saying hardware problems would be over by the end of January? (I won't ask why it's me again and no one else who asks these questions.) <KF> 23:56, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There is definitely something strange going on this morning. I keep being told that pages don't exist and that edits can't be saved. There do seem to be a lot of bugs in the system recently. Adam 23:59, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can someone explain "squid" and "slashdot" to non-technopersons? Adam 00:52, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hmm. Twice now I've tried to delete a few paragraphis from Laocoon and his Sons (having already pasted them into Laocoon. Both times the deletion worked fine, but when I try to view the page (using the link on Laocoon, for example) my browser says "file not found" - note that it's not an HTTP (apache/squid or whatever) error. Is anyone else having weird save problems in other places (if so, well, you're probably not reading this!). If not, could someone go over to Laocoon and his Sons and see if the same thing happens to them as happens here. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:34, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Vitamin-S, fringe science or real science, YOU be the judge! Seriously though, is there any validity to this article? At the very least, the language needs a touch-up to be more encyclopedic (whatever that means).
While we're at it, can someone please write an article on fringe science? I'll also add it to the list of articles that need creating, but hey, as long as I'm here... -- Dante Alighieri 19:16, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There was an article about Aspirin as "Vitamin S" in New Scientist this week. Evercat 02:11, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I, Sennheiser, have found an amazingly complete and detailed public domain site which has (long) articles about everything from SETI to the American Civil War. These articles are written by Greg Goebel, and many include diagrams created by Goebel (public domain). Sennheiser !
Hi Dori: Forgive me if I chuckling a little bit, but Wikipedia hacks have ported about a dozen of my works to the Wiki and I've been corresponding with them for some time. However, I'm not unhappy to get in touch with you because I've been a little frustrated in my dealings with Wiki hacks -- not because they've been unkind to me (quite the opposite!) but because they haven't taken as much advantage of me as I am willing to give them. I don't want to monkey with the Wiki myself directly, since working on my site is enough of a job, but I would like to extend a standing invitation to Wiki hacks that I am willing to: % Consider requests, particularly if they are something close to what I am already doing. % Abridge or provide outlines of my documents, this being much easier for me to do than somebody else since I have my brain wrapped around them already. % Extract elements from larger documents and convert them into stand-along documents -- for example, say, yanking the story of the Battle of Gettysburg from my oversized Civil War history and turning it into a stand-alone item. I must say I am impressed that the Wiki seems to maintain surprisingly high standards of quality for a contribution based system. I suspect that a good review system is the key. PS: As a kindly-meant and minor suggestion, you might try more specific titles than simply "Hi". I opened up the email expecting it to be pornographic spam ... Nice chatting ... Greg Goebel
I think some of the editors interested in the subjects covered in the site should contact Greg and cooperate to bring some of that information into Wikipedia. Perhaps we should create a cooperation page to track this. Dori | Talk 17:03, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
He seems very nice. I have created a Short Sunderland, mostly from his article, but I did add pictures of each mark(it took a while to find an image of each different version, and they were hard to tell apart). Since he releases his work in the public domain, he gives away his work without any expectation that he will get credit. (i did, however, give him credit in the article I created) Sennheiser ! 17:11, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've been sitting on this for a few days, thinking it might resolve itself, but to no avail. I want to see Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, but it's ancient (an update would be appreciated), with a redirect to http://download.wikimedia.org/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#Wikipedians. The link is broken, however. →Raul654 09:18, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
While some pages on Iraq will need some time to be fully updated, I think we can safely gut Military of Iraq as the chance of it being accurate ever again are just about nil. -- Dante Alighieri 07:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Looking at the list of contributions for User:SuperBee, I discovered an article called (Yerzoplazistonian) Civil War Civil War. When I click on it, it takes me to an empty article. The article is not nonexistant, it doesn't come up as an article to be created, it's there, though empty. I can click on the "Discuss this page" and get into an edit to create a Talk page. But there's no "Delete this page" link. How can we get rid of this? RickK 02:18, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
After seeing color in parts of other user's signatures, Sennheiser attempted to make the exclamation mark talk page link(see User:Sennheiser#Sennheiser's Decision to use ! instead of . for the link to his talk page) in his signature black. Obviously he failed in implementing this feature. Any suggestions? Sennheiser ! 01:31, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
<a><font></font></a>
rather than <font><a></a></font>
. [[foo|<font color="magenta">bar</font>]]->
bar. But I agree that it's better to use bold, especially since you could potentially break someone's custom colourscheme if you specify absolute colours. -
IMSoP 02:14, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)Absolute colours are evil, particulary around links. Please use bold, italic, etc instead. Martin 20:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Fabiform panics when a cached copy of an image is briefly shown. fabiform | talk 22:59, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I am a newcommer and am very impressed with this fantastic collective Free Encyclopedia. I would be honnored to make contributions to it, graphics wise, but first I need to now if the format I use and specialize in is suitable for your programm scince I have not seen it in the list of requested formats.
I work with SWF format, wich is a open format. My original technical illustrations and animations uses vectors wich produces very light weight files for fast downloads.
Here is an example showing the innerworkings of a Manual Transmission. It is fully interactive and make only 37K. A single picture (still) would be at around only 2K. http://www3.lino.sympatico.ca/geebee/custom/transmis.htm
I also produce JPGs and PNGs , but mostly I do in SWF because of vectors been so light.
If you find the format acceptable, then I would be happy to contribute as much as I can. I have many already done and some of the requests I see here I can produce quite easily and to top quality.
Best regards, and bravo for this wonderfull project that is, in my opinion, totally in tune with the real nature and purpose of the Internet.
geebee@lino.sympatico.ca
Question about whether he spoke in Tennessee in the 70s: already at Wikipedia:Reference desk.
Hello, I'm looking to exchange links with your site I will place a link to your site from ours [9]. Please let me know if this is possible Regards, Matt
Given how big a deal this seems when I read the news articles about it, maybe we should have an article on it? See current events. -- Dante Alighieri 18:39, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've added a bit to the current events page and beefed up the article on screeners, but I think we should have a page on Carmine Caridi. Any takers? -- Dante Alighieri 18:39, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I was just browsing the 'pedia and I came across the following articles, Homo erectus soloensis and Homo erectus meganthropus. I know a bit about the Homo genus and hadn't heard of these guys before. Can anyone with more expertise than myself help determine if these articles reflect consensus views on the subject or are, rather, fringe science? Thanks. -- Dante Alighieri 18:33, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As of November 7th, 2003, Google references 60,300 back-links to us... now its "about 73,700". We're going up quickly, I must say. --- user:zanimum
I've reformatted the Stratocaster article using the Wikipedia:Extended image syntax and the image captions have disappeared. Can someone please tell me what I've done wrong? They are quite important to the article. Andrewa 15:49, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Zagreb states it was invented by Slavoljub Penkala which article states he invented an automatic pencil. Ballpoint pen states it was invented by Laszlo Biro -- SGBailey 2004-02-05
Is it just me, or is Recent Changes not updating? Mine is stuck at 14:10. Bmills 14:47, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have just re-written Wikipedia:Articles requested for over two years to give pointers to what the requested articles should be about. With a little vim from a user or two we could clear this list today! Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 11:07, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Trivial thing... but when I go to the front page the "you have messages" link is shown. But I don't, I've visited my talk page, checked the page history, refreshed the front page etc, but the message remains. Is this something to so with the squid that has recently been employed at wiki-central? I remember someone saying that he was caching pages. ;) fabiform | talk 09:48, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What gives? It has been nearly a day since the last post was archived on the mailing lists. [11] -- mav 09:05, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm starting a Wikipedia:Favorite quotes page, because, well... I think there ought be one. My justification is that we already have a "Brilliant prose" page, and that a favorite quotes page is a good way to link to internal debates that were memorable, and should be read by people, rather than buried so that the issues would flame up again. T'will be done. - 戴眩sv 08:29, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have registered wikipedia.org.uk, and set it to forward to http://en.wikipedia.org. The forwarding only seems to be successful on the main page.
If anyone from wikipedia admin would like me to assign the site to them, please let me know. -- Chris Q 07:36, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
With an Apache redirect directive either in an .htaccess file or in the httpd.conf it should work for the subpages as well. Example:
Redirect / http://en.wikipedia.org/
If this doesn't work http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue61/nielsen2.html should have a solution. Gabriel Wicke 12:23, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I live in the jungle of Belize, Central America. I am well educated but not knowledgeable about correct names of various plants and animals I take picutres of. I take pictures of what intrest me and have a large collection but no ideal of prper names. I know the pictures would enhance wikipedia but don't know how to post em properly. For example I have on of a multicolore lizard have no Ideal of it's scientific name so can't post it. General stuff I can do like pictures of goverment buildings, villages, and such and I have started doing so. I also will take pics by request if you explain what you want. Also what is the approriate size / resoultion for post? I use a 4 mega pixil digital camera at it's highest rez, and a 35mm SLR film camera. Belizian 07:32, 2004 Feb 5 (UTC)
Question about what album they were writing; moved to Wikipedia:Reference Desk
Request for genealogical information for "MR CLARK"; moved to Wikipedia:Reference Desk
I'm not as much of a regular as I used to be around here so didn't notice he'd gone. Is he on holiday/gone cold turkey/coming back? If someone knows could they drop me a line on my talk page (to save space here) and delete this section if they think it won't be of interest to others? Cheers -- Ams80 19:54, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
An example is http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tic-tac-toe , which is a transparent clone of Tic-tac-toe. What is going to be done about this?
I wonder what made FUnaba (redirect page) apepars three times in "What links here" of Funabashi, Chiba. Is this need some fix? If so, how can it be fixed?
Thanks. I failed to find a description of this problem in FAQ.
Dear Sir / Ms., Hello!
We would be happy if you could give link of our website www.gandhi-manibhavan.org in your website.
Herewith, we are sending you the brief description of our Museum and Website for your information.
URL of the website : http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org
Description : Mani Bhavan is the place where Gandhi stayed from 1917 to 1934, whenever he was in Mumbai. It was from here that Gandhi initiated Civil Disobedience, Swadeshi, Khadi and Khilafat Movements. The house is now converted into a Museum. The website of Mani Bhavan Gandhi Sangrahalaya provides extensive information on Gandhi and his views, the books read by Gandhi, Gandhi's original voice, his personal documents, anecdotes, ashram prayers, photographs etc.....
To reciprocate, we will give link of your website in our related website on Gandhi. Please inform us when you add our link.
Thank you in advance.
With warm regards,
Mani Bhavan Gandhi Sangrahalaya 19 Laburnum Road, Gamdevi, Mumbai - 400 007, India Tel. No. +91-22-2380 5864 / 2380 8218 Fax No. +91-22-23806239 Email: info@gandhi-manibhavan.org
Kindly visit our most comprehensive and regularly updated website: www.gandhi-manibhavan.org and send us your comments and suggestions to make more user friendly
At least in my prefered browser Opera, the "thumb" function for images seems not to be producing the desired results. The smaller version of the pic is in the article all right, but the little "enlarge" icon is seldom anywhere near the pic, sometimes paragraphs away, often over irrelevent text. Could we please stop converting images to this new system until it works better? Thanks, -- Infrogmation 05:47, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser will sign his posts at the end in future. (Sorry for cutting so soon, but the page is still too long).
Discussion moved to User talk:Sennheiser
See FAQ at the top of page.
Hi, what is your opinion of the most accurate Greek to modern English translation of New Testament to date ? And where may I purchase it ? Thanks, RustY Haynes hayneshunting@bellsouth.net
We need a category of non-sysop users who are allowed to view deleted articles. Anthony DiPierro 00:18, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy
We don't seem to be in the habit of putting See Also links in our articles. Isn't it common practice in paper encyclopedias to have a See Also section right under the article title?
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Lists (embedded lists)
I created Wikipedia talk:Taxoboxes and beyond to centralize discussion regarding the taxobox-style tables present on articles.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Taxobox
You can't use " in the new thumbnail captions, use ' instead.
Moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
Sennheiser notes that Google's logo today includes fractals and links to an image search of "julia fractals". Practically every site in the results has been slashdotted. (::evil grin::) Sennheiser suggests that we take this opportunity to improve our fractal articles. The AOTD has been set to Fractal. [12]
ChrisO praises wikipedia and its editors/members. :)
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiLove
Hi folks. There's a fix going in for the problem with the empty space after ==Titles== being dependent on whether there's a empty line or not after the title. So, I need to know which you'd prefer as the standard behaviour for titles.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:How to edit a page
Wikipedia:What is an article states that there is no means at present of automatically determining disambiguation pages. Could this be done by detecting the presence of the {{msg:disambig}} metatag-thing? -- SGBailey 11:40, 2004 Feb 3 (UTC)
Trying to determine my ethnic group -> Reference Desk
--> taken to Wikipedia:Reference desk
I just noticed the article for transient. It seems strange and off topic. Did the author know more than I do, or does the article need a rewrite? - Pingveno 03:30, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I don't know enough Chinese to go to the Chinese pages and figure out how to correct this, but the main "Traditional Chinese" page contains Simplified Chinese text, and vice versa.
Wha? Specific example? -- Jia ng
Well, how do i do it? The Knights of Pythias was founded on February 19, 1864, so we gotta jump on this.
Here's a little gem that a friend found and tossed my way. Let's just not all use it on Wikipedia.org or else we'll be in even worse shape. :) Graphical Google Browser
-- Dante Alighieri 00:45, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
[13] ker-boom -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:42, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured pictures candidates is being ignored. Should it be merged with featured article candidates since this gets a reasonable number of people checking it? Example: Snoyes nominated someone else's image on 19 Nov 2003, there have been no comments/objections, but it's still sitting on Brilliant pictures candidates over two months later. By the way there are only 7 candidates in total at the moment (1 nomination, 6 self-nominations). fabiform | talk 20:47, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There's a renegade table tag on the main page. jengod 18:32, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Help, please, with putting 5 pics in a column on the page.
Discussion (with answer) moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
There is now acres of white space next to the picture at the top of this page (at least on my not-excessively-high-res screen).
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
I DO love the new features in this vision of new wiki. it's fantastic! -- Yacht ( Talk) Q 01:30, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Apologies if this isn't the correct place to ask, but I have a question about the entries for towns and cities. I have looked at dozens of small towns and cities and it seems that all have nothing more than the type of information that is available in an almanac. Is this intentional or simply because no one has added other things? As for example history of the area, current conditions, etc.
I was wondering [pardon if this isn't the right place] ... if I look up "wikipedia.org" IP @ DNSstuff ... I get 130.94.122.199 ... but when I navigate to 130.94.122.199 I get the followin msg "Note that the address for www.wikipedia.org should be 130.94.122.199. This server is 130.94.122.197" ... could anyone tell me what the problem is? Sincerely, JDR
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Taxobox
For an article count updated rougly every 5-15 seconds, see #enrc.wikipedia on irc.freenode.net -- Tim Starling 14:49, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)
Could someone please check the table on my sandbox? I'm trying to switch from using HTML to the wiki code and am not sure I've got the hang of it yet. Thanks -- sannse 12:40, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
See the Village pump is overpopulated section in Wikipedia talk:Village pump or click here: [14] for a discussion on how to keep VP small and usable. Optim 18:19, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Earlier I removed the synopsis of the Harry Potter series from Harry Potter to Harry Potter (plot) in order to remove the spoilers from the main article.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers
This was the incorrect place to move the article to. It was a question about the massive duplication and obvious fan-based content (i.e. the summary of book 2 which would take nearly 20 minutes to read!) I will see if I can find a better place for it - suggestions would be appreciated. -- HappyDog 18:33, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I try to get to the article on Transvaal, it gives a blank page. Same thing happened yesterday...
The page is still in Google's archive though.
Has there been a discussion about the target reading level that we are aiming for? I see a wide range in the articles. I've watched many articles start out understandable by a layman but end up so qualified and academic that only a scholar already in the field can make sense of it. Rossami 21:51, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
The "Usage Statistics" page displays an empty apache page (since Jan. 28th at least)... Maybe because of recent server problems? Why not insert some dummy page?
Moreover, the display of the empty directory is bad from a security point of view: directory listings should be disabled in Apache's httpd.conf.
Lapinou 20:35, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This topic came up in the infobox discussion, but I thought it warranted mentioning or discussing here:
For new wiki users trying to edit existing content, the table formatting is intimidating since it appears at the beginning of the entry and might scroll down a long way. ESPECIALLY so since we're now trying to use the wiki markup instead of HTML, so even experienced web users could easily be confused.
Should we suggest that, in all cases where there are tables, there should be a leading a comment (how do you do that in wiki--same as in HTML?) that says something like "This page starts with notation for the table displayed on the page. Scroll down to where the main article text begins"? Elf 04:25, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hey, in the spirit of the Super Bowl happenings et. all, how about if we go Britney Spears- Janet Jackson- Dennis Rodmanesque and call ourselves Wikipedia, the kickas* encyclopedia instead of wikipedia, the free encyclopedia?..LOL Just a comment to light it up a little but wouldnt it be funny if we could do that? LOL
Antonio The Wikipedia Crazy Resident Martin
Seems to be working again -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 03:39, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
A division of the Miniseries of Information
I recently attempted to make a table at U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004 (superseding a previous one). The table itself has come out okay, but always seems to be put at the very end of the document when the page is viewed (it's supposed to appear part-way through). I've looked at the code several times, but I can't find out why this happens. Is there anyone knowledgable about such things who can tell me where I've messed up? Thanks. -- Vardion 03:17, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can some sysop please delete George Francis Cruickshank? The VfD vote was 77.8% to delete, yet Angela just moved it to the talk page. -- Wik 20:12, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
(the above was by 200.207.163.47 -- Delirium 11:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC))
I was thinking about creating a script to count contributions to wikipedia. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, however. Has anyone done this already? If one of you already has, could you send it to edwardsenft@yahoo.com? If not, feel free to ask me for a copy once I finish it. Sennheiser ! 15:42, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Spotted on Xinhua, the official Chinese newswire, no less:
Huh? Maybe this is a new explanation for Wikipediholism - it's actually an infectious disease! :-) -- ChrisO 11:46, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
A Community Information page
HI there, I am very intersted in setting up a link or affiliate with your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara pages. I have a site that sells only Che Guevara items and I am in the process of setting up affiliates. I am very interested in working with you. Please let me know if your interested. Sincerely Johnnyhavana www.theCHEstore.com
How comes that older revisions of images are no longer accessible. On the image description page, only the link to the current revision works, while the links to previous revisions give a 404. Are the older revisions lost, or is the link just pointing to the wrong location? I remember that last time I used that link (months ago) they worked. andy 20:39, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
--> Talk:George Francis Cruickshank
Plants and animals of Belize is in serious need of help. Since it's nothing but images at the moment, the formatting has become darn near impossible. Can someone who knows about these things PLEASE throw them into a table... preferrably one that's easy (read easy for people who don't know about tables) to add to? Thanks. -- Dante Alighieri 19:58, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
where do software suggestions go?
There should be a verification screen after clicking on "Protect this page" and on "Unprotect this page" that says "Are you sure you want to do this?" The protection button is right next to commonly used buttons, and once in a while the mouse misses the intended target. Kingturtle 16:39, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Please have a look at Wikipedia:Unidentified flowers for some pretty pictures and see if you can help identify them. These were taken by Belizian, and I felt the page should be advertized a bit more so I am posting it here. Dori | Talk 05:02, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
I put a question on here two days ago, and it's already been deleted. I had to dig through the history to find out that somebody had responded to it. I realize that the Pump is a busy place, but please give the people who post questions at least a couple of days to read the responses before you delete things! RickK 01:50, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I want to buy a Grokker, robot spider or crawler that will datamine internet WWW sites for all the trade boards such as
Alibaba.com chinalocator.com businesfinder.comebigchina.com china_excite.com ec21.com euro-trade.net
An estimated 20,000 such sites exist on the WWW all it needs to do is gather the URLs and then
The spider should also automatically register/enroll/list a company at each of the trade boards with, name, address, tel, fax, email, URL, by product category and its products together with graphic files at each trade board
Is such software available on the market?
Dr. Peter Palms PhD Palms & Company, Inc. Palms Harbour Lights Building, Suite 203 515lake Street South Kirkland (seattle), Washington State USA 98033 Tel 1 425 828 6774 Fax 1 425 827 5528 Email: Grokker@Peterpalms.com WWW: Peterpalms.com
"Please note that the Wikipedia database will be locked for read-only access from 8 February 05:00 UTC = 9pm PST, midnight EST, 5am GMT, 6am CET. This should only last for a couple of hours, and is necessary to allow a major system upgrade."
Ooh, new servers? I've already saved some wikiwork to do in the donwtime. :) fabiform | talk 22:16, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I tried to upload something, I got
Morwen 12:35, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)
please help if you can im trying to see if I can be on a list I dont know if you have it its called write to any sailor?? I know I use to write to people before on a diffrent ship and was wondering if you did the same thing or knew how to get ahold of someone who did?? please let me know lorrainej55@hotmail.com or lori_lo2003@yahoo.com thank you
An official Navy response to such requests can be found here. There are two specific programs available for Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. Jamesday 10:04, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This topic came up in the Infobox discussion, but I thought it warranted mentioning or discussing here:
For new wiki users trying to edit existing content, the table formatting is intimidating since it appears at the beginning of the entry and might scroll down a long way. ESPECIALLY so since we're now trying to use the wiki markup instead of HTML, so even experienced web users could easily be confused.
Should we suggest that, in all cases where there are tables, there should be a leading a comment (how do you do that in wiki--same as in HTML?) that says something like "This page starts with notation for the table displayed on the page. Scroll down to where the main article text begins"? Elf 04:25, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
andy 11:06, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As a side note to the above: I'd like some input on how to caption the covers. Just for expediency's sake, I would caption them with the title of the book. (See Lord of the Flies or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or examples). Fabiform suggested publisher, date. I'd like to know if anyone else has suggestions. →Raul654 08:06, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Yet another wikipedia utility: Wikipedia:RC patrol. If you have spotted an edit which looks questionable (but is not blatant vandalism), go ahead and submit it to the aforementioned page. Hopefully people will browse the page once in a while and check whether specific edits to articles which they are knowledgeable about are "OK". More info on the page. - snoyes 19:45, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Vitamin-S, fringe science or real science, YOU be the judge! --> Talk:Fringe science
This is an amazingly complete and detailed public domain site which has (long) articles about everything from SETI to the American Civil War. These articles are written by Greg Goebel, and many include diagrams created by Goebel (public domain).
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Porting Vectorsite articles
Has Wikipedia been the victim of inter-temporal vandalism? →Raul654 14:24, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
Just a reminder that the four-week period for raising objections to articles that were not clear keeps in the original voting is at its exact mid point. If you voted to remove an article but have not raised a formal objection to it, please do so now at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Bmills 10:37, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits was moved to [15].
Update article, rename or move? --> Talk:Military of Iraq
I've been getting intermittent "file not found" messages. For example, I went to VfD, clicked on a link from there and then pressed "back", only to get an error message saying the file could not be found -- this was not a 404 or any such thing, it was a popup box like any other in Mac OSX (Mozilla). Is this part of the recent Wiki-madness due to servers and new features and slashdotting being flung about willy-nilly? Tuf-Kat 04:58, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
--> Talk:Nuclear proliferation
Homo erectus soloensis and Homo erectus meganthropus fringe science or what? --> Talk:Homo erectus soloensis
Appear to have been disrupted during a server move.
戴眩sv has started Wikipedia:Favorite quotes.
--> Talk:U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004
the only mistake hitla made he didnt get all you fucking jews
claymountains@yahoo.com
Don't know if Lumpenproletariat should be moved to lumpen ploletariat. Need help from whatever that language is (German?). Discuss at Talk:Lumpenproletariat please. -- Maio 22:22, Feb 11, 2004 (UTC)
To The Permissions Department,
CECIERJ - Science and Distance Learning Foundation of Rio de Janeiro is the support foundation for the consortium CEDERJ, which is a consortium of six public universities (UERJ, UNIRIO, UENF, UFRJ, UFF, UFRRJ) located in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The consortium aims to offer high quality distance public higher education.
By offering undergraduate distance learning courses, the consortium CEDERJ:
The consortium CEDERJ works by building local centers distributed across the state (eleven at the moment). The course’s quality is ensured by the consortium and in the face-to-face and distance tutoring system.
Our courses are based on printed material and online courses, whose content is enriched by images, videos, audio, links, texts, programs, simulators, etc.
All our courses are given at no charge for the students and the educational material is heavily subsidized so as to minimize the cost to the student. The educational material is only sold to students of the courses in the consortium. They are not sold to the open public.
We would like to request your authorization for using the images found in your site for undetermined time in our courses. We commit ourselves to credit the material and use it only in our educational material.
Thank you for your attention. Please contact us if you need any further information.
It should be perfectly fine to use all material here for educational purposes. Even other purposes, just as long as all materials remain under the GNU FDL (English) / GNU FDL (Portugûes). Κσυπ Cyp 21:23, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm writing an estory which I hope to sell. It's about a geek who becomes a religious prophet but still sees the world as a geek. As a computer geek for over 30 years I've come to relish the term.
Anyway, talk radio host are flamming trolls, the government is bloatware and stuff like that. I could easily write my own definitions for these terms, in fact I just finished adding to Internet troll, but would like to make the readers aware of Wikipedia, the good work being done here and the revolutionary approach it embodies. The problem is I've read the copyleft stuff several times and am still at a loss. Examples would really help. I just want to quote from Wikipedia articles as you would from any text but I'm just not sure how to do that.
Does the complete article have to be copied rather than the relevant bits. Does the entire GPL have to be included? Does that make the work GPLed?
From reading the docs it's seems that most of the GPL stuff is for large amounts of information rather than citations under fair use. It's clear that a lot of work went into constructing the GPL for legal correctness. But I'm not a lawyer and haven't got a clue. It seems that fair use should cover the few sentences I would like but even if it does I would prefer to abide by your decision.
Thanks
hi I want to know how much cost every meter rice field in Ramsar (in Toman)? my e-mail address is : aria272002@yahoo.com
User:Wik seems to insist on replacing ndashes – with ASCII dashes -. Style guides for printed work such as encyclopedias, as well as Unicode, state that for ranges such as dates an ndash (1998–2000) and not a dash (1998-2000) should be used. One advantage of using the correct dash is that a linebreak won't occur on the right of it. Is there some official policy from the Wikipedia on this, or should I just wait until Wik tires of his game and restore the correct dashes? Jo r 01:00, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles are about being easy to read and edit. The average non techie reader has no idea what the sequence of characters "–" is supposed to mean. It makes the article source ugly and therefore harder to edit. This kind of stuff should be kept at a minimum. —Eloquence 01:34, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
Well the new dash conversion has just gone live. One hyphen - ; two -- ; three --- ; and of course four is the horozontal rule. We've all been muttering about having confusing "&..." symbols in the wiki editing box, but it just occured to me that this wont happen with the new markup. In the editing box the n-dash (if it was entered that way) will just look like --, just as horozontal rules display as ----. fabiform | talk 12:38, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Doesn't Wikipedia use UTF-8? Can't we just insert the actual mdash and ndash characters? That would make editing much easier. 137.222.10.57 17:03, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC).
Sir/Madam
Re history of ALCO Power Inc the date GEC (UK) purchased the company was in the early 1980's (about 1982/3 I forget the exact) not 1970 as stated on the page as below.
"The diesel engine business was sold to White Motor Corporation in 1970, who formed them into White Industrial Power. In 1970, White Industrial Power was sold to the British General Electric Company (GEC) who renamed the unit Alco Power, Inc. The business was subsequently sold to the Fairbanks-Morse corporation, who ..."
Best Regards
John Lankester(ex employee)
(My English might be weird because I'm from Europe.) Is there anybody else who'd love to make a vandalized page that has a lot of the original content of the article but with all kind of things added or changed so that it is very funny? I'd love to vandalize a page in such a way, but I think Wikipedia is really great and I really would like it to become a real encyclopedia. Many articles are awesome and could go right into a real encyclopedia. Because I don't want to "hurt" Wikipedia I will never do such funny vandalism.
The page that really would be my favourite to make funny is: Slashdot trolling phenomena in the page you would do everything that is described there. Like widening the page itself to demonstrate how trolls do that and at the same time making fun of it.
Couldn't we have a contest at April's Fools day who can make the funniest vandalism? Oh no, nobody is ever to take Wikipedia serious any more if we do that! :-P (If I'm correct English people make all kind of jokes on April's Fools day, don't they?)
Am I the only one longing to make such funny vandalized pages, although I would never do it? Laudaka 22:52, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Paul/laudaka)
P.S. When I edit Wikipedia I normally do it very seriously. I like most correcting all spelling errors and I will also try to rewrite articles to make them more interesting to read, for example by comparing the weight of a space probe with something familiar like a car, so the dull statistics like weight, time of launch, etc. become more lively. Laudaka 23:01, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Paul/laudaka)
Does anyone know whats the longest period of time a vandalism has remained on Wikipedia ? I recently reverted vandalism made in August 2003 !! or something like that. Need to recheck which article that was. Jay 11:32, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I just screwed up image:Gutenberg.jpg. I uploaded an image of the Gutenberg bible under the same title, then noticed the name conflict and deleted it again. Of course, then all Gutenberg images were gone, so I tried to restore, but it hasn't come back. Does Gutenberg.jpg still exist somewhere? AxelBoldt 22:15, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've been trying to compare versions in the Dungeons & Dragons article by using the spiffy new checkboxes. But after I click the second box, I always get a blank page called "Dungeon" (try it--you'll see). I suspect this is due to the "&" in the title? How do I fix this so I can compare versions? — Frecklefoot 21:29, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Just wondering whether the German copyright terms (70 years after death, I think) apply to German content (eg. a picture of an expressionist painting) we want to use. Or do the onerous American terms apply because the servers are in the US? - snoyes 15:06, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi there,
Please can you help me to find where to buy a liquid crystal "sheet" I am in South Africa if it helps
Regards Ian Woolridge
As someone can see by checking out my user page (or my sig at the end of this post), a lot of Wiki characters are not working. What is going on? →Raul654 01:24, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)
FWIW, the error seems to have fixed itself about 2 hours ago. (The only "special" thing I did was reboot) →Raul654 21:18, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)
Is there anywhere people can sign up to list what languages they are capable of translating? I read quite a few languages, myself, but every so often I am out of my depth. For example, I've translated several articles from the Catalan or Romanian wikipedias, but I'd sure like to have some list of who I might consult when I run into a word that is beyond me to understand. -- Jmabel 01:07, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
So I've gone out on a limb (Be bold!) and created Wikipedia:Translation. Probably this can be improved upon, please come help out! Jmabel 08:33, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I am interested in a printed dictionary of common words concerning all PC-vocabulary. Where can I order this? Is such a book available? Thank you for your answer in advance Yours sincerely,
Renate M. Degenfeld Austria
This is the second time I tried to upload a sound clip and got this message (before the 100k warning, but after the upload appeared to be complete in the progress bar). The upload was apparently unsuccessful this time, though the first time it happened, last night, it did work (IIRC). After getting this message once today, I tried again with the same clip and the same thing happened. Tuf-Kat 19:05, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload
The following error was encountered:
* Write Error
The system returned:
(32) Broken pipe
An error condition occurred while writing to the network. Please retry your request.
Your cache administrator is webmaster. Generated Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:59:03 GMT by wikipedia.org (squid/2.5.STABLE4)
Limit is 7Mb now. -- Gabriel Wicke 22:06, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Is there a list of names of the soldiers who fought on the Plains of Abraham? I am specifically looking for the names of soldiers who came from other countries to join in the fight. Thanks, Jan
Hi!
I was wondering is it possible to download the whole mathematics section? There are so many interesting articles, but it is expensive to be online the whole time. How could I do that, and not use like a recursive wget tool which would surely take me outside the section (because it can tell the difference between Euler and peanut butter sandwitch) ;-)
Thanks
User:Ausir has changed Dior into a disambig page, but alas did so by copy-pasting all text into Dior (Middle-earth). Is it possible to move the edit history for Dior to Dior (Middle-earth)? I've left a (hopefully friendly) note at his user talk page explaining about the 'Move this page' feature. (This was written by user:Darkelf who didn't sign --Sennheiser !)
Spotted on Xinhua, the official Chinese newswire, no less [18]:
Huh? Maybe this is a new explanation for Wikipediholism - it's actually an infectious disease! :-) -- ChrisO 11:46, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Seriously though, I have this odd feeling of deja vu. Has wikipedia ever been incorrectly classified as a virus (im thinking of a possible article on SARS) before? --Sennheiser ! 14:55, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
(this post is by 200.207.163.47 -- Delirium 11:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC))
I just received an e-mail, purporting to have been sent to the English wikipedia mailing list by Jimbo Wales, with the subject line "HI" and containing nothing but a binary attachement for windoze and macs. I know I am just guessing, but maybe this is forged, and contains a virus? Right? -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 09:15, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
If a vandal disrupts a page and you revert it, and the vandal reverts your revert, have restraint and do not revert immediately. The vandal is trying to start a revert war. Do not take the bait. Leave the vandal hanging. Go back in an few hours and THEN revert. It is unlikely that the vandal will still be around.
More times than not, this strategy works. And you can spend your time editing things you want, rather than having your time sucked into a revert war. Kingturtle 06:15, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I upload a sound clip, I always get the "we recommend you don't upload an image over 100k in size" and have to override it each time. Since a 100k sound clip must be a tiny fraction of a second, I venture that there will never be any .ogg files of less than 100k. Do I need to request a feature to have this disabled for .ogg files, or is there a mediawiki page somewhere? Tuf-Kat 05:10, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
I inadvertently messed up my password by click the "Email New Password" button on the login screen. I never received the new password, though I tried several passes, and since my old password is gone, I don't know what to do. My email address was supplied, is this a bug? 24.47.182.47 03:09, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can someone update Wikipedia:Most Wanted Articles. About half of them are created, now. Anthony DiPierro 01:45, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I was just wondering, what constitutes a minor edit, anyway? JB82 23:59, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Can somebody explain to me why the movie City of God is credited with two directors, Kátia Lund and Fernando Meirelles, but only Meirelles has been nominated for the Academy Award? RickK 23:13, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
--> Wikipedia:Village pump/February 2004 archive 1
There should be a verification screen after clicking on "Protect this page" and on "Unprotect this page" that says "Are you sure you want to do this?"
--> Wikipedia:Village pump/February 2004 archive 1
After coming across Kasia Smutniak, I wondered, "is bust size encyclopedic?" That led me to further questiosn like whether or not weight, height, or eye color of model's should be included in wikipedia articles. Anyone have any feelings about this? Sennheiser ! 15:57, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not
I haven't been able to find an answer yet. When it's important to provide translation of words in another language (German: Sprache), what is the standard?
--> Wikipedia talk:Use other languages sparingly
Please have a look at Plants and animals of Belize and help to identify them.
--> Requests for help and comments (above)
Many of the higher level decisions regarding wikipedia are not discussed or made within wikipedia, but are instead discussed and made on the mailing lists.
--> Wikipedia talk:Mailing lists
Anyone know of an elegant way to force a line break between two images using the Extended Image Format?
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
After quite a bit of going back and forth, I think we've finally come to an agreement on the matter of Japanese naming conventions (see the talk page for conclusion and rationale).
--> Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Japanese)
I put a question on here two days ago, and it's already been deleted.
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Village pump
lorrainej55@hotmail.com or lori_lo2003@yahoo.com would like to join a "write to any sailor" scheme.
Should we insert comments before complex infobox tables which appear at the top of the page to tell new users to scroll down to edit the page?
Tonight, I got motivated and scanned the covers of a bunch of books I have, to use in their respective articles. But before I got to all the effort to upload then and put them into their respective articles, I'd just like to make sure that I won't be causing any copyright violations. →Raul654 01:54, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)
--> Requests for help and comments (above)
[19] Wikipedia talk:Porting Vectorsite articles
--> Requests for help and comments (above)
What are the checkboxes that have suddenly started appearing beside items in the Page History lists for? Or am I seeing things? Bmills 14:31, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Page history
--> Requests for help and comments (above)
I erroneously deleted Talk:World War II atrocities and World War II atrocities in Poland. Sorry for screwing up.
The folloiwng should be undone by an admin: Talk:World War II atrocities must be restored, and World War II atrocities in Poland/ Talk:World War II atrocities in Poland deleted.
BTW, could it be a good idea to forbid such kind of page move? Mikkalai 21:17, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
In my year watching Wikipedia I thought I'd seen all variations of edit wars - at religion articles, science/pseudoscience articles, history/politics articles, etc. - but for the last day or so an edit war has been raging at, of all things, Curse of the Bambino! (This is a jokey reference to the inability of Boston's baseball team to win a title.) That's like watching a fistfight over whether Twinkies are tastier than Ho-Hos (if I may be forgiven a USA-centric junk-food joke)
I'm curious: Has anybody else encountered a real, mean-spirited, you-revert-me-so-I-revert-you edit war over a less likely topic? DavidWBrooks 15:38, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I hope this belongs here. If not, please move elsewhere. My question is whether it is possible to modify the following math formula in such a way that the equations in each row are left-aligned:
Thanks for any help. -- Timwi 13:52, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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"?Thanks for all your suggestions, although I'm afraid to say I find none of them satisfactory. I didn't add those "\ "s and "\qquad"s; when I inserted the formula, it was all centered. Thanks for your help anyway. -- Timwi 22:29, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Using matrices to align equations is long-deprecated in the field of mathematics. The standard method is using \begin{align*}, as the user above noted, which is part of the AMS Math package. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not seem to currently support this. -- Delirium 02:04, Feb 14, 2004 (UTC)
Who is the wikipedian who has a hysterical picture of a kitten stuck in a drinking glass on their user page? I stumbled across that and haven't been able to get it out my head and want to show it my friend LouLou. Thanks. jengod 21:25, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
Did the kitten ever get over its hangover? Dieter Simon 00:02, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
With the hardware upgrade still fresh in everyone's mind it seems that moving Wikipedia to some sort of P2P network configuration might be a good idea. This way volunteers could host some articles and as the Wikipedia's user base grows so to does the processing power. Of course there would have to be many redundant copies of each article but that would give lots of bandwidth and fault tolerance. Articles in different languages could actually be hosted in their country or origin which would reduce bandwidth? It would also give P2P networks a legitimate use.
-- Taku 00:00, Feb 14, 2004 (UTC)
I would like to use the images from this awesome university website. Would I be violating copyright? --Ed Senft ! 21:48, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Above all, if one needs mathematical or scientific information, Wikipedia is simply the best, which brought the Web out in the last years. There are to some extent understandable, clear and extensive explanations to (nearly) each topic. Still to it the whole is free. It is fascinating that also in the today's Spam and garbage and troll contaminated Web still another project instructed on voluntariness, self-check and co-operation survive can.
Further so, Wikipedia!
I've spent most of today clicking Random page and have seen a (random, naturally) sample of a couple of hundred articles. Excluding the U. S. places from the census, the following are just a few observations/questions that spring to mind. All comments welcome.
Bmills 16:30, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've come across this article - Oxford Revelation Rock-Gospel Choir but I'm not sure what to do with it, It looks like an advert rather than an encyclopedia article, should it be put on VFD G-Man 23:16, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As a side note to the earlier discussion of book covers and fair use (see Talk:Fair use): I'd like some input on how to caption the covers. Just for expediency's sake, I would caption them with the title of the book. (See Lord of the Flies or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or examples). Fabiform suggested publisher, date. I'd like to know if anyone else has suggestions. →Raul654 08:06, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Is someone going to delete Wilfredo G. Santa or are we going to allow that to sit and rot? Refer to Talk:Wilfredo_G._Santa. Consensus is to delete.-- Jia ng 03:20, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
OK, I deleted the page. I left the Talk page so that people can see how the voting went. RickK 08:03, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Is it possible to add New pages to a watchlist? Bevo 16:51, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This is getting ignored on Manual of Style, so upping its profile by dropping it here...
I saw this is Wikipedia:History:
The following is a formatted reference link for external links and references:
STYLE: Doe, John, "Main page". Wikimedia Foundation, Florida, USA. January 1, 2000.
SOURCE: Last name, First name, "''[http://www.url.org Linked article name]''". Source publisher, Location. [[Month Day]], [[Year]].
Surely this is only the guideline for online resources? According to established Chicago Manual of Style practices, this is incorrect for most published print resources, which generally go something like this:
or
and so forth...
Looking at the article Imperative programming I see that there is some attribution text atop the article that the history comments says should not be removed because it is a "Title Page" required by the GFDL. Is this advice correctly stated? Bevo 01:18, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
From the article talk page
Mav, why did you remove the history and title page text? It's required under the GFDL for making a modified version, in this case from Nupedia. You said "see wikipedia:copyrights", but I can't tell to what you refer. Martin 16:10, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
If so, the point is that just because Wikipedia has a certain interpretation of the GFDL when others use our work, doesn't mean that we're allowed to use the same interpretation of the GFDL when we use the work of others. Now, if the authors of the Nupedia article in question to indicate that they share our interpretation, then that's great. However, if they do not (and they have not yet to date, AFAICT) then we should follow a comparatively strict interpretation to ensure that we are not violating copyright. Martin 16:38, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
If this is, indeed, a requirement, it's going to be impossible to do it by editing every single article and putting it there, and making sure it stays there. It's going to have to be done by the operating system in an section which is not editable. RickK 21:14, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
-> Wikipedia talk:Nupedia and Wikipedia
I am looking for "Emilo" a spanish book published back in 1930s which is currently out of print. Any help?
--> Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)
I propose that the term "sysop" be removed from the Wikipedia lexicon. We already have administrator (short admin), and it is kind of confusing to have both. Not to mention that sysop doesn't really fit the bill, unless you consider Wikipedia a system! I am bringing this up now because of the newly emerged Special:Makesysop seems to be introducing the term sysop even more. I am guessing this would be mostly a search and replace kind of deal, disruptive yes, but is it any more difficult than that? Are the benefits worth it? Dori | Talk 20:15, Feb 16, 2004 (UTC)
Honestly, I just use sysop and admin interchangably. →Raul654 23:05, Feb 16, 2004 (UTC)
Hi Trekkies and other folks enjoying Star Trek!
I'm looking for a say 1 screen transcript of Klingon. From a series or movie of Star Trek. (A part of one of the books in Klingon seems less nice to me.)
It is for an article I'm editing about a special phenomenon that occurs only rarely in languages. Klingon has been made up using this phenomenon because it makes Klingon sound counterintuitive and weird. (Actually a sentence like "Ba'thar destroyed the ship with a photon torpedo" in Klingon becomes "The ship destroyed Ba'thar with a photon torpedo".)
To make the article (actually Object Verb Subject) more lively and to illustrate why this phenomenon is so rare it would be very nice to translate a fairly large piece of Klingon back to English but keeping the higly unusual word order of Klingon.
Where can I find such a transcript, preferably with extended translation annotations? I'm thinking of having a look at the Star Trek WikiWiki, but I really haven't a clue where to look else for this. BTW (by the way) if someone wants to make such a quasi-translation himself I'd really welcome that as I'm absolutely not familiar in Klingon and I have a hard time writing new text. Editing and copyediting text is much easier for me, so I can help extensively with such a translation.
I think it's nicest to use some Klingon text that people might have seen already on tv or could rent a video of (then the movies would be best). In this way I think it's also appealing for people that are not die-hard Trekkers but interested in language, or are just curious. (And reading Wikipedia for it's entertainment value, like I do File:Http://home.wanadoo.nl/laudako/tongue.gif Paul/laudaka (add me to your Y!M/AIM/etc. list if you like!) | Talk 16:41, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
--> User talk:Jengod
The movie seabiscuit, was stupid you people went way out of your way to pretend that seabiscuit was a born & Bred horse from Canada,mexico,Washington,california,any... place, but where it really came from..KY
I'm tired of people posting fotos using the <div> tag. This format is extremely hostile to older browsers, and results in people who use older systems to explore wikipedia finding it unpleasant and unusable and not coming back. The <img> tag is perfectly adequate for the wikipedia and is friendly to just about every browser out there. Myself, I usually use Netscape 4.7, but I can no longer use it on graphics-containing wikipedia pages, forcing me to open Mozilla 1.6, which badly bogs down my antiquated computer and forces me to spend about three times as much time on-line to do the same thing. BTW, the Bomis Browser version I have won't handle the <div> stuff very well, either. jaknouse 18:06, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
In your report you state that the Bathyscaphe Triest reached the bottom of Challenger deep. If this is indeed the case and all that was found where sole,shrimp and carp. Then what where the demensions at the bottom. Was there a shelf of any sort. Where there any tunnels or shafts? Was the entire bottom covered in a silt? Any rocks or other such matter?
I would appreciate if you or a representative would write back to me at b_m_hacking@hotmail.com
Edit wars II and (poposed) III. How to avoid them ?
It seems that phase two of the iridology page edit wars will rage again
The declaration of war reads like this:
My question is how to bring calm and serenity in David and Theresa, how to protect information, how to encourage them to always resort to documents in the talk page and (gasp) for myself - how to ignore the police alert attitude as put in evidence above outside the village pump? TIA - irismeister 19:52, 2004 Feb 19 (UTC)
He keeps creating articles with basically no content. I don't know if I want to add him to Conflicts between users(im afraid of hurting his fealings), but this little bugger is getting on my nerves. It seems as if he is a 6-8 year old with an overactive imagination (the kind of child who gets pummelled in the school yard). I don't know if he understands how to login. (he usually edits as 67.60.27.122. He also keeps asking to be an admin, and has this misconecption that he will become one soon as long as he keeps pestering others and promises to create "en.wiktionary.org" and bots that translate things. He seems to be a problem at wiktionary(i don't contribute there so I cant say). Pumpie also keeps creating articles about HMS's which have basically no content. He has repeatedly been asked to include a stub message, but he seems unable to grasp the simple concept. Look at the article HMS Hermione, for an example of the kind of articles he creates. (this was created today and he wasn't even logged in) (notice it says "HMS Amazon" instead of Hermione). As I said, I am weary about adding him to the conflict page, but I don't know what else to do. --Ed Senft ! 23:22, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Umm, I tried to load the main page via my usual link, and got this: "If you've gotten here, you're either having DNS trouble or you've followed some sort of invalid link.
Please see wikimedia.org for links to Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects.
Note that the address for www.wikipedia.org should be 130.94.122.199. This server is 130.94.122.197. If you thought you were coming to www.wikipedia.org, you're in the wrong place!"
Is this really my fault?" Surely www.wikipedia.org should get me to wikipedia!!! Graham 10:14, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
After an edit war between Anthony DiPierro and Wik over VfD, that page was protected. Apparently recognising the inconvenience of an edit war on VfD, or the protection of this extremely heavily edited page, they both made comments suggesting the acceptability of a temporary mutual ban. Wik said in an edit summary:
And Anthony said on IRC:
So I did it, and unprotected VfD. -- Tim Starling 02:38, Feb 13, 2004 (UTC)
I'm trying to edit this and just get a blank window, so not sure how this will post. I just uploaded: image:divshot1.jpg image:divshot2.jpg image:divshot3.jpg as examples of what happens when viewing div tags on Netscape 4.7 (the page shown is Oak). In fact, the pump grafik at the top of the Village Pump page floats ON TOP of much of the text! jaknouse 01:07, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello all, this is just a friendly reminder about trolls. As Wikipedia increases in coverage, so too increases the meddling of trolls. There are times when it seems like trolls are everywhere, and it becomes a game (of sorts) to catch, nab or name the little buggers. It is in such moments that people begin to be overly suspicious of the actions of newcomers. Our trust in newcomers diminishes. Once distrust supercedes trust in a community, it is difficult to reverse the change. Let's not let that happen to Wikipedia. The project depends on a strong, friendly community. Build the database and build the community, too.
I realize you are all working hard at building our community. This messages is not to insult you or scold you. It is just a reminder. Welcome newcomers. Don't be overly suspicious of the actions of newcomers. Speak softly.
But carry a big stick, Kingturtle 04:20, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Edit wars II and (as proposed below) III. How to avoid them ?
It seems that phase two of the iridology page edit wars will rage again
The declaration of war reads like this:
My question is how to bring calm and serenity in David and Theresa, how to protect information, how to encourage them to always resort to documents in the talk page and (gasp) for myself - how to ignore the police alert attitude as put in evidence above outside the village pump? TIA - irismeister 19:52, 2004 Feb 19 (UTC)
This page contains discussions that have been archived from Village pump. Please do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to revive any of these discussions, either start a new thread or use the talk page associated with that topic.
< Older discussions · Archives: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, AA, AB, AC, AD, AE, AF, AG, AH, AI, AJ, AK, AL, AM, AN, AO, AP, AQ, AR, AS, AT, AU
If this agency is "inter-govermental" how can it claim copyright? Sennheiser 15:32, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've just been sent a wonderful quicktime panorama photograph (.mov format) from the person who gave permission for his two photographs on Tamar Bridge to be used. I really want to upload a flattened-out jpeg of the image. Is there any good way to convert this type of file into a jpg? The only thought I've had is that I could take several screenshots and lace them together. Replies to my talk page please, any help appreciated! Cheers, fabiform | talk 09:10, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser resized the original File:Lockmart.JPG. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
Sennheiser resized the original media:Lockmart.JPG. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
-> meta:Talk:Anonymous users should not be allowed to edit articles
-> Wikipedia talk:Celebrating 200,000
Sennheiser asks about Government's copyrights. Moved to Wikipedia talk:copyright.
Adam requests help with the new image feature. Moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax.
-> wikipedia:ignored feature requests. Do not raise bug reports or suggest features here.
-> Wikipedia talk:Make only links relevant to the context
Running down the new recent changes by anon users page reveals all manner of articles in need of wikification or other loving care and attention. I urge all Wikipedians to make time each day to review this list. Elde 03:17, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
...I was just looking at Microsoft...it seems the software just isn't accepting ku as a proper language... - IMSoP 17:00, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
-> Talk:Slashdot trolling phenomena
This bug has been squashed. Thanks!
Search and edit bugs seem to be fixed. Thanks for the feedback!
--> Wikipedia talk:Village pump
Fixed, thanks for the notice. -- Brion 07:15, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Yesterday I wrote an article on Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear engineer. I uploaded it shortly before 8pm UTC. Only 16 hours later, it's already received a variety of useful edits from seven other editors. I think this is amazing - Wikipedia's editing community is incredibly responsive. It's a great tool, but it's the energy and enthusiasm of the contributors, so visible in this instance, which have made it so successful. Long may it continue. :-) -- ChrisO 13:01, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have deleted
Transient 3 4 5 times today. Why does it keep coming back?
Bmills 12:38, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Kill the squid, developers! -- till we *) 14:58, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser reccommends that the developers of Wikipedia and those who are pessimistic about squid read these two excellent O'Reilly articles concerning caching: [3] [4] Also look at this ad for the Web Caching O'reilly book: [5]
Sennheiser did a cachability test on this village pump and has posted his results.
Sennheiser resized the original [6]. When he uploaded it, he realized that he had compressed it too much however. He decided to download the old one and save as a png instead, but the image is gone!
Sennheiser points out a problem with the new image resize feature. Please see Igor Kurchatov to fully understand the problem.
ChrisO praises wikipedia and its editors/memebers. :)
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiLove
Help, please, with putting 5 pics in a column on the page. In
Sistine Chapel I need to know the new code to put the 5 pics in the same vertical arrangement as you see on the page now.
Thanks.
Adrian Pingstone 11:18, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
<div style="float:right; margin-left:10px; margin-right:10px; width:200px; text-align:center"> [[image:sistine.chapel.entire.500pix.jpg|200px|none|thumb|''The interior of the Sistine Chapel'']]
Sometimes Sennheiser talks in the third person. I recently got a note on my talk page from User:RickK. He told Sennheiser that this annoyed him. Sennheiser posted a reply to ricks page, [7] but he called it nonsense and deleted. Does the majority agree with Rickk? If so, I might be able to curtail my use of the 3rd person. (see I tried!) Sennheiser 04:14, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I stumbled over this at special:Specialpages... is there anyone with this access yet? Or is it a new thing? Just curious. Pakaran . 03:58, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Brilliant pictures candidates is being ignored. Should it be merged with featured article candidates since this gets a reasonable number of people checking it? Example: Snoyes nominated someone else's image on 19 Nov 2003, there have been no comments/objections, but it's still sitting on Brilliant pictures candidates over two months later. By the way there are only 7 candidates in total at the moment (1 nomination, 6 self-nominations). fabiform | talk 20:47, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have created a table template for albums. Two examples can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. Your comments are welcome. Somebody who knows how to use the table syntax should make it look better. -- [Presumably Tuf-Kat]
Is this the place to suggest that rocks & minerals should have standard tables like those currently used for, for example, birds and dogs (e.g., Whippet)? I've got a sample of a rock and a mineral on my user page. Elf 20:19, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC) Comments?
Part, but not all, of Ugly Rumours appears to be copied from here, and I suspect that the source may be more tongue-in-cheek than firm fact. Now I don't want to blank the non-copied content with the copyvio message. What's the best thing to do? Bmills 13:45, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What album were The Eagles writing/recording when they occupied a beach house in Encinitas, Calif. in the early 1970's?
Anetra Wright 2-4-04
email address: oceanita@juno.com
What album were The Eagles writing/recording when occupying a beach house in Encinitas, Calif. in the early 1970's?
I WAS WONDERING IF THERE HAS BEEN A FAMILY GENEALOGY DONE ON MR. CLARK. AND IF SO CAN IT BE SEEN ON THE INTERNET OR OBTAINED/ THANKS CAROLYN CLARK
Since the last day or two, Wikipedia has become very buggy on Mozilla 1.6 (Mac 10.3). Right now and occasionally on other pages, I see the outline to part of a large grid in the upper left-hand corner of the screen (appears here, in the edit window, and on the displayed pump). The grid seems to be the normally invisible lines in between the sections of links on the left side of the page, but extended outward into the edit window and title. I also keep getting "connection was refused" and timeout errors, and sometimes pages just do not load, with no error message at all. About half the time I try to load a page, it doesn't appear. Tuf-Kat 20:57, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Currently when I check in a page edit, I'm getting back the pre-edit version; I have to do a shift-Reload on the browser (Mozilla) to get the correct version. Without expertise in writing http handlers, I'd guess that the server used to send the updated version with a command to override cached versions, but now the order to override is omitted. Of course, my browser (Mozilla) and my proxy servers have not changed at all. Has a new and better server gone in with, this little difference in prograBUser:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 04:51, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Probably a dumb question, but why is it that text that I can see in the history of this page is not visible in the page itself (e.g. Adam Carr's lates addition)? Bmills 10:52, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
(moved to meta:Cache bugs#VP text not appearing
What's a good rule of thumb for the quality and accurateness of an image for adding it to an article. I've been in a series of debates and disputes about a certain user's images which I feel are not encyclopedic in nature. (See talk:yeti and talk:paranthropus for instance.) - UtherSRG 02:20, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Bold textCould you tell me if Mr. Wesley Clark could possibly be the same person who gave a talk at the Naval Air Station, Memphis, TN. in the late 70's? Thank you.
Copied from the reference desk because (a) my question pertains to Wikipedia itself, and (b) this page has a whole lot more viewers than the reference desk →Raul654
I'm having a strange problem when uploading images... (please tell me what I'm doing wrong!). I tweaked a diagram that I had drawn and previously uploaded to wikipedia. I saved the new version on my computer with an indentical file name to the original, and then uploaded it (with the intention of replacing the old version with the new one). Well the image file history does make it look like I've replaced the picture, but in fact it's the old version which shows (even after a shift-refresh). Have a look here: Image:Disposable menstrual diaphragm inserted.png (sorry about the subject matter!). The diaphragm should be two different shades of purple, like this image: Image:Disposable_menstrual_cup_inserted.png. fabiform | talk 22:59, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Something's wrong. All page moves that I have done recently has timed out or resulted in a blank page while the rest of WP is speedy enough. BL 01:58, Feb 4, 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I just tried to delete User:GenePoole/Self-aggrandizement, an obnoxious page that Wik had created, and move it back to George Francis Cruickshank, but somehow, the delete/move got timed out and now we don't have the George Francis Cruickshank data anywhere. Can somebody help me to get it back? RickK 04:05, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have an idea. first, read the article on Preference_voting before going on. now, here's the idea when its mathematically impossible for someone to win, drop them! for example: <html>
Laura | 30 votes |
Billy | 20 votes |
Abu | 15 votes |
Boris | 5 votes |
Lee | 2 votes |
Shelia | 1 vote |
</html>
now, in this example, even if we drop both Shelia, AND Lee, and even if all of their voters vote for Boris, there is no way that Boris can over-take Abu.
I like this idea, but as far as I know its not the law anywhere, though it should be.
I'd like to add to some pages this idea, but am not sure how to do it. I'd like to name this idea after myself of course ;)
Pellaken 02:40, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
oh, please respond in my talk page if you have anything 'major' to say, as I am liable to forget about this
Have a look at What Wikipedia entries are not, especially point number nine, Personal essays, and ten, Primary research. But, if on the other hand the system has been tried, then the system used in this trial could be the subject of an article or a section, together with details of how it worked or didn't. Andrewa 03:16, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Ok, let me clarify the above - he is the first person to actually propose doing it intentionally. The 1984 presidental election was an accident. His idea is definietely original and (as such) definetely does not belong here. →Raul654 03:17, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
ok... I have NO clue what the hack raul is talking about. this has nothing to do with the american electoral system, less with the electoral college, and much less then anything involving time zones. Either way, I was basacally looking if I could add this, as a logical alternative, to preferential balloting articles. for example: 'some people think blah blah blah' etc. If not that's cool, but I think it deserves a mention. Pellaken 03:59, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I just had a strange experience and I wonder if anyone else has had the same. I use Mozilla for browsing Wikipedia, and I have saved my User Page, Recent Changes and Watchlist as a group, so I click one button when I start Mozilla and all three pages come up (kind of) simultaneously. Well just now I did this, and whilst my User Page came up fine, the other two swore blind that I was no longer logged in. Is this some sort of strange cookie behaviour or is there a different explanation? (BTW rather faster today than yesterday it seems) -- Phil 09:40, Feb 3, 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser recognizes this Squid problem and suggests the developers look at this squid documentation page.
We have a user, Shaheen Lakhan ( User:slakhan), who appears to be notable enough to warrant an article. Since doing an autobiography is discouraged, could someone please take up the task of creating such a page? (I would do it myself, but I am very pressed for time these days...). - Anthropos 05:15, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Why do I have difficulty loading Recent changes and the page histories? I remember an announcement saying hardware problems would be over by the end of January? (I won't ask why it's me again and no one else who asks these questions.) <KF> 23:56, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There is definitely something strange going on this morning. I keep being told that pages don't exist and that edits can't be saved. There do seem to be a lot of bugs in the system recently. Adam 23:59, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can someone explain "squid" and "slashdot" to non-technopersons? Adam 00:52, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hmm. Twice now I've tried to delete a few paragraphis from Laocoon and his Sons (having already pasted them into Laocoon. Both times the deletion worked fine, but when I try to view the page (using the link on Laocoon, for example) my browser says "file not found" - note that it's not an HTTP (apache/squid or whatever) error. Is anyone else having weird save problems in other places (if so, well, you're probably not reading this!). If not, could someone go over to Laocoon and his Sons and see if the same thing happens to them as happens here. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:34, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Vitamin-S, fringe science or real science, YOU be the judge! Seriously though, is there any validity to this article? At the very least, the language needs a touch-up to be more encyclopedic (whatever that means).
While we're at it, can someone please write an article on fringe science? I'll also add it to the list of articles that need creating, but hey, as long as I'm here... -- Dante Alighieri 19:16, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There was an article about Aspirin as "Vitamin S" in New Scientist this week. Evercat 02:11, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I, Sennheiser, have found an amazingly complete and detailed public domain site which has (long) articles about everything from SETI to the American Civil War. These articles are written by Greg Goebel, and many include diagrams created by Goebel (public domain). Sennheiser !
Hi Dori: Forgive me if I chuckling a little bit, but Wikipedia hacks have ported about a dozen of my works to the Wiki and I've been corresponding with them for some time. However, I'm not unhappy to get in touch with you because I've been a little frustrated in my dealings with Wiki hacks -- not because they've been unkind to me (quite the opposite!) but because they haven't taken as much advantage of me as I am willing to give them. I don't want to monkey with the Wiki myself directly, since working on my site is enough of a job, but I would like to extend a standing invitation to Wiki hacks that I am willing to: % Consider requests, particularly if they are something close to what I am already doing. % Abridge or provide outlines of my documents, this being much easier for me to do than somebody else since I have my brain wrapped around them already. % Extract elements from larger documents and convert them into stand-along documents -- for example, say, yanking the story of the Battle of Gettysburg from my oversized Civil War history and turning it into a stand-alone item. I must say I am impressed that the Wiki seems to maintain surprisingly high standards of quality for a contribution based system. I suspect that a good review system is the key. PS: As a kindly-meant and minor suggestion, you might try more specific titles than simply "Hi". I opened up the email expecting it to be pornographic spam ... Nice chatting ... Greg Goebel
I think some of the editors interested in the subjects covered in the site should contact Greg and cooperate to bring some of that information into Wikipedia. Perhaps we should create a cooperation page to track this. Dori | Talk 17:03, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
He seems very nice. I have created a Short Sunderland, mostly from his article, but I did add pictures of each mark(it took a while to find an image of each different version, and they were hard to tell apart). Since he releases his work in the public domain, he gives away his work without any expectation that he will get credit. (i did, however, give him credit in the article I created) Sennheiser ! 17:11, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've been sitting on this for a few days, thinking it might resolve itself, but to no avail. I want to see Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, but it's ancient (an update would be appreciated), with a redirect to http://download.wikimedia.org/wikistats/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#Wikipedians. The link is broken, however. →Raul654 09:18, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
While some pages on Iraq will need some time to be fully updated, I think we can safely gut Military of Iraq as the chance of it being accurate ever again are just about nil. -- Dante Alighieri 07:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Looking at the list of contributions for User:SuperBee, I discovered an article called (Yerzoplazistonian) Civil War Civil War. When I click on it, it takes me to an empty article. The article is not nonexistant, it doesn't come up as an article to be created, it's there, though empty. I can click on the "Discuss this page" and get into an edit to create a Talk page. But there's no "Delete this page" link. How can we get rid of this? RickK 02:18, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
After seeing color in parts of other user's signatures, Sennheiser attempted to make the exclamation mark talk page link(see User:Sennheiser#Sennheiser's Decision to use ! instead of . for the link to his talk page) in his signature black. Obviously he failed in implementing this feature. Any suggestions? Sennheiser ! 01:31, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
<a><font></font></a>
rather than <font><a></a></font>
. [[foo|<font color="magenta">bar</font>]]->
bar. But I agree that it's better to use bold, especially since you could potentially break someone's custom colourscheme if you specify absolute colours. -
IMSoP 02:14, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)Absolute colours are evil, particulary around links. Please use bold, italic, etc instead. Martin 20:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Fabiform panics when a cached copy of an image is briefly shown. fabiform | talk 22:59, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I am a newcommer and am very impressed with this fantastic collective Free Encyclopedia. I would be honnored to make contributions to it, graphics wise, but first I need to now if the format I use and specialize in is suitable for your programm scince I have not seen it in the list of requested formats.
I work with SWF format, wich is a open format. My original technical illustrations and animations uses vectors wich produces very light weight files for fast downloads.
Here is an example showing the innerworkings of a Manual Transmission. It is fully interactive and make only 37K. A single picture (still) would be at around only 2K. http://www3.lino.sympatico.ca/geebee/custom/transmis.htm
I also produce JPGs and PNGs , but mostly I do in SWF because of vectors been so light.
If you find the format acceptable, then I would be happy to contribute as much as I can. I have many already done and some of the requests I see here I can produce quite easily and to top quality.
Best regards, and bravo for this wonderfull project that is, in my opinion, totally in tune with the real nature and purpose of the Internet.
geebee@lino.sympatico.ca
Question about whether he spoke in Tennessee in the 70s: already at Wikipedia:Reference desk.
Hello, I'm looking to exchange links with your site I will place a link to your site from ours [9]. Please let me know if this is possible Regards, Matt
Given how big a deal this seems when I read the news articles about it, maybe we should have an article on it? See current events. -- Dante Alighieri 18:39, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've added a bit to the current events page and beefed up the article on screeners, but I think we should have a page on Carmine Caridi. Any takers? -- Dante Alighieri 18:39, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I was just browsing the 'pedia and I came across the following articles, Homo erectus soloensis and Homo erectus meganthropus. I know a bit about the Homo genus and hadn't heard of these guys before. Can anyone with more expertise than myself help determine if these articles reflect consensus views on the subject or are, rather, fringe science? Thanks. -- Dante Alighieri 18:33, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As of November 7th, 2003, Google references 60,300 back-links to us... now its "about 73,700". We're going up quickly, I must say. --- user:zanimum
I've reformatted the Stratocaster article using the Wikipedia:Extended image syntax and the image captions have disappeared. Can someone please tell me what I've done wrong? They are quite important to the article. Andrewa 15:49, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Zagreb states it was invented by Slavoljub Penkala which article states he invented an automatic pencil. Ballpoint pen states it was invented by Laszlo Biro -- SGBailey 2004-02-05
Is it just me, or is Recent Changes not updating? Mine is stuck at 14:10. Bmills 14:47, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have just re-written Wikipedia:Articles requested for over two years to give pointers to what the requested articles should be about. With a little vim from a user or two we could clear this list today! Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 11:07, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Trivial thing... but when I go to the front page the "you have messages" link is shown. But I don't, I've visited my talk page, checked the page history, refreshed the front page etc, but the message remains. Is this something to so with the squid that has recently been employed at wiki-central? I remember someone saying that he was caching pages. ;) fabiform | talk 09:48, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
What gives? It has been nearly a day since the last post was archived on the mailing lists. [11] -- mav 09:05, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm starting a Wikipedia:Favorite quotes page, because, well... I think there ought be one. My justification is that we already have a "Brilliant prose" page, and that a favorite quotes page is a good way to link to internal debates that were memorable, and should be read by people, rather than buried so that the issues would flame up again. T'will be done. - 戴眩sv 08:29, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I have registered wikipedia.org.uk, and set it to forward to http://en.wikipedia.org. The forwarding only seems to be successful on the main page.
If anyone from wikipedia admin would like me to assign the site to them, please let me know. -- Chris Q 07:36, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
With an Apache redirect directive either in an .htaccess file or in the httpd.conf it should work for the subpages as well. Example:
Redirect / http://en.wikipedia.org/
If this doesn't work http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue61/nielsen2.html should have a solution. Gabriel Wicke 12:23, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I live in the jungle of Belize, Central America. I am well educated but not knowledgeable about correct names of various plants and animals I take picutres of. I take pictures of what intrest me and have a large collection but no ideal of prper names. I know the pictures would enhance wikipedia but don't know how to post em properly. For example I have on of a multicolore lizard have no Ideal of it's scientific name so can't post it. General stuff I can do like pictures of goverment buildings, villages, and such and I have started doing so. I also will take pics by request if you explain what you want. Also what is the approriate size / resoultion for post? I use a 4 mega pixil digital camera at it's highest rez, and a 35mm SLR film camera. Belizian 07:32, 2004 Feb 5 (UTC)
Question about what album they were writing; moved to Wikipedia:Reference Desk
Request for genealogical information for "MR CLARK"; moved to Wikipedia:Reference Desk
I'm not as much of a regular as I used to be around here so didn't notice he'd gone. Is he on holiday/gone cold turkey/coming back? If someone knows could they drop me a line on my talk page (to save space here) and delete this section if they think it won't be of interest to others? Cheers -- Ams80 19:54, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
An example is http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tic-tac-toe , which is a transparent clone of Tic-tac-toe. What is going to be done about this?
I wonder what made FUnaba (redirect page) apepars three times in "What links here" of Funabashi, Chiba. Is this need some fix? If so, how can it be fixed?
Thanks. I failed to find a description of this problem in FAQ.
Dear Sir / Ms., Hello!
We would be happy if you could give link of our website www.gandhi-manibhavan.org in your website.
Herewith, we are sending you the brief description of our Museum and Website for your information.
URL of the website : http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org
Description : Mani Bhavan is the place where Gandhi stayed from 1917 to 1934, whenever he was in Mumbai. It was from here that Gandhi initiated Civil Disobedience, Swadeshi, Khadi and Khilafat Movements. The house is now converted into a Museum. The website of Mani Bhavan Gandhi Sangrahalaya provides extensive information on Gandhi and his views, the books read by Gandhi, Gandhi's original voice, his personal documents, anecdotes, ashram prayers, photographs etc.....
To reciprocate, we will give link of your website in our related website on Gandhi. Please inform us when you add our link.
Thank you in advance.
With warm regards,
Mani Bhavan Gandhi Sangrahalaya 19 Laburnum Road, Gamdevi, Mumbai - 400 007, India Tel. No. +91-22-2380 5864 / 2380 8218 Fax No. +91-22-23806239 Email: info@gandhi-manibhavan.org
Kindly visit our most comprehensive and regularly updated website: www.gandhi-manibhavan.org and send us your comments and suggestions to make more user friendly
At least in my prefered browser Opera, the "thumb" function for images seems not to be producing the desired results. The smaller version of the pic is in the article all right, but the little "enlarge" icon is seldom anywhere near the pic, sometimes paragraphs away, often over irrelevent text. Could we please stop converting images to this new system until it works better? Thanks, -- Infrogmation 05:47, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Sennheiser will sign his posts at the end in future. (Sorry for cutting so soon, but the page is still too long).
Discussion moved to User talk:Sennheiser
See FAQ at the top of page.
Hi, what is your opinion of the most accurate Greek to modern English translation of New Testament to date ? And where may I purchase it ? Thanks, RustY Haynes hayneshunting@bellsouth.net
We need a category of non-sysop users who are allowed to view deleted articles. Anthony DiPierro 00:18, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy
We don't seem to be in the habit of putting See Also links in our articles. Isn't it common practice in paper encyclopedias to have a See Also section right under the article title?
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Lists (embedded lists)
I created Wikipedia talk:Taxoboxes and beyond to centralize discussion regarding the taxobox-style tables present on articles.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Taxobox
You can't use " in the new thumbnail captions, use ' instead.
Moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
Sennheiser notes that Google's logo today includes fractals and links to an image search of "julia fractals". Practically every site in the results has been slashdotted. (::evil grin::) Sennheiser suggests that we take this opportunity to improve our fractal articles. The AOTD has been set to Fractal. [12]
ChrisO praises wikipedia and its editors/members. :)
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiLove
Hi folks. There's a fix going in for the problem with the empty space after ==Titles== being dependent on whether there's a empty line or not after the title. So, I need to know which you'd prefer as the standard behaviour for titles.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:How to edit a page
Wikipedia:What is an article states that there is no means at present of automatically determining disambiguation pages. Could this be done by detecting the presence of the {{msg:disambig}} metatag-thing? -- SGBailey 11:40, 2004 Feb 3 (UTC)
Trying to determine my ethnic group -> Reference Desk
--> taken to Wikipedia:Reference desk
I just noticed the article for transient. It seems strange and off topic. Did the author know more than I do, or does the article need a rewrite? - Pingveno 03:30, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I don't know enough Chinese to go to the Chinese pages and figure out how to correct this, but the main "Traditional Chinese" page contains Simplified Chinese text, and vice versa.
Wha? Specific example? -- Jia ng
Well, how do i do it? The Knights of Pythias was founded on February 19, 1864, so we gotta jump on this.
Here's a little gem that a friend found and tossed my way. Let's just not all use it on Wikipedia.org or else we'll be in even worse shape. :) Graphical Google Browser
-- Dante Alighieri 00:45, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
[13] ker-boom -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:42, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured pictures candidates is being ignored. Should it be merged with featured article candidates since this gets a reasonable number of people checking it? Example: Snoyes nominated someone else's image on 19 Nov 2003, there have been no comments/objections, but it's still sitting on Brilliant pictures candidates over two months later. By the way there are only 7 candidates in total at the moment (1 nomination, 6 self-nominations). fabiform | talk 20:47, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
There's a renegade table tag on the main page. jengod 18:32, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Help, please, with putting 5 pics in a column on the page.
Discussion (with answer) moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
There is now acres of white space next to the picture at the top of this page (at least on my not-excessively-high-res screen).
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
I DO love the new features in this vision of new wiki. it's fantastic! -- Yacht ( Talk) Q 01:30, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)
Apologies if this isn't the correct place to ask, but I have a question about the entries for towns and cities. I have looked at dozens of small towns and cities and it seems that all have nothing more than the type of information that is available in an almanac. Is this intentional or simply because no one has added other things? As for example history of the area, current conditions, etc.
I was wondering [pardon if this isn't the right place] ... if I look up "wikipedia.org" IP @ DNSstuff ... I get 130.94.122.199 ... but when I navigate to 130.94.122.199 I get the followin msg "Note that the address for www.wikipedia.org should be 130.94.122.199. This server is 130.94.122.197" ... could anyone tell me what the problem is? Sincerely, JDR
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Taxobox
For an article count updated rougly every 5-15 seconds, see #enrc.wikipedia on irc.freenode.net -- Tim Starling 14:49, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)
Could someone please check the table on my sandbox? I'm trying to switch from using HTML to the wiki code and am not sure I've got the hang of it yet. Thanks -- sannse 12:40, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
See the Village pump is overpopulated section in Wikipedia talk:Village pump or click here: [14] for a discussion on how to keep VP small and usable. Optim 18:19, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Earlier I removed the synopsis of the Harry Potter series from Harry Potter to Harry Potter (plot) in order to remove the spoilers from the main article.
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Warn readers about spoilers
This was the incorrect place to move the article to. It was a question about the massive duplication and obvious fan-based content (i.e. the summary of book 2 which would take nearly 20 minutes to read!) I will see if I can find a better place for it - suggestions would be appreciated. -- HappyDog 18:33, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I try to get to the article on Transvaal, it gives a blank page. Same thing happened yesterday...
The page is still in Google's archive though.
Has there been a discussion about the target reading level that we are aiming for? I see a wide range in the articles. I've watched many articles start out understandable by a layman but end up so qualified and academic that only a scholar already in the field can make sense of it. Rossami 21:51, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
The "Usage Statistics" page displays an empty apache page (since Jan. 28th at least)... Maybe because of recent server problems? Why not insert some dummy page?
Moreover, the display of the empty directory is bad from a security point of view: directory listings should be disabled in Apache's httpd.conf.
Lapinou 20:35, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)
This topic came up in the infobox discussion, but I thought it warranted mentioning or discussing here:
For new wiki users trying to edit existing content, the table formatting is intimidating since it appears at the beginning of the entry and might scroll down a long way. ESPECIALLY so since we're now trying to use the wiki markup instead of HTML, so even experienced web users could easily be confused.
Should we suggest that, in all cases where there are tables, there should be a leading a comment (how do you do that in wiki--same as in HTML?) that says something like "This page starts with notation for the table displayed on the page. Scroll down to where the main article text begins"? Elf 04:25, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hey, in the spirit of the Super Bowl happenings et. all, how about if we go Britney Spears- Janet Jackson- Dennis Rodmanesque and call ourselves Wikipedia, the kickas* encyclopedia instead of wikipedia, the free encyclopedia?..LOL Just a comment to light it up a little but wouldnt it be funny if we could do that? LOL
Antonio The Wikipedia Crazy Resident Martin
Seems to be working again -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 03:39, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
A division of the Miniseries of Information
I recently attempted to make a table at U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004 (superseding a previous one). The table itself has come out okay, but always seems to be put at the very end of the document when the page is viewed (it's supposed to appear part-way through). I've looked at the code several times, but I can't find out why this happens. Is there anyone knowledgable about such things who can tell me where I've messed up? Thanks. -- Vardion 03:17, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can some sysop please delete George Francis Cruickshank? The VfD vote was 77.8% to delete, yet Angela just moved it to the talk page. -- Wik 20:12, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
(the above was by 200.207.163.47 -- Delirium 11:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC))
I was thinking about creating a script to count contributions to wikipedia. I don't want to reinvent the wheel, however. Has anyone done this already? If one of you already has, could you send it to edwardsenft@yahoo.com? If not, feel free to ask me for a copy once I finish it. Sennheiser ! 15:42, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Spotted on Xinhua, the official Chinese newswire, no less:
Huh? Maybe this is a new explanation for Wikipediholism - it's actually an infectious disease! :-) -- ChrisO 11:46, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
A Community Information page
HI there, I am very intersted in setting up a link or affiliate with your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara pages. I have a site that sells only Che Guevara items and I am in the process of setting up affiliates. I am very interested in working with you. Please let me know if your interested. Sincerely Johnnyhavana www.theCHEstore.com
How comes that older revisions of images are no longer accessible. On the image description page, only the link to the current revision works, while the links to previous revisions give a 404. Are the older revisions lost, or is the link just pointing to the wrong location? I remember that last time I used that link (months ago) they worked. andy 20:39, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
--> Talk:George Francis Cruickshank
Plants and animals of Belize is in serious need of help. Since it's nothing but images at the moment, the formatting has become darn near impossible. Can someone who knows about these things PLEASE throw them into a table... preferrably one that's easy (read easy for people who don't know about tables) to add to? Thanks. -- Dante Alighieri 19:58, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
where do software suggestions go?
There should be a verification screen after clicking on "Protect this page" and on "Unprotect this page" that says "Are you sure you want to do this?" The protection button is right next to commonly used buttons, and once in a while the mouse misses the intended target. Kingturtle 16:39, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Please have a look at Wikipedia:Unidentified flowers for some pretty pictures and see if you can help identify them. These were taken by Belizian, and I felt the page should be advertized a bit more so I am posting it here. Dori | Talk 05:02, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
I put a question on here two days ago, and it's already been deleted. I had to dig through the history to find out that somebody had responded to it. I realize that the Pump is a busy place, but please give the people who post questions at least a couple of days to read the responses before you delete things! RickK 01:50, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I want to buy a Grokker, robot spider or crawler that will datamine internet WWW sites for all the trade boards such as
Alibaba.com chinalocator.com businesfinder.comebigchina.com china_excite.com ec21.com euro-trade.net
An estimated 20,000 such sites exist on the WWW all it needs to do is gather the URLs and then
The spider should also automatically register/enroll/list a company at each of the trade boards with, name, address, tel, fax, email, URL, by product category and its products together with graphic files at each trade board
Is such software available on the market?
Dr. Peter Palms PhD Palms & Company, Inc. Palms Harbour Lights Building, Suite 203 515lake Street South Kirkland (seattle), Washington State USA 98033 Tel 1 425 828 6774 Fax 1 425 827 5528 Email: Grokker@Peterpalms.com WWW: Peterpalms.com
"Please note that the Wikipedia database will be locked for read-only access from 8 February 05:00 UTC = 9pm PST, midnight EST, 5am GMT, 6am CET. This should only last for a couple of hours, and is necessary to allow a major system upgrade."
Ooh, new servers? I've already saved some wikiwork to do in the donwtime. :) fabiform | talk 22:16, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I tried to upload something, I got
Morwen 12:35, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)
please help if you can im trying to see if I can be on a list I dont know if you have it its called write to any sailor?? I know I use to write to people before on a diffrent ship and was wondering if you did the same thing or knew how to get ahold of someone who did?? please let me know lorrainej55@hotmail.com or lori_lo2003@yahoo.com thank you
An official Navy response to such requests can be found here. There are two specific programs available for Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. Jamesday 10:04, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This topic came up in the Infobox discussion, but I thought it warranted mentioning or discussing here:
For new wiki users trying to edit existing content, the table formatting is intimidating since it appears at the beginning of the entry and might scroll down a long way. ESPECIALLY so since we're now trying to use the wiki markup instead of HTML, so even experienced web users could easily be confused.
Should we suggest that, in all cases where there are tables, there should be a leading a comment (how do you do that in wiki--same as in HTML?) that says something like "This page starts with notation for the table displayed on the page. Scroll down to where the main article text begins"? Elf 04:25, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
andy 11:06, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As a side note to the above: I'd like some input on how to caption the covers. Just for expediency's sake, I would caption them with the title of the book. (See Lord of the Flies or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or examples). Fabiform suggested publisher, date. I'd like to know if anyone else has suggestions. →Raul654 08:06, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Yet another wikipedia utility: Wikipedia:RC patrol. If you have spotted an edit which looks questionable (but is not blatant vandalism), go ahead and submit it to the aforementioned page. Hopefully people will browse the page once in a while and check whether specific edits to articles which they are knowledgeable about are "OK". More info on the page. - snoyes 19:45, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Vitamin-S, fringe science or real science, YOU be the judge! --> Talk:Fringe science
This is an amazingly complete and detailed public domain site which has (long) articles about everything from SETI to the American Civil War. These articles are written by Greg Goebel, and many include diagrams created by Goebel (public domain).
Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Porting Vectorsite articles
Has Wikipedia been the victim of inter-temporal vandalism? →Raul654 14:24, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
Just a reminder that the four-week period for raising objections to articles that were not clear keeps in the original voting is at its exact mid point. If you voted to remove an article but have not raised a formal objection to it, please do so now at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Bmills 10:37, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits was moved to [15].
Update article, rename or move? --> Talk:Military of Iraq
I've been getting intermittent "file not found" messages. For example, I went to VfD, clicked on a link from there and then pressed "back", only to get an error message saying the file could not be found -- this was not a 404 or any such thing, it was a popup box like any other in Mac OSX (Mozilla). Is this part of the recent Wiki-madness due to servers and new features and slashdotting being flung about willy-nilly? Tuf-Kat 04:58, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)
--> Talk:Nuclear proliferation
Homo erectus soloensis and Homo erectus meganthropus fringe science or what? --> Talk:Homo erectus soloensis
Appear to have been disrupted during a server move.
戴眩sv has started Wikipedia:Favorite quotes.
--> Talk:U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004
the only mistake hitla made he didnt get all you fucking jews
claymountains@yahoo.com
Don't know if Lumpenproletariat should be moved to lumpen ploletariat. Need help from whatever that language is (German?). Discuss at Talk:Lumpenproletariat please. -- Maio 22:22, Feb 11, 2004 (UTC)
To The Permissions Department,
CECIERJ - Science and Distance Learning Foundation of Rio de Janeiro is the support foundation for the consortium CEDERJ, which is a consortium of six public universities (UERJ, UNIRIO, UENF, UFRJ, UFF, UFRRJ) located in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The consortium aims to offer high quality distance public higher education.
By offering undergraduate distance learning courses, the consortium CEDERJ:
The consortium CEDERJ works by building local centers distributed across the state (eleven at the moment). The course’s quality is ensured by the consortium and in the face-to-face and distance tutoring system.
Our courses are based on printed material and online courses, whose content is enriched by images, videos, audio, links, texts, programs, simulators, etc.
All our courses are given at no charge for the students and the educational material is heavily subsidized so as to minimize the cost to the student. The educational material is only sold to students of the courses in the consortium. They are not sold to the open public.
We would like to request your authorization for using the images found in your site for undetermined time in our courses. We commit ourselves to credit the material and use it only in our educational material.
Thank you for your attention. Please contact us if you need any further information.
It should be perfectly fine to use all material here for educational purposes. Even other purposes, just as long as all materials remain under the GNU FDL (English) / GNU FDL (Portugûes). Κσυπ Cyp 21:23, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm writing an estory which I hope to sell. It's about a geek who becomes a religious prophet but still sees the world as a geek. As a computer geek for over 30 years I've come to relish the term.
Anyway, talk radio host are flamming trolls, the government is bloatware and stuff like that. I could easily write my own definitions for these terms, in fact I just finished adding to Internet troll, but would like to make the readers aware of Wikipedia, the good work being done here and the revolutionary approach it embodies. The problem is I've read the copyleft stuff several times and am still at a loss. Examples would really help. I just want to quote from Wikipedia articles as you would from any text but I'm just not sure how to do that.
Does the complete article have to be copied rather than the relevant bits. Does the entire GPL have to be included? Does that make the work GPLed?
From reading the docs it's seems that most of the GPL stuff is for large amounts of information rather than citations under fair use. It's clear that a lot of work went into constructing the GPL for legal correctness. But I'm not a lawyer and haven't got a clue. It seems that fair use should cover the few sentences I would like but even if it does I would prefer to abide by your decision.
Thanks
hi I want to know how much cost every meter rice field in Ramsar (in Toman)? my e-mail address is : aria272002@yahoo.com
User:Wik seems to insist on replacing ndashes – with ASCII dashes -. Style guides for printed work such as encyclopedias, as well as Unicode, state that for ranges such as dates an ndash (1998–2000) and not a dash (1998-2000) should be used. One advantage of using the correct dash is that a linebreak won't occur on the right of it. Is there some official policy from the Wikipedia on this, or should I just wait until Wik tires of his game and restore the correct dashes? Jo r 01:00, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles are about being easy to read and edit. The average non techie reader has no idea what the sequence of characters "–" is supposed to mean. It makes the article source ugly and therefore harder to edit. This kind of stuff should be kept at a minimum. —Eloquence 01:34, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
Well the new dash conversion has just gone live. One hyphen - ; two -- ; three --- ; and of course four is the horozontal rule. We've all been muttering about having confusing "&..." symbols in the wiki editing box, but it just occured to me that this wont happen with the new markup. In the editing box the n-dash (if it was entered that way) will just look like --, just as horozontal rules display as ----. fabiform | talk 12:38, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Doesn't Wikipedia use UTF-8? Can't we just insert the actual mdash and ndash characters? That would make editing much easier. 137.222.10.57 17:03, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC).
Sir/Madam
Re history of ALCO Power Inc the date GEC (UK) purchased the company was in the early 1980's (about 1982/3 I forget the exact) not 1970 as stated on the page as below.
"The diesel engine business was sold to White Motor Corporation in 1970, who formed them into White Industrial Power. In 1970, White Industrial Power was sold to the British General Electric Company (GEC) who renamed the unit Alco Power, Inc. The business was subsequently sold to the Fairbanks-Morse corporation, who ..."
Best Regards
John Lankester(ex employee)
(My English might be weird because I'm from Europe.) Is there anybody else who'd love to make a vandalized page that has a lot of the original content of the article but with all kind of things added or changed so that it is very funny? I'd love to vandalize a page in such a way, but I think Wikipedia is really great and I really would like it to become a real encyclopedia. Many articles are awesome and could go right into a real encyclopedia. Because I don't want to "hurt" Wikipedia I will never do such funny vandalism.
The page that really would be my favourite to make funny is: Slashdot trolling phenomena in the page you would do everything that is described there. Like widening the page itself to demonstrate how trolls do that and at the same time making fun of it.
Couldn't we have a contest at April's Fools day who can make the funniest vandalism? Oh no, nobody is ever to take Wikipedia serious any more if we do that! :-P (If I'm correct English people make all kind of jokes on April's Fools day, don't they?)
Am I the only one longing to make such funny vandalized pages, although I would never do it? Laudaka 22:52, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Paul/laudaka)
P.S. When I edit Wikipedia I normally do it very seriously. I like most correcting all spelling errors and I will also try to rewrite articles to make them more interesting to read, for example by comparing the weight of a space probe with something familiar like a car, so the dull statistics like weight, time of launch, etc. become more lively. Laudaka 23:01, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC) (Paul/laudaka)
Does anyone know whats the longest period of time a vandalism has remained on Wikipedia ? I recently reverted vandalism made in August 2003 !! or something like that. Need to recheck which article that was. Jay 11:32, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I just screwed up image:Gutenberg.jpg. I uploaded an image of the Gutenberg bible under the same title, then noticed the name conflict and deleted it again. Of course, then all Gutenberg images were gone, so I tried to restore, but it hasn't come back. Does Gutenberg.jpg still exist somewhere? AxelBoldt 22:15, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've been trying to compare versions in the Dungeons & Dragons article by using the spiffy new checkboxes. But after I click the second box, I always get a blank page called "Dungeon" (try it--you'll see). I suspect this is due to the "&" in the title? How do I fix this so I can compare versions? — Frecklefoot 21:29, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Just wondering whether the German copyright terms (70 years after death, I think) apply to German content (eg. a picture of an expressionist painting) we want to use. Or do the onerous American terms apply because the servers are in the US? - snoyes 15:06, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi there,
Please can you help me to find where to buy a liquid crystal "sheet" I am in South Africa if it helps
Regards Ian Woolridge
As someone can see by checking out my user page (or my sig at the end of this post), a lot of Wiki characters are not working. What is going on? →Raul654 01:24, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)
FWIW, the error seems to have fixed itself about 2 hours ago. (The only "special" thing I did was reboot) →Raul654 21:18, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)
Is there anywhere people can sign up to list what languages they are capable of translating? I read quite a few languages, myself, but every so often I am out of my depth. For example, I've translated several articles from the Catalan or Romanian wikipedias, but I'd sure like to have some list of who I might consult when I run into a word that is beyond me to understand. -- Jmabel 01:07, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
So I've gone out on a limb (Be bold!) and created Wikipedia:Translation. Probably this can be improved upon, please come help out! Jmabel 08:33, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I am interested in a printed dictionary of common words concerning all PC-vocabulary. Where can I order this? Is such a book available? Thank you for your answer in advance Yours sincerely,
Renate M. Degenfeld Austria
This is the second time I tried to upload a sound clip and got this message (before the 100k warning, but after the upload appeared to be complete in the progress bar). The upload was apparently unsuccessful this time, though the first time it happened, last night, it did work (IIRC). After getting this message once today, I tried again with the same clip and the same thing happened. Tuf-Kat 19:05, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload
The following error was encountered:
* Write Error
The system returned:
(32) Broken pipe
An error condition occurred while writing to the network. Please retry your request.
Your cache administrator is webmaster. Generated Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:59:03 GMT by wikipedia.org (squid/2.5.STABLE4)
Limit is 7Mb now. -- Gabriel Wicke 22:06, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Is there a list of names of the soldiers who fought on the Plains of Abraham? I am specifically looking for the names of soldiers who came from other countries to join in the fight. Thanks, Jan
Hi!
I was wondering is it possible to download the whole mathematics section? There are so many interesting articles, but it is expensive to be online the whole time. How could I do that, and not use like a recursive wget tool which would surely take me outside the section (because it can tell the difference between Euler and peanut butter sandwitch) ;-)
Thanks
User:Ausir has changed Dior into a disambig page, but alas did so by copy-pasting all text into Dior (Middle-earth). Is it possible to move the edit history for Dior to Dior (Middle-earth)? I've left a (hopefully friendly) note at his user talk page explaining about the 'Move this page' feature. (This was written by user:Darkelf who didn't sign --Sennheiser !)
Spotted on Xinhua, the official Chinese newswire, no less [18]:
Huh? Maybe this is a new explanation for Wikipediholism - it's actually an infectious disease! :-) -- ChrisO 11:46, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Seriously though, I have this odd feeling of deja vu. Has wikipedia ever been incorrectly classified as a virus (im thinking of a possible article on SARS) before? --Sennheiser ! 14:55, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang Thanks
(this post is by 200.207.163.47 -- Delirium 11:04, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC))
I just received an e-mail, purporting to have been sent to the English wikipedia mailing list by Jimbo Wales, with the subject line "HI" and containing nothing but a binary attachement for windoze and macs. I know I am just guessing, but maybe this is forged, and contains a virus? Right? -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen 09:15, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
If a vandal disrupts a page and you revert it, and the vandal reverts your revert, have restraint and do not revert immediately. The vandal is trying to start a revert war. Do not take the bait. Leave the vandal hanging. Go back in an few hours and THEN revert. It is unlikely that the vandal will still be around.
More times than not, this strategy works. And you can spend your time editing things you want, rather than having your time sucked into a revert war. Kingturtle 06:15, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
When I upload a sound clip, I always get the "we recommend you don't upload an image over 100k in size" and have to override it each time. Since a 100k sound clip must be a tiny fraction of a second, I venture that there will never be any .ogg files of less than 100k. Do I need to request a feature to have this disabled for .ogg files, or is there a mediawiki page somewhere? Tuf-Kat 05:10, Feb 9, 2004 (UTC)
I inadvertently messed up my password by click the "Email New Password" button on the login screen. I never received the new password, though I tried several passes, and since my old password is gone, I don't know what to do. My email address was supplied, is this a bug? 24.47.182.47 03:09, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Can someone update Wikipedia:Most Wanted Articles. About half of them are created, now. Anthony DiPierro 01:45, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I was just wondering, what constitutes a minor edit, anyway? JB82 23:59, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Can somebody explain to me why the movie City of God is credited with two directors, Kátia Lund and Fernando Meirelles, but only Meirelles has been nominated for the Academy Award? RickK 23:13, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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There should be a verification screen after clicking on "Protect this page" and on "Unprotect this page" that says "Are you sure you want to do this?"
--> Wikipedia:Village pump/February 2004 archive 1
After coming across Kasia Smutniak, I wondered, "is bust size encyclopedic?" That led me to further questiosn like whether or not weight, height, or eye color of model's should be included in wikipedia articles. Anyone have any feelings about this? Sennheiser ! 15:57, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not
I haven't been able to find an answer yet. When it's important to provide translation of words in another language (German: Sprache), what is the standard?
--> Wikipedia talk:Use other languages sparingly
Please have a look at Plants and animals of Belize and help to identify them.
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Many of the higher level decisions regarding wikipedia are not discussed or made within wikipedia, but are instead discussed and made on the mailing lists.
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Anyone know of an elegant way to force a line break between two images using the Extended Image Format?
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Extended image syntax
After quite a bit of going back and forth, I think we've finally come to an agreement on the matter of Japanese naming conventions (see the talk page for conclusion and rationale).
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I put a question on here two days ago, and it's already been deleted.
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Village pump
lorrainej55@hotmail.com or lori_lo2003@yahoo.com would like to join a "write to any sailor" scheme.
Should we insert comments before complex infobox tables which appear at the top of the page to tell new users to scroll down to edit the page?
Tonight, I got motivated and scanned the covers of a bunch of books I have, to use in their respective articles. But before I got to all the effort to upload then and put them into their respective articles, I'd just like to make sure that I won't be causing any copyright violations. →Raul654 01:54, Feb 7, 2004 (UTC)
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[19] Wikipedia talk:Porting Vectorsite articles
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What are the checkboxes that have suddenly started appearing beside items in the Page History lists for? Or am I seeing things? Bmills 14:31, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:Page history
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I erroneously deleted Talk:World War II atrocities and World War II atrocities in Poland. Sorry for screwing up.
The folloiwng should be undone by an admin: Talk:World War II atrocities must be restored, and World War II atrocities in Poland/ Talk:World War II atrocities in Poland deleted.
BTW, could it be a good idea to forbid such kind of page move? Mikkalai 21:17, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
In my year watching Wikipedia I thought I'd seen all variations of edit wars - at religion articles, science/pseudoscience articles, history/politics articles, etc. - but for the last day or so an edit war has been raging at, of all things, Curse of the Bambino! (This is a jokey reference to the inability of Boston's baseball team to win a title.) That's like watching a fistfight over whether Twinkies are tastier than Ho-Hos (if I may be forgiven a USA-centric junk-food joke)
I'm curious: Has anybody else encountered a real, mean-spirited, you-revert-me-so-I-revert-you edit war over a less likely topic? DavidWBrooks 15:38, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I hope this belongs here. If not, please move elsewhere. My question is whether it is possible to modify the following math formula in such a way that the equations in each row are left-aligned:
Thanks for any help. -- Timwi 13:52, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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"?Thanks for all your suggestions, although I'm afraid to say I find none of them satisfactory. I didn't add those "\ "s and "\qquad"s; when I inserted the formula, it was all centered. Thanks for your help anyway. -- Timwi 22:29, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Using matrices to align equations is long-deprecated in the field of mathematics. The standard method is using \begin{align*}, as the user above noted, which is part of the AMS Math package. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not seem to currently support this. -- Delirium 02:04, Feb 14, 2004 (UTC)
Who is the wikipedian who has a hysterical picture of a kitten stuck in a drinking glass on their user page? I stumbled across that and haven't been able to get it out my head and want to show it my friend LouLou. Thanks. jengod 21:25, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
Did the kitten ever get over its hangover? Dieter Simon 00:02, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
With the hardware upgrade still fresh in everyone's mind it seems that moving Wikipedia to some sort of P2P network configuration might be a good idea. This way volunteers could host some articles and as the Wikipedia's user base grows so to does the processing power. Of course there would have to be many redundant copies of each article but that would give lots of bandwidth and fault tolerance. Articles in different languages could actually be hosted in their country or origin which would reduce bandwidth? It would also give P2P networks a legitimate use.
-- Taku 00:00, Feb 14, 2004 (UTC)
I would like to use the images from this awesome university website. Would I be violating copyright? --Ed Senft ! 21:48, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Above all, if one needs mathematical or scientific information, Wikipedia is simply the best, which brought the Web out in the last years. There are to some extent understandable, clear and extensive explanations to (nearly) each topic. Still to it the whole is free. It is fascinating that also in the today's Spam and garbage and troll contaminated Web still another project instructed on voluntariness, self-check and co-operation survive can.
Further so, Wikipedia!
I've spent most of today clicking Random page and have seen a (random, naturally) sample of a couple of hundred articles. Excluding the U. S. places from the census, the following are just a few observations/questions that spring to mind. All comments welcome.
Bmills 16:30, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I've come across this article - Oxford Revelation Rock-Gospel Choir but I'm not sure what to do with it, It looks like an advert rather than an encyclopedia article, should it be put on VFD G-Man 23:16, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
As a side note to the earlier discussion of book covers and fair use (see Talk:Fair use): I'd like some input on how to caption the covers. Just for expediency's sake, I would caption them with the title of the book. (See Lord of the Flies or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone or examples). Fabiform suggested publisher, date. I'd like to know if anyone else has suggestions. →Raul654 08:06, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)
Is someone going to delete Wilfredo G. Santa or are we going to allow that to sit and rot? Refer to Talk:Wilfredo_G._Santa. Consensus is to delete.-- Jia ng 03:20, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
OK, I deleted the page. I left the Talk page so that people can see how the voting went. RickK 08:03, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Is it possible to add New pages to a watchlist? Bevo 16:51, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
This is getting ignored on Manual of Style, so upping its profile by dropping it here...
I saw this is Wikipedia:History:
The following is a formatted reference link for external links and references:
STYLE: Doe, John, "Main page". Wikimedia Foundation, Florida, USA. January 1, 2000.
SOURCE: Last name, First name, "''[http://www.url.org Linked article name]''". Source publisher, Location. [[Month Day]], [[Year]].
Surely this is only the guideline for online resources? According to established Chicago Manual of Style practices, this is incorrect for most published print resources, which generally go something like this:
or
and so forth...
Looking at the article Imperative programming I see that there is some attribution text atop the article that the history comments says should not be removed because it is a "Title Page" required by the GFDL. Is this advice correctly stated? Bevo 01:18, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
From the article talk page
Mav, why did you remove the history and title page text? It's required under the GFDL for making a modified version, in this case from Nupedia. You said "see wikipedia:copyrights", but I can't tell to what you refer. Martin 16:10, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
If so, the point is that just because Wikipedia has a certain interpretation of the GFDL when others use our work, doesn't mean that we're allowed to use the same interpretation of the GFDL when we use the work of others. Now, if the authors of the Nupedia article in question to indicate that they share our interpretation, then that's great. However, if they do not (and they have not yet to date, AFAICT) then we should follow a comparatively strict interpretation to ensure that we are not violating copyright. Martin 16:38, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
If this is, indeed, a requirement, it's going to be impossible to do it by editing every single article and putting it there, and making sure it stays there. It's going to have to be done by the operating system in an section which is not editable. RickK 21:14, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)
-> Wikipedia talk:Nupedia and Wikipedia
I am looking for "Emilo" a spanish book published back in 1930s which is currently out of print. Any help?
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I propose that the term "sysop" be removed from the Wikipedia lexicon. We already have administrator (short admin), and it is kind of confusing to have both. Not to mention that sysop doesn't really fit the bill, unless you consider Wikipedia a system! I am bringing this up now because of the newly emerged Special:Makesysop seems to be introducing the term sysop even more. I am guessing this would be mostly a search and replace kind of deal, disruptive yes, but is it any more difficult than that? Are the benefits worth it? Dori | Talk 20:15, Feb 16, 2004 (UTC)
Honestly, I just use sysop and admin interchangably. →Raul654 23:05, Feb 16, 2004 (UTC)
Hi Trekkies and other folks enjoying Star Trek!
I'm looking for a say 1 screen transcript of Klingon. From a series or movie of Star Trek. (A part of one of the books in Klingon seems less nice to me.)
It is for an article I'm editing about a special phenomenon that occurs only rarely in languages. Klingon has been made up using this phenomenon because it makes Klingon sound counterintuitive and weird. (Actually a sentence like "Ba'thar destroyed the ship with a photon torpedo" in Klingon becomes "The ship destroyed Ba'thar with a photon torpedo".)
To make the article (actually Object Verb Subject) more lively and to illustrate why this phenomenon is so rare it would be very nice to translate a fairly large piece of Klingon back to English but keeping the higly unusual word order of Klingon.
Where can I find such a transcript, preferably with extended translation annotations? I'm thinking of having a look at the Star Trek WikiWiki, but I really haven't a clue where to look else for this. BTW (by the way) if someone wants to make such a quasi-translation himself I'd really welcome that as I'm absolutely not familiar in Klingon and I have a hard time writing new text. Editing and copyediting text is much easier for me, so I can help extensively with such a translation.
I think it's nicest to use some Klingon text that people might have seen already on tv or could rent a video of (then the movies would be best). In this way I think it's also appealing for people that are not die-hard Trekkers but interested in language, or are just curious. (And reading Wikipedia for it's entertainment value, like I do File:Http://home.wanadoo.nl/laudako/tongue.gif Paul/laudaka (add me to your Y!M/AIM/etc. list if you like!) | Talk 16:41, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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The movie seabiscuit, was stupid you people went way out of your way to pretend that seabiscuit was a born & Bred horse from Canada,mexico,Washington,california,any... place, but where it really came from..KY
I'm tired of people posting fotos using the <div> tag. This format is extremely hostile to older browsers, and results in people who use older systems to explore wikipedia finding it unpleasant and unusable and not coming back. The <img> tag is perfectly adequate for the wikipedia and is friendly to just about every browser out there. Myself, I usually use Netscape 4.7, but I can no longer use it on graphics-containing wikipedia pages, forcing me to open Mozilla 1.6, which badly bogs down my antiquated computer and forces me to spend about three times as much time on-line to do the same thing. BTW, the Bomis Browser version I have won't handle the <div> stuff very well, either. jaknouse 18:06, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
In your report you state that the Bathyscaphe Triest reached the bottom of Challenger deep. If this is indeed the case and all that was found where sole,shrimp and carp. Then what where the demensions at the bottom. Was there a shelf of any sort. Where there any tunnels or shafts? Was the entire bottom covered in a silt? Any rocks or other such matter?
I would appreciate if you or a representative would write back to me at b_m_hacking@hotmail.com
Edit wars II and (poposed) III. How to avoid them ?
It seems that phase two of the iridology page edit wars will rage again
The declaration of war reads like this:
My question is how to bring calm and serenity in David and Theresa, how to protect information, how to encourage them to always resort to documents in the talk page and (gasp) for myself - how to ignore the police alert attitude as put in evidence above outside the village pump? TIA - irismeister 19:52, 2004 Feb 19 (UTC)
He keeps creating articles with basically no content. I don't know if I want to add him to Conflicts between users(im afraid of hurting his fealings), but this little bugger is getting on my nerves. It seems as if he is a 6-8 year old with an overactive imagination (the kind of child who gets pummelled in the school yard). I don't know if he understands how to login. (he usually edits as 67.60.27.122. He also keeps asking to be an admin, and has this misconecption that he will become one soon as long as he keeps pestering others and promises to create "en.wiktionary.org" and bots that translate things. He seems to be a problem at wiktionary(i don't contribute there so I cant say). Pumpie also keeps creating articles about HMS's which have basically no content. He has repeatedly been asked to include a stub message, but he seems unable to grasp the simple concept. Look at the article HMS Hermione, for an example of the kind of articles he creates. (this was created today and he wasn't even logged in) (notice it says "HMS Amazon" instead of Hermione). As I said, I am weary about adding him to the conflict page, but I don't know what else to do. --Ed Senft ! 23:22, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Umm, I tried to load the main page via my usual link, and got this: "If you've gotten here, you're either having DNS trouble or you've followed some sort of invalid link.
Please see wikimedia.org for links to Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects.
Note that the address for www.wikipedia.org should be 130.94.122.199. This server is 130.94.122.197. If you thought you were coming to www.wikipedia.org, you're in the wrong place!"
Is this really my fault?" Surely www.wikipedia.org should get me to wikipedia!!! Graham 10:14, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
After an edit war between Anthony DiPierro and Wik over VfD, that page was protected. Apparently recognising the inconvenience of an edit war on VfD, or the protection of this extremely heavily edited page, they both made comments suggesting the acceptability of a temporary mutual ban. Wik said in an edit summary:
And Anthony said on IRC:
So I did it, and unprotected VfD. -- Tim Starling 02:38, Feb 13, 2004 (UTC)
I'm trying to edit this and just get a blank window, so not sure how this will post. I just uploaded: image:divshot1.jpg image:divshot2.jpg image:divshot3.jpg as examples of what happens when viewing div tags on Netscape 4.7 (the page shown is Oak). In fact, the pump grafik at the top of the Village Pump page floats ON TOP of much of the text! jaknouse 01:07, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hello all, this is just a friendly reminder about trolls. As Wikipedia increases in coverage, so too increases the meddling of trolls. There are times when it seems like trolls are everywhere, and it becomes a game (of sorts) to catch, nab or name the little buggers. It is in such moments that people begin to be overly suspicious of the actions of newcomers. Our trust in newcomers diminishes. Once distrust supercedes trust in a community, it is difficult to reverse the change. Let's not let that happen to Wikipedia. The project depends on a strong, friendly community. Build the database and build the community, too.
I realize you are all working hard at building our community. This messages is not to insult you or scold you. It is just a reminder. Welcome newcomers. Don't be overly suspicious of the actions of newcomers. Speak softly.
But carry a big stick, Kingturtle 04:20, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Edit wars II and (as proposed below) III. How to avoid them ?
It seems that phase two of the iridology page edit wars will rage again
The declaration of war reads like this:
My question is how to bring calm and serenity in David and Theresa, how to protect information, how to encourage them to always resort to documents in the talk page and (gasp) for myself - how to ignore the police alert attitude as put in evidence above outside the village pump? TIA - irismeister 19:52, 2004 Feb 19 (UTC)