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Hi, everyone!
For some time I'm monitoring some articles that are bone of contention between Polish and German (and sometimes even Australian - hi Adam!) wikipedians. What worries me is the fact that people that could contribute heavily to other areas instead engage in petty edit wars, fighting on every word.
Perharps we need some general policies on factual accuracy of articles? Even if this won't discourage parties involved, the others would be albe to point them out the policy breach.
So this is what I propose:
Forseti 10:46, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
can somebody answer this question? why is American Football so popular that nearly everybody watch the superbowl? i mean i like Football very much and i just wanna figure out what is so special about it?!
re-interprets as 'popular in America and selected other countries' given that 'Football' (aka Soccer) is arguably far more popular world-wide.
User:Yaohua2000 at Chinese WP got pissed off after people objected to his user page (like this), so he requested about 9 pages started by him and afterwards exclusively edited by him to be deleted. Should we fufill that request? One admin already did. My understanding is that giving to WP is a one-way no-return charity street, but I'm not sure the legality behind it. So I asked on WP IRC, but only Adam replied, saying "I believe that is the gist of the message at the bottom of the editing page".
This couldn't have been the first incident like this? The request sounds logical, but is it compliant to the GNU Wiki "save page" click? I'd surprised if requests of this type doesn't spring up again, and again. Perhaps we should develop a meta or WP namespace page, clear and loud, just for newbies on this topic. -- Menchi 04:57, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No, sorry, if he wants to list them on VfD, then they can be discussed on their own merits, but he no longer owns them. RickK | Talk 05:00, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There is an argument known to Meatball denizens which says that people should be allowed to dissociate themselves from what they wrote: the right to vanish. One of the reasons given for maintaining this policy is that it allows people to leave quietly and gracefully, rather than harbouring hate and turning to vandalism. -- Tim Starling 05:18, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I would say that legally we can keep them up, but the right to vanish sounds like a good idea, and it wouldn't hurt the Wikipedia too much to delete them. So let's do that, as a general rule: If you are the only contributor to an article, you can request its deletion. If somelse edits it at all, though, it has to stay. Meelar 05:23, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I think u r a bit radical. I don't think many people here like ur user page too. maybe u can notice that the people here modified ur user page as well, not just shizhao. and, i think Meelar means that "If you are the only contributor to an article, you can request its deletion", but not request the copyright back. -- Yacht 05:39, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I should say, in defence of the "absolutist" Chinese board, that when we've faced this issue in the past, we've refused to delete the articles. Instead, the person who is leaving often requests a name change. So it would be a bit hypocritical to say to the Chinese administrators that they definitely should remove the articles. This decision should be up to them. The law has nothing to say on this: either option is legal. Note that the Meatball article gave name-changing as one possible way to vanish from a community. -- Tim Starling 05:45, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
not a big deal, he just used tag div to override the navigation and site skin of WP. I am okay with that, not like it though. ( here) -- Yacht 05:53, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I am not judging, nor willing to get involved into an arguement. but i would like to say that i hate that pic, which reminds me of a GD Japanese businessman providing such products. disgusting... poor kitty. :'( -- Yacht 07:08, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
Abstract currently redirects to abstraction, which is about the concept of abstractness and has see alsos for a number of other uses of the word. (1) What would be the appropriate name for an article about "abstract" as used in the context of peer reviewed articles: a summary paragraph placed prior to the introduction, often with different line justification (blockquote?) from the rest of the article, used to help readers determine the purpose of the paper. (2) Would it be more appropriate for abstract to be a disambig page for the many other meanings of the word? Replies might be best on the Talk:Abstraction page. -- zandperl 04:16, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is there a tutorial where I can learn how to write those little messages, like {{msg:tolkein}} or whatever? Thanks very much, Meelar 03:30, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Chemistry question moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk. moink 17:12, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Not quite sure how to answer you but appreciate your question on the Munichen question regarding artist Robert Vost - Munichen was the former name of the city you mention and was the city of Monks at that time so yes to your question. Since it is titled Munichen and I have only one reference on the internet to this under found papers of someone, I am would love to find out more. If you can help, thank you very much.
Best regards, Marilyn Newcomb
Why can't the four tildes display date and UTC time in the ISO 8601 international standard format, which is the best choice for a worldwide audience? Colloquial variations on date/time format vary widely from country to country. Why push any particular, arbitrary colloquialism, instead of simply using the ISO international standard date and time format? W3C uses the ISO international standard format. In other words, why doesn't the four-tilde string display "username 2004-03-21, 19:22 (UTC)"? That's all we need for the signature string. It's universal. As is now, even if we select the ISO 8601 standard in our preferences, the four-tilde string still displays in an arbitrary, nonstandard format. Can Wikipedia be upgraded to the international standard date and time format (for the automatic signature string)? Thanks. -- Simian 01:36, 2004 Mar 22 (UTC)
Because it's not universal. It will confuse Americans, who wouldn't be able to figure out if 03-12 is March 12th or December 3rd. RickK | Talk 01:38, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
ISO 8601 is a good machine-readable date format, but it's not particularly nice-looking. You don't see the Chicago Manual of Style recommending it, do you? Also, our audience is English-speaking, not worldwide. Each language can choose their own date format. For example, on ja, dates look like "02:24 2004年3月22日 (UTC)" -- Tim Starling 02:28, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
My thoughts--in Wikipedia, the info I'd guess that most are interested in when looking at edits is the time, as in "what has changed since I logged on this morning?". So in WP, time before date would seem to make sense. Yes, we handicapped Americans recognize 24-hr as military time and understand it. Dates are so much easier to understand when the month name is used; I don't know why it would be "better" to use any representation that includes only numbers when it's people (not databases) that are reading the information. Elf | Talk 17:44, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Can someone please fix Wikipedia:Votes for deletion? Right now it's impossible to edit because section editing is unusable. It seems some section header has been covered by a comment, and as of now, you can't get to the proper section when you try to edit. RickK | Talk 01:32, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hm. It works now. :) RickK | Talk 01:32, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand how to use section editing yet. Could someone explain, keeping in mind that many people use image-, javascript-, and CSS-disabled browsing for portability across platforms worldwide? In this case, can I not use section editing, or does it not show up on the screen? Or, does it show up and work only on Windows OS but not others? Thanks. -- 66.90.171.93 00:53, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump&action=edit§ion=117
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump&action=edit§ion=117
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump&action=edit§ion=117 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump&action=edit&section=117]
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and looks no further, even though §arianism;
would be just as valid as §
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IE does this, and I consider it a bug: particularly annoying when you see something&something else
, which breaks on everything else. -
IMSoP 19:33, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)A few hours back I added 487 links to Wikipedia:Links to disambiguating pages by doing a little automatic sorting and culling of "what links here" from both Wikipedia:Disambiguation and MediaWiki:Disambig (I also hand-cleaned those lists to remove stuff that obviously shouldn't be there, never fear :). I've noticed, however, that these lists are both far from complete - I assume the Wiki software stops the query after a certain number of links have been found. I want to get them all, but SQL querying is currently disabled because it's so dangerous. Who should I talk to to get a full listing of these links? Bryan 00:22, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
On a related note - a lot of our music pages are lacking. Now, I googled for "public domain music" and I found a lot of sites. The preferred format for sheet music is pdf, and the most common format for public domain music is midi. Are there objections to these formats? I know PDF is an open standard. →Raul654 05:56, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I have an mp3 of Enrico Caruso singing La Donna E Mobile (1908). It would definitely be a beneficial addition to the Rigoletto and Enrico Caruso articles. However, I have a gripe to make. Why is .ogg the preferred format for sound files? Next to wav, mp3 is the universal format for sound files. (I think I heard somewhere that some specific mp3 formats are patented, while ogg is totally open). Second, if we do have to use ogg, can someone recommend a good (no strings attached, no registration, etc) mp3<->ogg converter? →Raul654 20:18, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, I got the software working. The sound file is here.
I'm following the contributions of a certain anonymous user because I have reason to believe many of hir edits are not serious and/or accurate. To Dover Athletic s/he has added the sentence "They were relegated from the Conference division in the 2001/ 2002 season to the Dr Martens league." I know nothing about British soccer, could someone check this page and its accuracy? Thanks. moink 19:23, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
S/he also added reference to a programming language called "DarkBasic" to AMOS BASIC programming language. Does this exist? moink 19:28, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I Have Looked EVERYWHERE For A Good Sized COmmand List With Descriptions Of Usage For BasicA. If You Can Help Me, E-Mail: sythe2112@yahoo.com
Would it be possible to export Did you know... in some form as a widget for people's webpages? It would be a nice promotional tool, as well as just a neat thing. -- Spikey 05:54, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I uploaded Wachovia_logo.gif, then realized that I could in fact convert it. So I uploaded Wachovia_logo.png. But this had been resized, and after reading Wikipedia:logos, I learned I wasn't supposed to resize logos, so I reuploaded Wachovia_logo.png at the original size. So now there's two versions of Wachovia_logo.png. I know Wachovia_logo.gif belongs in vfd, but what about the OLD version of Wachovia_logo.png? If I put a vfd in Image:Wachovia_logo.png, will that automatically apply to the current image, or how can I specify the older image? -- Golbez 06:29, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I really really really want to know what this means, as I haven't been able to look it up anywhere else...in Elvish dictionaries and all.Thank you. "Avanie mir mornie"
Would someone (anyone) with any ability to properly do so, please sort this list to some basic general subcategories, so that its not four pages long? Thanks in advance. - SV (talk) 04:33, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
Why are some movie articles designated with '(movie)' while others use '(film)'? For example, Tron (film) or The Haunted Mansion (movie). Is there a reason for the use of either word, or does it depend on the whim of whoever creates the article? Is there a standard to stick by? Brian Kendig 04:21, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The article List of Disney people includes a link to Frank Thomas -- but the article is about Frank Thomas the baseball player, not Frank Thomas the Disney animator. How should this be resolved? Should I create a new page named 'Frank Thomas (animator)', should I rename the existing one to 'Frank Thomas (baseball player)', should I name them 'Frank Thomas (1)' and 'Frank Thomas (2)', or what? Brian Kendig 04:16, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There was an entry about Jesselyn Radack, but it vanished. I restored it but the deletion does not show up in the history. Nor does it appear in the deletion log as far as I can see. With google it still cannot be found. How can I find out who deleted it?
See Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion. silsor 19:00, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
If nobody has any objection I'm going to remove the vfd notice from all the lists that User: 141 had nominated for deletion, because he was trolling and nobody wants these things deleted. Mintguy (T) 20:39, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Cleanup be archived every week no matter what has been done to the entries? Give your opinion Wikipedia talk:Cleanup#Archiving. Thanks, Dori | Talk 18:22, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
I'd be grateful for any 'pedian fluent in Arabic to take a look at the list of air forces. I have Roman alphabet transliterations for many of the Arab air forces listed there, but not the original language versions. Cheers -- Rlandmann 11:07, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate to let Wikipedia express preference for particular www-sites, as in this case Webster's online dictionary, see
contributions by anon user 24.94.24.107?
--
Ruhrjung 09:45, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm referring to the "selected anniversaries" for March 20th on the front page.
There should be a rule that adjectives are redirects to nouns. (If there isn't one already).
For example: Renal should redirect to kindey. Happy should redirect to happyness.
I can't think of many cases where this should not occur (perhaps only if the adjective is ambiguous). Bensaccount 16:33, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Pursuant to a related discussion on #wp (b/t sethIlys & imran), here is a suggestion for improving compliance of well-meaning parties with our copright reqs:
Here is an example notice which complies with the GFDL, for an article that uses the Wikipedia article Foo. Note that it links directly to a copy of both the GFDL and the article:
- This article is licensed under the <a href=" http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html">GNU Free Documentation License</a>. It uses material from the <a href=" http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo">Wikipedia article "Foo"</a>.
("Foo" and the Wikipedia URL must of course be changed to match the article you are using.)
For other acceptable notice formats, and more information on your rights and responsibilities under our copyright license, read on.
+sj + 18:03, 2004 Mar 29 (UTC)
Hi there, there seems to be an error made by ?my browser?, anyway, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Greeneye&diff=0&oldid=2985654 , i didn't put in all those blank lines, sorry for that, i just aligned the image. Regards 134.2.226.113 21:45, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC) (from de:)
Hello The structure on the ibuprofen stub article is entirely incorrect - the branches extend from the wrong place on the benzene ring and one of the groups themselves is wrong - it should feature an OH group, not a single bonded oxygen mid-branch.
I cannot discuss the article as it does not exist yet. I would be more than happy to write the article when I have finished my current paper, however I wondered whether it was in some way possible to correct or remove the erroneous information before then.
Many thanks
~Deborah~ ~31 March 2004~
JOR is anti-Poland vandal! Why he is not blocked?!!? WARNING: MAXIMUS REX is JOR sockpuppet.
I add new QUCIKPOLL for JOR POV Pusher. Please vote!!
USER:JOR is anti-Poland VANDAL. ==THIS IS REMOVED BY JOR SUPPORTER SO IF DELETED PLEASE ADD BACK==
I'm sure I will like the place and be a Wikipedian! Wik Lir 20:49, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I was just trying to clean up some of the links on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion and suddenly the page went haywire. (I hope it wasn't something I did.) Who can we notify to fix it? Rossami 23:04, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I got an Almanac here from Germany, 1980. The publishing house can't be found on the Internet; No idea what's happened to them. Anyway, my question:
The book consists mostly of tables and short descriptions/explanations of words. I don't think the content is reproducible in any other way, as the tables are usually made up of only few words. Can I quote stuff from there? One example would be Nobility, where I just expanded the list of nobility titles. Even if I wouldn't have used the book as reference, I doubt the table would have looked much different... so, what's the answer to this? The book is full of information that I could obtain otherwise (e.g. by compiling tables myself out of several other books or websites), so I don't really have an idea on what copyright says for this...
Oh, and it's only about text. I wouldn't dare to scan any image and put it on Wikipedia. :) -- Tomcat 11:32, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
User:666 says on his User page, My edits are licensed under the BSD license.. Can someone tell us if this is compatible with the GFDL? RickK | Talk 21:02, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Just for your information - this is hardly a new question, but it seems that some on English wikipedia say making clear where the text is from in summary comment area is enough.
There has been discussion on virtually the same question at Japanese Wikipedia over these three months. We may come to a concensus on one particular interpretation of GFDL so that there is enough clarity about what is okay and what is not.
Currently, it seems to me that we are going to say simple cut-n-pasting from one page to another is in violation. Some more details are in meta:User:Tomos/Legal discussion on Japanese Wikipedia#GFDL and Wikipedia in general.
If there is going to be any similar solution, I hope you can announce it at wikilegal-l so that we (en. and ja.) do not end up with having two incompatible interpretations.
We are also talking about the possibility to introduce within-site public domain license so that every edits after the introduction could become dual licensed and they can be archived, copied, translated, integrated, etc. without worrying strict compliance in GFDL. The gist of license is that the contributors allow any modification or reproduction of their contributions within wikipedia of any languages and possibly to other projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation.
Another solution is to introduce a new function by which a user can copy an entire page (text + history). See, meta:MediaWiki feature request and bug report discussion#Copy this page.
Tomos 03:34, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
For the last half hour or so, when trying to access my watchlist I get:
SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=7534 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040328001448' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC
I have observed the following on the danish wikipedia.
If a person is using Opera (7.23), the following is happening on a page when Save page is pushed:
Text as the following ”åben by” is changed to ?åben by?.
BrianHansen 21:07, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC) ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruger:BrianHansen)
Should meta pages (wikipedia:) be used for discussion? Bensaccount 23:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to list all subpages of a particular user page? Is using what links here from the user page reliable? In particular I'd like to list all subpages of User:Information-Ecologist and User:Information-Habitat (who may be the same person). The reason is that I've listed some of them for deletion but I seem to have missed at least one that should have been included, so the next step seems to be to get a list of them all. TIA Andrewa 00:50, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Something weird--clicking My watchlis in left menu bar gives:
A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wikipedia), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=40082 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040329180705' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC from within function "wfSpecialWatchlist". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error 28 from table handler".
Elf | Talk 18:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Is there a list anywhere of the various {msg:} codes? -- User Talk:Lukobe
Hello. We are a research group and we are doing a social experiment: We choose articles that may be controversial or frequently vandalized. We submit a small useful edit but we use user names and edit summaries which may make the administrators think we vandalized the article. In this case we chose the name of a hard-banned user ( Michael) hoping to make you believe Michael3 was his sock puppet. We thought the user name and the edit summary (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!) would deceive an administrator to revert the article without checking our useful contributions. We have performed many similar experiments in Wikipedia and other online communities. In this way we can understand how much respect a community has for democracy and personal freedom, whether a community is healthy, whether its administrators are doing their job well, and how paranoid they turn when they face strange vandalism-like edits (that aren't vandalism). We are a large group and our online experiments are part of a major psychological and sociological research. We are very concerned with freedom over the Internet and we have faced many unreasonable and paranoid reverts and blockings by the administrators of the Wikipedia community. Dante Alighieri was successfully deceived and blocked Michael3 noting "probably Michael" (a hard-banned user). But Michael3 was just adding useful links (for example, wikifying dates, i.e. turning dates in active blue links) and his only "sins" were his user name (similar to Michael) and his mysterious edit summaries (ha ha ha !!!). Michael3 is not Michael, he is a member of our research group. You didn't know that, because this knowledge could destroy our experiment. Michael3 could be just an innocent new user. Now we have shown that the Wikipedia community has turned paranoid over possible vandalism and unreasonably restricts the individual liberties. This has to stop. We also ask the community to take care of Dante Alighieri since he blocked Michael3 too easily, probably without checking his edits. We'll continue our experiments and we hope that your community will understand that freedom is more important than security. All yours, Michael33.
p.s. attempts to use the Nuremberg Code or any other device to bar politically oriented research would run up hard against the First Ammendment. And of course, the US Central Intellegence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and other tradecraft agencies worldwide routinely conduct covert research. Filibuster 04:24, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC) ~o~
Nearly one in four humans alive in 2004 who are incarcerated in prisons are incarcerated in United States prisons. The United States has been identified throughout Asia, Africa, parts of Europe and in South America as the most egregious human rights violator operating in the world today. Because of the United States' economic and political structure, the individual citizens of the United States are deemed the perpetrators of these human rights violations, with culpability roughly correlated to economic status and ambition for social prestige.
Resisting government targets has proven an ineffectual means of confronting the psychological environment that fosters human rights violations, so resistance activists have turned to strategies that target the psychological source of human rights violations. These psychological forums include, especially, electronic communications forums because such forums are proportionally used by classes most likely to be involved in oppression of other humans. Wikipedia has been identified as a communication node frequented by Americans and other Western capitalists who enjoy casual repetition of both oppressive mythology and of punitive administrative styles. Specifically, resistance cells reviewing Wikipedia have identified quintessential examples of administrative climates whereby attacks against persons have been preferred over fair and consistent enforcement of codified laws or rules.
This discovery has led to development of tactics that identify and target individual members of Wikipedia who most often deploy the tactics that, when mirrored in legal settings, comprise the basis of methodological human rights violations. In plain language, administrators who ban Wikipedia contributors for trolling are now considered to be the equivalent of US police officers who use profiling techniques to target members of ethnic or economic minorities. Tactics for exposing and opposing these oppressive administrative approaches in this and other Wikis have been developed, tested and published. This is one of many notices intended to advise visitors to this site that they are being scrutinized, that oppressive administrators are being targeted, that resistance to oppression is accepted as an affective tactic in this environment, and that those who engage in resistance can enjoy the mutual support of loosely organized world-wide resistance who intend to mitigate circumstances that has a small portion of the worlds population incarcerating a far disproportionate portion of the worlds citizens. Resisting a growing trend toward concentration camps is far more important than accomplishing the putative goals of a recreational project such as Wikipedia. Apt Repsonse 18:38, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
--> User talk:Apt Repsonse The supression of this dialogue from this page evidences the substance of complaints detailed in the now-censored notice. Apt Response
Has the page The resolution of the Dreyfus Affair ever been written? Or has it become lost due to restructuring? David.Monniaux 16:06, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
MEL GIBSON’S MOVIE
"THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST"
Because “The Passion of the Christ” movie adds a lot of material that is not included in the Bible, it adds man’s lies to the crucifixion account. From what I have read about it, the movie is focused on Christ’s physical death – and thereby misses the spiritual point about Christ’s suffering the equivalent of eternal wrath of God for the sins of His chosen people.
Since Jesus Christ is Eternal God, it is blasphemy to make any kind of an “image” of Christ in ANY form. Although it does not do much good to cite Scriptures to people who are not saved and who do not place themselves under the authority of God’s Word, these are the words of God to the whole human race:
Exodus 20:4-5 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: {5} Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” (This is repeated in Deuteronomy 5:8-9)
Romans 1:22-25 “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, {23} And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. {24} Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: {25} Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.”
Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book [the Bible], If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: {19} And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
The movie places a great emphasis on Christ’s PHYSICAL punishment and death. However, if given the opportunity, we true believers should be prepared to talk about the SPIRITUAL aspects of the Atonement. We should stress that Christ in His SOUL EXISTENCE endured the equivalent of ETERNITY IN HELL for those who were CHOSEN to be saved from BEFORE the foundation of the world. That is why Christ’s SOUL (or Spirit) is mentioned in the following verses:
Isaiah 53:10 “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make HIS SOUL an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
Psalms 16:10 “For thou wilt not leave MY SOUL in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
The secular world is concerned about whom to BLAME for Christ’s death on the cross. However, we need to remember that Christ became man in order to pay for the sins of His people. It was predetermined by the COUNSEL OF THE GODHEAD BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD that Jesus would be “made sin”, “lifted up” and become a “curse” for us. In that sense, we are ALL to blame for Christ’s death:
2 Corinthians 5:21 “FOR HE [GOD THE FATHER] HATH MADE HIM [GOD THE SON] TO BE SIN FOR US, WHO KNEW NO SIN; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
John 3:13-15 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. {14} And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, EVEN SO [IN THIS MANNER] MUST THE SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP: {15} That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
Galatians 3:13 “CHRIST HATH REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW, BEING MADE A CURSE FOR US: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”
John 10:17-18 “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, that I might take it again. {18} NO MAN TAKETH IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF. I HAVE POWER TO LAY IT DOWN, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN. This commandment have I received of my Father.”
Acts 2:22-24 “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: {23} HIM, BEING DELIVERED BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL AND FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: {24} Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.”
Philippians 2:5-11 “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: {6} Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: {7} But made himself of no reputation, and TOOK UPON HIM THE FORM OF A SERVANT, and was made in the likeness of men: {8} And being found in fashion as a man, HE HUMBLED HIMSELF, AND BECAME OBEDIENT UNTO DEATH, EVEN THE DEATH OF THE CROSS. {9} Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: {10} That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; {11} And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Our responsibility as true believers is to present the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world, and God will do the saving by the power of the Gospel and the working of His Spirit in the hearts of all those for whom Christ died.
Romans 10:17 “So then FAITH cometh by hearing, and hearing by the WORD OF GOD.”
Romans 1:16 “For I am not ashamed of the GOSPEL OF CHRIST: for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
John 3:7-8 “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. {8} The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is BORN OF THE SPIRIT.”
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As a good German contributor, who do I contact to get the Polak Posse (Wik, Cautious, and other scum) blocked? — Jor (Talk)]] 23:18, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Can you become pregnat (I know there is a chance of it happening) during the time after your period - is that safer than before the time of period. I heard something to that effect, but wasnt sure if it was before or after. I hope you can help.
Someone sugguests to create a the 10 most active Wikipedians of the day and update everyday in Chinese WP. what do u guys think? -- Yacht 09:25, Apr 6, 2004 (UTC)
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See MediaWiki:National_Parks_of_England_and_Wales I've made stubs for the proposed ones, etc but it still want to edit them. Will this sort itself out or do I need to do something? Duncharris 15:14, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I uploaded a new, larger version, of a file, Vassar_Logo.png, but it keeps displaying the old version.
The image page, has the updated image size, because the rectangle to show the image has expanded. but it fills in the old version. I see that the file size of the upload file matches the size of the original on my machine, so I know I uploaded the proper image.
18 hours have gone by and it is still using the old image. Is there a way to tell tell wikipedia to use the new image? NickP 11:41, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)
I have recently recieved a e-mail about a cousin of mine and I don't know what to do it is from a attorney that is representing my cousin it seems that he and his whole family died over their in a car accident. he is looking for information to deal with the estate. is their any way you can check old records? we had no idea he died... can you help up Ron Hunt
There are two main recognised ways of spelling English. British and American. I was wondering, is there any way of customising the spelling on the page so that a reader can automatically get his spelling as the case in date variations? Wiki programmers should take up this issue. Probably an array of words could be cross referenced. Nichalp
I wish the authors of wiki software do add some more HTML tags & attributes. eg SPAN, and attributes: eg 'title'.
What's more is that it doesn't qualify as a "clean" page when I tried validating the main page in w3c.org page validation.
During the games there was a negro athelte in the 400 meters that when he got half way around pulled a muscle. He didnt stop he got up and limped to the finish. I was wandering if you had his name or any information for me where i could please find more out about this moving experince.
I really would like to hear anything you had or know please. I rember there was a commercial with Robin willams that featured this guy.
Thanks for your time
Matthew Scott
Matthewscott1@hotmail.com
How can you get the right to use these images Boeing X-43 on Wikipedia in such a short notice? I am new at Wikipedia and would like to know how you get in touch with the owners, in this case NASA, and get their authorization so fast. Am I totally lost or what, please help me?
After setting up a chatroom for the Italian Wikipedia comunity on Jabber (Free and Open Source Instant Messenger) I noticed that the majority of the people that enter the room asking for information are English speakers. So here we are: I made another chatroom en.wiki@muc.jabber.org with the purpose to host the English Comunity chats. You are all welcome to give discuss the concerns and problems of wikipedia and give advise to the chat voyageurs that enter the room. I think it is a good way to find new adepts, what do you think about it?
Schopenhauer 17:21, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm sure I've seen something written about who can nominate for deletion, and who can vote on VfD, but I can't actually find the reference to it, if it exists. Anyone? DJ Clayworth 22:51, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Junta Oath Out here in the wiki I fight for my edits I get my back into my reverting I don’t need to quickpoll To prove I’m right I don’t need to be forgiven
All right members. Let's congregate at the usual place and time. We've got business to discuss, don't forget to switch codes every once in a while; we were almost found out last month.
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I am having a discussion with Dunk concerning my opinion that his
Yate article is not NPOV and is written in a nonencyclopedic style. I would appreciate any comments, please put them on the article’s Talk Page. Thanks
Adrian Pingstone 16:00, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Looks ok to me -- 80.177.214.204 16:21, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I think someone ought to put up a message somewhere popular, such as the front page, to warn people not to write up April Fools' articles. Ashibaka ✎ 19:13, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
This may be the wrong place to ask this, or it may be answered elsewhere, but can anyone tell me if and when the English Wiki will be changed over to UTF-8? I ask becuase it's hugely inconvenient to work with text that's full of ś's, but for some topics (Sanskrit and associated languages and subjects, in my case), there is no adequate alternative to using unicode characters. This is true even if I eschew Devanagari and work in roman, because standardized roman transliteration requires characters with diacritics that aren't available in latin-1. कुक्कुरोवाच 20:51, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Switching the entire project over to UTF-8 or leaving things in ISO-8859-1 are not the only two choices. It would be straightforward to add a user option for "Edit in UTF-8". When a logged-in user with this option set requests to edit a page, the server translates HTML character references to their UTF-8. When the users submits their edit, the server translates non-ASCII (or non-ISO-8859-1) characters back to the HTML character references for storage in the database. Users who don't set this option would see no differences. See my Editing in UTF-8 feature request. — Gdr 12:33 2004-04-01.
Hi! I am a user from the french wikipédia. I know that some of you were interested by the conversion to utf-8. As you perhaps want to test on your personal wiki before considering the switch, here is the software to convert the MySQL dump : http://mboquien.free.fr/wikiconvert.tar.gz . It converts :
What it doesn't do :
This version is the rewritten version of the one we used (which was really dirty) to convert the french wiki. I rewrote it this afternoon and i tested it on an old cur dump of the french wiki, everything seems to work as expected. For the details, it depends on Qt (no troll on the toolkit used please) and i ran it on Mandrake 10.0. I was reported that it also compiles out of the box on Slackware. If you use another distribution, you may perhaps need to tweak the Makefile to have the correct path for Qt (you should set QTDIR correctly before trying to compile). No need to say that you need the Qt development packages installed. Using it is quite easy. The Makefile produces a wikiconvert executable. To convert you just need to write : ./wikiconvert < dump > converteddump (if you don't use iso8859-1, there is one line to change in wikiconvert.cpp, as explained in the source). On my computer (an athlonXP 2000+ underclocked at 1,5 GHz), converting a 90 Mb dump of cur lasts about 100 seconds. You should ask for a non compressed dump of cur for your test since converting compressed dumps available at http://download.wikipedia.org/ are not suitable for conversion since, once converted, MySQL can't load the dump completely (a problem of lines too long apparently, last time i tried).
I'd be very happy to get some feedback, and i would gladly accept patches to make the program faster/better. :) If you have any question, you can reach me on #fr.wikipedia on Freenode or on my discussion page (french or english only please). Med 09:41, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I once saw someone use some wiki code to insert the current time; however, I've completely forgotten how to do it! I know it's not {{HOUR}}, {{CURRENT_HOUR}}, or anything like that ... so, what is it? [ alerante 21:27, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC) ]
'''Time''': {{CURRENTTIME}} [[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] |
'''Date''': {{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}
Can an admin please merge edit history of Request for comment with Request for Comments? An anon is doing good edits to the article, but alas performed a copy & paste move. — Jor (Talk) 00:21, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm still a bit new, and I have tried to research this subject, but can't seem to find a definitive answer. I'm probably looking in the wrong place, but maybe there isn't one. Or with my luck, I found it, and simply didn't realize that's what it was talking about.
In any case, I was recently looking at the "What Links Here" page of a topic that I like. I noticed that many of the links were through redirects from pages with less than optimal spellings of the topic. Should/May I fix these links so that they point directly to the topic rather than to a redirect topic? Is there a policy about this?
I've done up two quick Wikipedia bookmarklets, one for Mozilla/Firefox/Opera and the other for Internet Explorer — put them on your bookmarks or links toolbar, and you have a button which will prompt you for the name of a Wikipedia node and then take you there. It's just like using the "Go" button at the top/bottom of a page, except you don't have to start off in Wikipedia.
Get the bookmarklets here. If you run into any problems, let me know on my talk page.
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My name is MIke Cushman.I have written and spoken to many people and organizations about my family and many others that have recieved and suffered from illnesses.These illnesses are caused by the constant exposure to emissions from burning coal (coke).
My grandmother died of breast cancer,my mother died of pancreatic cancer,my aunt died of breast cancer, my sister had breast cancer and a masectomy,I had chronic bronchitis,allergies, and a low immunity system.my other sister has reproductive problems(endometriosis).
I grew curious when my mother,sister and aunt were all effected by cancers within a three and one half year period.We all grew up and lived in the same area.Glennveiw/silvertown,where the prevailing west winds blew over the emissions from a chemical factory called the Cyanamid.The Cyanamid had 7 carbide furnaces and,7 air-blast furnaces which burned coal in their processes.I have been trying to get a complete list of the emissions that were given off from the cyanamid.It would cost me allot of money to get a list from the ministry of environment.imagine that ,in order to find out what is killing my family and making others sick I have to pay for information that my tax dollars already paid for.
My sisters volunteered for a gene study to help the cause and it was found that one sister (with breast cancer) had the mutated gene BRCA1and the other sister did not.I phoned The Center for Research in Womens Health and asked them some questions.I was informed that 30,000 genes come from your mother 30,000 genes come from you father,if your mother carried the mutated gene then there is a fifty,fifty chance her eggs will contain the mutated gene.Based on that if you carry the mutated gene you have a fifty fifty chance that your offspring will carry the gene. So I asked,"I can accept that it is heireditary but at some point in time it had to be environmental. Her studies don't cover that.Then I asked have you ever taken the studies you have done and plotted the areas these people lived to see if there if there is a common factor?"Again her studies did not cover that.It seems to me if I wanted to find a cure I would take these studies and find out everything to crush the desease.
I have spoken with the ministry of the environment.They took twenty years of air emission tests.Here is the opening statement of the man that took these tests TD3: Routine air monitoring has been conducted in the Regional Municipality of Niagara since the early 1970s to identify sources of pollution, evaluate their emissions, and institute appropriate control measures. In addition to monitoring specific industrial sources,monitoring of general air quality is conducted in various localities to determine if air quality objectives are being met and to observe trends in air pollution. This report summarizes the results of air monitoring in the region for the year. Detailed information is given for Niagara Falls, Chippawa, Port Colborne, St. Catharines, Thorold, and Welland. Annual publication.
These tests were done on the suspended particulate.They showed that the factories tested were all way over the acceptable limits.The ministry of environment never charged any of the companies by using the results of these tests.From 1974-1993the ministry of environment new that the suspended particulate released from the Norton,General Abrassives,The Fourth Ave,Cyanamid Plant,and The Welland,Gartner road Plant were polluting through air ground and water enough to consider that there would most likely be health problems caused by this. Not once did the ministry of environment tell the ministry of health that there could be reason for concern that over exposure to these toxic pollutants most likely will result from people's exposure to them .
When speaking with the epodemiologist from the Niagara regional health Office I was told they never saw any outstanding cancer or any other illness in the Niagara Region.I asked, "did they ever do a study on the specific regions of Niagara"?Like Silvertown,Chippawa, Thorold,Stamford...She said "no,they only have data on the Niagara Region as a whole,from Fort Erie to Niagara on the Lake,Niagara Falls to Grimsby.How can you determine if there is health problems in a specific area when you don't take your statistic a little farther? These are people we intrust to tell us if everything is in check!That our children can swim there,they can play in that feild,that it is OKto drink the water,that it is OK to breathe those emissions for twenty four/seven!
I have done a study,a study on how our system works,You judge for yourself.
From 1907-1993 a factory called the Cyanamide was allowed to produce calcium cyanide,calcium cyanmide,and many other products.At the time they were the biggest employers in the Niagara area.They used this power to do what ever they wanted in terms of pollution by:air,water,ground,and burrying.They got off on many charges and were given many extensions and freedoms by our governments because of the jobs at stake.This type of blackmailing was allowed to continue till tourism became the main attraction
There were countless complaints and studies done that prove the knowledge was there to prevent cancers,heart desease,brain tumors,chronic bronchitis,low immunity system,allergies, reproductive problems,cell displacia,endometriosis,furans and dioxins,lung desease,from the heavy metals and other chemicals and dusts given off from the Cyanamid processes both emissions and productive processes.
It is proven that fly ash (which is the suspended particulate)given off from the burning of coal(coke) is a major health concern because of the cancers and illnesses that are associated with it.
There are many news paper articles that describe accidents,complaints,concerns, environmental disasters, charges all concerning the Cyanamid corporations.I copied a described the cyanamid processes to a chemist in England.England is one of the highest authorities on the effects of burning coal.He confirmed the illnesses that could be caused by the Cyanamid processes.When searching the inter-net for information,I found information on fly ash that was an almost identical match to the information I recieved from England.
I have a list of people that grew up in Glennview silvertown with many sicknesses. breast cancer,pancreatic cancers,brain cancer(tumors),chronic bronchitis,thyroid problems, endometriosis,cell displacia,fertility problems,allergies,learning disorders,many people that went to Lord Elgin and had learning problems as children...This is not a highly populated area.
I was guided to the Environmental protection act and The Environmental Bill of Rights. Major break through legislation that was encouraging the public to get involved with these policies and regulations on the environment.When I start to use this there is a statute of limitations on air emissions.This statute is only covered for two years.It protects the government and the companies from past mistakes because new studies done by the government have shown that suspended particulate is the number one cause of ;heart desease,cancers,lung desease,and many other illnesses.
There have been studies done on the landfill sight left behind by the Cyanamid Fourth ave facility that stated there was reason for concern that the chemicals there will cause health effects to humans .Yet the land fill sight has had nothing done to it to clean up the land.It is known that there is cyanide ,ammonia,and many other toxic substances left there that are seeping into the Niagara River and the great lakes even though the Cyanamid (cytec)were suppose to cap the entire area with a thick layer of clay and vegitation.From 1907-present the Cyanamid corporation has been allowed to effect our health from generation to generation and the plant closed in 1993!The City is going to call this sight a brown field and reuse the land.New legislation has slackened the laws and permitted this to happen.
So despite all the studies and all the illness and all the pollution,Our tax paying dollars are going to go into redeveloping known contaminated land,never making the company responsable for leaving it behind.and people will continue to pass cancer,heart desease,and many other illnesses on.
Now the New York State is confirming what I am saying about the slack attitude towards Human health from our governments and their environmental regulations.There were many studies done on the factories of the Niagara region and four factories kept coming up. The Norton,General Abrassives,Cyanamid Fourth Ave Facility,Cyanamid Welland Facility. Out of the air emissions tests down town thorold was by far the worst for suspended particulate. The Cyanamid fourth ave ,was over the limits by 100% in some instances and Thorold was way worse than that.Our governments ,Federal,PROVINCIAL,and Municipal are all guilty of negligence.
Our right to a healthy lifestyle has been jeopardized,generations to come still posess the cancer genes,and no-one is accountable for it.
How many people have died pemature deaths?How many more?How many people have had learning disorders,asthmas,allergies,heart and lung desease,cancers?What can be done to get the Cyanamid sights cleaned up?One draining into the Welland River and One The Niagara.
Finally there is a scientist that is doing a study that shows that cancer is caused from emissions first then passed through gene transfer.I find it truly skocking how the almighty dollar comes before humanity. I do not know what can be done but in reading the news paper article on Great Lakes Pollution they seemed to care about where the pollution comes from and how to stop it.The Cyanamid fourth ave Landfill sight has gone untouched for decades while in 1986-87 it was deemed the most worrisome for health hazards.In 1986 This dump waslisted as having the potential to endanger human health. In 1987 there was a report that listed the sight operated between 1896-1920,as one of the 46 in the province which might have burried coal tar wastes.
In a hydrogeological report ,done by Gartner and Lee,it was said 192,000 cubic meters.In 1979 a portion of the waste was removed for desposal sent to the Cyanamid Welland facility.
It was decided that the removal of the waste would out cost the redevelopment of the land hence they were to cap it with clay and plant vegitation.They were never held to even that.
The City of Niagara Falls wants to spend thousands of dollars of tax payers money to do another study on the Cyanimid (cytec)property.Why waste more money on this?why not make the company clean up their mess?They call this a risk assesment,the tests they want to do.The risk has already been taken and the results are quite obvious.How about we get the news paper to write this story and ask the public;How many people that grew up around the Cyanamid have Breast cancer,pancreatic cancer,brain cancer(tomors and anurisms included),learning and behavural problems as children,low immunity systems,heart desease,reproduclive problems...I just recently have been reading about love canal and as a child I remamber this happening,but I never thought so much about it till I noticed the similarities in what I have been studying.I saw a documentary on Love Canal and cannot believe the government's reactions.
The Canadian government has been all but ignoring me and I would like to know how I could go public?The amount of money the government wants for freedom of informations is too much for me.I cannot believe that they will charge me for the information on what they allowed me to breath.If you could guide me to anything that might help me accomplish justice please email me.Thank you for your time.
Sincerly Mike Cushman.cusherman@msn.com
It's me complaining again. I'm a big fan of this poet, but this page is very NPOV. The POV happens to be my own, as far as I know about it, but I don't think this gushing tribute is not an enclycopedia article. Anyone wanna take a look? Ensiform 02:15, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I am trying to find information on my great grandfather's ship building in Singapore around 1854-1870. His name was Daniel Robb originally from Forfar, Scotland.
He had built "Heart's Ease" and "Rainbow" with Mr. Buyers, his partner. In an old newspaper article from Singapore, these ships were called "Sarawack Steamers".
So, I entered "Lloyd's of London" for my search and entered up with your site which is great but I can't seem to get into any sites that will give me any information about ships built outside of the UK and especially in the mid 1800's.
Can you give me any more suggestions for my research? Thanks so much.
See Nigerian scam.
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Do I fill and article with phrases like also known as? Do I make a translation table? I'm concerned about the spectacles article in general but I'm sure this applies to many other pages as well Gbleem 03:43, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This page is too long! Seriously - why do we have 109 open discussions? Are they active? No. At the same time, important ones tend to get buried pretty quickly.
It's all part of a larger trend I've noticed on wikipedia - we have way too much overhead. We log everything! We have a log for protected pages, unprotected pages, failed featured article nominations, featured articles that make it onto the main page, did you know, the village pump, announcements, etc etc ad infinitum. Just to grant someone's request to protect/unprotect, I have to
And guess what? When you have so many steps just to do this kind of stuff, very few people actually do it all - so someone else has to come along later and spring clean them. Last night I removed 80% of the Featured article candidates - it hadn't been cleaned in that long. I'd like to suggest that we stop this ridiculous habit of logging everything and encourage people to be bold in cleaning up pages like this. →Raul654 19:35, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
A suggestion - first, pages like this should be maintained often enough that the job doesn't become insurmountable (as it is now). Second, 95% of the stuff that gets asked here can be flatly deleted - no logging, just the axe. What little is important can be logged to a collective archive (the VP archive) or individual archives. Third, a lot of the traffic that gets posted here should not be here in the first place. To be blunt - we need to discourage people from posting here, and encourage them to do it elsewhere.
Right now, just about the only thing I see that belongs here is the discussion of the takedown request. These issues are covered at the top of the page, but no one reads that. I'm tempted to rewrite it myself to discourage it. →Raul654 21:02, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ie. there should be say three brief summary sentences such as:
The solution can be put into practice or formally added to a Wikipedia namespace for future reference.
By Wikipedia namespace I mean Wikipedia:meta page (as per the problem above). Bensaccount 21:04, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There is a new WikiProject called Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical Hungarian counties. This is similar to the historical Swedish provinces project. Anyone who wants to join may do so.
-- Dagestan
Okay, here's the first one so far: Bihar
Uhhhhhh.....anyone?
Hope Wiki guys can provide us more skins
Is there a way to get a (snapshot of) Wikipedia on CD-rom? I know this is against the interactive nature of Wikipedia, but I would like to have it for my students without internet access. Anybody knows how it can be done? -- Kjetil Halvorsen
There is now a page entitled Kobe Bryant's accuser. It does not currently include a name. I hope that we can have a debate about whether or not to include the woman's name at Talk:Kobe Bryant's accuser. moink 01:15, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I might have asked this before, but I don't remember receiving an answer--is there any special program for using Wikipedia as a way of learning foreign languages? (I am thinking specifically as a way of learning several languages simultaneously). Mjklin 15:04, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
A couple times already today I found I was logged-out for no apparent reason. Did anything change on the Wikipedia end (in other words, is this affecting more people)? — Jor (Talk) 16:49, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
no
Is the text search of Wikipedia permeanently disabled? Every single time I go to use it, it says:
Or am I doing something wrong? LUDRAMAN | T 17:31, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Recently, someone came up with the brilliant idea of the Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial. Could someone do the same for tables? I'm totally confused here, and I'm sure there are many other Wikipedians who would appreciate one as well. LUDRAMAN | T 20:03, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There should be an official guideline that adjectives redirect to nouns. (If there isn't one already).
For example: Renal should redirect to kidney. Happy should redirect to happiness.
I can't think of many cases where this should not occur (perhaps only if the adjective is ambiguous).
Bensaccount 16:33, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
This was actually supposed to be a question. Bensaccount 04:03, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
New - and hense foolishly edited the entry in window with repeated "saves". Ugh. Is there any way to erase the history page? Alex obladida@adelphia.net
There is currently no way for sysops to erase individual revisions of an article so if you have made too many saves, don't worry about it, but try not to do it in future.
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See m:MediaWiki User's Guide: Using tables and How_to_use_tables.
New chatroom at en.wiki@muc.jabber.org. See Wikipedia talk:IRC channels.
There is no program for using Wikipedia as a way of learning foreign languages but there are several language textbooks in progress at Wikibooks.
See Talk:Kobe Bryant's accuser
There is no Wikipedia on CD-rom but you can download the database at Wikipedia:Database download
New Wikiproject at Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical Hungarian counties
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New skins at http://wiki.aulinx.de/
Hello The structure on the ibuprofen stub article is entirely incorrect - the branches extend from the wrong place on the benzene ring and one of the groups themselves is wrong - it should feature an OH group, not a single bonded oxygen mid-branch.
I cannot discuss the article as it does not exist yet. I would be more than happy to write the article when I have finished my current paper, however I wondered whether it was in some way possible to correct or remove the erroneous information before then.
Many thanks strych 16:28, 31 Mar 2004
Because it came up elsewhere (and I was already curious), I have created m:Wikipedians by age - yet another social organization grouping ;) →Raul654 17:59, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
does anyone know a good program that will type into a text program the words you speak into a mic? Kingturtle 02:09, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)~
i have lots of images i've taken recently , like Picture of lillebælt , this would apply to this article: Small_Belt however i have lots more that i couldnt possibly be bothered to write an article about this, What is the proper way to handle this? i've seen some people put them on their User: pages saying anyone can use them under the GFDL, should i do this? -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 09:34, 2004 Mar 31 (UTC)
I found a couple of pages with external links to an online petition. I deleted the links, as I didn't think them appropriate for Wikipedia. Any comments? -- Auximines 10:53, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The beginning of the quote is "Un pays que[qui] ouvre sur la mer..." -- and goes on from there. [could also be "Un pays qu'ouvre sur la mer..."
I do research for a living, and have googled the entire web on this phrase, portions of the phrase, "leopold II" -- and come up with NOTHING. I need the full original quote IN FRENCH and am asking for help from any of your wizards.
Many thanks! Merci beaucoup et gros bisous!
Avril
“Un pays baigné par la mer n’est jamais petit” ? or ask it in fr:wikipédia:le bistro. Greudin
Should meta pages (wikipedia:) be used for discussion?
The reasons for this move seem obvious to me so I left them out but if you want me to state them I will.
I wont copy and paste the content, and therefore am powerless. Help? Bensaccount 23:52, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia: Namespace is not a redirect. Bensaccount 00:52, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
You said "I'm not keen on having redirects from the article namespace to the Wikipedia: one"
This namespace stuff is confusing. I think maybe namespace should be reserved to the definition on the page Wikipedia:namespace and the definition for Wikipedia-namespace on that page should be changed to Meta page (and ditch the Wikipedia-namespace term. Bensaccount 01:06, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Done. (I could have tried to explain what a namespace was for hours with the old version). Bensaccount 01:14, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I dont follow the meta:meta:meta phenomenon. Is it similar to the Wikipedia namespace:Wikipedia:namespace:Wikipedia: Wikipedia namespace phenomenon? (A wikipedia namespace page on wikipedia namespace that defines the wikipedia namespace and the wikipedia wikipedia namespace) Bensaccount 01:27, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I follow,
Heres are the relevant pages: Wikipedia:Glossary, Wikipedia:Namespace, Wikipedia:Meta page, Wikipedia: Wikipedia namespace.
The way I see it, namespace defines things such as the Main-namespace, the talk-namespace, etc. Meta pages have their own namespace (not to be conbfused with Meta-Wikimedia.) Meta page namespace is used to provide information on wikipedia. I think this is clear, agreed? Bensaccount 01:42, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but using Wikipedia namespace is just as bad. The wikipedia term is also overused. Any namespace on wikipedia could be referred to as a wikipedia namespace (as opposed to a namespace).
I propose we create a new term for meta page namespace aka wikipedia wikipedia namespace. Bensaccount 02:01, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I see no reason to stop calling it the Wikipedia namespace. Angela . 18:24, Apr 6, 2004 (UTC)
I do. See Wikipedia: namespace. Bensaccount 17:02, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I haven't read carefully enough to be sure someone didn't already say this: at least some of the confusion is between "article namespace" in the sense of
-- Jerzy (t) 17:44, 2004 Apr 7 (UTC)
Hey! I just noticed somebody (in fact two people: first Timwi, then Eloquence) has changed MediaWiki:Wikipediapage, which is displayed when you're editing, e.g. here, or are on a Wikipedia talk: page, so that it now says "view project page" instead of "view meta page". Good edit in my opinion; much less ambiguous. - IMSoP 22:40, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hello all. In the interest of getting the article unprotected, I've called for a vote/poll at Talk:Fascism on the question of whether the Soviet Union and other communist regimes should be listed as fascist states on that page. Please come and express your opinion. john 04:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The addition of some substantiation or at least a reference to the agency or entity, or literature which proves the allegation that Milosevic' had Stambolic' murdered would improve the article. Can anyone add to this aspect of the history/biography? I think it's probably true, but what I'm asking is for some more rigorous historical writing.
Thank you, and best wishes to all, John-Peter Creighton, Tattnall County, Georgia, USA
I got two concerns, number one a couple of lists have been rounding my mind: Look at Women's boxing and see the small list of female boxers we have there. Should we change the name of List of boxers to List of male boxers, take out the list of female boxers in the article about women's boxing and make a List of female boxers?. There are about 100 more or less known women boxers, and we already have a precedent anyways, look at List of actors and List of actresses. On that same line I was also thinking about a list of teen-idols.
Second concern: I have obtained many, many copyright guarantees for photos t be used in airline articles. While most photographers have accepted our policy of not giving credit under the photo itself, a couple of them lately have expressed as a requisite that I do credit them under the photo. Can I do this? I know that many wikipedians dont like that, and that its basically a rule not to credit the photographer under the photo, But I was wondering if I could put a note under the photo, a note that would look integrated to the article.
Thanks and God bless!
your opinion on the matter here (hehe!):
Some Wikipedians may not like it but moral rights outside the US makes that unimportant, since it may be a legal right the photographers have, independent of copyright status. In any case, it's polite to give credit. Please do, though in a reduced size font so it isn't unduly prominent. If there's any actual policy on this, please let me know. If there's not, we might as well create one and say that it's polite and should normally be done, though as a courtesy. Jamesday 07:25, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Several people are trying a test which may help Google to find new articles quickly. User and user talk pages are very highly ranked by Google because they have lots of links to them. The test is to include {{msg:newpagelinks}} at the top of your user and/or talk page. As the test progresses we'll possibly tweak the message to see if we can find a combination which helps Google the most. This came about after Dori noticed that articles linked from his sandbox appeared in the Google index very quickly. Jamesday 07:37, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The link Talk:Fundamentalism is broken. It was too large and I archieved a lot. The archive is at Talk:Fundamentalism/Archive1 and functions well.
I would appreciate it if someone was able to make the talk page function again and, explain what went wrong. GerardM 07:53, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
In response to a request by Seth Ilys, I've put seconds in the timestamps on RC. What do you think? -- Tim Starling 14:42, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)
I've been perusing the en.wikipedia stats for the last month's trends. Here's the headline figures:
10 most popular items (excluding Main Page, Current Events, Special pages, admin pages):
10 most popular search terms:
More at http://en.wikipedia.org/stats/usage_200403.html .
Is there some arcane place to list this information of which I am not aware? My understanding was that the place to list ban requests was Rfc... I've done that, but there have been precious few comments thus far, and the 24 hour emergency ban is going to be over sooner or later and User:141 is likely going to continue his/her/its rampage. Anyone care to point me to the place where this can get more publicity... other than here of course. -- Dante Alighieri | Talk 16:41, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)
Just came across a weird one. If you go to the article Age of Apocalypse, you will see that it is broken up into a number of subections: "Storyline", "Characters and affiliations", and "External Links". But if you click on the individual Edit button to edit the "Characters and affiliations", you get a funny little subsection entitled "Comics". A quick check of the entire article edit reveals that this whole subsection is commented out using HTML <!-- --> comments - but the individual Edit links are missing this fact, so the &Section=number part of the edit link is pointing to the wrong place. So, is the Village Pump the right place for a bug report like this? -- Stormie 04:23, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
This page is too long.
This page is too long! Seriously - why do we have 109 open discussions? Are they active? No. At the same time, important ones tend to get buried pretty quickly.
It's all part of a larger trend I've noticed on wikipedia - we have way too much overhead. We log everything! We have a log for protected pages, unprotected pages, failed featured article nominations, featured articles that make it onto the main page, did you know, the village pump, announcements, etc etc ad infinitum. Just to grant someone's request to protect/unprotect, I have to
And guess what? When you have so many steps just to do this kind of stuff, very few people actually do it all - so someone else has to come along later and spring clean them. Last night I removed 80% of the Featured article candidates - it hadn't been cleaned in that long. I'd like to suggest that we stop this ridiculous habit of logging everything and encourage people to be bold in cleaning up pages like this. →Raul654 19:35, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
A suggestion - first, pages like this should be maintained often enough that the job doesn't become insurmountable (as it is now). Second, 95% of the stuff that gets asked here can be flatly deleted - no logging, just the axe. What little is important can be logged to a collective archive (the VP archive) or individual archives. Third, a lot of the traffic that gets posted here should not be here in the first place. To be blunt - we need to discourage people from posting here, and encourage them to do it elsewhere.
Right now, just about the only thing I see that belongs here is the discussion of the takedown request. These issues are covered at the top of the page, but no one reads that. I'm tempted to rewrite it myself to discourage it. →Raul654 21:02, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ie. there should be say three brief summary sentences such as:
The solution can be put into practice or formally added to a Wikipedia namespace for future reference.
By Wikipedia namespace I mean Wikipedia:meta page (as per the problem above). Bensaccount 21:04, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The Hindu, one of India's leading English daily newspapers had around a half a page feature today [10] on wikis from The Guardian( I think). There was a one para write-up on Wikipedia which was referred to as the impressive Wikipedia:-). KRS 08:47, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Questions and answers, after a period of inactivity, will be moved to other relevant sections of the wikipedia (such as the FAQ pages), placed in the Wikipedia:Village pump archive (if it is of general interest), or deleted (if it has no long-term value).
This is what I found in the Wikipedia:Deletion log. It seems nothing can be taken for granted these days, not even the seven day period and of course the discussion on VfD. All our sophisticated rules won't work if sysops abuse their power in that way. I'm going to post that message on Timwi's user page, too. <KF> 20:12, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
->reference desk
Something weird--clicking My watchlis in left menu bar gives:
A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wikipedia), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=40082 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040329180705' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC from within function "wfSpecialWatchlist". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error 28 from table handler". Elf | Talk 18:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
--> m:MediaWiki feature request and bug report discussion
See m:Variables
Should the English Wikipedia use Unicode? Continued at Wikipedia:Unicode.
Hi,
I've been surfing the site and found that the Portuguese version of Wikipedia is on Portugal's Portuguese. This is most inconvenient for Brazilian users, for, even though we speak Portuguese, it's different enough to prevent integration on the same site-version. Can this be changed? Can a "Brazilian Portuguese" version be created? Help!
Thanks,
Helen
See examples at Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense
Online petitions are unlikely to be relevant to article pages.
I ran the wikipedia main page in [ Bobby] which checks web pages for accessiblity issues.
I strongly feel that Wikipedia software writers should help make pages more accesibility friendly so that 'challenged people' should not have a problem. What do you think? Nichalp
For the record, I checked our main page for w3c compliance, and it failed. see here →Raul654 19:32, Mar 29, 2004 (UTC)
hello sir , compliment of the season to you sir ,my main reason mailing you is just because i want to study in abroad just to stsndardise my education ilook up all over the world and i believe you the only person that can help me.
THANKS SIR.
I'm currently looking around for a reliable and not-too-expensive UK broadband ISP, and thought I'd ask fellow Wikipedians what they would recommend. Support for Linux would be advantageous but not wholly essential (I'm running a dual boot Red Hat 9 / Win 98 environment). Anyone got any suggestions? -- ChrisO 23:16, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
If you're using Mozilla or one of its derivatives (Netscape 6+, Firefox, Galeon, Kmeleon ..), you may want to try the option "Show edit toolbar" in your user preferences. While it previously would only show an infobox for Mozilla, you can now also use it in the way it is intended: select text, click one of the toolbar buttons, and it is formatted accordingly. If you do not select text, you will still get an example text.-- Eloquence * 09:24, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC) (signed using toolbar)
undo
seems to have no effect after using the toolbar. Please consider this a suggestion rather than a criticism, though, and I've no idea whether it's even possible - I wouldn't know where to begin to get it doing what it does do. (ooh, that's funky, it trims the trailing space when you select a word!)Hey, I haven't been following the Gdansk vs. Danzig debate all that closely, so I don't know if there is still any debate over what to call the current city, but I did some research that might be of some interest to the community. I looked at all the Sun Media newspapers that I am able to search electronically for instances of both words...so this isn't a definitive survey, it just shows what has been printed in a few Canadian newspapers, going back to 1989 at the earliest.
(To save space, I've moved it to User:Adam Bishop/Gdansk vs. Danzig) Adam Bishop 18:14, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Hi, everyone!
For some time I'm monitoring some articles that are bone of contention between Polish and German (and sometimes even Australian - hi Adam!) wikipedians. What worries me is the fact that people that could contribute heavily to other areas instead engage in petty edit wars, fighting on every word.
Perharps we need some general policies on factual accuracy of articles? Even if this won't discourage parties involved, the others would be albe to point them out the policy breach.
So this is what I propose:
Forseti 10:46, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
can somebody answer this question? why is American Football so popular that nearly everybody watch the superbowl? i mean i like Football very much and i just wanna figure out what is so special about it?!
re-interprets as 'popular in America and selected other countries' given that 'Football' (aka Soccer) is arguably far more popular world-wide.
User:Yaohua2000 at Chinese WP got pissed off after people objected to his user page (like this), so he requested about 9 pages started by him and afterwards exclusively edited by him to be deleted. Should we fufill that request? One admin already did. My understanding is that giving to WP is a one-way no-return charity street, but I'm not sure the legality behind it. So I asked on WP IRC, but only Adam replied, saying "I believe that is the gist of the message at the bottom of the editing page".
This couldn't have been the first incident like this? The request sounds logical, but is it compliant to the GNU Wiki "save page" click? I'd surprised if requests of this type doesn't spring up again, and again. Perhaps we should develop a meta or WP namespace page, clear and loud, just for newbies on this topic. -- Menchi 04:57, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
No, sorry, if he wants to list them on VfD, then they can be discussed on their own merits, but he no longer owns them. RickK | Talk 05:00, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There is an argument known to Meatball denizens which says that people should be allowed to dissociate themselves from what they wrote: the right to vanish. One of the reasons given for maintaining this policy is that it allows people to leave quietly and gracefully, rather than harbouring hate and turning to vandalism. -- Tim Starling 05:18, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I would say that legally we can keep them up, but the right to vanish sounds like a good idea, and it wouldn't hurt the Wikipedia too much to delete them. So let's do that, as a general rule: If you are the only contributor to an article, you can request its deletion. If somelse edits it at all, though, it has to stay. Meelar 05:23, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I think u r a bit radical. I don't think many people here like ur user page too. maybe u can notice that the people here modified ur user page as well, not just shizhao. and, i think Meelar means that "If you are the only contributor to an article, you can request its deletion", but not request the copyright back. -- Yacht 05:39, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I should say, in defence of the "absolutist" Chinese board, that when we've faced this issue in the past, we've refused to delete the articles. Instead, the person who is leaving often requests a name change. So it would be a bit hypocritical to say to the Chinese administrators that they definitely should remove the articles. This decision should be up to them. The law has nothing to say on this: either option is legal. Note that the Meatball article gave name-changing as one possible way to vanish from a community. -- Tim Starling 05:45, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
not a big deal, he just used tag div to override the navigation and site skin of WP. I am okay with that, not like it though. ( here) -- Yacht 05:53, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I am not judging, nor willing to get involved into an arguement. but i would like to say that i hate that pic, which reminds me of a GD Japanese businessman providing such products. disgusting... poor kitty. :'( -- Yacht 07:08, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
Abstract currently redirects to abstraction, which is about the concept of abstractness and has see alsos for a number of other uses of the word. (1) What would be the appropriate name for an article about "abstract" as used in the context of peer reviewed articles: a summary paragraph placed prior to the introduction, often with different line justification (blockquote?) from the rest of the article, used to help readers determine the purpose of the paper. (2) Would it be more appropriate for abstract to be a disambig page for the many other meanings of the word? Replies might be best on the Talk:Abstraction page. -- zandperl 04:16, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is there a tutorial where I can learn how to write those little messages, like {{msg:tolkein}} or whatever? Thanks very much, Meelar 03:30, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Chemistry question moved to Wikipedia:Reference desk. moink 17:12, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Not quite sure how to answer you but appreciate your question on the Munichen question regarding artist Robert Vost - Munichen was the former name of the city you mention and was the city of Monks at that time so yes to your question. Since it is titled Munichen and I have only one reference on the internet to this under found papers of someone, I am would love to find out more. If you can help, thank you very much.
Best regards, Marilyn Newcomb
Why can't the four tildes display date and UTC time in the ISO 8601 international standard format, which is the best choice for a worldwide audience? Colloquial variations on date/time format vary widely from country to country. Why push any particular, arbitrary colloquialism, instead of simply using the ISO international standard date and time format? W3C uses the ISO international standard format. In other words, why doesn't the four-tilde string display "username 2004-03-21, 19:22 (UTC)"? That's all we need for the signature string. It's universal. As is now, even if we select the ISO 8601 standard in our preferences, the four-tilde string still displays in an arbitrary, nonstandard format. Can Wikipedia be upgraded to the international standard date and time format (for the automatic signature string)? Thanks. -- Simian 01:36, 2004 Mar 22 (UTC)
Because it's not universal. It will confuse Americans, who wouldn't be able to figure out if 03-12 is March 12th or December 3rd. RickK | Talk 01:38, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
ISO 8601 is a good machine-readable date format, but it's not particularly nice-looking. You don't see the Chicago Manual of Style recommending it, do you? Also, our audience is English-speaking, not worldwide. Each language can choose their own date format. For example, on ja, dates look like "02:24 2004年3月22日 (UTC)" -- Tim Starling 02:28, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
My thoughts--in Wikipedia, the info I'd guess that most are interested in when looking at edits is the time, as in "what has changed since I logged on this morning?". So in WP, time before date would seem to make sense. Yes, we handicapped Americans recognize 24-hr as military time and understand it. Dates are so much easier to understand when the month name is used; I don't know why it would be "better" to use any representation that includes only numbers when it's people (not databases) that are reading the information. Elf | Talk 17:44, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Can someone please fix Wikipedia:Votes for deletion? Right now it's impossible to edit because section editing is unusable. It seems some section header has been covered by a comment, and as of now, you can't get to the proper section when you try to edit. RickK | Talk 01:32, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hm. It works now. :) RickK | Talk 01:32, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I don't understand how to use section editing yet. Could someone explain, keeping in mind that many people use image-, javascript-, and CSS-disabled browsing for portability across platforms worldwide? In this case, can I not use section editing, or does it not show up on the screen? Or, does it show up and work only on Windows OS but not others? Thanks. -- 66.90.171.93 00:53, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump&action=edit§ion=117
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IE does this, and I consider it a bug: particularly annoying when you see something&something else
, which breaks on everything else. -
IMSoP 19:33, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)A few hours back I added 487 links to Wikipedia:Links to disambiguating pages by doing a little automatic sorting and culling of "what links here" from both Wikipedia:Disambiguation and MediaWiki:Disambig (I also hand-cleaned those lists to remove stuff that obviously shouldn't be there, never fear :). I've noticed, however, that these lists are both far from complete - I assume the Wiki software stops the query after a certain number of links have been found. I want to get them all, but SQL querying is currently disabled because it's so dangerous. Who should I talk to to get a full listing of these links? Bryan 00:22, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
On a related note - a lot of our music pages are lacking. Now, I googled for "public domain music" and I found a lot of sites. The preferred format for sheet music is pdf, and the most common format for public domain music is midi. Are there objections to these formats? I know PDF is an open standard. →Raul654 05:56, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)
I have an mp3 of Enrico Caruso singing La Donna E Mobile (1908). It would definitely be a beneficial addition to the Rigoletto and Enrico Caruso articles. However, I have a gripe to make. Why is .ogg the preferred format for sound files? Next to wav, mp3 is the universal format for sound files. (I think I heard somewhere that some specific mp3 formats are patented, while ogg is totally open). Second, if we do have to use ogg, can someone recommend a good (no strings attached, no registration, etc) mp3<->ogg converter? →Raul654 20:18, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)
If anyone is interested, I got the software working. The sound file is here.
I'm following the contributions of a certain anonymous user because I have reason to believe many of hir edits are not serious and/or accurate. To Dover Athletic s/he has added the sentence "They were relegated from the Conference division in the 2001/ 2002 season to the Dr Martens league." I know nothing about British soccer, could someone check this page and its accuracy? Thanks. moink 19:23, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
S/he also added reference to a programming language called "DarkBasic" to AMOS BASIC programming language. Does this exist? moink 19:28, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I Have Looked EVERYWHERE For A Good Sized COmmand List With Descriptions Of Usage For BasicA. If You Can Help Me, E-Mail: sythe2112@yahoo.com
Would it be possible to export Did you know... in some form as a widget for people's webpages? It would be a nice promotional tool, as well as just a neat thing. -- Spikey 05:54, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I uploaded Wachovia_logo.gif, then realized that I could in fact convert it. So I uploaded Wachovia_logo.png. But this had been resized, and after reading Wikipedia:logos, I learned I wasn't supposed to resize logos, so I reuploaded Wachovia_logo.png at the original size. So now there's two versions of Wachovia_logo.png. I know Wachovia_logo.gif belongs in vfd, but what about the OLD version of Wachovia_logo.png? If I put a vfd in Image:Wachovia_logo.png, will that automatically apply to the current image, or how can I specify the older image? -- Golbez 06:29, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I really really really want to know what this means, as I haven't been able to look it up anywhere else...in Elvish dictionaries and all.Thank you. "Avanie mir mornie"
Would someone (anyone) with any ability to properly do so, please sort this list to some basic general subcategories, so that its not four pages long? Thanks in advance. - SV (talk) 04:33, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
Why are some movie articles designated with '(movie)' while others use '(film)'? For example, Tron (film) or The Haunted Mansion (movie). Is there a reason for the use of either word, or does it depend on the whim of whoever creates the article? Is there a standard to stick by? Brian Kendig 04:21, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The article List of Disney people includes a link to Frank Thomas -- but the article is about Frank Thomas the baseball player, not Frank Thomas the Disney animator. How should this be resolved? Should I create a new page named 'Frank Thomas (animator)', should I rename the existing one to 'Frank Thomas (baseball player)', should I name them 'Frank Thomas (1)' and 'Frank Thomas (2)', or what? Brian Kendig 04:16, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There was an entry about Jesselyn Radack, but it vanished. I restored it but the deletion does not show up in the history. Nor does it appear in the deletion log as far as I can see. With google it still cannot be found. How can I find out who deleted it?
See Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion. silsor 19:00, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
If nobody has any objection I'm going to remove the vfd notice from all the lists that User: 141 had nominated for deletion, because he was trolling and nobody wants these things deleted. Mintguy (T) 20:39, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Should Wikipedia:Cleanup be archived every week no matter what has been done to the entries? Give your opinion Wikipedia talk:Cleanup#Archiving. Thanks, Dori | Talk 18:22, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
I'd be grateful for any 'pedian fluent in Arabic to take a look at the list of air forces. I have Roman alphabet transliterations for many of the Arab air forces listed there, but not the original language versions. Cheers -- Rlandmann 11:07, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate to let Wikipedia express preference for particular www-sites, as in this case Webster's online dictionary, see
contributions by anon user 24.94.24.107?
--
Ruhrjung 09:45, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm referring to the "selected anniversaries" for March 20th on the front page.
There should be a rule that adjectives are redirects to nouns. (If there isn't one already).
For example: Renal should redirect to kindey. Happy should redirect to happyness.
I can't think of many cases where this should not occur (perhaps only if the adjective is ambiguous). Bensaccount 16:33, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Pursuant to a related discussion on #wp (b/t sethIlys & imran), here is a suggestion for improving compliance of well-meaning parties with our copright reqs:
Here is an example notice which complies with the GFDL, for an article that uses the Wikipedia article Foo. Note that it links directly to a copy of both the GFDL and the article:
- This article is licensed under the <a href=" http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html">GNU Free Documentation License</a>. It uses material from the <a href=" http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo">Wikipedia article "Foo"</a>.
("Foo" and the Wikipedia URL must of course be changed to match the article you are using.)
For other acceptable notice formats, and more information on your rights and responsibilities under our copyright license, read on.
+sj + 18:03, 2004 Mar 29 (UTC)
Hi there, there seems to be an error made by ?my browser?, anyway, look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Greeneye&diff=0&oldid=2985654 , i didn't put in all those blank lines, sorry for that, i just aligned the image. Regards 134.2.226.113 21:45, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC) (from de:)
Hello The structure on the ibuprofen stub article is entirely incorrect - the branches extend from the wrong place on the benzene ring and one of the groups themselves is wrong - it should feature an OH group, not a single bonded oxygen mid-branch.
I cannot discuss the article as it does not exist yet. I would be more than happy to write the article when I have finished my current paper, however I wondered whether it was in some way possible to correct or remove the erroneous information before then.
Many thanks
~Deborah~ ~31 March 2004~
JOR is anti-Poland vandal! Why he is not blocked?!!? WARNING: MAXIMUS REX is JOR sockpuppet.
I add new QUCIKPOLL for JOR POV Pusher. Please vote!!
USER:JOR is anti-Poland VANDAL. ==THIS IS REMOVED BY JOR SUPPORTER SO IF DELETED PLEASE ADD BACK==
I'm sure I will like the place and be a Wikipedian! Wik Lir 20:49, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I was just trying to clean up some of the links on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion and suddenly the page went haywire. (I hope it wasn't something I did.) Who can we notify to fix it? Rossami 23:04, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I got an Almanac here from Germany, 1980. The publishing house can't be found on the Internet; No idea what's happened to them. Anyway, my question:
The book consists mostly of tables and short descriptions/explanations of words. I don't think the content is reproducible in any other way, as the tables are usually made up of only few words. Can I quote stuff from there? One example would be Nobility, where I just expanded the list of nobility titles. Even if I wouldn't have used the book as reference, I doubt the table would have looked much different... so, what's the answer to this? The book is full of information that I could obtain otherwise (e.g. by compiling tables myself out of several other books or websites), so I don't really have an idea on what copyright says for this...
Oh, and it's only about text. I wouldn't dare to scan any image and put it on Wikipedia. :) -- Tomcat 11:32, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
User:666 says on his User page, My edits are licensed under the BSD license.. Can someone tell us if this is compatible with the GFDL? RickK | Talk 21:02, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Just for your information - this is hardly a new question, but it seems that some on English wikipedia say making clear where the text is from in summary comment area is enough.
There has been discussion on virtually the same question at Japanese Wikipedia over these three months. We may come to a concensus on one particular interpretation of GFDL so that there is enough clarity about what is okay and what is not.
Currently, it seems to me that we are going to say simple cut-n-pasting from one page to another is in violation. Some more details are in meta:User:Tomos/Legal discussion on Japanese Wikipedia#GFDL and Wikipedia in general.
If there is going to be any similar solution, I hope you can announce it at wikilegal-l so that we (en. and ja.) do not end up with having two incompatible interpretations.
We are also talking about the possibility to introduce within-site public domain license so that every edits after the introduction could become dual licensed and they can be archived, copied, translated, integrated, etc. without worrying strict compliance in GFDL. The gist of license is that the contributors allow any modification or reproduction of their contributions within wikipedia of any languages and possibly to other projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation.
Another solution is to introduce a new function by which a user can copy an entire page (text + history). See, meta:MediaWiki feature request and bug report discussion#Copy this page.
Tomos 03:34, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
For the last half hour or so, when trying to access my watchlist I get:
SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=7534 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040328001448' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC
I have observed the following on the danish wikipedia.
If a person is using Opera (7.23), the following is happening on a page when Save page is pushed:
Text as the following ”åben by” is changed to ?åben by?.
BrianHansen 21:07, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC) ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruger:BrianHansen)
Should meta pages (wikipedia:) be used for discussion? Bensaccount 23:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to list all subpages of a particular user page? Is using what links here from the user page reliable? In particular I'd like to list all subpages of User:Information-Ecologist and User:Information-Habitat (who may be the same person). The reason is that I've listed some of them for deletion but I seem to have missed at least one that should have been included, so the next step seems to be to get a list of them all. TIA Andrewa 00:50, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Something weird--clicking My watchlis in left menu bar gives:
A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wikipedia), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=40082 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040329180705' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC from within function "wfSpecialWatchlist". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error 28 from table handler".
Elf | Talk 18:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Is there a list anywhere of the various {msg:} codes? -- User Talk:Lukobe
Hello. We are a research group and we are doing a social experiment: We choose articles that may be controversial or frequently vandalized. We submit a small useful edit but we use user names and edit summaries which may make the administrators think we vandalized the article. In this case we chose the name of a hard-banned user ( Michael) hoping to make you believe Michael3 was his sock puppet. We thought the user name and the edit summary (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!) would deceive an administrator to revert the article without checking our useful contributions. We have performed many similar experiments in Wikipedia and other online communities. In this way we can understand how much respect a community has for democracy and personal freedom, whether a community is healthy, whether its administrators are doing their job well, and how paranoid they turn when they face strange vandalism-like edits (that aren't vandalism). We are a large group and our online experiments are part of a major psychological and sociological research. We are very concerned with freedom over the Internet and we have faced many unreasonable and paranoid reverts and blockings by the administrators of the Wikipedia community. Dante Alighieri was successfully deceived and blocked Michael3 noting "probably Michael" (a hard-banned user). But Michael3 was just adding useful links (for example, wikifying dates, i.e. turning dates in active blue links) and his only "sins" were his user name (similar to Michael) and his mysterious edit summaries (ha ha ha !!!). Michael3 is not Michael, he is a member of our research group. You didn't know that, because this knowledge could destroy our experiment. Michael3 could be just an innocent new user. Now we have shown that the Wikipedia community has turned paranoid over possible vandalism and unreasonably restricts the individual liberties. This has to stop. We also ask the community to take care of Dante Alighieri since he blocked Michael3 too easily, probably without checking his edits. We'll continue our experiments and we hope that your community will understand that freedom is more important than security. All yours, Michael33.
p.s. attempts to use the Nuremberg Code or any other device to bar politically oriented research would run up hard against the First Ammendment. And of course, the US Central Intellegence Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency and other tradecraft agencies worldwide routinely conduct covert research. Filibuster 04:24, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC) ~o~
Nearly one in four humans alive in 2004 who are incarcerated in prisons are incarcerated in United States prisons. The United States has been identified throughout Asia, Africa, parts of Europe and in South America as the most egregious human rights violator operating in the world today. Because of the United States' economic and political structure, the individual citizens of the United States are deemed the perpetrators of these human rights violations, with culpability roughly correlated to economic status and ambition for social prestige.
Resisting government targets has proven an ineffectual means of confronting the psychological environment that fosters human rights violations, so resistance activists have turned to strategies that target the psychological source of human rights violations. These psychological forums include, especially, electronic communications forums because such forums are proportionally used by classes most likely to be involved in oppression of other humans. Wikipedia has been identified as a communication node frequented by Americans and other Western capitalists who enjoy casual repetition of both oppressive mythology and of punitive administrative styles. Specifically, resistance cells reviewing Wikipedia have identified quintessential examples of administrative climates whereby attacks against persons have been preferred over fair and consistent enforcement of codified laws or rules.
This discovery has led to development of tactics that identify and target individual members of Wikipedia who most often deploy the tactics that, when mirrored in legal settings, comprise the basis of methodological human rights violations. In plain language, administrators who ban Wikipedia contributors for trolling are now considered to be the equivalent of US police officers who use profiling techniques to target members of ethnic or economic minorities. Tactics for exposing and opposing these oppressive administrative approaches in this and other Wikis have been developed, tested and published. This is one of many notices intended to advise visitors to this site that they are being scrutinized, that oppressive administrators are being targeted, that resistance to oppression is accepted as an affective tactic in this environment, and that those who engage in resistance can enjoy the mutual support of loosely organized world-wide resistance who intend to mitigate circumstances that has a small portion of the worlds population incarcerating a far disproportionate portion of the worlds citizens. Resisting a growing trend toward concentration camps is far more important than accomplishing the putative goals of a recreational project such as Wikipedia. Apt Repsonse 18:38, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
--> User talk:Apt Repsonse The supression of this dialogue from this page evidences the substance of complaints detailed in the now-censored notice. Apt Response
Has the page The resolution of the Dreyfus Affair ever been written? Or has it become lost due to restructuring? David.Monniaux 16:06, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
MEL GIBSON’S MOVIE
"THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST"
Because “The Passion of the Christ” movie adds a lot of material that is not included in the Bible, it adds man’s lies to the crucifixion account. From what I have read about it, the movie is focused on Christ’s physical death – and thereby misses the spiritual point about Christ’s suffering the equivalent of eternal wrath of God for the sins of His chosen people.
Since Jesus Christ is Eternal God, it is blasphemy to make any kind of an “image” of Christ in ANY form. Although it does not do much good to cite Scriptures to people who are not saved and who do not place themselves under the authority of God’s Word, these are the words of God to the whole human race:
Exodus 20:4-5 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: {5} Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” (This is repeated in Deuteronomy 5:8-9)
Romans 1:22-25 “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, {23} And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. {24} Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: {25} Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.”
Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book [the Bible], If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: {19} And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
The movie places a great emphasis on Christ’s PHYSICAL punishment and death. However, if given the opportunity, we true believers should be prepared to talk about the SPIRITUAL aspects of the Atonement. We should stress that Christ in His SOUL EXISTENCE endured the equivalent of ETERNITY IN HELL for those who were CHOSEN to be saved from BEFORE the foundation of the world. That is why Christ’s SOUL (or Spirit) is mentioned in the following verses:
Isaiah 53:10 “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make HIS SOUL an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.”
Psalms 16:10 “For thou wilt not leave MY SOUL in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
The secular world is concerned about whom to BLAME for Christ’s death on the cross. However, we need to remember that Christ became man in order to pay for the sins of His people. It was predetermined by the COUNSEL OF THE GODHEAD BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD that Jesus would be “made sin”, “lifted up” and become a “curse” for us. In that sense, we are ALL to blame for Christ’s death:
2 Corinthians 5:21 “FOR HE [GOD THE FATHER] HATH MADE HIM [GOD THE SON] TO BE SIN FOR US, WHO KNEW NO SIN; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
John 3:13-15 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. {14} And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, EVEN SO [IN THIS MANNER] MUST THE SON OF MAN BE LIFTED UP: {15} That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
Galatians 3:13 “CHRIST HATH REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW, BEING MADE A CURSE FOR US: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:”
John 10:17-18 “Therefore doth my Father love me, because I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, that I might take it again. {18} NO MAN TAKETH IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF. I HAVE POWER TO LAY IT DOWN, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN. This commandment have I received of my Father.”
Acts 2:22-24 “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: {23} HIM, BEING DELIVERED BY THE DETERMINATE COUNSEL AND FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: {24} Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.”
Philippians 2:5-11 “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: {6} Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: {7} But made himself of no reputation, and TOOK UPON HIM THE FORM OF A SERVANT, and was made in the likeness of men: {8} And being found in fashion as a man, HE HUMBLED HIMSELF, AND BECAME OBEDIENT UNTO DEATH, EVEN THE DEATH OF THE CROSS. {9} Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: {10} That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; {11} And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Our responsibility as true believers is to present the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world, and God will do the saving by the power of the Gospel and the working of His Spirit in the hearts of all those for whom Christ died.
Romans 10:17 “So then FAITH cometh by hearing, and hearing by the WORD OF GOD.”
Romans 1:16 “For I am not ashamed of the GOSPEL OF CHRIST: for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
John 3:7-8 “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. {8} The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is BORN OF THE SPIRIT.”
God does not need the blasphemous lies of men to accomplish His salvation program.
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As a good German contributor, who do I contact to get the Polak Posse (Wik, Cautious, and other scum) blocked? — Jor (Talk)]] 23:18, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Can you become pregnat (I know there is a chance of it happening) during the time after your period - is that safer than before the time of period. I heard something to that effect, but wasnt sure if it was before or after. I hope you can help.
Someone sugguests to create a the 10 most active Wikipedians of the day and update everyday in Chinese WP. what do u guys think? -- Yacht 09:25, Apr 6, 2004 (UTC)
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See MediaWiki:National_Parks_of_England_and_Wales I've made stubs for the proposed ones, etc but it still want to edit them. Will this sort itself out or do I need to do something? Duncharris 15:14, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I uploaded a new, larger version, of a file, Vassar_Logo.png, but it keeps displaying the old version.
The image page, has the updated image size, because the rectangle to show the image has expanded. but it fills in the old version. I see that the file size of the upload file matches the size of the original on my machine, so I know I uploaded the proper image.
18 hours have gone by and it is still using the old image. Is there a way to tell tell wikipedia to use the new image? NickP 11:41, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)
I have recently recieved a e-mail about a cousin of mine and I don't know what to do it is from a attorney that is representing my cousin it seems that he and his whole family died over their in a car accident. he is looking for information to deal with the estate. is their any way you can check old records? we had no idea he died... can you help up Ron Hunt
There are two main recognised ways of spelling English. British and American. I was wondering, is there any way of customising the spelling on the page so that a reader can automatically get his spelling as the case in date variations? Wiki programmers should take up this issue. Probably an array of words could be cross referenced. Nichalp
I wish the authors of wiki software do add some more HTML tags & attributes. eg SPAN, and attributes: eg 'title'.
What's more is that it doesn't qualify as a "clean" page when I tried validating the main page in w3c.org page validation.
During the games there was a negro athelte in the 400 meters that when he got half way around pulled a muscle. He didnt stop he got up and limped to the finish. I was wandering if you had his name or any information for me where i could please find more out about this moving experince.
I really would like to hear anything you had or know please. I rember there was a commercial with Robin willams that featured this guy.
Thanks for your time
Matthew Scott
Matthewscott1@hotmail.com
How can you get the right to use these images Boeing X-43 on Wikipedia in such a short notice? I am new at Wikipedia and would like to know how you get in touch with the owners, in this case NASA, and get their authorization so fast. Am I totally lost or what, please help me?
After setting up a chatroom for the Italian Wikipedia comunity on Jabber (Free and Open Source Instant Messenger) I noticed that the majority of the people that enter the room asking for information are English speakers. So here we are: I made another chatroom en.wiki@muc.jabber.org with the purpose to host the English Comunity chats. You are all welcome to give discuss the concerns and problems of wikipedia and give advise to the chat voyageurs that enter the room. I think it is a good way to find new adepts, what do you think about it?
Schopenhauer 17:21, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'm sure I've seen something written about who can nominate for deletion, and who can vote on VfD, but I can't actually find the reference to it, if it exists. Anyone? DJ Clayworth 22:51, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Junta Oath Out here in the wiki I fight for my edits I get my back into my reverting I don’t need to quickpoll To prove I’m right I don’t need to be forgiven
All right members. Let's congregate at the usual place and time. We've got business to discuss, don't forget to switch codes every once in a while; we were almost found out last month.
Internet wastelandIt's only Internet wasteland.
I am having a discussion with Dunk concerning my opinion that his
Yate article is not NPOV and is written in a nonencyclopedic style. I would appreciate any comments, please put them on the article’s Talk Page. Thanks
Adrian Pingstone 16:00, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Looks ok to me -- 80.177.214.204 16:21, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I think someone ought to put up a message somewhere popular, such as the front page, to warn people not to write up April Fools' articles. Ashibaka ✎ 19:13, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
This may be the wrong place to ask this, or it may be answered elsewhere, but can anyone tell me if and when the English Wiki will be changed over to UTF-8? I ask becuase it's hugely inconvenient to work with text that's full of ś's, but for some topics (Sanskrit and associated languages and subjects, in my case), there is no adequate alternative to using unicode characters. This is true even if I eschew Devanagari and work in roman, because standardized roman transliteration requires characters with diacritics that aren't available in latin-1. कुक्कुरोवाच 20:51, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Switching the entire project over to UTF-8 or leaving things in ISO-8859-1 are not the only two choices. It would be straightforward to add a user option for "Edit in UTF-8". When a logged-in user with this option set requests to edit a page, the server translates HTML character references to their UTF-8. When the users submits their edit, the server translates non-ASCII (or non-ISO-8859-1) characters back to the HTML character references for storage in the database. Users who don't set this option would see no differences. See my Editing in UTF-8 feature request. — Gdr 12:33 2004-04-01.
Hi! I am a user from the french wikipédia. I know that some of you were interested by the conversion to utf-8. As you perhaps want to test on your personal wiki before considering the switch, here is the software to convert the MySQL dump : http://mboquien.free.fr/wikiconvert.tar.gz . It converts :
What it doesn't do :
This version is the rewritten version of the one we used (which was really dirty) to convert the french wiki. I rewrote it this afternoon and i tested it on an old cur dump of the french wiki, everything seems to work as expected. For the details, it depends on Qt (no troll on the toolkit used please) and i ran it on Mandrake 10.0. I was reported that it also compiles out of the box on Slackware. If you use another distribution, you may perhaps need to tweak the Makefile to have the correct path for Qt (you should set QTDIR correctly before trying to compile). No need to say that you need the Qt development packages installed. Using it is quite easy. The Makefile produces a wikiconvert executable. To convert you just need to write : ./wikiconvert < dump > converteddump (if you don't use iso8859-1, there is one line to change in wikiconvert.cpp, as explained in the source). On my computer (an athlonXP 2000+ underclocked at 1,5 GHz), converting a 90 Mb dump of cur lasts about 100 seconds. You should ask for a non compressed dump of cur for your test since converting compressed dumps available at http://download.wikipedia.org/ are not suitable for conversion since, once converted, MySQL can't load the dump completely (a problem of lines too long apparently, last time i tried).
I'd be very happy to get some feedback, and i would gladly accept patches to make the program faster/better. :) If you have any question, you can reach me on #fr.wikipedia on Freenode or on my discussion page (french or english only please). Med 09:41, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I once saw someone use some wiki code to insert the current time; however, I've completely forgotten how to do it! I know it's not {{HOUR}}, {{CURRENT_HOUR}}, or anything like that ... so, what is it? [ alerante 21:27, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC) ]
'''Time''': {{CURRENTTIME}} [[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] |
'''Date''': {{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}
Can an admin please merge edit history of Request for comment with Request for Comments? An anon is doing good edits to the article, but alas performed a copy & paste move. — Jor (Talk) 00:21, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm still a bit new, and I have tried to research this subject, but can't seem to find a definitive answer. I'm probably looking in the wrong place, but maybe there isn't one. Or with my luck, I found it, and simply didn't realize that's what it was talking about.
In any case, I was recently looking at the "What Links Here" page of a topic that I like. I noticed that many of the links were through redirects from pages with less than optimal spellings of the topic. Should/May I fix these links so that they point directly to the topic rather than to a redirect topic? Is there a policy about this?
I've done up two quick Wikipedia bookmarklets, one for Mozilla/Firefox/Opera and the other for Internet Explorer — put them on your bookmarks or links toolbar, and you have a button which will prompt you for the name of a Wikipedia node and then take you there. It's just like using the "Go" button at the top/bottom of a page, except you don't have to start off in Wikipedia.
Get the bookmarklets here. If you run into any problems, let me know on my talk page.
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My name is MIke Cushman.I have written and spoken to many people and organizations about my family and many others that have recieved and suffered from illnesses.These illnesses are caused by the constant exposure to emissions from burning coal (coke).
My grandmother died of breast cancer,my mother died of pancreatic cancer,my aunt died of breast cancer, my sister had breast cancer and a masectomy,I had chronic bronchitis,allergies, and a low immunity system.my other sister has reproductive problems(endometriosis).
I grew curious when my mother,sister and aunt were all effected by cancers within a three and one half year period.We all grew up and lived in the same area.Glennveiw/silvertown,where the prevailing west winds blew over the emissions from a chemical factory called the Cyanamid.The Cyanamid had 7 carbide furnaces and,7 air-blast furnaces which burned coal in their processes.I have been trying to get a complete list of the emissions that were given off from the cyanamid.It would cost me allot of money to get a list from the ministry of environment.imagine that ,in order to find out what is killing my family and making others sick I have to pay for information that my tax dollars already paid for.
My sisters volunteered for a gene study to help the cause and it was found that one sister (with breast cancer) had the mutated gene BRCA1and the other sister did not.I phoned The Center for Research in Womens Health and asked them some questions.I was informed that 30,000 genes come from your mother 30,000 genes come from you father,if your mother carried the mutated gene then there is a fifty,fifty chance her eggs will contain the mutated gene.Based on that if you carry the mutated gene you have a fifty fifty chance that your offspring will carry the gene. So I asked,"I can accept that it is heireditary but at some point in time it had to be environmental. Her studies don't cover that.Then I asked have you ever taken the studies you have done and plotted the areas these people lived to see if there if there is a common factor?"Again her studies did not cover that.It seems to me if I wanted to find a cure I would take these studies and find out everything to crush the desease.
I have spoken with the ministry of the environment.They took twenty years of air emission tests.Here is the opening statement of the man that took these tests TD3: Routine air monitoring has been conducted in the Regional Municipality of Niagara since the early 1970s to identify sources of pollution, evaluate their emissions, and institute appropriate control measures. In addition to monitoring specific industrial sources,monitoring of general air quality is conducted in various localities to determine if air quality objectives are being met and to observe trends in air pollution. This report summarizes the results of air monitoring in the region for the year. Detailed information is given for Niagara Falls, Chippawa, Port Colborne, St. Catharines, Thorold, and Welland. Annual publication.
These tests were done on the suspended particulate.They showed that the factories tested were all way over the acceptable limits.The ministry of environment never charged any of the companies by using the results of these tests.From 1974-1993the ministry of environment new that the suspended particulate released from the Norton,General Abrassives,The Fourth Ave,Cyanamid Plant,and The Welland,Gartner road Plant were polluting through air ground and water enough to consider that there would most likely be health problems caused by this. Not once did the ministry of environment tell the ministry of health that there could be reason for concern that over exposure to these toxic pollutants most likely will result from people's exposure to them .
When speaking with the epodemiologist from the Niagara regional health Office I was told they never saw any outstanding cancer or any other illness in the Niagara Region.I asked, "did they ever do a study on the specific regions of Niagara"?Like Silvertown,Chippawa, Thorold,Stamford...She said "no,they only have data on the Niagara Region as a whole,from Fort Erie to Niagara on the Lake,Niagara Falls to Grimsby.How can you determine if there is health problems in a specific area when you don't take your statistic a little farther? These are people we intrust to tell us if everything is in check!That our children can swim there,they can play in that feild,that it is OKto drink the water,that it is OK to breathe those emissions for twenty four/seven!
I have done a study,a study on how our system works,You judge for yourself.
From 1907-1993 a factory called the Cyanamide was allowed to produce calcium cyanide,calcium cyanmide,and many other products.At the time they were the biggest employers in the Niagara area.They used this power to do what ever they wanted in terms of pollution by:air,water,ground,and burrying.They got off on many charges and were given many extensions and freedoms by our governments because of the jobs at stake.This type of blackmailing was allowed to continue till tourism became the main attraction
There were countless complaints and studies done that prove the knowledge was there to prevent cancers,heart desease,brain tumors,chronic bronchitis,low immunity system,allergies, reproductive problems,cell displacia,endometriosis,furans and dioxins,lung desease,from the heavy metals and other chemicals and dusts given off from the Cyanamid processes both emissions and productive processes.
It is proven that fly ash (which is the suspended particulate)given off from the burning of coal(coke) is a major health concern because of the cancers and illnesses that are associated with it.
There are many news paper articles that describe accidents,complaints,concerns, environmental disasters, charges all concerning the Cyanamid corporations.I copied a described the cyanamid processes to a chemist in England.England is one of the highest authorities on the effects of burning coal.He confirmed the illnesses that could be caused by the Cyanamid processes.When searching the inter-net for information,I found information on fly ash that was an almost identical match to the information I recieved from England.
I have a list of people that grew up in Glennview silvertown with many sicknesses. breast cancer,pancreatic cancers,brain cancer(tumors),chronic bronchitis,thyroid problems, endometriosis,cell displacia,fertility problems,allergies,learning disorders,many people that went to Lord Elgin and had learning problems as children...This is not a highly populated area.
I was guided to the Environmental protection act and The Environmental Bill of Rights. Major break through legislation that was encouraging the public to get involved with these policies and regulations on the environment.When I start to use this there is a statute of limitations on air emissions.This statute is only covered for two years.It protects the government and the companies from past mistakes because new studies done by the government have shown that suspended particulate is the number one cause of ;heart desease,cancers,lung desease,and many other illnesses.
There have been studies done on the landfill sight left behind by the Cyanamid Fourth ave facility that stated there was reason for concern that the chemicals there will cause health effects to humans .Yet the land fill sight has had nothing done to it to clean up the land.It is known that there is cyanide ,ammonia,and many other toxic substances left there that are seeping into the Niagara River and the great lakes even though the Cyanamid (cytec)were suppose to cap the entire area with a thick layer of clay and vegitation.From 1907-present the Cyanamid corporation has been allowed to effect our health from generation to generation and the plant closed in 1993!The City is going to call this sight a brown field and reuse the land.New legislation has slackened the laws and permitted this to happen.
So despite all the studies and all the illness and all the pollution,Our tax paying dollars are going to go into redeveloping known contaminated land,never making the company responsable for leaving it behind.and people will continue to pass cancer,heart desease,and many other illnesses on.
Now the New York State is confirming what I am saying about the slack attitude towards Human health from our governments and their environmental regulations.There were many studies done on the factories of the Niagara region and four factories kept coming up. The Norton,General Abrassives,Cyanamid Fourth Ave Facility,Cyanamid Welland Facility. Out of the air emissions tests down town thorold was by far the worst for suspended particulate. The Cyanamid fourth ave ,was over the limits by 100% in some instances and Thorold was way worse than that.Our governments ,Federal,PROVINCIAL,and Municipal are all guilty of negligence.
Our right to a healthy lifestyle has been jeopardized,generations to come still posess the cancer genes,and no-one is accountable for it.
How many people have died pemature deaths?How many more?How many people have had learning disorders,asthmas,allergies,heart and lung desease,cancers?What can be done to get the Cyanamid sights cleaned up?One draining into the Welland River and One The Niagara.
Finally there is a scientist that is doing a study that shows that cancer is caused from emissions first then passed through gene transfer.I find it truly skocking how the almighty dollar comes before humanity. I do not know what can be done but in reading the news paper article on Great Lakes Pollution they seemed to care about where the pollution comes from and how to stop it.The Cyanamid fourth ave Landfill sight has gone untouched for decades while in 1986-87 it was deemed the most worrisome for health hazards.In 1986 This dump waslisted as having the potential to endanger human health. In 1987 there was a report that listed the sight operated between 1896-1920,as one of the 46 in the province which might have burried coal tar wastes.
In a hydrogeological report ,done by Gartner and Lee,it was said 192,000 cubic meters.In 1979 a portion of the waste was removed for desposal sent to the Cyanamid Welland facility.
It was decided that the removal of the waste would out cost the redevelopment of the land hence they were to cap it with clay and plant vegitation.They were never held to even that.
The City of Niagara Falls wants to spend thousands of dollars of tax payers money to do another study on the Cyanimid (cytec)property.Why waste more money on this?why not make the company clean up their mess?They call this a risk assesment,the tests they want to do.The risk has already been taken and the results are quite obvious.How about we get the news paper to write this story and ask the public;How many people that grew up around the Cyanamid have Breast cancer,pancreatic cancer,brain cancer(tomors and anurisms included),learning and behavural problems as children,low immunity systems,heart desease,reproduclive problems...I just recently have been reading about love canal and as a child I remamber this happening,but I never thought so much about it till I noticed the similarities in what I have been studying.I saw a documentary on Love Canal and cannot believe the government's reactions.
The Canadian government has been all but ignoring me and I would like to know how I could go public?The amount of money the government wants for freedom of informations is too much for me.I cannot believe that they will charge me for the information on what they allowed me to breath.If you could guide me to anything that might help me accomplish justice please email me.Thank you for your time.
Sincerly Mike Cushman.cusherman@msn.com
It's me complaining again. I'm a big fan of this poet, but this page is very NPOV. The POV happens to be my own, as far as I know about it, but I don't think this gushing tribute is not an enclycopedia article. Anyone wanna take a look? Ensiform 02:15, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I am trying to find information on my great grandfather's ship building in Singapore around 1854-1870. His name was Daniel Robb originally from Forfar, Scotland.
He had built "Heart's Ease" and "Rainbow" with Mr. Buyers, his partner. In an old newspaper article from Singapore, these ships were called "Sarawack Steamers".
So, I entered "Lloyd's of London" for my search and entered up with your site which is great but I can't seem to get into any sites that will give me any information about ships built outside of the UK and especially in the mid 1800's.
Can you give me any more suggestions for my research? Thanks so much.
See Nigerian scam.
Question answered at http://www.prayb4uplay.com/sd_tf1.htm
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Do I fill and article with phrases like also known as? Do I make a translation table? I'm concerned about the spectacles article in general but I'm sure this applies to many other pages as well Gbleem 03:43, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This page is too long! Seriously - why do we have 109 open discussions? Are they active? No. At the same time, important ones tend to get buried pretty quickly.
It's all part of a larger trend I've noticed on wikipedia - we have way too much overhead. We log everything! We have a log for protected pages, unprotected pages, failed featured article nominations, featured articles that make it onto the main page, did you know, the village pump, announcements, etc etc ad infinitum. Just to grant someone's request to protect/unprotect, I have to
And guess what? When you have so many steps just to do this kind of stuff, very few people actually do it all - so someone else has to come along later and spring clean them. Last night I removed 80% of the Featured article candidates - it hadn't been cleaned in that long. I'd like to suggest that we stop this ridiculous habit of logging everything and encourage people to be bold in cleaning up pages like this. →Raul654 19:35, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
A suggestion - first, pages like this should be maintained often enough that the job doesn't become insurmountable (as it is now). Second, 95% of the stuff that gets asked here can be flatly deleted - no logging, just the axe. What little is important can be logged to a collective archive (the VP archive) or individual archives. Third, a lot of the traffic that gets posted here should not be here in the first place. To be blunt - we need to discourage people from posting here, and encourage them to do it elsewhere.
Right now, just about the only thing I see that belongs here is the discussion of the takedown request. These issues are covered at the top of the page, but no one reads that. I'm tempted to rewrite it myself to discourage it. →Raul654 21:02, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ie. there should be say three brief summary sentences such as:
The solution can be put into practice or formally added to a Wikipedia namespace for future reference.
By Wikipedia namespace I mean Wikipedia:meta page (as per the problem above). Bensaccount 21:04, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
There is a new WikiProject called Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical Hungarian counties. This is similar to the historical Swedish provinces project. Anyone who wants to join may do so.
-- Dagestan
Okay, here's the first one so far: Bihar
Uhhhhhh.....anyone?
Hope Wiki guys can provide us more skins
Is there a way to get a (snapshot of) Wikipedia on CD-rom? I know this is against the interactive nature of Wikipedia, but I would like to have it for my students without internet access. Anybody knows how it can be done? -- Kjetil Halvorsen
There is now a page entitled Kobe Bryant's accuser. It does not currently include a name. I hope that we can have a debate about whether or not to include the woman's name at Talk:Kobe Bryant's accuser. moink 01:15, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I might have asked this before, but I don't remember receiving an answer--is there any special program for using Wikipedia as a way of learning foreign languages? (I am thinking specifically as a way of learning several languages simultaneously). Mjklin 15:04, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
A couple times already today I found I was logged-out for no apparent reason. Did anything change on the Wikipedia end (in other words, is this affecting more people)? — Jor (Talk) 16:49, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
no
Is the text search of Wikipedia permeanently disabled? Every single time I go to use it, it says:
Or am I doing something wrong? LUDRAMAN | T 17:31, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Recently, someone came up with the brilliant idea of the Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial. Could someone do the same for tables? I'm totally confused here, and I'm sure there are many other Wikipedians who would appreciate one as well. LUDRAMAN | T 20:03, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
There should be an official guideline that adjectives redirect to nouns. (If there isn't one already).
For example: Renal should redirect to kidney. Happy should redirect to happiness.
I can't think of many cases where this should not occur (perhaps only if the adjective is ambiguous).
Bensaccount 16:33, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
This was actually supposed to be a question. Bensaccount 04:03, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
New - and hense foolishly edited the entry in window with repeated "saves". Ugh. Is there any way to erase the history page? Alex obladida@adelphia.net
There is currently no way for sysops to erase individual revisions of an article so if you have made too many saves, don't worry about it, but try not to do it in future.
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See m:MediaWiki User's Guide: Using tables and How_to_use_tables.
New chatroom at en.wiki@muc.jabber.org. See Wikipedia talk:IRC channels.
There is no program for using Wikipedia as a way of learning foreign languages but there are several language textbooks in progress at Wikibooks.
See Talk:Kobe Bryant's accuser
There is no Wikipedia on CD-rom but you can download the database at Wikipedia:Database download
New Wikiproject at Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical Hungarian counties
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New skins at http://wiki.aulinx.de/
Hello The structure on the ibuprofen stub article is entirely incorrect - the branches extend from the wrong place on the benzene ring and one of the groups themselves is wrong - it should feature an OH group, not a single bonded oxygen mid-branch.
I cannot discuss the article as it does not exist yet. I would be more than happy to write the article when I have finished my current paper, however I wondered whether it was in some way possible to correct or remove the erroneous information before then.
Many thanks strych 16:28, 31 Mar 2004
Because it came up elsewhere (and I was already curious), I have created m:Wikipedians by age - yet another social organization grouping ;) →Raul654 17:59, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)
does anyone know a good program that will type into a text program the words you speak into a mic? Kingturtle 02:09, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)~
i have lots of images i've taken recently , like Picture of lillebælt , this would apply to this article: Small_Belt however i have lots more that i couldnt possibly be bothered to write an article about this, What is the proper way to handle this? i've seen some people put them on their User: pages saying anyone can use them under the GFDL, should i do this? -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 09:34, 2004 Mar 31 (UTC)
I found a couple of pages with external links to an online petition. I deleted the links, as I didn't think them appropriate for Wikipedia. Any comments? -- Auximines 10:53, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The beginning of the quote is "Un pays que[qui] ouvre sur la mer..." -- and goes on from there. [could also be "Un pays qu'ouvre sur la mer..."
I do research for a living, and have googled the entire web on this phrase, portions of the phrase, "leopold II" -- and come up with NOTHING. I need the full original quote IN FRENCH and am asking for help from any of your wizards.
Many thanks! Merci beaucoup et gros bisous!
Avril
“Un pays baigné par la mer n’est jamais petit” ? or ask it in fr:wikipédia:le bistro. Greudin
Should meta pages (wikipedia:) be used for discussion?
The reasons for this move seem obvious to me so I left them out but if you want me to state them I will.
I wont copy and paste the content, and therefore am powerless. Help? Bensaccount 23:52, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia: Namespace is not a redirect. Bensaccount 00:52, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
You said "I'm not keen on having redirects from the article namespace to the Wikipedia: one"
This namespace stuff is confusing. I think maybe namespace should be reserved to the definition on the page Wikipedia:namespace and the definition for Wikipedia-namespace on that page should be changed to Meta page (and ditch the Wikipedia-namespace term. Bensaccount 01:06, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Done. (I could have tried to explain what a namespace was for hours with the old version). Bensaccount 01:14, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I dont follow the meta:meta:meta phenomenon. Is it similar to the Wikipedia namespace:Wikipedia:namespace:Wikipedia: Wikipedia namespace phenomenon? (A wikipedia namespace page on wikipedia namespace that defines the wikipedia namespace and the wikipedia wikipedia namespace) Bensaccount 01:27, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I follow,
Heres are the relevant pages: Wikipedia:Glossary, Wikipedia:Namespace, Wikipedia:Meta page, Wikipedia: Wikipedia namespace.
The way I see it, namespace defines things such as the Main-namespace, the talk-namespace, etc. Meta pages have their own namespace (not to be conbfused with Meta-Wikimedia.) Meta page namespace is used to provide information on wikipedia. I think this is clear, agreed? Bensaccount 01:42, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I see what you mean, but using Wikipedia namespace is just as bad. The wikipedia term is also overused. Any namespace on wikipedia could be referred to as a wikipedia namespace (as opposed to a namespace).
I propose we create a new term for meta page namespace aka wikipedia wikipedia namespace. Bensaccount 02:01, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I see no reason to stop calling it the Wikipedia namespace. Angela . 18:24, Apr 6, 2004 (UTC)
I do. See Wikipedia: namespace. Bensaccount 17:02, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I haven't read carefully enough to be sure someone didn't already say this: at least some of the confusion is between "article namespace" in the sense of
-- Jerzy (t) 17:44, 2004 Apr 7 (UTC)
Hey! I just noticed somebody (in fact two people: first Timwi, then Eloquence) has changed MediaWiki:Wikipediapage, which is displayed when you're editing, e.g. here, or are on a Wikipedia talk: page, so that it now says "view project page" instead of "view meta page". Good edit in my opinion; much less ambiguous. - IMSoP 22:40, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hello all. In the interest of getting the article unprotected, I've called for a vote/poll at Talk:Fascism on the question of whether the Soviet Union and other communist regimes should be listed as fascist states on that page. Please come and express your opinion. john 04:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The addition of some substantiation or at least a reference to the agency or entity, or literature which proves the allegation that Milosevic' had Stambolic' murdered would improve the article. Can anyone add to this aspect of the history/biography? I think it's probably true, but what I'm asking is for some more rigorous historical writing.
Thank you, and best wishes to all, John-Peter Creighton, Tattnall County, Georgia, USA
I got two concerns, number one a couple of lists have been rounding my mind: Look at Women's boxing and see the small list of female boxers we have there. Should we change the name of List of boxers to List of male boxers, take out the list of female boxers in the article about women's boxing and make a List of female boxers?. There are about 100 more or less known women boxers, and we already have a precedent anyways, look at List of actors and List of actresses. On that same line I was also thinking about a list of teen-idols.
Second concern: I have obtained many, many copyright guarantees for photos t be used in airline articles. While most photographers have accepted our policy of not giving credit under the photo itself, a couple of them lately have expressed as a requisite that I do credit them under the photo. Can I do this? I know that many wikipedians dont like that, and that its basically a rule not to credit the photographer under the photo, But I was wondering if I could put a note under the photo, a note that would look integrated to the article.
Thanks and God bless!
your opinion on the matter here (hehe!):
Some Wikipedians may not like it but moral rights outside the US makes that unimportant, since it may be a legal right the photographers have, independent of copyright status. In any case, it's polite to give credit. Please do, though in a reduced size font so it isn't unduly prominent. If there's any actual policy on this, please let me know. If there's not, we might as well create one and say that it's polite and should normally be done, though as a courtesy. Jamesday 07:25, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Several people are trying a test which may help Google to find new articles quickly. User and user talk pages are very highly ranked by Google because they have lots of links to them. The test is to include {{msg:newpagelinks}} at the top of your user and/or talk page. As the test progresses we'll possibly tweak the message to see if we can find a combination which helps Google the most. This came about after Dori noticed that articles linked from his sandbox appeared in the Google index very quickly. Jamesday 07:37, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The link Talk:Fundamentalism is broken. It was too large and I archieved a lot. The archive is at Talk:Fundamentalism/Archive1 and functions well.
I would appreciate it if someone was able to make the talk page function again and, explain what went wrong. GerardM 07:53, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
In response to a request by Seth Ilys, I've put seconds in the timestamps on RC. What do you think? -- Tim Starling 14:42, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)
I've been perusing the en.wikipedia stats for the last month's trends. Here's the headline figures:
10 most popular items (excluding Main Page, Current Events, Special pages, admin pages):
10 most popular search terms:
More at http://en.wikipedia.org/stats/usage_200403.html .
Is there some arcane place to list this information of which I am not aware? My understanding was that the place to list ban requests was Rfc... I've done that, but there have been precious few comments thus far, and the 24 hour emergency ban is going to be over sooner or later and User:141 is likely going to continue his/her/its rampage. Anyone care to point me to the place where this can get more publicity... other than here of course. -- Dante Alighieri | Talk 16:41, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)
Just came across a weird one. If you go to the article Age of Apocalypse, you will see that it is broken up into a number of subections: "Storyline", "Characters and affiliations", and "External Links". But if you click on the individual Edit button to edit the "Characters and affiliations", you get a funny little subsection entitled "Comics". A quick check of the entire article edit reveals that this whole subsection is commented out using HTML <!-- --> comments - but the individual Edit links are missing this fact, so the &Section=number part of the edit link is pointing to the wrong place. So, is the Village Pump the right place for a bug report like this? -- Stormie 04:23, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
This page is too long.
This page is too long! Seriously - why do we have 109 open discussions? Are they active? No. At the same time, important ones tend to get buried pretty quickly.
It's all part of a larger trend I've noticed on wikipedia - we have way too much overhead. We log everything! We have a log for protected pages, unprotected pages, failed featured article nominations, featured articles that make it onto the main page, did you know, the village pump, announcements, etc etc ad infinitum. Just to grant someone's request to protect/unprotect, I have to
And guess what? When you have so many steps just to do this kind of stuff, very few people actually do it all - so someone else has to come along later and spring clean them. Last night I removed 80% of the Featured article candidates - it hadn't been cleaned in that long. I'd like to suggest that we stop this ridiculous habit of logging everything and encourage people to be bold in cleaning up pages like this. →Raul654 19:35, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
A suggestion - first, pages like this should be maintained often enough that the job doesn't become insurmountable (as it is now). Second, 95% of the stuff that gets asked here can be flatly deleted - no logging, just the axe. What little is important can be logged to a collective archive (the VP archive) or individual archives. Third, a lot of the traffic that gets posted here should not be here in the first place. To be blunt - we need to discourage people from posting here, and encourage them to do it elsewhere.
Right now, just about the only thing I see that belongs here is the discussion of the takedown request. These issues are covered at the top of the page, but no one reads that. I'm tempted to rewrite it myself to discourage it. →Raul654 21:02, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)
Ie. there should be say three brief summary sentences such as:
The solution can be put into practice or formally added to a Wikipedia namespace for future reference.
By Wikipedia namespace I mean Wikipedia:meta page (as per the problem above). Bensaccount 21:04, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The Hindu, one of India's leading English daily newspapers had around a half a page feature today [10] on wikis from The Guardian( I think). There was a one para write-up on Wikipedia which was referred to as the impressive Wikipedia:-). KRS 08:47, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Questions and answers, after a period of inactivity, will be moved to other relevant sections of the wikipedia (such as the FAQ pages), placed in the Wikipedia:Village pump archive (if it is of general interest), or deleted (if it has no long-term value).
This is what I found in the Wikipedia:Deletion log. It seems nothing can be taken for granted these days, not even the seven day period and of course the discussion on VfD. All our sophisticated rules won't work if sysops abuse their power in that way. I'm going to post that message on Timwi's user page, too. <KF> 20:12, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
->reference desk
Something weird--clicking My watchlis in left menu bar gives:
A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wikipedia), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: SELECT cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_comment, cur_id, cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_timestamp,cur_minor_edit,cur_is_new FROM watchlist,cur USE INDEX (name_title_timestamp) WHERE wl_user=40082 AND (wl_namespace=cur_namespace OR wl_namespace+1=cur_namespace) AND wl_title=cur_title AND cur_timestamp > '20040329180705' ORDER BY cur_timestamp DESC from within function "wfSpecialWatchlist". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error 28 from table handler". Elf | Talk 18:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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Should the English Wikipedia use Unicode? Continued at Wikipedia:Unicode.
Hi,
I've been surfing the site and found that the Portuguese version of Wikipedia is on Portugal's Portuguese. This is most inconvenient for Brazilian users, for, even though we speak Portuguese, it's different enough to prevent integration on the same site-version. Can this be changed? Can a "Brazilian Portuguese" version be created? Help!
Thanks,
Helen
See examples at Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense
Online petitions are unlikely to be relevant to article pages.
I ran the wikipedia main page in [ Bobby] which checks web pages for accessiblity issues.
I strongly feel that Wikipedia software writers should help make pages more accesibility friendly so that 'challenged people' should not have a problem. What do you think? Nichalp
For the record, I checked our main page for w3c compliance, and it failed. see here →Raul654 19:32, Mar 29, 2004 (UTC)
hello sir , compliment of the season to you sir ,my main reason mailing you is just because i want to study in abroad just to stsndardise my education ilook up all over the world and i believe you the only person that can help me.
THANKS SIR.
I'm currently looking around for a reliable and not-too-expensive UK broadband ISP, and thought I'd ask fellow Wikipedians what they would recommend. Support for Linux would be advantageous but not wholly essential (I'm running a dual boot Red Hat 9 / Win 98 environment). Anyone got any suggestions? -- ChrisO 23:16, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
If you're using Mozilla or one of its derivatives (Netscape 6+, Firefox, Galeon, Kmeleon ..), you may want to try the option "Show edit toolbar" in your user preferences. While it previously would only show an infobox for Mozilla, you can now also use it in the way it is intended: select text, click one of the toolbar buttons, and it is formatted accordingly. If you do not select text, you will still get an example text.-- Eloquence * 09:24, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC) (signed using toolbar)
undo
seems to have no effect after using the toolbar. Please consider this a suggestion rather than a criticism, though, and I've no idea whether it's even possible - I wouldn't know where to begin to get it doing what it does do. (ooh, that's funky, it trims the trailing space when you select a word!)Hey, I haven't been following the Gdansk vs. Danzig debate all that closely, so I don't know if there is still any debate over what to call the current city, but I did some research that might be of some interest to the community. I looked at all the Sun Media newspapers that I am able to search electronically for instances of both words...so this isn't a definitive survey, it just shows what has been printed in a few Canadian newspapers, going back to 1989 at the earliest.
(To save space, I've moved it to User:Adam Bishop/Gdansk vs. Danzig) Adam Bishop 18:14, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)