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Hi all. We invite your feedback on a proposed way to improve communication from and about the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is an experiment to establish a more standardised format and cadence. It would include headlines and links from the Wikimedia Foundation's technical work; Foundation activities with communities and affiliates; as well as with other stakeholders like readers, donors, regulators, the media, and the general public.
A short overview of the concept itself is on Meta at m:Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin, with the first “trial” issue at m:Wikimedia_Foundation_Bulletin/2024/06-01 - also copied below. You can subscribe to the bulletin via talk page delivery on any Wikimedia wiki. Depending on the feedback received, we might start this as a regular Bulletin for the coming fiscal year (which starts July 1).
This is an experiment: we want to know what you think, what is missing, what is too much, and whether this is something that we should consider investing more time and effort into. Please post your feedback on
the Bulletin talk page - on the concept itself, and suggestions on anything from the design to specific words used would also be helpful. You can also provide feedback in this thread; by email to askcacwikimedia.org; or at the next
Conversation with the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees on 27 June at 18:00 UTC.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee, MPeel-WMF ( talk) 18:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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Novem Linguae (
talk)
14:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Dear all,
We would like to share with you the community collaboration page around the English fundraising banner campaign 2024. This page is for volunteers to learn about fundraising and share ideas for how we can improve the 2024 English fundraising campaign together. On this page you'll have messaging examples and spaces for collaboration, where you can share your ideas for how we can improve the next campaign together.
The fundraising banner pre-tests phase on English Wikipedia starts in mid-July with a few technical tests, using messaging that was created with the community during the last campaign. We will regularly update the collaboration page with new messaging ideas and updates on testing and campaign plans as we prepare for the main campaign that will launch at the end of November.
Generally, during the pre-tests and the campaign, you can contact us:
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § The Community Wishlist is reopening July 15, 2024. –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
20:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
POTY desperately needs new volunteers who can do the things required to run the competition. With the current state of the committee, it is likely that there will be no POTY this year, as the main member who ran scripts for the competition has burned-out from doing wikipedia tasks and isn't up for it. Others on the committee are also missing in action.
Check out the Discussion here [1]. •Shawnqual• 📚 • 💭 03:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § U4C Special Election - Call for Candidates. –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Today I saw an exceptionally large banner on a wiki page (while not logged in), requesting donations. While this topic has been discussed previously, however this message states "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser." This statement gives a clear message that Wikimedia is in dire financial condition and will soon go bankrupt, disregarding its ever growing 'substantial financial resources'. I have observed discontent among editors as well as readers about aggressive donation campaign sometimes, this one is clearly misleading (or maybe even a fraud for its language). Even after acknowledging the fact that there are multiple projects under Wikimedia (also those beyond the sisters of Wikipedia), it is nowhere accurate to say "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser." Given that we editors strive hard to make articles as accurate and void of fringe theories as possible, this statement should be removed, and rather there should be some rules on how this banners are made. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 13:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the discussion here.
The intention behind the line "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser" was to convey that “this fundraiser will soon be over,” not to suggest any financial threat to Wikipedia. We intentionally avoid peppering Wikipedia with multiple donation buttons, so very few people donate outside of a campaign. The fundraiser is the key moment for giving, and we aim to emphasize the importance of our work with a sense of urgency. The general use of urgency in messaging is an important and appropriate persuasion tool in nonprofit fundraising. It helps potential donors understand that their donation is necessary to advance a cause they care about.
However, ExclusiveEditor, your interpretation of the line as indicating a threat to Wikipedia’s financial stability is enough for us to reconsider its phrasing. We will workshop this line to avoid any misunderstandings.
Currently, we have no active banner campaigns live, aside from a brief systems test this week in India. Soni, to respond to your query, in India, we plan to run 2-3 short tests before the campaign goes live on August 13th. These tests will ensure our payment systems work at scale and help us refresh the content in response to the feedback we have been receiving. Sheetal Puri (WMF) ( talk) 22:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
and help us refresh the content in response to the feedback we have been receivingCan you elaborate? What feedback do you expect to receive during the 2-3 short test period?
For reference, there is similar language in the current English fundraising emails ( Email 1, Email 2, Email 3, Email 4) as well. For example:
Also worth looking at:
Emails to past donors account for a very substantial part of revenue. -- Andreas JN 466 07:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hi all. We invite your feedback on a proposed way to improve communication from and about the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin is an experiment to establish a more standardised format and cadence. It would include headlines and links from the Wikimedia Foundation's technical work; Foundation activities with communities and affiliates; as well as with other stakeholders like readers, donors, regulators, the media, and the general public.
A short overview of the concept itself is on Meta at m:Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin, with the first “trial” issue at m:Wikimedia_Foundation_Bulletin/2024/06-01 - also copied below. You can subscribe to the bulletin via talk page delivery on any Wikimedia wiki. Depending on the feedback received, we might start this as a regular Bulletin for the coming fiscal year (which starts July 1).
This is an experiment: we want to know what you think, what is missing, what is too much, and whether this is something that we should consider investing more time and effort into. Please post your feedback on
the Bulletin talk page - on the concept itself, and suggestions on anything from the design to specific words used would also be helpful. You can also provide feedback in this thread; by email to askcacwikimedia.org; or at the next
Conversation with the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees on 27 June at 18:00 UTC.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee, MPeel-WMF ( talk) 18:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Talking: 2024 continues
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Langauge and Internationalization · other newsletters on Mediawiki.org
See also a list of all movement events: on Meta
See also blogs: Global Advocacy Blogs · blogs
See also: quarterly Metrics Reports
See Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard · Affiliations Committee Newsletter
See also: Wikimedia blog · Goings-on · Wikimedia World · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · other newsletters:
Previous editions of this bulletin are on
Meta. Let askcacwikimedia.org know if you have any feedback or suggestions for improvement!
MPeel-WMF ( talk) 18:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Upcoming and current events and conversations
Talking: 2024 continues
Annual Goals Progress on
Infrastructure
See also newsletters:
Wikimedia Apps ·
Growth ·
Research ·
Web ·
Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia ·
Tech News ·
Language and Internationalization ·
other newsletters on Mediawiki.org
Annual Goals Progress on
Equity
See also a list of all movement events:
on Meta
Annual Goals Progress on
Safety & Inclusion
See also blogs:
Global Advocacy blog ·
Global Advocacy Newsletter ·
Policy blog
Annual Goals Progress on
Effectiveness
See also:
quarterly Metrics Reports
Board and Board committee updates
See
Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard ·
Affiliations Committee Newsletter
Foundation statements
Other Movement curated newsletters & news See also: Diff blog · Goings-on · Wikimedia World · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · other newsletters:
Previous editions of this bulletin are on
Meta. Let askcacwikimedia.org know if you have any feedback or suggestions for improvement!
Mike Peel ( talk) 12:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is now open – cast your vote. –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
14:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Dear all,
We would like to share with you the community collaboration page around the English fundraising banner campaign 2024. This page is for volunteers to learn about fundraising and share ideas for how we can improve the 2024 English fundraising campaign together. On this page you'll have messaging examples and spaces for collaboration, where you can share your ideas for how we can improve the next campaign together.
The fundraising banner pre-tests phase on English Wikipedia starts in mid-July with a few technical tests, using messaging that was created with the community during the last campaign. We will regularly update the collaboration page with new messaging ideas and updates on testing and campaign plans as we prepare for the main campaign that will launch at the end of November.
Generally, during the pre-tests and the campaign, you can contact us:
Best wishes, JBrungs (WMF) ( talk) 11:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § The Community Wishlist is reopening July 15, 2024. –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
20:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
POTY desperately needs new volunteers who can do the things required to run the competition. With the current state of the committee, it is likely that there will be no POTY this year, as the main member who ran scripts for the competition has burned-out from doing wikipedia tasks and isn't up for it. Others on the committee are also missing in action.
Check out the Discussion here [1]. •Shawnqual• 📚 • 💭 03:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § U4C Special Election - Call for Candidates. –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Today I saw an exceptionally large banner on a wiki page (while not logged in), requesting donations. While this topic has been discussed previously, however this message states "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser." This statement gives a clear message that Wikimedia is in dire financial condition and will soon go bankrupt, disregarding its ever growing 'substantial financial resources'. I have observed discontent among editors as well as readers about aggressive donation campaign sometimes, this one is clearly misleading (or maybe even a fraud for its language). Even after acknowledging the fact that there are multiple projects under Wikimedia (also those beyond the sisters of Wikipedia), it is nowhere accurate to say "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser." Given that we editors strive hard to make articles as accurate and void of fringe theories as possible, this statement should be removed, and rather there should be some rules on how this banners are made. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 13:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the discussion here.
The intention behind the line "it will soon be too late to help us in our fundraiser" was to convey that “this fundraiser will soon be over,” not to suggest any financial threat to Wikipedia. We intentionally avoid peppering Wikipedia with multiple donation buttons, so very few people donate outside of a campaign. The fundraiser is the key moment for giving, and we aim to emphasize the importance of our work with a sense of urgency. The general use of urgency in messaging is an important and appropriate persuasion tool in nonprofit fundraising. It helps potential donors understand that their donation is necessary to advance a cause they care about.
However, ExclusiveEditor, your interpretation of the line as indicating a threat to Wikipedia’s financial stability is enough for us to reconsider its phrasing. We will workshop this line to avoid any misunderstandings.
Currently, we have no active banner campaigns live, aside from a brief systems test this week in India. Soni, to respond to your query, in India, we plan to run 2-3 short tests before the campaign goes live on August 13th. These tests will ensure our payment systems work at scale and help us refresh the content in response to the feedback we have been receiving. Sheetal Puri (WMF) ( talk) 22:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
and help us refresh the content in response to the feedback we have been receivingCan you elaborate? What feedback do you expect to receive during the 2-3 short test period?
For reference, there is similar language in the current English fundraising emails ( Email 1, Email 2, Email 3, Email 4) as well. For example:
Also worth looking at:
Emails to past donors account for a very substantial part of revenue. -- Andreas JN 466 07:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)