The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 May 29. ✗ plicit 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Propose merging
Template:Edit semi-protected with
Template:Request edit.
As I have (surprisingly) recently discovered, this entire family of templates auto-detects the protection level of the template for which the edit request is being made. This means that an {{
FPER}} placed on a template-protected template will result in exactly the same thing as a {{
TPER}}. Because of this, it seems to me that there is little reason to keep these all as separate templates, instead using the more obvious and reasonably-named {{
request edit}} as the base template for this family (instead of the latter template being used as a dab for all five).
Primefac (
talk) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
I have struck {{ request edit}} since most of the participants feel it's not well-suited for the final target. Primefac ( talk) 13:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
COI=yes
or type=COI
could be used to flag the type of edit request that is being made, which would allow all six templates to be merged into
Template:Request edit. That would still keep them a separate process.
Adam Black
t •
c 16:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
|force=
to force {{Edit extended-protected|force=yes}}
would no longer work.{{#invoke:protected edit request|extended}}
(where the default there is extended
). If the page to be edited is unprotected or if |force=yes
is used, then that default level is used. If these were all redirected to one template, then there would be a loss of functionality unless someone knows how to tell a module not merely which
wrapper is invoking a module (since there would only be one merged wrapper), but rather which redirect is being used to transclude the wrapper that invokes the module (and I don't think that is possible). If no default is provided when invoking the module, then it presently breaks with the error message Lua error in Module:Protected_edit_request/active at line 299: attempt to concatenate local 'boxProtectionLevel' (a nil value). when the page is unprotected or |force=yes
is used.
SilverLocust
💬 20:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
getContent()
to get the text of the current page and then search it for one of the redirect templates. --
Ahecht (
TALK|force=yes
to specifying the level to force, eg. |force=extended
. I agree there's no straightforward solution for existing uses, so we should just leave the existing templates as is, but stop advertising them in preloads and documentation pages. –
SD0001 (
talk) 06:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
{{Request edit|force=semiprotected}}
be better than {{Edit semi-protected|force=yes}}
? Other than to satisfy a misguided desire for {{
Edit semi-protected}} to be a redirect rather than the wrapper it is now?
Anomie
⚔ 11:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Unused as the template uses Template:Table cell templates/doc. Gonnym ( talk) 14:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox mapframe/doc. ✗ plicit 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Propose merging
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata with
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc.
Merge the TemplateData to the main /doc template (
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc#TemplateData). Since it was created in 2020 and hasn't been updated once since, the parameters need to be checked to see if they are still up to date.
Gonnym (
talk) 14:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Unclear sidebar subpage. Unused and not a doc page. Gonnym ( talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Looks like a template that never really took off in usage when it was made in 2010. At this point, such reviews are handled by WP:FFD, and the {{ Oldffdfull}} template points readers in the direction of relevant discussions for files. (Also, if this template is deleted, Category:PD reviewed files should probably be deleted per {{ Db-g8}} as dependent on the nominated template.) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Primefac (
talk) 09:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was relisted on 2024 May 29. ✗ plicit 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Propose merging
Template:Edit semi-protected with
Template:Request edit.
As I have (surprisingly) recently discovered, this entire family of templates auto-detects the protection level of the template for which the edit request is being made. This means that an {{
FPER}} placed on a template-protected template will result in exactly the same thing as a {{
TPER}}. Because of this, it seems to me that there is little reason to keep these all as separate templates, instead using the more obvious and reasonably-named {{
request edit}} as the base template for this family (instead of the latter template being used as a dab for all five).
Primefac (
talk) 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
I have struck {{ request edit}} since most of the participants feel it's not well-suited for the final target. Primefac ( talk) 13:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
COI=yes
or type=COI
could be used to flag the type of edit request that is being made, which would allow all six templates to be merged into
Template:Request edit. That would still keep them a separate process.
Adam Black
t •
c 16:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
|force=
to force {{Edit extended-protected|force=yes}}
would no longer work.{{#invoke:protected edit request|extended}}
(where the default there is extended
). If the page to be edited is unprotected or if |force=yes
is used, then that default level is used. If these were all redirected to one template, then there would be a loss of functionality unless someone knows how to tell a module not merely which
wrapper is invoking a module (since there would only be one merged wrapper), but rather which redirect is being used to transclude the wrapper that invokes the module (and I don't think that is possible). If no default is provided when invoking the module, then it presently breaks with the error message Lua error in Module:Protected_edit_request/active at line 299: attempt to concatenate local 'boxProtectionLevel' (a nil value). when the page is unprotected or |force=yes
is used.
SilverLocust
💬 20:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
getContent()
to get the text of the current page and then search it for one of the redirect templates. --
Ahecht (
TALK|force=yes
to specifying the level to force, eg. |force=extended
. I agree there's no straightforward solution for existing uses, so we should just leave the existing templates as is, but stop advertising them in preloads and documentation pages. –
SD0001 (
talk) 06:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
{{Request edit|force=semiprotected}}
be better than {{Edit semi-protected|force=yes}}
? Other than to satisfy a misguided desire for {{
Edit semi-protected}} to be a redirect rather than the wrapper it is now?
Anomie
⚔ 11:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 23:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Unused as the template uses Template:Table cell templates/doc. Gonnym ( talk) 14:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox mapframe/doc. ✗ plicit 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Propose merging
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc/templatedata with
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc.
Merge the TemplateData to the main /doc template (
Template:Infobox mapframe/doc#TemplateData). Since it was created in 2020 and hasn't been updated once since, the parameters need to be checked to see if they are still up to date.
Gonnym (
talk) 14:54, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 23:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Unclear sidebar subpage. Unused and not a doc page. Gonnym ( talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Looks like a template that never really took off in usage when it was made in 2010. At this point, such reviews are handled by WP:FFD, and the {{ Oldffdfull}} template points readers in the direction of relevant discussions for files. (Also, if this template is deleted, Category:PD reviewed files should probably be deleted per {{ Db-g8}} as dependent on the nominated template.) Steel1943 ( talk) 22:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Primefac (
talk) 09:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)