June 2
Template:Jubilees of British monarchs
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The result of the discussion was keep. It should be noted, however, that a majority of participants (on both sides) agreed that the template at a minimum needs trimming to make it less of a grab-bag of semi-related topics. Primefac ( talk) 09:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
This template connects a large number of disparate articles which have in common that they are connected to one of the jubilee celebrations of a British monarch. I was alerted to it when I was notified that Big Jubilee Read, a listing of 70 books celebrating the current platinum jubilee, had been linked from a wide range of articles such as Recessional (poem) and Queen Victoria Police Jubilee Medal. I do not think that this navbox template meets the criteria outlined in the guideline WP:NAVBOX: these include "3: The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent." and "5: If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." We have a List of jubilees of British monarchs, from which the interested reader can navigate to the 10 jubilees, from each of which there are, or should be, links to the various commemorative events, buildings, medals, etc. There is no need for a template to connect all the articles which have any connection to any jubilee. This just provides clutter on the page, and makes it difficult for an editor looking at "What links here" who wants to identify articles which have a connection to the page in question. Above all it is difficult to imagine any reader being better served by this template than by a series of sensible links to and from that list of jubilees and the articles on the jubilees. It was only created in February 2021 and I suggest that it does not benefit the encyclopedia. Pam D 20:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm actually against deleting it, because it covers a variety of topics that appear to be related, and are all centered around the idea of celebrating the British monarch's reign. Personally, I think the problem can be solved by trimming it down a little bit. For example, the recent edit that added the list of buildings dedicated to Queen Victoria during her Diamond Jubilee was simply excessive. Exclude that, and you get a template with a reasonable size that covers mostly related articles. Keivan.f Talk 20:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think a navbox linking the 10 jubilees could be useful, but anything more seems excessive.
Pam
D
20:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it's not entirely true that the articles within the template are unrelated, because some of these events occur during each jubilee, so there's a common theme. One example would be the medals that are made and distributed each time. As I said before, removing the excessive stuff that are actually unrelated would help, including the list of buildings. Keivan.f Talk 23:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think a navbox linking the 10 jubilees could be useful, but anything more seems excessive.
Pam
D
20:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep the template per Keivan.f, with the recently added buildings removed. Peter Ormond 💬 20:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 21:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or heavily prune it to just the articles specifically about the jubilees, though even then, not convinced it's a useful enough template. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Demi Lovato/class
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. In particular, if the project becomes active, or some other reason arises where this template would be used/useful again. Primefac ( talk) 09:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Class list for inactive project. When using test previews to see the template transclusion all that shows up is the word "Project". Doesn't work the way it once did. This is no longer needed. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:NATO command structure/IMS
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Unused subpage of Template:NATO command structure. Not sure what this is trying to achieve outside of having a box to show the coat of arms of the IMS. But I'm sure this image can be added to the main template. Unless this was made for something else. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Atlantic hurricane season
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Unused. Just a hatnote to link to the Atlantic hurricane season article. Seems to be a pretty small thing to use template space for. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:24, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Mohsen Chavoshi
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:48, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
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Three links related to the subject. All three albums are linked on Mohsen's page already. The related articles section is irrelevant because those normally go on broader topic navboxes. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:2022 monkeypox outbreak
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The result of the discussion was keep. No prejudice against renomination in the future if other reasons can be found that this navbox is not necessary (e.g. the articles-to-be-written never get written). Primefac ( talk) 09:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Too soon. Only two links related to the 2022 outbreak. Can be recreated if more articles for this event are created such as the outbreak in countries. But for now, it's best to hold off until then. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:04, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - The
Monkeypox outbreak task force (me included) is writing articles on the outbreaks in countries, so this template can be expected to be filled very soon.
Chaotic Enby (
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18:12, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- For the countries articles, you would need three just to have basic navigation. Which three are close to being ready? --
WikiCleanerMan (
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18:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- The UK one is close to being ready - others less so, but this number can probably be reached today or tomorrow. Deleting a template just to have it be recreated the next day isn't really worth it.
Chaotic Enby (
talk)
18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- No worries; the TFD process goes for at least seven days. If the template is in a more useful state at that point, it will be easy to keep it. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 04:49, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- The UK one is close to being ready - others less so, but this number can probably be reached today or tomorrow. Deleting a template just to have it be recreated the next day isn't really worth it.
Chaotic Enby (
talk)
18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- For the countries articles, you would need three just to have basic navigation. Which three are close to being ready? --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk)
18:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep — As I think it will be helpful, now that some of the ‘outbreak by location’ articles are being created. Elijahandskip ( talk) 05:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep — it would be helpful as more countries are getting the articles for the epidemic. Thingofme ( talk) 03:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep ~ AntisocialRyan ( talk) 14:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Already useful as it is, and I expect a few more countries to get a standalone article soon. MarioGom ( talk) 19:18, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Ill de
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:18, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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11:42, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom, they aren't beneficial. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:SIR color
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Unused and replaced with Module:Adjacent stations/Staten Island Railway. Gonnym ( talk) 08:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:TGV inOui color
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/SNCF. Gonnym ( talk) 07:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:4TeamBracket-SPFL
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Aidan721 (
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02:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - not used. Giant Snowman 15:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unused and superceded. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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June 2
Template:Jubilees of British monarchs
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The result of the discussion was keep. It should be noted, however, that a majority of participants (on both sides) agreed that the template at a minimum needs trimming to make it less of a grab-bag of semi-related topics. Primefac ( talk) 09:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
This template connects a large number of disparate articles which have in common that they are connected to one of the jubilee celebrations of a British monarch. I was alerted to it when I was notified that Big Jubilee Read, a listing of 70 books celebrating the current platinum jubilee, had been linked from a wide range of articles such as Recessional (poem) and Queen Victoria Police Jubilee Medal. I do not think that this navbox template meets the criteria outlined in the guideline WP:NAVBOX: these include "3: The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent." and "5: If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles." We have a List of jubilees of British monarchs, from which the interested reader can navigate to the 10 jubilees, from each of which there are, or should be, links to the various commemorative events, buildings, medals, etc. There is no need for a template to connect all the articles which have any connection to any jubilee. This just provides clutter on the page, and makes it difficult for an editor looking at "What links here" who wants to identify articles which have a connection to the page in question. Above all it is difficult to imagine any reader being better served by this template than by a series of sensible links to and from that list of jubilees and the articles on the jubilees. It was only created in February 2021 and I suggest that it does not benefit the encyclopedia. Pam D 20:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm actually against deleting it, because it covers a variety of topics that appear to be related, and are all centered around the idea of celebrating the British monarch's reign. Personally, I think the problem can be solved by trimming it down a little bit. For example, the recent edit that added the list of buildings dedicated to Queen Victoria during her Diamond Jubilee was simply excessive. Exclude that, and you get a template with a reasonable size that covers mostly related articles. Keivan.f Talk 20:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think a navbox linking the 10 jubilees could be useful, but anything more seems excessive.
Pam
D
20:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it's not entirely true that the articles within the template are unrelated, because some of these events occur during each jubilee, so there's a common theme. One example would be the medals that are made and distributed each time. As I said before, removing the excessive stuff that are actually unrelated would help, including the list of buildings. Keivan.f Talk 23:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think a navbox linking the 10 jubilees could be useful, but anything more seems excessive.
Pam
D
20:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep the template per Keivan.f, with the recently added buildings removed. Peter Ormond 💬 20:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 21:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or heavily prune it to just the articles specifically about the jubilees, though even then, not convinced it's a useful enough template. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject Demi Lovato/class
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. In particular, if the project becomes active, or some other reason arises where this template would be used/useful again. Primefac ( talk) 09:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Class list for inactive project. When using test previews to see the template transclusion all that shows up is the word "Project". Doesn't work the way it once did. This is no longer needed. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:NATO command structure/IMS
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Unused subpage of Template:NATO command structure. Not sure what this is trying to achieve outside of having a box to show the coat of arms of the IMS. But I'm sure this image can be added to the main template. Unless this was made for something else. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Atlantic hurricane season
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:46, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Unused. Just a hatnote to link to the Atlantic hurricane season article. Seems to be a pretty small thing to use template space for. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:24, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Mohsen Chavoshi
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the template's undeletion. Primefac ( talk) 09:48, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
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Three links related to the subject. All three albums are linked on Mohsen's page already. The related articles section is irrelevant because those normally go on broader topic navboxes. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:2022 monkeypox outbreak
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The result of the discussion was keep. No prejudice against renomination in the future if other reasons can be found that this navbox is not necessary (e.g. the articles-to-be-written never get written). Primefac ( talk) 09:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Too soon. Only two links related to the 2022 outbreak. Can be recreated if more articles for this event are created such as the outbreak in countries. But for now, it's best to hold off until then. WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 18:04, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - The
Monkeypox outbreak task force (me included) is writing articles on the outbreaks in countries, so this template can be expected to be filled very soon.
Chaotic Enby (
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18:12, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- For the countries articles, you would need three just to have basic navigation. Which three are close to being ready? --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk)
18:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- The UK one is close to being ready - others less so, but this number can probably be reached today or tomorrow. Deleting a template just to have it be recreated the next day isn't really worth it.
Chaotic Enby (
talk)
18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- No worries; the TFD process goes for at least seven days. If the template is in a more useful state at that point, it will be easy to keep it. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 04:49, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- The UK one is close to being ready - others less so, but this number can probably be reached today or tomorrow. Deleting a template just to have it be recreated the next day isn't really worth it.
Chaotic Enby (
talk)
18:28, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- For the countries articles, you would need three just to have basic navigation. Which three are close to being ready? --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk)
18:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep — As I think it will be helpful, now that some of the ‘outbreak by location’ articles are being created. Elijahandskip ( talk) 05:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep — it would be helpful as more countries are getting the articles for the epidemic. Thingofme ( talk) 03:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep ~ AntisocialRyan ( talk) 14:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Already useful as it is, and I expect a few more countries to get a standalone article soon. MarioGom ( talk) 19:18, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Ill de
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:18, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Gonnym (
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11:42, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom, they aren't beneficial. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:SIR color
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Unused and replaced with Module:Adjacent stations/Staten Island Railway. Gonnym ( talk) 08:58, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:TGV inOui color
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/SNCF. Gonnym ( talk) 07:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Template:4TeamBracket-SPFL
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit 03:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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Replaced by {{4TeamBracket-Stepladder|legs=2|aggregate=y}}. –
Aidan721 (
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02:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - not used. Giant Snowman 15:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unused and superceded. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 07:18, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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