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Primefac (
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01:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Looking at those, they should also probably be deleted, as they're too big and/or fragmented to be useful too. Decade splits are completely arbitrary. --
woodensuperman12:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Probably the only useful template would be original upcoming series. Otherwise the user could use the list of netflix originals (which can be sorted) or the category page. --
Foia req (
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05:03, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
"Other stuff does not exist" is not a valid argument. Wikipedia is always expanding with new content and ideas, that's the very point of it. -- AlexTW11:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
But this new idea is a bad idea. Imagine if we started navboxes for every single ended ABC show, BBC show, NBC show, etc, etc... Current and upcoming is the usual format for navboxes of this type, but to reduce it to this would not sufficiently address the size issue and the navbox would still be too big to perform a useful navigational function. --
woodensuperman11:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
It would only be necessary for enormous navboxes like this, not a small typical broadcaster one. It definitely addresses the size issue, as they are split into four much-smaller templates, the usages of this template replaced with those, and then this one would be deleted. -- AlexTW14:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
We only include current and upcoming programming for other broadcasters (see {{NBCNetwork Shows (current and upcoming)}}), past programming is left for categories and lists due to the large amount of back-catalogue productions. No reason to deviate from this here. However, as this navbox would still be too large after any split/purge, despite what you claim above, it has outgrown its usefulness. There's a reason we don't have a BBC programming navbox (for example). --
woodensuperman14:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Do we? I can list a great number of navboxes that have past series as well. Is this a guideline or standard practice? Because I've never seen that stated. This navbox wouldn't exist after any split, so I'm not sure how it'll be too large when it's been deleted? A BBC programming navbox is a good idea, thanks for that... -- AlexTW14:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Yes, but the BBC apparently has two hundred current, and thirty-four upcoming shows by a quick search for all the times "* '" appears. If Netflix ever gets close to the point where it exceeds the BBC in upcoming productions, a new decision could be made, but I doubt it, since Netflix will always license shows. — Preceding
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Foia req (
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21:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Also spiting the template into four new navbox is just not practical. The entire point of this navbox is to see the entire Netflix programming for current and upcoming series (and ended, which really has become to large to be included like the Big Four US networks). What would be the point in splitting off the upcoming shows to a completely separate navbox? With Netflix ordering a new series almost everyday (there are over 160 upcoming series), it's just not feasible to keep this template and/or split it into four new ones since those will also become too big and not particularly useful. It is better to use categories and
List of original programs distributed by Netflix. -
Brojam (
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18:56, 30 June 2018 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was split then redirect. Nearly everyone agrees that the template in its current form should not exist, but there is a slight majority for splitting rather than outright deletion. After the split occurs there is no prejudice against nomination of the template(s) for deletion, mostly based on recent consensus to delete similar templates and the (completely valid) "delete" arguments against this type of template. As a note, the split will require attribution, which requires that the original template be kept. I recommend redirecting to the "current" variant when it is created.
Primefac (
talk)
01:07, 9 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Looking at those, they should also probably be deleted, as they're too big and/or fragmented to be useful too. Decade splits are completely arbitrary. --
woodensuperman12:09, 5 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Probably the only useful template would be original upcoming series. Otherwise the user could use the list of netflix originals (which can be sorted) or the category page. --
Foia req (
talk)
05:03, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
"Other stuff does not exist" is not a valid argument. Wikipedia is always expanding with new content and ideas, that's the very point of it. -- AlexTW11:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
But this new idea is a bad idea. Imagine if we started navboxes for every single ended ABC show, BBC show, NBC show, etc, etc... Current and upcoming is the usual format for navboxes of this type, but to reduce it to this would not sufficiently address the size issue and the navbox would still be too big to perform a useful navigational function. --
woodensuperman11:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
It would only be necessary for enormous navboxes like this, not a small typical broadcaster one. It definitely addresses the size issue, as they are split into four much-smaller templates, the usages of this template replaced with those, and then this one would be deleted. -- AlexTW14:19, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
We only include current and upcoming programming for other broadcasters (see {{NBCNetwork Shows (current and upcoming)}}), past programming is left for categories and lists due to the large amount of back-catalogue productions. No reason to deviate from this here. However, as this navbox would still be too large after any split/purge, despite what you claim above, it has outgrown its usefulness. There's a reason we don't have a BBC programming navbox (for example). --
woodensuperman14:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Do we? I can list a great number of navboxes that have past series as well. Is this a guideline or standard practice? Because I've never seen that stated. This navbox wouldn't exist after any split, so I'm not sure how it'll be too large when it's been deleted? A BBC programming navbox is a good idea, thanks for that... -- AlexTW14:44, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Yes, but the BBC apparently has two hundred current, and thirty-four upcoming shows by a quick search for all the times "* '" appears. If Netflix ever gets close to the point where it exceeds the BBC in upcoming productions, a new decision could be made, but I doubt it, since Netflix will always license shows. — Preceding
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Foia req (
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21:08, 27 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Also spiting the template into four new navbox is just not practical. The entire point of this navbox is to see the entire Netflix programming for current and upcoming series (and ended, which really has become to large to be included like the Big Four US networks). What would be the point in splitting off the upcoming shows to a completely separate navbox? With Netflix ordering a new series almost everyday (there are over 160 upcoming series), it's just not feasible to keep this template and/or split it into four new ones since those will also become too big and not particularly useful. It is better to use categories and
List of original programs distributed by Netflix. -
Brojam (
talk)
18:56, 30 June 2018 (UTC)reply
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