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April 14

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Navbox which navigates only 2 topics. Izno ( talk) 22:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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Mass Fb team templates Japan (1)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Old style, no need, even some of are redlinks, should be subst or replaced by other template or style. Previous discussions plaese see WT:FOOTY and previous TfDs. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 14:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Oppose They might be the old style, but they're still in use? I don't understand the desire to delete these templates, but nobody seems to want to update the tables to the more modern format? Hell, when I create these types of pages now, I still use the "depreciated" templates. - J man708 ( talk) 01:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ J man708: If the result of the discussion is delete, these templates can be orphaned after the discussion is closed. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 05:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
We can develop a bot to update table, such as PrimeBOT or Sporkbot. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 05:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Then why not AFD it AFTER the bot has been updated? - J man708 ( talk) 05:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
We have WP:Templates for discussion/Holding cell. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ SuperJew: like {{ Fb team Antlers}}Kashima Antlers. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 22:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
And using Module:Sports results and Module:Sports table instead. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 22:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Hhhhhkohhhhh: so first convert all the tables using it as above (also don't forget flags for countries which are not the country of the club) or request a bot to do it. Then, deprecate the templates using them with appropriate documentation so that editors don't try to use them. And after all the templates are not in use and the templates using them are deprecated, then go for mass deletion. I'm not objecting to the concept, but to the order of actions. -- SuperJew ( talk) 07:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
  • SuperJew and J man708 the point of TfD is to first determine if there is a consensus to eliminate the use of a template and if it is viable to replace it. It doesn't make sense to do numerous edits to convert all the tables if people don't want to convert all the tables - that's is why we have this discussion first. Then once a consensus is there the template is listed in WP:TFDH, where time is given - as much time as needed - for all instances to be removed. The templates are definitely not going to be deleted before the instances are removed. Unlike in other deletion discussions, this discussion ending in delete doesn't mean instant deletion. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Galobtter: In all previous discussions I've seen that were about this type of template that ended in a delete consensus (usually because only 1 or 2 people even commented on them), the templates were deleted and the tables using them screwed up. -- SuperJew ( talk) 08:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
SuperJew Could you point to such a discussion. That seems rather strange. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:57, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). ( non-admin closure) Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 06:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

all red links Frietjes ( talk) 15:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

April 14

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Navbox which navigates only 2 topics. Izno ( talk) 22:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Mass Fb team templates Japan (1)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) —  JJMC89( T· C) 07:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Old style, no need, even some of are redlinks, should be subst or replaced by other template or style. Previous discussions plaese see WT:FOOTY and previous TfDs. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 14:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Oppose They might be the old style, but they're still in use? I don't understand the desire to delete these templates, but nobody seems to want to update the tables to the more modern format? Hell, when I create these types of pages now, I still use the "depreciated" templates. - J man708 ( talk) 01:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ J man708: If the result of the discussion is delete, these templates can be orphaned after the discussion is closed. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 05:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
We can develop a bot to update table, such as PrimeBOT or Sporkbot. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 05:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Then why not AFD it AFTER the bot has been updated? - J man708 ( talk) 05:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
We have WP:Templates for discussion/Holding cell. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ SuperJew: like {{ Fb team Antlers}}Kashima Antlers. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 22:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
And using Module:Sports results and Module:Sports table instead. Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 22:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Hhhhhkohhhhh: so first convert all the tables using it as above (also don't forget flags for countries which are not the country of the club) or request a bot to do it. Then, deprecate the templates using them with appropriate documentation so that editors don't try to use them. And after all the templates are not in use and the templates using them are deprecated, then go for mass deletion. I'm not objecting to the concept, but to the order of actions. -- SuperJew ( talk) 07:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
  • SuperJew and J man708 the point of TfD is to first determine if there is a consensus to eliminate the use of a template and if it is viable to replace it. It doesn't make sense to do numerous edits to convert all the tables if people don't want to convert all the tables - that's is why we have this discussion first. Then once a consensus is there the template is listed in WP:TFDH, where time is given - as much time as needed - for all instances to be removed. The templates are definitely not going to be deleted before the instances are removed. Unlike in other deletion discussions, this discussion ending in delete doesn't mean instant deletion. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Galobtter: In all previous discussions I've seen that were about this type of template that ended in a delete consensus (usually because only 1 or 2 people even commented on them), the templates were deleted and the tables using them screwed up. -- SuperJew ( talk) 08:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
SuperJew Could you point to such a discussion. That seems rather strange. Galobtter ( pingó mió) 08:57, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). ( non-admin closure) Hhhhhkohhhhh ( talk) 06:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC) reply

all red links Frietjes ( talk) 15:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

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