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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Template isn't needed any more, as it was replaced with {{subst:NAMESPACENUMBER}}. mabdul 21:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. If I'm the only one who feels this way, I won't drag this out until another admin comes along. -- BDD ( talk) 17:47, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something, but this redirect tag just seems too broad to be useful. Almost any redirect is an "alternative name," given the vagueness of that phrase. It would almost be more useful to tag redirects that don't work as alternative names. BDD ( talk) 18:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. Part of a widely used and useful set of templates; see Category:All redirect templates. The 63909 transclusions suggest that the community finds this useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:08, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that redirect templates in general are useful; rest assured that this isn't a backdoor assault on them in general. But ultimately, all this one is saying is "this is a redirect." --
BDD (
talk)
22:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- This is saying this is a redirect from an alternative name, instead of from a subtopic or related term or viable search term that is not another name for the article. It clearly says it is an alternative name (and can serve as "documentation" saying that it is an alternative name, so someone may look more closely before dumping it to RFD as being unmentioned at the target article. (and making all our articles turn into dictionary entries with a long list of synonyms because we're deleting synonyms as being unmentioned)) -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:15, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that redirect templates in general are useful; rest assured that this isn't a backdoor assault on them in general. But ultimately, all this one is saying is "this is a redirect." --
BDD (
talk)
22:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Helps to distinguish from, say, a shortened form of somebody's full name (see
{{ R from short name}}) or a more complete name of a person (see{{ R from long name}}), and several others. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 08:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC) - Keep. Redirects may not necessarily be an "alternative name". For example, we have {{ R to section}} and {{ R with possibilities}} to mark possible topics that may in the future be split into their own separate articles. We have redirects that go to a specific namespace. We have redirects for specific administrative purposes, such as marking merges, technical restrictions regarding article names, and so forth. And even though we have redirects that are more specific, like {{ R to initialism}} or {{ R from plural}}, {{ R from alternative name}} is needed for redirects that do not fall into those specific categories. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 02:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've never truly seen the point in these redirect categories, but presumably we're better with universal coverage if we're going to bother at all. "Alternative name" isn't very specific, but that's perhaps the point - it's something to fall back on if the redirect doesn't fall into any other category. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 09:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Most of the 'redirect from name' templates relate to variations on the page name, whereas this template does not imply any syntactic relation between the name of the target page and the name of the redirect page; in other words, the two names can be completely different under this template, unlike most other related templates. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 22:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep As per Chris Cunningham, I'm not really sure what the point of these categories is, but this one is useful if nothing more specific applies. Peter coxhead ( talk) 12:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
unused now. all articles have been merged into the main article. 2013_Kagame_Interclub_Cup Koppapa ( talk) 08:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - not enough links. Mentoz86 ( talk) 09:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete per nominator. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 05:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - serves no purpose. Giant Snowman 10:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
This is qualifying round for Futsal World Cup only. Navboxes are unnecessary! Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2008 Oceanian Futsal Championship ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2010 Oceanian Futsal Championship ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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- Delete all per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete - such minor, minor tournaments should not have navboxes, especially with so many redlinks. Giant Snowman 10:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisting on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 27. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:12, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
This is a past squad of the Peru football team. It is not used in any article. It's very necessary to delete it. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep - Provides useful navigation between articles on a related subject. Mentoz86 ( talk) 22:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete - excessive and redundant. -- MicroX ( talk) 22:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - there's a good reason I made no use of it in the Peru national football team article (and I created it). However, I appreciate Mentoz's view that it improves navigation. ;-) -- MarshalN20 | Talk 23:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - OR, surely? Giant Snowman 10:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 1979 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2003 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2007 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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This is a minor multi-sport event. It is not international as well as continental multi-sport event. Formerly, it was qualifying round for FIFA World Cup. It is REALLY not necessary. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete all per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - such minor, minor tournaments should not have navboxes, especially with so many redlinks. Giant Snowman 10:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:11, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Template isn't needed any more, as it was replaced with {{subst:NAMESPACENUMBER}}. mabdul 21:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. If I'm the only one who feels this way, I won't drag this out until another admin comes along. -- BDD ( talk) 17:47, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something, but this redirect tag just seems too broad to be useful. Almost any redirect is an "alternative name," given the vagueness of that phrase. It would almost be more useful to tag redirects that don't work as alternative names. BDD ( talk) 18:28, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep. Part of a widely used and useful set of templates; see Category:All redirect templates. The 63909 transclusions suggest that the community finds this useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:08, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that redirect templates in general are useful; rest assured that this isn't a backdoor assault on them in general. But ultimately, all this one is saying is "this is a redirect." --
BDD (
talk)
22:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- This is saying this is a redirect from an alternative name, instead of from a subtopic or related term or viable search term that is not another name for the article. It clearly says it is an alternative name (and can serve as "documentation" saying that it is an alternative name, so someone may look more closely before dumping it to RFD as being unmentioned at the target article. (and making all our articles turn into dictionary entries with a long list of synonyms because we're deleting synonyms as being unmentioned)) -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:15, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that redirect templates in general are useful; rest assured that this isn't a backdoor assault on them in general. But ultimately, all this one is saying is "this is a redirect." --
BDD (
talk)
22:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Helps to distinguish from, say, a shortened form of somebody's full name (see
{{ R from short name}}) or a more complete name of a person (see{{ R from long name}}), and several others. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 08:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC) - Keep. Redirects may not necessarily be an "alternative name". For example, we have {{ R to section}} and {{ R with possibilities}} to mark possible topics that may in the future be split into their own separate articles. We have redirects that go to a specific namespace. We have redirects for specific administrative purposes, such as marking merges, technical restrictions regarding article names, and so forth. And even though we have redirects that are more specific, like {{ R to initialism}} or {{ R from plural}}, {{ R from alternative name}} is needed for redirects that do not fall into those specific categories. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 02:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've never truly seen the point in these redirect categories, but presumably we're better with universal coverage if we're going to bother at all. "Alternative name" isn't very specific, but that's perhaps the point - it's something to fall back on if the redirect doesn't fall into any other category. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) ( talk) 09:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Most of the 'redirect from name' templates relate to variations on the page name, whereas this template does not imply any syntactic relation between the name of the target page and the name of the redirect page; in other words, the two names can be completely different under this template, unlike most other related templates. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 22:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep As per Chris Cunningham, I'm not really sure what the point of these categories is, but this one is useful if nothing more specific applies. Peter coxhead ( talk) 12:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
unused now. all articles have been merged into the main article. 2013_Kagame_Interclub_Cup Koppapa ( talk) 08:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - not enough links. Mentoz86 ( talk) 09:02, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Delete per nominator. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 05:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - serves no purpose. Giant Snowman 10:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
This is qualifying round for Futsal World Cup only. Navboxes are unnecessary! Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2008 Oceanian Futsal Championship ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2010 Oceanian Futsal Championship ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2011 Oceanian Futsal Championship ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Delete all per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. -- BDD ( talk) 22:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - such minor, minor tournaments should not have navboxes, especially with so many redlinks. Giant Snowman 10:39, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisting on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 27. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:12, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:26, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
This is a past squad of the Peru football team. It is not used in any article. It's very necessary to delete it. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Keep - Provides useful navigation between articles on a related subject. Mentoz86 ( talk) 22:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. -- BDD ( talk) 22:20, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - excessive and redundant. -- MicroX ( talk) 22:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - there's a good reason I made no use of it in the Peru national football team article (and I created it). However, I appreciate Mentoz's view that it improves navigation. ;-) -- MarshalN20 | Talk 23:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - OR, surely? Giant Snowman 10:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 16:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 1979 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2003 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2007 South Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Tuvalu squad 2011 Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Kiribati squad for 2011 Pacific Games ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This is a minor multi-sport event. It is not international as well as continental multi-sport event. Formerly, it was qualifying round for FIFA World Cup. It is REALLY not necessary. Banhtrung1 ( talk) 15:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete all per the nominator. Sawol ( talk) 08:09, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - such minor, minor tournaments should not have navboxes, especially with so many redlinks. Giant Snowman 10:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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