The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:33, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Social networking site, seems to be an WP:ELNO candidate. Corresponding article was deleted via A7. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 19:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 15:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Unused. Izno ( talk) 15:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was deprecate and merge with core citation templates with |format=
and |formatsize=
or |filesize=
or |urlsize=
(see
this discussion)
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk)
23:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Template is misused, is little known, and is of little use. As used, (example:
Sago Mine disaster) it produces bare urls, does not account for publisher, author, date, agency, accessdate and other significant citation details. It is not tracked or tagged for dead links, nor repaired for them by automated tools. It is not on the new editor training path, nor is it commonly used or suggested in discussion. The entirety of the functionality of this template is replaced by the citation parameters "|format=
PDF" No other indication of PDF status beyond this is ever required. and |formatsize=
(new, see below) (useful for those with limited or expensive internet connectivity). This template was last nominated for deletion
in 2006 and kept. Well, it's not 2006 anymore. People know about PDF and know exactly what to do about it. Mediawiki even adds a cute little graphical indicator automatically wherever links to PDFs are used, completely obviating the need for this "user warning" template. Its sole functions are to change font and add a size parameter in that same font. Its use is finicky, incompatible with "=" in URLs, incompatible with Cite templates, and so on. Why it's used in over 9000 places is beyond comprehension. Does the bot designed to "keep size parameter up to date" run? If so, why doesn't it tag dead URLs as dead (see example article linked above). The way I see it, this is a big albatross, and it's time to cut it loose, and set an AWB task to replace all of its 9000 uses with standard citation or external link formulations.
Lexein (
talk)
12:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
{{{1}}}
and then substituting it).
Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (
talk)
13:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)PDFlink
. --
Gadget850
talk
13:40, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
|formatsize=
? --
Izno (
talk)
17:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
|format=
=PDF is specified, perhaps |pdfsize=
should be specified. Error if not?--
Lexein (
talk)
23:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
|pdfsize=
or better a |formatsize=
(that includes .pdf
and .doc
or .xls
or other types of files) option to the citation templates and I would support such a proposal. However, I've hit harsh resistance (from the
cabal?) every time I've proposed changes to that often used set of templates. -
tucoxn\
talk
04:01, 27 April 2013 (UTC)|pdfsize=
parameter for exceptionally large files. Many PDFs are very small, and forcing a mandatory size description would be a lot of work for little result. —
Scott •
talk
12:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC).pdf
file. Further, internet browsing is relatively new in some developing areas, where "PDFHell" is still a place to suffer. Please re-consider your comment with a larger world-view in mind. -
tucoxn\
talk
23:27, 30 April 2013 (UTC)The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:33, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Social networking site, seems to be an WP:ELNO candidate. Corresponding article was deleted via A7. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 19:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 15:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Unused. Izno ( talk) 15:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was deprecate and merge with core citation templates with |format=
and |formatsize=
or |filesize=
or |urlsize=
(see
this discussion)
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk)
23:37, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Template is misused, is little known, and is of little use. As used, (example:
Sago Mine disaster) it produces bare urls, does not account for publisher, author, date, agency, accessdate and other significant citation details. It is not tracked or tagged for dead links, nor repaired for them by automated tools. It is not on the new editor training path, nor is it commonly used or suggested in discussion. The entirety of the functionality of this template is replaced by the citation parameters "|format=
PDF" No other indication of PDF status beyond this is ever required. and |formatsize=
(new, see below) (useful for those with limited or expensive internet connectivity). This template was last nominated for deletion
in 2006 and kept. Well, it's not 2006 anymore. People know about PDF and know exactly what to do about it. Mediawiki even adds a cute little graphical indicator automatically wherever links to PDFs are used, completely obviating the need for this "user warning" template. Its sole functions are to change font and add a size parameter in that same font. Its use is finicky, incompatible with "=" in URLs, incompatible with Cite templates, and so on. Why it's used in over 9000 places is beyond comprehension. Does the bot designed to "keep size parameter up to date" run? If so, why doesn't it tag dead URLs as dead (see example article linked above). The way I see it, this is a big albatross, and it's time to cut it loose, and set an AWB task to replace all of its 9000 uses with standard citation or external link formulations.
Lexein (
talk)
12:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
{{{1}}}
and then substituting it).
Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (
talk)
13:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)PDFlink
. --
Gadget850
talk
13:40, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
|formatsize=
? --
Izno (
talk)
17:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
|format=
=PDF is specified, perhaps |pdfsize=
should be specified. Error if not?--
Lexein (
talk)
23:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
|pdfsize=
or better a |formatsize=
(that includes .pdf
and .doc
or .xls
or other types of files) option to the citation templates and I would support such a proposal. However, I've hit harsh resistance (from the
cabal?) every time I've proposed changes to that often used set of templates. -
tucoxn\
talk
04:01, 27 April 2013 (UTC)|pdfsize=
parameter for exceptionally large files. Many PDFs are very small, and forcing a mandatory size description would be a lot of work for little result. —
Scott •
talk
12:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC).pdf
file. Further, internet browsing is relatively new in some developing areas, where "PDFHell" is still a place to suffer. Please re-consider your comment with a larger world-view in mind. -
tucoxn\
talk
23:27, 30 April 2013 (UTC)