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The result of the debate was keep. Discussion can continue on the template talk pages -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:BILru ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:PIru ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
WP:OR and as per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(icons)#Inventing_new_icons. Their is no proven usage of this flag for the lions. Gnevin ( talk) 23:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
WP:Flag and WP:RU have been informed for this discussion Gnevin ( talk) 15:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - the flags depicted are rarely used because both teams don't play on a yearly basis but play every 2 years, the template should be kept and if there is a problem with the flags, ask at
WP:RU ...--
Comet
styles
11:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Can you prove the usage? I've never seen them, ever! Without the flag this template is pointless Gnevin ( talk) 15:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I am on the fence with respect to keep or delete, but have some additional information for other editors to consider. In both cases, I don't think the flags are ever directly stated to represent those teams (but perhaps there is an implicit statement). They are shortcuts, in a sense, of putting three or four flags next to these multi-national team names in match summaries. For example, instead of:
| May 31 1980 |
South Africa  | 26 – 22 |
British and Irish Lions |
| Try: Louw c W. du Plessis c Van Heerden Germishuys c Serfontein Con: Botha (3) | Try:
Price Pen: Ward (5) Drop Ward |
| Attendance: 38,170 Referee: F Palmade  |
- One alternative would be:
| May 31 1980 |
|
South Africa | 26 – 22 |
British and Irish Lions |
| Try: Louw c W. du Plessis c Van Heerden Germishuys c Serfontein Con: Botha (3) | Try:
Price Pen: Ward (5) Drop Ward |
| Attendance: 38,170 Referee: F Palmade |
- and another alternative would be no flag(s) at all. If you look at the Lions or
Pacific Islanders rugby union team articles, you'll see that the bottom of the infoboxes have all four or three flags and not just these artificially combined images, so really, these templates are only being used for match and team results as a more compact form of the multiple flags. I think the question that needs to be answered in this TfD is which is the best representation of these multi-national teams in results tables:
- images that combine 3 or 4 flags into one rectangle the same size as individual flags (current template usage)
- show all 3 or 4 flags for these teams
- use no flag images at all.
- — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep No logical reason to get rid of either. Use of four flags looks especially ridiculous
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
15:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- PS The actual Lions flag is based on their shield which can be seen here
British Lions site. Maybe the template design could be changed to this shield.
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
16:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- That would have to be a free image for use in this template, and I'm not sure if someone holds copyright over that shield or not. The four individual elements are probably free for use, so an image author would have to create the combination in Inkscape by hand. We cannot just download the image from that website!! That's similar to what we did for Image:Flag of Ireland hockey team.svg. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 17:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- PS The actual Lions flag is based on their shield which can be seen here
British Lions site. Maybe the template design could be changed to this shield.
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
16:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Why do we need any image ? Gnevin ( talk) 19:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Orphan and useless. Having a full list of episodes every character appeared is not the best for an infobox. Magioladitis ( talk) 14:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unnecessary template, and unlikely to be used. Jor dan Contribs 14:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unused, not needed. Matthewedwards ( talk • contribs • email) 16:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. No uses for it. — Mizu onna sango15 Hello! 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Speedy delete previously was declined. The template is unused and unlikely to be used. -- Suntag ☼ 22:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, admins may wanna put this on their user page just as a sort of service. ViperSnake151 13:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. This template is just a link to a special page. Why someone not just add the link and prefer to use a template? Besides that, none is using it!-- Magioladitis ( talk) 23:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Locobot ( talk) 01:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC) -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 10:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unlikely to be used, possibly redundant template. Jor dan Contribs 14:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, no harm done in keeping it, but it doesn't serve any purpose that a simple link couldn't do. — Mizu onna sango15 Hello! 20:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy delete by an admin (non-admin closure). Magioladitis ( talk) 23:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Dynasty character ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template I created is now unused and obsolete, replaced by {{ Infobox soap character}} — TAnthony Talk 04:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC) — TAnthony Talk 04:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect since there's an off chance the old template may be applied by accident. - J Greb ( talk) 10:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as we do with all redundant templates. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 12:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete No longer needed. Jor dan Contribs 14:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Degrassi character ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to {{ Infobox character}} Magioladitis ( talk) 00:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - Template is unused, having been rendered obsolete and replaced by {{ Infobox character}}. — TAnthony Talk 06:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete general template covers everything. Matthewedwards ( talk • contribs • email) 06:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect since there's an off chance the old template may be applied by accident. - J Greb ( talk) 10:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's common tactic to delete redundant templates. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 12:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete This template has been replaced, and no longer has any use. Jor dan Contribs 14:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: This template is not in use, and has been superceded by {{ Infobox character}}. Headbomb { ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 15:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep. Discussion can continue on the template talk pages -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:BILru ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:PIru ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
WP:OR and as per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(icons)#Inventing_new_icons. Their is no proven usage of this flag for the lions. Gnevin ( talk) 23:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
WP:Flag and WP:RU have been informed for this discussion Gnevin ( talk) 15:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - the flags depicted are rarely used because both teams don't play on a yearly basis but play every 2 years, the template should be kept and if there is a problem with the flags, ask at
WP:RU ...--
Comet
styles
11:37, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Can you prove the usage? I've never seen them, ever! Without the flag this template is pointless Gnevin ( talk) 15:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I am on the fence with respect to keep or delete, but have some additional information for other editors to consider. In both cases, I don't think the flags are ever directly stated to represent those teams (but perhaps there is an implicit statement). They are shortcuts, in a sense, of putting three or four flags next to these multi-national team names in match summaries. For example, instead of:
| May 31 1980 |
|
South Africa | 26 – 22 |
British and Irish Lions |
| Try: Louw c W. du Plessis c Van Heerden Germishuys c Serfontein Con: Botha (3) | Try:
Price Pen: Ward (5) Drop Ward |
| Attendance: 38,170 Referee: F Palmade |
- One alternative would be:
| May 31 1980 |
|
South Africa | 26 – 22 |
British and Irish Lions |
| Try: Louw c W. du Plessis c Van Heerden Germishuys c Serfontein Con: Botha (3) | Try:
Price Pen: Ward (5) Drop Ward |
| Attendance: 38,170 Referee: F Palmade |
- and another alternative would be no flag(s) at all. If you look at the Lions or
Pacific Islanders rugby union team articles, you'll see that the bottom of the infoboxes have all four or three flags and not just these artificially combined images, so really, these templates are only being used for match and team results as a more compact form of the multiple flags. I think the question that needs to be answered in this TfD is which is the best representation of these multi-national teams in results tables:
- images that combine 3 or 4 flags into one rectangle the same size as individual flags (current template usage)
- show all 3 or 4 flags for these teams
- use no flag images at all.
- — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep No logical reason to get rid of either. Use of four flags looks especially ridiculous
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
15:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- PS The actual Lions flag is based on their shield which can be seen here
British Lions site. Maybe the template design could be changed to this shield.
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
16:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- That would have to be a free image for use in this template, and I'm not sure if someone holds copyright over that shield or not. The four individual elements are probably free for use, so an image author would have to create the combination in Inkscape by hand. We cannot just download the image from that website!! That's similar to what we did for Image:Flag of Ireland hockey team.svg. — Andrwsc ( talk · contribs) 17:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- PS The actual Lions flag is based on their shield which can be seen here
British Lions site. Maybe the template design could be changed to this shield.
Djln--
Djln (
talk)
16:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Why do we need any image ? Gnevin ( talk) 19:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Orphan and useless. Having a full list of episodes every character appeared is not the best for an infobox. Magioladitis ( talk) 14:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unnecessary template, and unlikely to be used. Jor dan Contribs 14:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unused, not needed. Matthewedwards ( talk • contribs • email) 16:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. No uses for it. — Mizu onna sango15 Hello! 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Speedy delete previously was declined. The template is unused and unlikely to be used. -- Suntag ☼ 22:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, admins may wanna put this on their user page just as a sort of service. ViperSnake151 13:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. This template is just a link to a special page. Why someone not just add the link and prefer to use a template? Besides that, none is using it!-- Magioladitis ( talk) 23:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Locobot ( talk) 01:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC) -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 10:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Unlikely to be used, possibly redundant template. Jor dan Contribs 14:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, no harm done in keeping it, but it doesn't serve any purpose that a simple link couldn't do. — Mizu onna sango15 Hello! 20:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy delete by an admin (non-admin closure). Magioladitis ( talk) 23:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Dynasty character ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template I created is now unused and obsolete, replaced by {{ Infobox soap character}} — TAnthony Talk 04:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC) — TAnthony Talk 04:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect since there's an off chance the old template may be applied by accident. - J Greb ( talk) 10:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as we do with all redundant templates. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 12:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete No longer needed. Jor dan Contribs 14:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete -- Woohookitty Woohoo! 11:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Degrassi character ( talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Redundant to {{ Infobox character}} Magioladitis ( talk) 00:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - Template is unused, having been rendered obsolete and replaced by {{ Infobox character}}. — TAnthony Talk 06:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete general template covers everything. Matthewedwards ( talk • contribs • email) 06:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect since there's an off chance the old template may be applied by accident. - J Greb ( talk) 10:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's common tactic to delete redundant templates. -- Magioladitis ( talk) 12:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete This template has been replaced, and no longer has any use. Jor dan Contribs 14:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: This template is not in use, and has been superceded by {{ Infobox character}}. Headbomb { ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 15:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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