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I reviewed Draft:Conference of Translation Services of European States and declined it (two months ago) as not showing independent reliable evidence of notability, because two of the four sources were not independent. An unregistered editor then asked at my talk page:
Hello Robert, I'm writing to you from the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs on behalf of the Conference of Translation Services of European States (COTSOES), a network of government translation departments throughout Europe. We have previously submitted Wikipedia entries about our network in French, German and Portuguese and these have been accepted. Unfortunately, the English version has been rejected and yet it is a direct translation of the other language entries. This is a little bit bemusing and we would appreciate an explanation as to why this is the case and what exactly needs to be changed to have the English version approved. This is very important for us as English, French and German are the three official languages of the Conference. Many thanks for your help! Kind regards, Ruth Brown
I first will note that the Wikipedia in each language is independent of each other Wikipedia, and the English Wikipedia may have stricter standards than the other languages (possibly because it is larger and has become more selective). I will ask other editors here whether they think that this particular draft should be accepted with two independent sources. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi I was not following guidance when I started editing. I made many mistakes. The first one was that when I created my first wiki Ronda Peridotites, user Xx236 left a message on my page: What do you mean by Ronda peridotites? In my opinion that was too quick, I thought that it is clear from text I wrote. I was searching the references. I didnt know nothing about editing and I answered him on my talk page but not using : . I was just new with editing. The Article is accepted but his message is still on my talk page and I am not able to edit it. How I can change that? Thanks Obradow ( talk) 09:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I am having a lot of difficulty with adding Creative Commons tags to [3] I feel under pressure to make the page perfect while Wikipedia bots are programmed to overlook disability with respect to coding skill. The drop down menu is not available on edit and the designers of Wikipedia have discriminated against handicapped digital photographers. How can I make all the photos on this page Creative Commons which I have already declared, yet the automated bot is ruining things. Wikiworld2 ( talk) 12:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
[[Spencer Creek]]
is rendered as
Spencer Creek. --
David Biddulph (
talk)
12:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I am not new here but I am not sure what is done about userspace pages which are written like blogs. I just came across User talk:58.7.203.59, which is written almost like a book-like blog. The user has not returned since 2012. Could someone please look into this and advise what can be done? Thanks, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 13:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't know why my Sugarcane in Queensland was nominated for Speedy Deletion Contest. But I want to give the reason for why shouldn't it be in this deletion contest.
Amiy Chakraborty ( talk) 09:30, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I am Amy2563 or you can also call Amy. How can we really know that some of the articles or some contest types you arrange are not safe? And how can we know that all the articles can really be trusted? I wonder, if there are any marks which proves it that these can be trusted. I know, that these are too many questions but I am curious. I would be really thankful if any one of you can answer me!
Amy2563 ( talk) 16:00, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
tag next to it, or you can
remove it, depending on the severity of the inaccuracy. Ultimately, we cannot guarantee that anything written on Wikipedia is true and accurate, so there is no official mark or anything that says an article is safe to use, say, in an academic/professional context. Before using any content on Wikipedia, always be sure to check that it is true by reading its citation. Best of luck,
Mz7 (
talk)
16:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)Hey Mz7! I want some articles which needs to be edited. I don't know where to find them. I would like to have some choices from you so that I can be a part of Wikipedian-mates who tries to make the articles better. Please send me some names of articles which needs to be rectified. My specialty lies in all rectification work but especially in references or citation. Please and please and please and please. I am really getting bored and I need some work to do. Give me some names please!
-- Amy2563 ( talk) 17:30, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Why don't you answer to my questions? -- Amy2563 ( talk) 17:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
-- Amy2563 ( talk) 09:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
there is opening line of article Adriatic plate which I have impression that it might be wrong. But it might be also true. Where is the place to ask politely for reference? Talk page of this article? Obradow ( talk) 12:48, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
is it far nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of some one elses misgotten fortunes?
Hola all. I can find no reference to the word tive. Does anyone know a definition?
answers much appreciated. Thank you for your time and interest.
We journey on.
AStoNeMaSoN ( talk) 12:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I do have a suggestion. any ideas welcome. AStoNeMaSoN ( talk) 12:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments - but i am struggling to see how a story about the formation, the journey of a founder is any different to /info/en/?search=Samsung it talks about dates founded, the transition from engineering to products - the team, is the team and the point of the team is the experience. i can't tell a story without referencing the backgrounds - or it would be like "little red riding hood, went..." can't talk about the rest of the story? each reference is now amended to be from an external source. So please can someone help amend the story. there is no product or service for sale here. its factual about a transition into an entity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivertu ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
i recently submitted a page, i had it rejected due to references. i have since amended them and added more detail from external sources. is there a way to review it again or do i just re submit? ( Ivertu ( talk) 17:56, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I reviewed Draft:Apriva and declined it as not meeting corporate notability. I also noted that there had been a deletion discussion, and that it should not be accepted unless it was an improvement on the deleted article. Of course, I can’t see the deleted article without admin glasses. User:Shainar then asked me:
Hi Robert, Thanks so much for your feedback on the article I submitted on Apriva. Can you help me better understand what I can improve by answering the following questions? 1. Specifically, how can I better show the subject's notability? 2. What defines "significant coverage"? 3. Were there specific sources that aren't seen as reliable/independent, or weren't referenced properly? Basically, I'm trying to figure out if I can make little edits to get the article be approved or if the overall subject is not deemed worthy of inclusion at this time. Thanks!
I can’t be optimistic about an article that was previously deleted, and which I declined because most of the references were either to its own web site or were just press releases. Do other experienced editors care to comment? Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
User:Shainar asked me:
'Thank you! I noticed one of your comments was, "I can’t be optimistic about an article that was previously deleted, and which I declined because most of the references were either to its own web site or were just press releases." For what it's worth, I had no involvement in the creation or deletion of the previous article, and the one I submitted was a new version, not a re-write of the old version.'
I like hank the cowdog. a 5th episode will air 6/4/16. My files have gotten deleted. ` Triana2 ( talk) 02:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Having trouble getting specifics from reviewers on how this article is not written in a "neutral tone." /info/en/?search=Draft:Credible
There are no opinions expressed as facts in this article. There are no "seriously contested assertions" stated as facts. The article employs "nonjudgmental language" and it is written in a tone that "neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
There are no unsupported attributions, or adjectives ("peacock terms"). /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Puffery
The article includes references to "a range of independent, reliable, published sources" including Tech Crunch, Forbes, The Washington Post, U.S. News & World Report, CNBC, and Fortune. /info/en/?search=Draft:Credible#References
This is a legitimate article about a commercial entity, written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia editors are instructed that "a differentiation should be made between spam articles and legitimate articles about commercial entities." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Spam#Advertisements_masquerading_as_articles
There appears to be a double standard being applied to this post. Wikipedia editors routinely approve similar articles, including posts about companies that are in the same line of business -- CommonBond, SoFi, and Earnest. /info/en/?search=CommonBond /info/en/?search=SoFi /info/en/?search=Earnest_(company)
The reviewers who have rejected this article have provided no specific guidance on why this article is not neutral in tone. They appear to be making a subjective judgment call that Wikipedia users should have access to information about companies like CommonBond, SoFi and Earnest, but not the company that is the subject of this submission, Credible.
162.245.21.61 ( talk) 17:40, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Also, determining whether a claim is true or useful, particularly when few people know about the topic, often requires a more involved process to get the opinions of other editors. It's a good idea to raise objections on a talk page or at a relevant WikiProject. Discussing contentious claims helps editors to evaluate their accuracy and often leads to better sourcing and clearer phrasing." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Lack_of_neutrality_as_an_excuse_to_delete 162.245.21.61 ( talk) 22:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the references to websites that host press releases, and the reference to the YouTube video, as you sugggested. I have fixed the links to the Bloomberg and CNBC articles.
Here are my thoughts on some of your other suggestions.
References to company website. The references to the company website were not intended to establish notability, but to establish "utterly non-controversial facts" -- namely, the lenders who offer services through Credible.
I would like to keep the references to the Washington Post, Marketwatch, and Fortune because there is currently a national discussions going on about the difficulties millions face in repaying their student loan debt, and strategies for coping with that debt. Credible is helping inform that debate.
I have added a reference to an April 2016 NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt report featuring Credible, which explained how parents can refinance student loans they took out to help pay for their children's college at lower rates.
I have resubmitted the article.
162.245.21.61 ( talk) 16:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I would like to keep the references to the Washington Post, Marketwatch, and Fortune because there is currently a national discussions going on about the difficulties millions face in repaying their student loan debt, and strategies for coping with that debt. Credible is helping inform that debate.I have not seen the draft, but this sounds like a reason to possibly mention the company or cite its employees in an article about student debt, and not a reason to have an article dedicated to the company. Also, I think it should be said that while Wikipedia does offer many kinds of information, it is not a how-to guide, and it should not advocate for any kind of solution to any given problem.
Hi all
I'm trying to create a Bio page. It's my first time here. I was reviewed and declined because the refs were done wrong (my fault). They are corrected now by a very helpful wiki author. I'd like to add more refs now that I see how its done and also some images. The "edit button" on the article is gone. gone. There is only one on the "references" section.
Any ideas?
Thank you!
Jyprod ( talk) 07:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks both. Janni Younge is my wife and I am doing her bio page for her.
Oh dear I've been rejected again because I copied the basics from her website, hoping for a shortcut.
Jyprod ( talk) 13:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Ok - thanks. I can see how it would seem that way, but I am also someone who knows her career really well, having lived through it all. Her bio page should really exist, she is already referenced in another few articles. How can I get it done? Jyprod ( talk) 19:02, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for that suggestion Thnidu Jyprod ( talk) 07:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Larry - but I am not planning on writing about items that are 'private knowledge', it's more about that I'm someone able to connect the dots of the various published, citable sources on her.
Jyprod ( talk) 07:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Jyprod: Since you are intimately familiar with her career and life, your best course may be to write and publish your own biography of her, without WIkipedia. That biography would then be a reliable source we could use for the article. — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 04:31, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
In editing
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories § Harassment by conspiracy theorists, I found that two refs in the second paragraph of the section were identical except for the access date. I put one of them into
{{Cite news}} format as <ref name=Inquisitr>
, but I couldn't figure out how to specify a different access date for the other one, which was now just <ref name=Inquisitr />
. I put it into an HTML comment just after the ref, but how should it be done? Please
{{ping}} me in replying. --
Thnidu (
talk)
04:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I reviewed Draft: Salvador Partners twice, and declined it both times on grounds that it was promotional in language. It had been declined once before for notability reasons. User:Ivertu then posted to my talk page:
Hi, i believe i have been able to amend the wording as per your comments - my apologies, i have tried to replicate the style of submission from the stories from well known enties such as Samsung. i re read after your comments and, i hope made all of the relevant changes necessary. Kind Regards Lisa
It doesn’t appear to me that Ivertu has addressed my comments before resubmitting. The draft is still mostly about the management team and not about how the company is notable. I am not declining the submission a third time because I am asking for advice here. Can some other experienced editor please review and comment? Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Suppose i do-not know well about a topic... so i think i should not create a new page on that... but i think it should be on wikipedia. Then how could i request for that article to the experts?
these are my 3 questions on editing today. thanks. RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 08:33, 4 June 2016 (UTC) Copied and pasted the conversation in my talk page. Thanks.
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 07:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Could I upload image taken from a public museum? Would it hamper the copyright? ( And what for a zoological garden,or a botanical etc )?
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 07:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 08:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC) @ Cullen328: Thanks for your appreciation to the questions.
My question is how could I create articles without speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by SabirTech ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, I understand that sock puppetry should be taken very seriously and abide by WP:SOCK#LEGIT reasons if you want an alternate account. As such I want to start up an alternate account for the purpose of humorous userpage/security, just in case I'm asking this in advance if those reasons I've stated are ok to use an alternate account. Also can you have a completely different username rather than User (alt) or User (public) as long as you acknowledge that it is the alternate account of said user? Any answer will be great! Thank you in advance! Adog104 Talk to me 23:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I recently created an entry on the author of a viral blog from 2015, which was denied. Should I change my approach to the blog itself since that is the cultural reference people are more familiar with? SaladDayz ( talk) 17:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I just can't figure out how to insert a dead link to an article that is still on the same external site but not the same url. The page in question is /info/en/?search=Obesity_in_the_Pacific and the link I want to adjust is one of the reference section (South Pacific Leads the World in Obesity).
When I want to edit I see this:
Tried to figure it out by myself but couldn't and need some help.
Thanks!
Semelius Semelius ( talk) 12:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I don't want to insert a dead link but fix it. The link points to a page that no longer exists because they moved the article to another page/url. So the article is still on their site but with another url. I would like to replace the dead url with the good one. Semelius ( talk) 15:06, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads up that the AfC pending submissions has been getting a bit backlogged the last couple of weeks after being kept under control for quite a while by the sterling effort of others (and a tiny bit of input from myself). So if any experienced editors who do not check AFC normally but have the experience could help knock a couple off the 2,854 currently pending that would be great. Cheers KylieTastic ( talk) 18:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm trying to get /info/en/?search=Template:Lydia_Canaan to look and function like /info/en/?search=Template:Paul_McCartney_main but not only is the template info not visible on the Lydia Canaan page (just the header, but not the info as shown on template page itself), the header is also a violet color rather than the #F7E98E that the example I'm working with appears as (and it's important because want it to match the #F7E98E of the info box and other charts and tables). Can someone please help? Thank you in advance! WikiEditorial101 ( talk) 22:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
background
field; each gives the navbox a different colour. I've changed it from singer_songwriter
to solo_singer
, which should return the desired colour. Thanks!
/wiae
/tlk 03:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC
I am writing this as I feel this issue is important. I do not spend time on wiki looking for chat areas and such, which is why I am not familiar with all the codes and such that is used and I do not know where the appropriate place is to post this. Most of my time is spent doing research and writing articles. In saying this, I recently posted out a new article, in no time I was, in my opinion bullied by an editor or admin whichever they are and this has happened before to me by the same person. I had six citations and was told I did not have enough and the article was not written the way they felt it should be. I am a ‘double’ doctorate degree researcher, I am sought after to do research and write for encyclopedia’s and universities. I do my work to the best of my ability, in many cases once I have the article posted I then go back and start re-editing, writing and changing to get it how it should be or better done if need be. When I write an article it will be finished from start to finish including the image. One article would take me 10 months to locate the photographer. On three articles I am trying to fix now, that I am not the creator of, I have had to contact Worldcat identifier as the information is so messed up it is not even funny. Worldcat has been fantastic in working with me to get these errors corrected. On one of those articles facebook has linked the wiki account to a facebook account to a band with the same name, I am now attempting to get facebook to fix that error. I am curious as to why anyone would post an article they did not do all the work for? I do not understand, why it would be expected someone else to come along and do the work? I will say I am frustrated at editors I have found are doing this that post out articles (I am now doing the research for two started by the same person) and they do not complete the article or any of the research? Please explain this to me? Most of these articles come onto the delete list or serious issues list and it is expected someone else clean it up and do the work? Why is this? All over wiki I have seen comments of how to handle harassment, I am unsure this is harassment I feel its bullying. Then there are those that are saying they are being abused, in most cases of human nature if it is dished out you will receive it in kind. Maybe its time everyone on wiki etc,… start with a different approach and ask an editor of an article ‘why they did such’ instead of jumping all over them or having it come across this way. I feel wiki has reached the point that they are going to have to consider outside people not being allowed to work on articles. It’s going to have to be the actual people that join wiki and do the research and it’s time articles are locked (all) of them so they cannot be tampered with after completion. This is the way it is in any other encyclopedia I have worked on, outside people are not permitted to touch let alone alter information in articles. I have reached my limit, once I fix up these two last articles …. I am gone from wiki, that’s it for me. T Heart ( talk) 15:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
My article on Dwight Russel Micnhimer has been slated for speedy deletion citing that information already exists on wikipedia. but when i click on the existing information, it leads me to the article i have posted. Please help Godessofsmallthings ( talk) 08:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 485 | ← | Archive 489 | Archive 490 | Archive 491 | Archive 492 | Archive 493 | → | Archive 495 |
I reviewed Draft:Conference of Translation Services of European States and declined it (two months ago) as not showing independent reliable evidence of notability, because two of the four sources were not independent. An unregistered editor then asked at my talk page:
Hello Robert, I'm writing to you from the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs on behalf of the Conference of Translation Services of European States (COTSOES), a network of government translation departments throughout Europe. We have previously submitted Wikipedia entries about our network in French, German and Portuguese and these have been accepted. Unfortunately, the English version has been rejected and yet it is a direct translation of the other language entries. This is a little bit bemusing and we would appreciate an explanation as to why this is the case and what exactly needs to be changed to have the English version approved. This is very important for us as English, French and German are the three official languages of the Conference. Many thanks for your help! Kind regards, Ruth Brown
I first will note that the Wikipedia in each language is independent of each other Wikipedia, and the English Wikipedia may have stricter standards than the other languages (possibly because it is larger and has become more selective). I will ask other editors here whether they think that this particular draft should be accepted with two independent sources. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi I was not following guidance when I started editing. I made many mistakes. The first one was that when I created my first wiki Ronda Peridotites, user Xx236 left a message on my page: What do you mean by Ronda peridotites? In my opinion that was too quick, I thought that it is clear from text I wrote. I was searching the references. I didnt know nothing about editing and I answered him on my talk page but not using : . I was just new with editing. The Article is accepted but his message is still on my talk page and I am not able to edit it. How I can change that? Thanks Obradow ( talk) 09:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I am having a lot of difficulty with adding Creative Commons tags to [3] I feel under pressure to make the page perfect while Wikipedia bots are programmed to overlook disability with respect to coding skill. The drop down menu is not available on edit and the designers of Wikipedia have discriminated against handicapped digital photographers. How can I make all the photos on this page Creative Commons which I have already declared, yet the automated bot is ruining things. Wikiworld2 ( talk) 12:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
[[Spencer Creek]]
is rendered as
Spencer Creek. --
David Biddulph (
talk)
12:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I am not new here but I am not sure what is done about userspace pages which are written like blogs. I just came across User talk:58.7.203.59, which is written almost like a book-like blog. The user has not returned since 2012. Could someone please look into this and advise what can be done? Thanks, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 13:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't know why my Sugarcane in Queensland was nominated for Speedy Deletion Contest. But I want to give the reason for why shouldn't it be in this deletion contest.
Amiy Chakraborty ( talk) 09:30, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I am Amy2563 or you can also call Amy. How can we really know that some of the articles or some contest types you arrange are not safe? And how can we know that all the articles can really be trusted? I wonder, if there are any marks which proves it that these can be trusted. I know, that these are too many questions but I am curious. I would be really thankful if any one of you can answer me!
Amy2563 ( talk) 16:00, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
tag next to it, or you can
remove it, depending on the severity of the inaccuracy. Ultimately, we cannot guarantee that anything written on Wikipedia is true and accurate, so there is no official mark or anything that says an article is safe to use, say, in an academic/professional context. Before using any content on Wikipedia, always be sure to check that it is true by reading its citation. Best of luck,
Mz7 (
talk)
16:29, 2 June 2016 (UTC)Hey Mz7! I want some articles which needs to be edited. I don't know where to find them. I would like to have some choices from you so that I can be a part of Wikipedian-mates who tries to make the articles better. Please send me some names of articles which needs to be rectified. My specialty lies in all rectification work but especially in references or citation. Please and please and please and please. I am really getting bored and I need some work to do. Give me some names please!
-- Amy2563 ( talk) 17:30, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Why don't you answer to my questions? -- Amy2563 ( talk) 17:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
-- Amy2563 ( talk) 09:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
there is opening line of article Adriatic plate which I have impression that it might be wrong. But it might be also true. Where is the place to ask politely for reference? Talk page of this article? Obradow ( talk) 12:48, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
is it far nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of some one elses misgotten fortunes?
Hola all. I can find no reference to the word tive. Does anyone know a definition?
answers much appreciated. Thank you for your time and interest.
We journey on.
AStoNeMaSoN ( talk) 12:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I do have a suggestion. any ideas welcome. AStoNeMaSoN ( talk) 12:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments - but i am struggling to see how a story about the formation, the journey of a founder is any different to /info/en/?search=Samsung it talks about dates founded, the transition from engineering to products - the team, is the team and the point of the team is the experience. i can't tell a story without referencing the backgrounds - or it would be like "little red riding hood, went..." can't talk about the rest of the story? each reference is now amended to be from an external source. So please can someone help amend the story. there is no product or service for sale here. its factual about a transition into an entity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivertu ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
i recently submitted a page, i had it rejected due to references. i have since amended them and added more detail from external sources. is there a way to review it again or do i just re submit? ( Ivertu ( talk) 17:56, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I reviewed Draft:Apriva and declined it as not meeting corporate notability. I also noted that there had been a deletion discussion, and that it should not be accepted unless it was an improvement on the deleted article. Of course, I can’t see the deleted article without admin glasses. User:Shainar then asked me:
Hi Robert, Thanks so much for your feedback on the article I submitted on Apriva. Can you help me better understand what I can improve by answering the following questions? 1. Specifically, how can I better show the subject's notability? 2. What defines "significant coverage"? 3. Were there specific sources that aren't seen as reliable/independent, or weren't referenced properly? Basically, I'm trying to figure out if I can make little edits to get the article be approved or if the overall subject is not deemed worthy of inclusion at this time. Thanks!
I can’t be optimistic about an article that was previously deleted, and which I declined because most of the references were either to its own web site or were just press releases. Do other experienced editors care to comment? Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
User:Shainar asked me:
'Thank you! I noticed one of your comments was, "I can’t be optimistic about an article that was previously deleted, and which I declined because most of the references were either to its own web site or were just press releases." For what it's worth, I had no involvement in the creation or deletion of the previous article, and the one I submitted was a new version, not a re-write of the old version.'
I like hank the cowdog. a 5th episode will air 6/4/16. My files have gotten deleted. ` Triana2 ( talk) 02:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Having trouble getting specifics from reviewers on how this article is not written in a "neutral tone." /info/en/?search=Draft:Credible
There are no opinions expressed as facts in this article. There are no "seriously contested assertions" stated as facts. The article employs "nonjudgmental language" and it is written in a tone that "neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
There are no unsupported attributions, or adjectives ("peacock terms"). /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch#Puffery
The article includes references to "a range of independent, reliable, published sources" including Tech Crunch, Forbes, The Washington Post, U.S. News & World Report, CNBC, and Fortune. /info/en/?search=Draft:Credible#References
This is a legitimate article about a commercial entity, written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia editors are instructed that "a differentiation should be made between spam articles and legitimate articles about commercial entities." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Spam#Advertisements_masquerading_as_articles
There appears to be a double standard being applied to this post. Wikipedia editors routinely approve similar articles, including posts about companies that are in the same line of business -- CommonBond, SoFi, and Earnest. /info/en/?search=CommonBond /info/en/?search=SoFi /info/en/?search=Earnest_(company)
The reviewers who have rejected this article have provided no specific guidance on why this article is not neutral in tone. They appear to be making a subjective judgment call that Wikipedia users should have access to information about companies like CommonBond, SoFi and Earnest, but not the company that is the subject of this submission, Credible.
162.245.21.61 ( talk) 17:40, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Also, determining whether a claim is true or useful, particularly when few people know about the topic, often requires a more involved process to get the opinions of other editors. It's a good idea to raise objections on a talk page or at a relevant WikiProject. Discussing contentious claims helps editors to evaluate their accuracy and often leads to better sourcing and clearer phrasing." /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Lack_of_neutrality_as_an_excuse_to_delete 162.245.21.61 ( talk) 22:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
I have removed the references to websites that host press releases, and the reference to the YouTube video, as you sugggested. I have fixed the links to the Bloomberg and CNBC articles.
Here are my thoughts on some of your other suggestions.
References to company website. The references to the company website were not intended to establish notability, but to establish "utterly non-controversial facts" -- namely, the lenders who offer services through Credible.
I would like to keep the references to the Washington Post, Marketwatch, and Fortune because there is currently a national discussions going on about the difficulties millions face in repaying their student loan debt, and strategies for coping with that debt. Credible is helping inform that debate.
I have added a reference to an April 2016 NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt report featuring Credible, which explained how parents can refinance student loans they took out to help pay for their children's college at lower rates.
I have resubmitted the article.
162.245.21.61 ( talk) 16:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I would like to keep the references to the Washington Post, Marketwatch, and Fortune because there is currently a national discussions going on about the difficulties millions face in repaying their student loan debt, and strategies for coping with that debt. Credible is helping inform that debate.I have not seen the draft, but this sounds like a reason to possibly mention the company or cite its employees in an article about student debt, and not a reason to have an article dedicated to the company. Also, I think it should be said that while Wikipedia does offer many kinds of information, it is not a how-to guide, and it should not advocate for any kind of solution to any given problem.
Hi all
I'm trying to create a Bio page. It's my first time here. I was reviewed and declined because the refs were done wrong (my fault). They are corrected now by a very helpful wiki author. I'd like to add more refs now that I see how its done and also some images. The "edit button" on the article is gone. gone. There is only one on the "references" section.
Any ideas?
Thank you!
Jyprod ( talk) 07:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks both. Janni Younge is my wife and I am doing her bio page for her.
Oh dear I've been rejected again because I copied the basics from her website, hoping for a shortcut.
Jyprod ( talk) 13:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Ok - thanks. I can see how it would seem that way, but I am also someone who knows her career really well, having lived through it all. Her bio page should really exist, she is already referenced in another few articles. How can I get it done? Jyprod ( talk) 19:02, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for that suggestion Thnidu Jyprod ( talk) 07:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Larry - but I am not planning on writing about items that are 'private knowledge', it's more about that I'm someone able to connect the dots of the various published, citable sources on her.
Jyprod ( talk) 07:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
@ Jyprod: Since you are intimately familiar with her career and life, your best course may be to write and publish your own biography of her, without WIkipedia. That biography would then be a reliable source we could use for the article. — 67.14.236.50 ( talk) 04:31, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
In editing
Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories § Harassment by conspiracy theorists, I found that two refs in the second paragraph of the section were identical except for the access date. I put one of them into
{{Cite news}} format as <ref name=Inquisitr>
, but I couldn't figure out how to specify a different access date for the other one, which was now just <ref name=Inquisitr />
. I put it into an HTML comment just after the ref, but how should it be done? Please
{{ping}} me in replying. --
Thnidu (
talk)
04:25, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I reviewed Draft: Salvador Partners twice, and declined it both times on grounds that it was promotional in language. It had been declined once before for notability reasons. User:Ivertu then posted to my talk page:
Hi, i believe i have been able to amend the wording as per your comments - my apologies, i have tried to replicate the style of submission from the stories from well known enties such as Samsung. i re read after your comments and, i hope made all of the relevant changes necessary. Kind Regards Lisa
It doesn’t appear to me that Ivertu has addressed my comments before resubmitting. The draft is still mostly about the management team and not about how the company is notable. I am not declining the submission a third time because I am asking for advice here. Can some other experienced editor please review and comment? Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Suppose i do-not know well about a topic... so i think i should not create a new page on that... but i think it should be on wikipedia. Then how could i request for that article to the experts?
these are my 3 questions on editing today. thanks. RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 08:33, 4 June 2016 (UTC) Copied and pasted the conversation in my talk page. Thanks.
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 07:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Could I upload image taken from a public museum? Would it hamper the copyright? ( And what for a zoological garden,or a botanical etc )?
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 07:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
RIT RAJARSHI ( talk) 08:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC) @ Cullen328: Thanks for your appreciation to the questions.
My question is how could I create articles without speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by SabirTech ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, I understand that sock puppetry should be taken very seriously and abide by WP:SOCK#LEGIT reasons if you want an alternate account. As such I want to start up an alternate account for the purpose of humorous userpage/security, just in case I'm asking this in advance if those reasons I've stated are ok to use an alternate account. Also can you have a completely different username rather than User (alt) or User (public) as long as you acknowledge that it is the alternate account of said user? Any answer will be great! Thank you in advance! Adog104 Talk to me 23:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I recently created an entry on the author of a viral blog from 2015, which was denied. Should I change my approach to the blog itself since that is the cultural reference people are more familiar with? SaladDayz ( talk) 17:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
I just can't figure out how to insert a dead link to an article that is still on the same external site but not the same url. The page in question is /info/en/?search=Obesity_in_the_Pacific and the link I want to adjust is one of the reference section (South Pacific Leads the World in Obesity).
When I want to edit I see this:
Tried to figure it out by myself but couldn't and need some help.
Thanks!
Semelius Semelius ( talk) 12:38, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I don't want to insert a dead link but fix it. The link points to a page that no longer exists because they moved the article to another page/url. So the article is still on their site but with another url. I would like to replace the dead url with the good one. Semelius ( talk) 15:06, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, just a heads up that the AfC pending submissions has been getting a bit backlogged the last couple of weeks after being kept under control for quite a while by the sterling effort of others (and a tiny bit of input from myself). So if any experienced editors who do not check AFC normally but have the experience could help knock a couple off the 2,854 currently pending that would be great. Cheers KylieTastic ( talk) 18:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm trying to get /info/en/?search=Template:Lydia_Canaan to look and function like /info/en/?search=Template:Paul_McCartney_main but not only is the template info not visible on the Lydia Canaan page (just the header, but not the info as shown on template page itself), the header is also a violet color rather than the #F7E98E that the example I'm working with appears as (and it's important because want it to match the #F7E98E of the info box and other charts and tables). Can someone please help? Thank you in advance! WikiEditorial101 ( talk) 22:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
background
field; each gives the navbox a different colour. I've changed it from singer_songwriter
to solo_singer
, which should return the desired colour. Thanks!
/wiae
/tlk 03:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC
I am writing this as I feel this issue is important. I do not spend time on wiki looking for chat areas and such, which is why I am not familiar with all the codes and such that is used and I do not know where the appropriate place is to post this. Most of my time is spent doing research and writing articles. In saying this, I recently posted out a new article, in no time I was, in my opinion bullied by an editor or admin whichever they are and this has happened before to me by the same person. I had six citations and was told I did not have enough and the article was not written the way they felt it should be. I am a ‘double’ doctorate degree researcher, I am sought after to do research and write for encyclopedia’s and universities. I do my work to the best of my ability, in many cases once I have the article posted I then go back and start re-editing, writing and changing to get it how it should be or better done if need be. When I write an article it will be finished from start to finish including the image. One article would take me 10 months to locate the photographer. On three articles I am trying to fix now, that I am not the creator of, I have had to contact Worldcat identifier as the information is so messed up it is not even funny. Worldcat has been fantastic in working with me to get these errors corrected. On one of those articles facebook has linked the wiki account to a facebook account to a band with the same name, I am now attempting to get facebook to fix that error. I am curious as to why anyone would post an article they did not do all the work for? I do not understand, why it would be expected someone else to come along and do the work? I will say I am frustrated at editors I have found are doing this that post out articles (I am now doing the research for two started by the same person) and they do not complete the article or any of the research? Please explain this to me? Most of these articles come onto the delete list or serious issues list and it is expected someone else clean it up and do the work? Why is this? All over wiki I have seen comments of how to handle harassment, I am unsure this is harassment I feel its bullying. Then there are those that are saying they are being abused, in most cases of human nature if it is dished out you will receive it in kind. Maybe its time everyone on wiki etc,… start with a different approach and ask an editor of an article ‘why they did such’ instead of jumping all over them or having it come across this way. I feel wiki has reached the point that they are going to have to consider outside people not being allowed to work on articles. It’s going to have to be the actual people that join wiki and do the research and it’s time articles are locked (all) of them so they cannot be tampered with after completion. This is the way it is in any other encyclopedia I have worked on, outside people are not permitted to touch let alone alter information in articles. I have reached my limit, once I fix up these two last articles …. I am gone from wiki, that’s it for me. T Heart ( talk) 15:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
My article on Dwight Russel Micnhimer has been slated for speedy deletion citing that information already exists on wikipedia. but when i click on the existing information, it leads me to the article i have posted. Please help Godessofsmallthings ( talk) 08:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)