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-- Rjecina ( talk) 19:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC) reply
user:72.75.18.173 and user:72.75.5.121 are banned puppets of user:Velebit aka user:Purger. It is possible to see that only edits of this 2 accounts are about Croatia WWII, Neo-nazism in Croatia and who is and who is not Croat. [1] [ [2] .If we look IP range and article edits user:72.75.24.245 is 100 % puppet of this users [3]
Connection between user:72.75.24.245 and user:J. A. Comment are words of user:72.75.24.245. He is claiming again and again that checkuser has rejected my accusations [4] [5] [6] [7]. There is only 1 small problem. There has never been checkuser report about user:72.75.24.245, but only report for user:J. A. Comment .Maybe I am making mistakes but with this statements user:72.75.24.245 is declaring that he is user:J. A. Comment. Final checkuser report is here but because it has not been very clear there has been demand for explanation which is very clear:J.A.Comment IP is few minuts away from other banned IP [8]. Now we can say that J.A.Comment is connected with banned IP and user:72.75.24.245 is calling his IP check that he is cleared. This other banned IP near which J.A.Comment is coming on internet are: user:71.252.83.230 and user:71.252.101.51.
This user is having very great knowledge of how wikipedia work. Like I have been saying earlier J.A.Comment is knowing rule about 10 edits and semi-protection so his 10th edit [9]. has been demand for lowering protection level from full to semi [10] so that he can edit.
On other side user:72.75.24.245 has started discussion about Wikipedia talk:Verifiability [11]
I do not know new users which are having so great wikipedia knowledge to know semi-protection rule or which are starting discussion about Verifiability. Maybe administrators are knowing this sort of new but for me is hard to believe in that.
users 66.217.132.152, 66.217.131.125 and Brzica milos etc are on this list because only edits of this 2 has been revert in support of user:72.75.24.245 . Name of this last "user" is combination of names of 2 Croatian WWII criminals Ljubo Miloš and Petar Brzica.
Users 71.252.102.163, 71.252.83.33 and 71.252.101.67 are on this list because they have edited only Croatian WWII articles like user:72.75.24.245 and user:J. A. Comment and they are from another confirmed user:Velebit IP range (see User:71.252.83.230 and User talk:71.252.101.51)
It is time for me to end this, and I will say must important things with small number of questions because decision is very simple.
"yes this IP is a sockpuppet"
"no, this IP is not a sockpuppet"
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Some facts. 72.75.24.245 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and the 71.252 addresses all, according to Whois, are IP addresses from Verizon in or near Reston, VA. The 66.217 addresses resolve to New York. The previous Checkuser request said that J. A. Comment is not linked to the Reston, VA addresses but resolves to the same region. I want to point out that the information in Whois about the 71.X.X.X addresses say that the ENTIRE range 71.0.0.0 - 71.255.255.255 all belong to Verizon; this suggests to me that Reston, VA is just the address of Verizon itself, not of the local ISP router near the user. Mangojuicetalk 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
is clear that
'POV-pushing' Rjecina's false accusations exposed
I fixed the Biography paragraph based on strong scholar references - Introduction by William H. McNel, Translator's Foreword by Lovett F. Edwards - both from Bridge on the Drina by Ivo Andric, Presentation Speech (at 1961 Nobel Prize awarding ceremony) by Anders Österling, and the biography of Andric written by Milan Bogdanovic. So, all four people were Andric's close friends: Edwards - Andric's book translator and close friend from the times when Andric was a diplomat in London, McNeil - a world-renown historian of the 19th and 20eth century European history and professor at the Chicago University and a man who was Andric's friend sharing interest with him in the Balkans history of the 19th and 20eth centuries, Österling - Permanent Secretary of the Swedish Academy, Bogdanovic - writer and close friend of Andric - see
[39] My full explanation of this improvement was regularly removed from the talk page by Rjecina [40], [41], [42]
Contrary to valid and scholar references I've used - Rjecina is pushing links claiming baselesly that Andric' parents were Croats. Stressing that the same information comes from New York Times is pointless - the NYT does not treasure Andric's biographical data nor it references any valid document as its primary source. The same case is with other Rjecina's 'references'.
I and other three editors were providing valid scholar references and citations. Rjecina removed many times these references or citations - as he does it now - claiming inacurracy and new citations - not supporting these claims by any valid knowledge. On the talk pages one of editors gave list of books supporting text - which Rjecina simply ridiculled claiming nonsense: 'Ulmost all this books are speaking that Srbosjek knife has been used by Chetnik forces to kill Serb' see [43]. Whoever had ever these books in hands can testify that Rjecina's comment is nonsense.
I removed two primitive disqualifications of this great book - telling absolutely nothing about the book content. Bear in mind that this book can be found in the world-renown unversities and academic libraries, referenced and quoted hundreds and hundreds times. This way I was defending Wikipedia's credibility and accuracy
Bottom line - this Rjecina acts against the very letter of Wikipedia. Needles to say that he was warned by many editors and administrators already against this uncivil behavior and false accusations. Stop him in damaging further Wikipedia!-- 72.75.24.245 ( talk) 18:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC) reply
I demand ultimate checkuser on all listed above IPs and user accounts. I see that this slandering campaign goes on and on.-- J. A. Comment ( talk) 21:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC) reply
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-- Rjecina ( talk) 19:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC) reply
user:72.75.18.173 and user:72.75.5.121 are banned puppets of user:Velebit aka user:Purger. It is possible to see that only edits of this 2 accounts are about Croatia WWII, Neo-nazism in Croatia and who is and who is not Croat. [1] [ [2] .If we look IP range and article edits user:72.75.24.245 is 100 % puppet of this users [3]
Connection between user:72.75.24.245 and user:J. A. Comment are words of user:72.75.24.245. He is claiming again and again that checkuser has rejected my accusations [4] [5] [6] [7]. There is only 1 small problem. There has never been checkuser report about user:72.75.24.245, but only report for user:J. A. Comment .Maybe I am making mistakes but with this statements user:72.75.24.245 is declaring that he is user:J. A. Comment. Final checkuser report is here but because it has not been very clear there has been demand for explanation which is very clear:J.A.Comment IP is few minuts away from other banned IP [8]. Now we can say that J.A.Comment is connected with banned IP and user:72.75.24.245 is calling his IP check that he is cleared. This other banned IP near which J.A.Comment is coming on internet are: user:71.252.83.230 and user:71.252.101.51.
This user is having very great knowledge of how wikipedia work. Like I have been saying earlier J.A.Comment is knowing rule about 10 edits and semi-protection so his 10th edit [9]. has been demand for lowering protection level from full to semi [10] so that he can edit.
On other side user:72.75.24.245 has started discussion about Wikipedia talk:Verifiability [11]
I do not know new users which are having so great wikipedia knowledge to know semi-protection rule or which are starting discussion about Verifiability. Maybe administrators are knowing this sort of new but for me is hard to believe in that.
users 66.217.132.152, 66.217.131.125 and Brzica milos etc are on this list because only edits of this 2 has been revert in support of user:72.75.24.245 . Name of this last "user" is combination of names of 2 Croatian WWII criminals Ljubo Miloš and Petar Brzica.
Users 71.252.102.163, 71.252.83.33 and 71.252.101.67 are on this list because they have edited only Croatian WWII articles like user:72.75.24.245 and user:J. A. Comment and they are from another confirmed user:Velebit IP range (see User:71.252.83.230 and User talk:71.252.101.51)
It is time for me to end this, and I will say must important things with small number of questions because decision is very simple.
"yes this IP is a sockpuppet"
"no, this IP is not a sockpuppet"
Comments
From the above
Some facts. 72.75.24.245 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and the 71.252 addresses all, according to Whois, are IP addresses from Verizon in or near Reston, VA. The 66.217 addresses resolve to New York. The previous Checkuser request said that J. A. Comment is not linked to the Reston, VA addresses but resolves to the same region. I want to point out that the information in Whois about the 71.X.X.X addresses say that the ENTIRE range 71.0.0.0 - 71.255.255.255 all belong to Verizon; this suggests to me that Reston, VA is just the address of Verizon itself, not of the local ISP router near the user. Mangojuicetalk 17:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
is clear that
'POV-pushing' Rjecina's false accusations exposed
I fixed the Biography paragraph based on strong scholar references - Introduction by William H. McNel, Translator's Foreword by Lovett F. Edwards - both from Bridge on the Drina by Ivo Andric, Presentation Speech (at 1961 Nobel Prize awarding ceremony) by Anders Österling, and the biography of Andric written by Milan Bogdanovic. So, all four people were Andric's close friends: Edwards - Andric's book translator and close friend from the times when Andric was a diplomat in London, McNeil - a world-renown historian of the 19th and 20eth century European history and professor at the Chicago University and a man who was Andric's friend sharing interest with him in the Balkans history of the 19th and 20eth centuries, Österling - Permanent Secretary of the Swedish Academy, Bogdanovic - writer and close friend of Andric - see
[39] My full explanation of this improvement was regularly removed from the talk page by Rjecina [40], [41], [42]
Contrary to valid and scholar references I've used - Rjecina is pushing links claiming baselesly that Andric' parents were Croats. Stressing that the same information comes from New York Times is pointless - the NYT does not treasure Andric's biographical data nor it references any valid document as its primary source. The same case is with other Rjecina's 'references'.
I and other three editors were providing valid scholar references and citations. Rjecina removed many times these references or citations - as he does it now - claiming inacurracy and new citations - not supporting these claims by any valid knowledge. On the talk pages one of editors gave list of books supporting text - which Rjecina simply ridiculled claiming nonsense: 'Ulmost all this books are speaking that Srbosjek knife has been used by Chetnik forces to kill Serb' see [43]. Whoever had ever these books in hands can testify that Rjecina's comment is nonsense.
I removed two primitive disqualifications of this great book - telling absolutely nothing about the book content. Bear in mind that this book can be found in the world-renown unversities and academic libraries, referenced and quoted hundreds and hundreds times. This way I was defending Wikipedia's credibility and accuracy
Bottom line - this Rjecina acts against the very letter of Wikipedia. Needles to say that he was warned by many editors and administrators already against this uncivil behavior and false accusations. Stop him in damaging further Wikipedia!-- 72.75.24.245 ( talk) 18:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC) reply
I demand ultimate checkuser on all listed above IPs and user accounts. I see that this slandering campaign goes on and on.-- J. A. Comment ( talk) 21:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC) reply