Ultimateuserxx
- Ultimateuserxx ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
26 July 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Jasmir54 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Resubmitting Draft:Amos Genish which was heavily contributed by previous blocked sock Drpepperzz. Jasmir54 also had good hand black hand behavior on Communion and Liberation as well as claiming he joined wikipedia many years ago. Matthew_hk t c 19:22, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The master is 
Stale. CU declined.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 20:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
22 August 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Lawtheagoraphobic ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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After user Jasmir54 was banned for vandalism and avoiding even an attempt to be constructive on the Communion and Liberation page, user Lawtheagoraphobic appeared this month. The user is restoring the Jasmir54 page and has the very same style in everything he does:
This are the first changes made by the user: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=854236983&oldid=854225162 Compare them with this version of Jasmir54 (notice how even the numbers are the same, for instance the 100 million in the infobox which, as I pointed out with user Jasmir54 in the now archived talk page, is not present in the cited article as reference. So we get the same number, from the same reference...but the number is not present in the reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=849739062 And this older version of Jasmir54, where there is a similar error to the one on the current page: the foundation date is correct in the infobox: 1954 but the first paragraph reads "founded in 1969" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=848724522 The same error, with the same numbers, is present in the previous version and in the current one.
Jasmir54 initially acted (I think) through an IP, and in fact here https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=846514316 is a version where the first paragraph of the history in 1969 is the same as the one on the current page.
The user has the same attitude of utterly ignoring non-agreeing comments or bashing them as nonsense. See for instance the "disputed tag" paragraph /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation This is similar to how Jasmir54 ignored all comments which disagreed with him: /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation/Archive_1 (under NPV accusations, for instance.)
I pointed out to the user repeatedly that his behaviour is not correct, especially removing the disputed/citation tags without proper explanations (see the talk page). I also left a message in the teahouse, everything was ignored.
He deleted from his talk page my message (also "vandalism" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Lawtheagoraphobic&diff=856095920&oldid=856074314 ) and did not address my questions properly anywhere.
In the talk page I pointed out he should read archive pages as many problems with the current status of the page are the same as with the old one ( here are those comments /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation/Archive_2 I spent a lot of days last month writing those points out all over wiki and some of them are blatantly clear, so I won't repeat). He completely ignored.
Finally he has already infringed the 3 time revert rule, removing the "disputed tag" and another small change multiple times, always blasting everything as "nonsense" etc. and never addressing what I point out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856098990&oldid=856096848 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856082688&oldid=856068946 (me adding two tags and changing the first paragraph) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856068946&oldid=856063296 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856058080&oldid=856054377 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism)
I am sorry to resort again to the admins, but by the interactions of today alone I am quite convinced Jasmir54 (and Ultimateuserxx his supposed socket master) and Lawtheagoraphobic are really the same person, with the same completely non-collaborative and disruptive attitude. GioA90 ( talk) 22:41, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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- I don't have access to the full css source code, but the new alleged account have full knowledge of wikitext, as well as the edit summary of User:Lawtheagoraphobic/common.css and User:Jasmir54/common.css are the same, which seem not a coincidence. Matthew_hk t c 06:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Compare Special:Diff/850511692 and Special:Diff/854236983 for adding a book source without a page number. Matthew_hk t c 07:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- request CU to compare Lawtheagoraphobic and Jasmir54. Matthew_hk t c 08:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
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Lawtheagoraphobic is very
Likely
Jasmir54. They appear to be using a program that generates random UAs, likely in an failed attempt to foil checkuser, but the rest of the data matches. The behavioural overlaps and obvious sock tells are, well, obvious.--
Jezebel's Ponyo
bons mots 22:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC) - Tagged and closing. GAB gab 22:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Ultimateuserxx
- Ultimateuserxx ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
26 July 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Jasmir54 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
Resubmitting Draft:Amos Genish which was heavily contributed by previous blocked sock Drpepperzz. Jasmir54 also had good hand black hand behavior on Communion and Liberation as well as claiming he joined wikipedia many years ago. Matthew_hk t c 19:22, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The master is Stale. CU declined.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 20:46, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
22 August 2018
Suspected sockpuppets
- Lawtheagoraphobic ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
After user Jasmir54 was banned for vandalism and avoiding even an attempt to be constructive on the Communion and Liberation page, user Lawtheagoraphobic appeared this month. The user is restoring the Jasmir54 page and has the very same style in everything he does:
This are the first changes made by the user: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=854236983&oldid=854225162 Compare them with this version of Jasmir54 (notice how even the numbers are the same, for instance the 100 million in the infobox which, as I pointed out with user Jasmir54 in the now archived talk page, is not present in the cited article as reference. So we get the same number, from the same reference...but the number is not present in the reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=849739062 And this older version of Jasmir54, where there is a similar error to the one on the current page: the foundation date is correct in the infobox: 1954 but the first paragraph reads "founded in 1969" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=848724522 The same error, with the same numbers, is present in the previous version and in the current one.
Jasmir54 initially acted (I think) through an IP, and in fact here https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&oldid=846514316 is a version where the first paragraph of the history in 1969 is the same as the one on the current page.
The user has the same attitude of utterly ignoring non-agreeing comments or bashing them as nonsense. See for instance the "disputed tag" paragraph /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation This is similar to how Jasmir54 ignored all comments which disagreed with him: /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation/Archive_1 (under NPV accusations, for instance.)
I pointed out to the user repeatedly that his behaviour is not correct, especially removing the disputed/citation tags without proper explanations (see the talk page). I also left a message in the teahouse, everything was ignored.
He deleted from his talk page my message (also "vandalism" https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Lawtheagoraphobic&diff=856095920&oldid=856074314 ) and did not address my questions properly anywhere.
In the talk page I pointed out he should read archive pages as many problems with the current status of the page are the same as with the old one ( here are those comments /info/en/?search=Talk:Communion_and_Liberation/Archive_2 I spent a lot of days last month writing those points out all over wiki and some of them are blatantly clear, so I won't repeat). He completely ignored.
Finally he has already infringed the 3 time revert rule, removing the "disputed tag" and another small change multiple times, always blasting everything as "nonsense" etc. and never addressing what I point out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856098990&oldid=856096848 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856082688&oldid=856068946 (me adding two tags and changing the first paragraph) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856068946&oldid=856063296 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Communion_and_Liberation&diff=856058080&oldid=856054377 (he removing tag, calling it vandalism)
I am sorry to resort again to the admins, but by the interactions of today alone I am quite convinced Jasmir54 (and Ultimateuserxx his supposed socket master) and Lawtheagoraphobic are really the same person, with the same completely non-collaborative and disruptive attitude. GioA90 ( talk) 22:41, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- I don't have access to the full css source code, but the new alleged account have full knowledge of wikitext, as well as the edit summary of User:Lawtheagoraphobic/common.css and User:Jasmir54/common.css are the same, which seem not a coincidence. Matthew_hk t c 06:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Compare Special:Diff/850511692 and Special:Diff/854236983 for adding a book source without a page number. Matthew_hk t c 07:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
- request CU to compare Lawtheagoraphobic and Jasmir54. Matthew_hk t c 08:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
-
Lawtheagoraphobic is very
Likely
Jasmir54. They appear to be using a program that generates random UAs, likely in an failed attempt to foil checkuser, but the rest of the data matches. The behavioural overlaps and obvious sock tells are, well, obvious.--
Jezebel's Ponyo
bons mots 22:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Tagged and closing. GAB gab 22:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)