All five accounts have already been tied to each other via a CheckUser on Meta. All five accounts have been recently and simultaneously active here on English Wikipedia, sometimes editing the same pages within a few minutes of each other (e.g., [1] and [2], or [3] and [4]). At least two of the accounts have also received complaints about pushing anti-Semitic POVs (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal for topic ban of AliAkar on Jews and Judaism and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Munif Ashmar) and most of them have been posting non-free text in violation of its copyright (see Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations#Srahmadi).
I think another CheckUser run is in order as I suspect there are other sockpuppets currently operating, including the following:
— Psychonaut ( talk) 11:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
On Commons, another account— Saeegh—was blocked as a sockpuppet of AliAkar [5]; an account with that same name is currently active on en.Wikipedia:
— BlueMoonset ( talk) 18:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC) (reformatted: 18:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC))
Charm4Fasl is a relatively new editor (first edit on 2/12/15, only 58 edits total. Yet this editor is editing at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Srahmadi. [6]. CCI is a pretty obscure, technical part of the Wiki, and is an unlikely place for newcomers to land. Looking at X!'s edit counter, Char4Fasl has edited several pages where Srahmadi or sock puppets either created or made very substantial contributions. These include: Ahmad Motevaselian [7], List of Iranian commanders in the Iran–Iraq War [8], Hosein Alam-alhoda [9], Hamid Bakeri [10]. Given that the subject of a CCI is not welcome to evaluate the copyright status of the articles listed in the CCI, using a sock puppet account to do so would constitute an abusive use of multiple accounts. GabrielF ( talk) 14:05, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention. I think there is sufficient evidence presented by GabrielF to justify a CU. In addition, the puppet's user page is similar to other sock user pages, and the puppet has also edited Commons and the Iranian wikipedia, among others, also similar to the master and other puppets.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 19:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
I think there's a link between new user User:Soltan67, User:Charm4Fasl (who CU concluded as a possible sock puppet, see above) and User:Srahmadi. Soltan67 is a new user with an editing history that overlaps Charm4Fasl. Both edited Talk:Ahmad Motevaselian (and made similar comments. Both edited Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Srahmadi. CCI is an obscure, specialized area of the wiki, and unlikely to be discovered by a new user. Soltan67 and Charm4Fasl have three user boxes is common. My concern here is that Srahmadi is attempting to edit his own CCI page, which would be inappropriate. GabrielF ( talk) 19:15, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
I agree with User:GabrielF's assessment. New users do not start processing CCIs on their first day. Soltan67's only edit to that page was to mark one of the alleged sockmaster's articles as non-infringing, even though the grounds for doing so were spurious. Besides this the editing interests (modern Iranian history) and writing style (generally poor English) match. CU could clinch the identification but the behavioural evidence is already strong. — Psychonaut ( talk) 18:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Bbb23: Given the long backlog of suspected copyvios to process, it's best to presumptively delete all the sockpuppet's new article creations (or at least, those which haven't yet attracted major edits from other editors) under CSD-G5. Any articles that remain can be added to the CCI. — Psychonaut ( talk) 07:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
In progress. I'm working on this.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 20:58, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Rastegarfar.mo is solely engaged in the same area as Srahmadi, i.e. promotion of Iran's Islamist rule, [12] exhibits the same self-entitled attitude when warned about their conduct, [13] creates large numbers of tenuous redirects, [14] and generally speaks the same broken English. Their account was created about a week after Srahmadi's latest confirmed sock was blocked. Anders Feder ( talk) 14:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The symptoms are similar for Papeli44. 1) His account was created two days after Srahmadi's last confirmed sock was blocked. 2) Like the sock AliAkar, he has created several articles or drafts about Iranian "Holy Defense" books and films. One of the titles Papeli44 has created a draft for [15], "Journey to Heading 270 Degrees", is in fact identical to one AliAkar had created a draft for [16]. 3) Just a month after his account was created, he somehow happened upon a deletion request I had filed for an image AliAkar had added to the Ali Khamenei article. 4) In an AfD yesterday, he wrote in a reply to me: "I think you have more problem with topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [17]; it is unclear why a month-old user would assume I "have more problem with topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", when all I've done on the AfD was comment about what WP:PEACOCK is. The accusation also sounds similar to one AliAkar made against me on another AfD: "You have personal problem with Iran and just sentence about this country and you say your idea and this is not public idea about a country." [18]-- Anders Feder ( talk) 07:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Additionally, this looks like a duck. Quack quack.-- Anders Feder ( talk) 13:49, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Seems quite plausible based on behavioural evidence. I also note that Sayyed Ibn Tawus, one of the articles edited by User:Papeli44, was recently created by User:Mahdisoldier, a previously suspected sockpuppet of User:Srahmadi that has suddenly resumed activity. — Psychonaut ( talk) 08:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Anders Feder: Hello! I am Rastegarfar.mo talking with you! Are you well? How is going every thing with you these days? I want to ask a very important question. Why you think that I am Papeli44? Do you think anyone who lives in Iran and edits about Islamic topics, are the same person as you think?!?! How can I confirm that I am another person not Papeli44?! Oh... common! It's not a logical reason to accuse others by saying sock puppet.
Like Srahamdi and his socks, this is a single-purpose account devoted to writing POV-pushing articles about topics related to the Iranian revolution. The account writes with the same broken English as Srahamdi and also copies or closely paraphrases sources (see e.g. Muhammad Reza Saeedi). Like the previous accounts [19] [20], it has also created an article about the book Journey to Heading 270 Degrees. Psychonaut ( talk) 15:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
I agree, and would add Rahpouyan110 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) for all the same reasons. See also their interactions. Their first talk page interaction ever seems implausible and indicative of at least meat puppetry.-- Anders Feder ( talk) 15:48, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
I have been following Munifi3nt's edits and have been correcting them, I see here that he is probably a sock puppet. I would like to make it clear that, if and when you track my edits, I am not a sock puppet and i can independently justify and verify and edits on my behalf. Rhumidian ( talk) 18:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
All edits are to articles created by or recently edited by Srahmadi's other sockpuppets, and have inserted links to Journey to Heading 270 Degrees, an article just created by one of the sockpuppets. Psychonaut ( talk) 15:30, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
All probably related:
-- Anders Feder ( talk) 20:16, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Filing for posterity. Based on a tip from faWiki. Saff V. is definitely a sock, Badoomtalkh is likely. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:12, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
FYI: Homiho, Toluehagh school, and تیرتاوافن were also blocked as socks of Srahmadi, but these accounts aren't listed in the Shrahmadi SPI.
Ghazaalch recreates draft by Homiho (a Srahmadi sockpuppet) with numerous similarities:
User:Ghazaalch's "Global Arrogance" (2021 article / older version)
User:Homiho's "Global Arrogance" (2016 draft)
There is also this old SPI already connecting Ghazaalch to the Srahmadi sockfarm (via Saff V., who at the time had not yet been identified as a sock of Srahmadi). Ghazaalch's block was overturned mainly per this post saying that "Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language [than Saff V.]." But, upon closer inspection, Ghazaalch usually writes with the same grasp on English language as Saff V. (on the poorer side); yet Ghazaalch has made a few edits that are very articulate. These few articulate edits were likely written by someone else and were used to evade the last SPI (unless Ghazaalch just writes in both, poor and articulate English):
These socks have been evading detection for over a decade, so behavior may be the most substantial kind of evidence. I have sent a private email to RoySmith with further evidence. ParadaJulio ( talk) 09:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
All five accounts have already been tied to each other via a CheckUser on Meta. All five accounts have been recently and simultaneously active here on English Wikipedia, sometimes editing the same pages within a few minutes of each other (e.g., [1] and [2], or [3] and [4]). At least two of the accounts have also received complaints about pushing anti-Semitic POVs (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal for topic ban of AliAkar on Jews and Judaism and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Munif Ashmar) and most of them have been posting non-free text in violation of its copyright (see Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations#Srahmadi).
I think another CheckUser run is in order as I suspect there are other sockpuppets currently operating, including the following:
— Psychonaut ( talk) 11:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
On Commons, another account— Saeegh—was blocked as a sockpuppet of AliAkar [5]; an account with that same name is currently active on en.Wikipedia:
— BlueMoonset ( talk) 18:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC) (reformatted: 18:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC))
Charm4Fasl is a relatively new editor (first edit on 2/12/15, only 58 edits total. Yet this editor is editing at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Srahmadi. [6]. CCI is a pretty obscure, technical part of the Wiki, and is an unlikely place for newcomers to land. Looking at X!'s edit counter, Char4Fasl has edited several pages where Srahmadi or sock puppets either created or made very substantial contributions. These include: Ahmad Motevaselian [7], List of Iranian commanders in the Iran–Iraq War [8], Hosein Alam-alhoda [9], Hamid Bakeri [10]. Given that the subject of a CCI is not welcome to evaluate the copyright status of the articles listed in the CCI, using a sock puppet account to do so would constitute an abusive use of multiple accounts. GabrielF ( talk) 14:05, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Self-endorsed by clerk for checkuser attention. I think there is sufficient evidence presented by GabrielF to justify a CU. In addition, the puppet's user page is similar to other sock user pages, and the puppet has also edited Commons and the Iranian wikipedia, among others, also similar to the master and other puppets.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 19:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
I think there's a link between new user User:Soltan67, User:Charm4Fasl (who CU concluded as a possible sock puppet, see above) and User:Srahmadi. Soltan67 is a new user with an editing history that overlaps Charm4Fasl. Both edited Talk:Ahmad Motevaselian (and made similar comments. Both edited Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Srahmadi. CCI is an obscure, specialized area of the wiki, and unlikely to be discovered by a new user. Soltan67 and Charm4Fasl have three user boxes is common. My concern here is that Srahmadi is attempting to edit his own CCI page, which would be inappropriate. GabrielF ( talk) 19:15, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
I agree with User:GabrielF's assessment. New users do not start processing CCIs on their first day. Soltan67's only edit to that page was to mark one of the alleged sockmaster's articles as non-infringing, even though the grounds for doing so were spurious. Besides this the editing interests (modern Iranian history) and writing style (generally poor English) match. CU could clinch the identification but the behavioural evidence is already strong. — Psychonaut ( talk) 18:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Bbb23: Given the long backlog of suspected copyvios to process, it's best to presumptively delete all the sockpuppet's new article creations (or at least, those which haven't yet attracted major edits from other editors) under CSD-G5. Any articles that remain can be added to the CCI. — Psychonaut ( talk) 07:24, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
In progress. I'm working on this.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 20:58, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Rastegarfar.mo is solely engaged in the same area as Srahmadi, i.e. promotion of Iran's Islamist rule, [12] exhibits the same self-entitled attitude when warned about their conduct, [13] creates large numbers of tenuous redirects, [14] and generally speaks the same broken English. Their account was created about a week after Srahmadi's latest confirmed sock was blocked. Anders Feder ( talk) 14:43, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
The symptoms are similar for Papeli44. 1) His account was created two days after Srahmadi's last confirmed sock was blocked. 2) Like the sock AliAkar, he has created several articles or drafts about Iranian "Holy Defense" books and films. One of the titles Papeli44 has created a draft for [15], "Journey to Heading 270 Degrees", is in fact identical to one AliAkar had created a draft for [16]. 3) Just a month after his account was created, he somehow happened upon a deletion request I had filed for an image AliAkar had added to the Ali Khamenei article. 4) In an AfD yesterday, he wrote in a reply to me: "I think you have more problem with topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" [17]; it is unclear why a month-old user would assume I "have more problem with topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", when all I've done on the AfD was comment about what WP:PEACOCK is. The accusation also sounds similar to one AliAkar made against me on another AfD: "You have personal problem with Iran and just sentence about this country and you say your idea and this is not public idea about a country." [18]-- Anders Feder ( talk) 07:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Additionally, this looks like a duck. Quack quack.-- Anders Feder ( talk) 13:49, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Seems quite plausible based on behavioural evidence. I also note that Sayyed Ibn Tawus, one of the articles edited by User:Papeli44, was recently created by User:Mahdisoldier, a previously suspected sockpuppet of User:Srahmadi that has suddenly resumed activity. — Psychonaut ( talk) 08:15, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Anders Feder: Hello! I am Rastegarfar.mo talking with you! Are you well? How is going every thing with you these days? I want to ask a very important question. Why you think that I am Papeli44? Do you think anyone who lives in Iran and edits about Islamic topics, are the same person as you think?!?! How can I confirm that I am another person not Papeli44?! Oh... common! It's not a logical reason to accuse others by saying sock puppet.
Like Srahamdi and his socks, this is a single-purpose account devoted to writing POV-pushing articles about topics related to the Iranian revolution. The account writes with the same broken English as Srahamdi and also copies or closely paraphrases sources (see e.g. Muhammad Reza Saeedi). Like the previous accounts [19] [20], it has also created an article about the book Journey to Heading 270 Degrees. Psychonaut ( talk) 15:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
I agree, and would add Rahpouyan110 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) for all the same reasons. See also their interactions. Their first talk page interaction ever seems implausible and indicative of at least meat puppetry.-- Anders Feder ( talk) 15:48, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
I have been following Munifi3nt's edits and have been correcting them, I see here that he is probably a sock puppet. I would like to make it clear that, if and when you track my edits, I am not a sock puppet and i can independently justify and verify and edits on my behalf. Rhumidian ( talk) 18:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
All edits are to articles created by or recently edited by Srahmadi's other sockpuppets, and have inserted links to Journey to Heading 270 Degrees, an article just created by one of the sockpuppets. Psychonaut ( talk) 15:30, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
Defending yourself against claims.
All probably related:
-- Anders Feder ( talk) 20:16, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Filing for posterity. Based on a tip from faWiki. Saff V. is definitely a sock, Badoomtalkh is likely. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 19:12, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
FYI: Homiho, Toluehagh school, and تیرتاوافن were also blocked as socks of Srahmadi, but these accounts aren't listed in the Shrahmadi SPI.
Ghazaalch recreates draft by Homiho (a Srahmadi sockpuppet) with numerous similarities:
User:Ghazaalch's "Global Arrogance" (2021 article / older version)
User:Homiho's "Global Arrogance" (2016 draft)
There is also this old SPI already connecting Ghazaalch to the Srahmadi sockfarm (via Saff V., who at the time had not yet been identified as a sock of Srahmadi). Ghazaalch's block was overturned mainly per this post saying that "Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language [than Saff V.]." But, upon closer inspection, Ghazaalch usually writes with the same grasp on English language as Saff V. (on the poorer side); yet Ghazaalch has made a few edits that are very articulate. These few articulate edits were likely written by someone else and were used to evade the last SPI (unless Ghazaalch just writes in both, poor and articulate English):
These socks have been evading detection for over a decade, so behavior may be the most substantial kind of evidence. I have sent a private email to RoySmith with further evidence. ParadaJulio ( talk) 09:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)