Lear 21 and KJohansson have a remarkably similar modus operendi per WP:DUCK: the same editing interests ( EU, great power, Berlin, Germany), same obstinate POV pushing/edit warring/disruptive behavior for months on end ( Great power), same "see talk"/"update" edit summaries [1] [2] (a habit of leaving a message on the talk and making unilateral changes), a habit of making flippant personal attacks and accusations of ignorance/contravention of Wikipedia policies ( [3] [4] [5]) [6], same location (Berlin) and same ISP (HANSENET-ADSL) etc. KJohansson claims to be from Sweden [7] but edits using the same ISP as Lear in Berlin [8]. If you would like more diffs I'd be more than happy to investigate further. Nirvana888 ( talk) 00:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
Some of the 85. IP´s related edits are likely conducted by myself (Lear 21). Nevertheless it remains as an absurd accusation by user:Nirvana888, who himself has been blocked because of socketpuppet violations. Most likely it is the reason why this user suspects others of doing so as well. The user:Nirvana888 has been engaged in an edit war at Great power and tries to initiate a personal attack on the base of this accusation in order to intimidate and to distruct from sensible argumentation at the discussion pages. As I am an exposed editor of several high quality mostread articles the existence of copycats (accounts like Lear22) under my name should not surprise. The user:KJohansson seems to have some similar editing interests with myself (we also discussed in other article themes) but in total seems to have a different focus(unlike the accusations suggests). The user is not identical with myself. all the best Lear 21 ( talk) 00:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I am still suspicious of these accounts. Sockpuppeting seems possible, and meatpuppeting seems quite likely. The serial personal attacks and contempt for other editors shown by Johansson, and persistent unilateral edits by Lear and Johansson have obstructed what should have an easy edit dispute to resolve. Viewfinder ( talk) 08:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed
MuZemike 00:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed that KJohansson and Lear21 are the same editor. Wegos is
Unrelated. No comment on the IPs.
Thatcher 03:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Administrator note The following administrative actions have been taken:
MuZemike 03:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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Two annon IPs (one user) have posted legal threats against Nirvana888 [11] [12] [13] [14]
User returns to articles on lists of countries making near-identical arguments to those used in previous discussions. Note in particular this personal attack as compared with this one. That second message also indicates familiarity with previous discussions: note that the last discussion was eighteen months ago). There is a little more evidence that I would prefer not to reveal publicly per WP:BEANS (e-mail me). Worth adding that the discussion was started by an IP that was in a similar range to one of those suspected of being one of Lear's sockpuppets last time around (Checkuser: no comment).
Relevant IPs are:
All geolocate to Germany, the last to Berlin in particular.
Pfainuk talk 13:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
They do all geolocate to Germany, but they go to different cities in Germany. 78.53.145.157 goes to Hamburg, Germany where as 92.230.50.163 goes to Frankfurt, Germany. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 01:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
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The contributions histories indicate that these users make (or made) edits to a very limited range of related articles (mainly 2 specific articles) and act in conspicuous unison in disputes (see esp. Wikipedia:Featured article review/Germany/archive1, Talk:Germany#FA concerns, and Talk:Germany#Crystal ball). The two accounts were, until recently, largely restricted to one topic each, one for each of the two main topics previously edited by blocked User:Lear 21 (KarlMathiessen for Germany and Kantianer for Berlin). Though individual edits may not be unconstructive, if these are controlled by the same person, the actions of the users constitute block evasion and an attempt to manipulate apparent consensus. Blocked User:Lear 21 is apparently still active on de:wikipedia. Boson ( talk) 21:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
Lear 21 and KJohansson have a remarkably similar modus operendi per WP:DUCK: the same editing interests ( EU, great power, Berlin, Germany), same obstinate POV pushing/edit warring/disruptive behavior for months on end ( Great power), same "see talk"/"update" edit summaries [1] [2] (a habit of leaving a message on the talk and making unilateral changes), a habit of making flippant personal attacks and accusations of ignorance/contravention of Wikipedia policies ( [3] [4] [5]) [6], same location (Berlin) and same ISP (HANSENET-ADSL) etc. KJohansson claims to be from Sweden [7] but edits using the same ISP as Lear in Berlin [8]. If you would like more diffs I'd be more than happy to investigate further. Nirvana888 ( talk) 00:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
Some of the 85. IP´s related edits are likely conducted by myself (Lear 21). Nevertheless it remains as an absurd accusation by user:Nirvana888, who himself has been blocked because of socketpuppet violations. Most likely it is the reason why this user suspects others of doing so as well. The user:Nirvana888 has been engaged in an edit war at Great power and tries to initiate a personal attack on the base of this accusation in order to intimidate and to distruct from sensible argumentation at the discussion pages. As I am an exposed editor of several high quality mostread articles the existence of copycats (accounts like Lear22) under my name should not surprise. The user:KJohansson seems to have some similar editing interests with myself (we also discussed in other article themes) but in total seems to have a different focus(unlike the accusations suggests). The user is not identical with myself. all the best Lear 21 ( talk) 00:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
I am still suspicious of these accounts. Sockpuppeting seems possible, and meatpuppeting seems quite likely. The serial personal attacks and contempt for other editors shown by Johansson, and persistent unilateral edits by Lear and Johansson have obstructed what should have an easy edit dispute to resolve. Viewfinder ( talk) 08:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Clerk endorsed
MuZemike 00:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Confirmed that KJohansson and Lear21 are the same editor. Wegos is
Unrelated. No comment on the IPs.
Thatcher 03:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Administrator note The following administrative actions have been taken:
MuZemike 03:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically. |
Two annon IPs (one user) have posted legal threats against Nirvana888 [11] [12] [13] [14]
User returns to articles on lists of countries making near-identical arguments to those used in previous discussions. Note in particular this personal attack as compared with this one. That second message also indicates familiarity with previous discussions: note that the last discussion was eighteen months ago). There is a little more evidence that I would prefer not to reveal publicly per WP:BEANS (e-mail me). Worth adding that the discussion was started by an IP that was in a similar range to one of those suspected of being one of Lear's sockpuppets last time around (Checkuser: no comment).
Relevant IPs are:
All geolocate to Germany, the last to Berlin in particular.
Pfainuk talk 13:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
See Defending yourself against claims.
They do all geolocate to Germany, but they go to different cities in Germany. 78.53.145.157 goes to Hamburg, Germany where as 92.230.50.163 goes to Frankfurt, Germany. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 01:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters "~~~~"
The contributions histories indicate that these users make (or made) edits to a very limited range of related articles (mainly 2 specific articles) and act in conspicuous unison in disputes (see esp. Wikipedia:Featured article review/Germany/archive1, Talk:Germany#FA concerns, and Talk:Germany#Crystal ball). The two accounts were, until recently, largely restricted to one topic each, one for each of the two main topics previously edited by blocked User:Lear 21 (KarlMathiessen for Germany and Kantianer for Berlin). Though individual edits may not be unconstructive, if these are controlled by the same person, the actions of the users constitute block evasion and an attempt to manipulate apparent consensus. Blocked User:Lear 21 is apparently still active on de:wikipedia. Boson ( talk) 21:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.