As the contribs of these IP editors show, pretty much their only edits were to turn on MiszaBot archiving on talk pages where Kauffner had lost an RM discussion, tuned such that the history would be archived, after which Kauffner would come back with a new RM. The evidence is most clear in the contribs of the IPs and in the histories of the affected article talk pages, rather than in individual diffs. See Talk:Black Caviar history, Talk:Praha hlavní nádraží history (where the IP had to follow up with a lower minthreadsleft to get the intended effect), Talk:Ca Mau history, Talk:Carmel-by-the-Sea history, and Talk:Lady Trieu history; the ones where the second phase (Kauffner's new RM) hasn't happened yet or was interfered with include Talk:Gilbert du Motier, marquis de Lafayette history, Talk:Sooyoung history, and Talk:History of Champagne history. Dicklyon ( talk) 23:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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I find this a rather interesting accusation. If all of the changes to the archive bot were done by someone with their main account that was involved in RMs, would they have violated any wikipedia rules? And if they would not, how would not bothering to log in to make simple adjustments to archiving bots settings in anyway violate rules? BritishWatcher ( talk) 23:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid there are more, at least including:
As per BritishWatcher above is Miszabotpuppeting violating any WP rule? In the Can Tho IP edits there was no new RM, but RM results were archived before a G6 "uncontroversial move" request submitted counter RM result. With Ca Mau two contrary RM results were archived before a User move. Several of the cases where Miszabot hasn't clicked in yet, such as Gilbert du Motier, marquis de Lafayette, Kinmen → Quemoy, Sooyoung → Choi Soo-young are listed as future RMs on User:Kauffner/RM incubator. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC) (ec)
Time ticks on. I perhaps have some rather old-fashioned ideas about honesty, and corny as it may sound in such a trivial context as editing a volunteer blogpedia, integrity and decency. To me it matters not only how one behaves in life, but how one owns up to things, even trivial things, when challenged. I took 4 of the IPs privately to Kauffner on 20:02, 22 July 2012, and this is where I would expect someone with the same old-fashioned ideas about honesty to say either "Yes, sorry that is me, explanation" or "No, that is not me". It is now 48 hours later, and evasion such as that de minimis non curat lex means not having to answer... well to me that is only adding to the pattern. But as I say I'm old-fashioned. I hope the next post from Kauffner is going to be a short post saying either "Yes sorry" and listing any other IP edits, or it will be "No, that wasn't me." Anything else and that makes it worse. In ictu oculi ( talk) 18:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
All 14x of the cities were moved counter RM, and all 14x had the RM result obscured - Kauffner's own failed Can Tho RM, and Ca Mau (which had the earlier 2010 RM which Kauffner was not involved in + bot to Kauffner's failed RM2 on it) by IPs, the other 12x by logged in edits deleting the RM bot to the failed RM you yourself himself launched:
I'm on a trip tomorrow, so won't start an AN/I or RFC/U now. If someone else will, great; otherwise I'll do it later. Dicklyon ( talk) 04:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
OMG, is all this still dragging on? Kauffner, you need to explain yourself to the community. Isn't that obvious? We all knew that you were heavily involved in Vietnamese issues before this investigation. Nothing secret is being revealed in any untoward way; but if you think it is, you have the option of contacting a checkuser privately by email, explaining yourself in full, and simply noting the fact here. You could report whom you approached, but give none of the details publicly here. The checkuser could then review your submission, and everything on this page, and ask any further questions deemed necessary before closing things satisfactorily.
What stops you? You are wasting everyone's time and effort. Bring the matter to a reasonable end, please. If you will not, it should not surprise you if matters are taken out of your hands and an RFC/U is issued against you. It should be broad enough to encompass your persistent misuse of evidence at RM discussions, and your refusal to answer questions about the flaws in such evidence – and to mend your ways so that participants and closing admins are not misled.
Some responsibility now, please. ☺
Noetica
Tea? 07:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Sock puppetry can take on several different forms:
- Logging out to make problematic edits as an IP address...
Editors who use unlinked alternative accounts, or who edit as an IP address editor separate from their account, should carefully avoid any crossover on articles or topics, because even innocuous activities such as copy editing, wikifying, or linking might be considered sock puppetry in some cases and innocuous intentions will not usually serve as an excuse
- Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts: Editors may not use more than one account to contribute to the same page or discussion in a way to suggest that they are multiple people. Contributions to the same page with clearly linked legitimate alternative accounts is not forbidden (e.g. editing the same page with your main and public computer account or editing a page using your main account that your bot account edited).
- Avoiding scrutiny: Using alternative accounts that are not fully and openly disclosed to split your editing history means that other editors may not be able to detect patterns in your contributions. While this is permitted in certain circumstances (see legitimate uses), it is a violation of this policy to create alternative accounts to confuse or deceive editors who may have a legitimate interest in reviewing your contributions.
...
- Editing logged out in order to mislead: Editing under multiple IP addresses may be treated the same as editing under multiple accounts where it is done deceptively or otherwise violates the above principles. Where editors log out by mistake, they may wish to contact an editor with oversight access to ensure there is no misunderstanding.
It's disappointing because I've gone from supporting this editor on his drive for "English names" a few months back to being, understatement, seriously concerned, but by what is written in Wikipedia:Sock puppetry this is IP-puppetry, and if it isn't then these sections of WP:Sock puppetry need to be rewritten to allow what User:Kauffner has done on a dozen RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
In ictu oculi alerted me to this issue yesterday. By and large the problems look trifling (there is nothing wrong with either archiving or starting new move requests) but there is some evidence of problem editing if the accounts are connected. For instance In none of these move requests did Kauffner indicate previous discussions, as he should have done per the
WP:RM process, though if the IPs are him he was clearly aware of them.
The
Ca Mau move is more troubling. The article was moved to
Cà Mau following a
move request; this discussion was archived after tagging by
118.69.133.249
here. Then Kauffner moved the page to
Ca Mau without discussion
here. If the IP is Kauffner, if follows that (1) he was aware of the previous discussion but made an undiscussed move anyway, and (2) he was trying to skirt the process and avoid scrutiny in doing so. Kauffner was previously
called out for obscuring past move discussions before initiating new moves as "uncontroversial" here. If the accounts are connected, this is a misuse of alternate accounts, compounded if it's happened elsewhere.--
Cúchullain
t/
c 14:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
The evidence looks pretty convincing that the IPs are Kauffner editing while logged out. While the edits don't look very disruptive taken individually, there does seem to be a pattern of questionable tactics to influence article naming discussions. Checkusers don't generally associate IPs with named account for privacy reasons, so I'm not sure SPI is the correct venue here. As the behaviour seems to be connected with a wider issue with article titles and page moves, it would be reasonable to discuss some sort of restriction from RM and page moving. If public discussion at AN is out of the question because of Kauffner's privacy concerns, I'm sure ArbCom can be asked to look at the evidence privately. Jafeluv ( talk) 13:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I would drop the IP investigation for privacy issues. Checkusers avoid publicly connect users and IP addresses, and frankly, even if true it's at most a minor evasion compared with the move-related behaviour from the alleged master account. Had Kauffner noted past RM results when making or requesting "uncontroversial" moves, nobody would care that IP editors had manipulated archiving. And for the record: [7] [8] [9] I originally noticed Kauffner after this move of a featured article, citing a result of a RM that was not advertised at the featured article [10] Gimmetoo ( talk) 01:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
This is still open? We need to wrap this up and move on to the next step, whatever that may be.-- Cúchullain t/ c 19:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
This account has focused almost exclusively on making dozens of undiscussed moves removing diacritics from Vietnamese article titles, which is Kauffner's MO. Kauffner has used socks in this way in the past, and has continued to make veiled threats to use them since getting caught. [11] [12]
Many of these moves restore a previous undiscussed move by Kauffner, which was later overturned by other editors. For one of many examples, this move repeated this earlier one by Kauffner, which had been undone by ༆ here. Similarly, this move restored Kauffner's preferred diacritic-free title. This was one of very many articles Kauffner tagged for G6 deletion as "uncontroversial"; [13] the move was carried out and subsequently reverted by Edgar181 when the problem was noticed.
Additionally, the TenMuses account also makes minor edits to the redirects, preventing other editors from reverting his moves ( [14] [15] [16]). This is another practice of Kauffner and his previous sock puppets. [17] Several moves (including [18] [19] [20]) targeted fairly obscure articles created by In ictu oculi, with whom Kauffner has ongoing contention. When In ictu made a technical request to restore some of these pages, Kauffner, not TenMuses, showed up to contest them. [21]
I'm requesting a checkuser due to the possibility of sleeper accounts; this one was created in March and made a number of edits before being noticed. Cúchullain t/ c 15:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems this SPI may have gotten hard to follow. To summarize for the clerks, TenMuses appears to be Kauffner because it follows the same pattern of removing diacritics from Vietnamese article titles, and then edits the resulting redirects so the pages can't be moved back without deletion. I'm requesting a CU due to the possibility of other undetected socks: Kauffner has abused sockpuppets before and has threatened to use them since. Below he essentially admits that User:Dieuhuyen is him. Hopefully we can get some movement on this one way or the other.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The new MergerDude account has only been heavily active since Kauffner's July 8 block for edit warring at Han-Nom. [29] That article was merged by a discussion, but Kauffner has continued to revert it, insisting it be taken to AfD instead. [30] [31] [32] Lo and behold, just after Kauffner reverted for the last time, [33] resulting in a new block, Merger Dude started an AfD using essentially the same wording as Kauffner. [34] It's hard to believe a new user would have this level of knowledge of Wikipedia's workings or adopt Kauffner's idiosyncratic position. As MergerDude has continued editing since Kauffner's July 11 block, this is block evasion. In ictu oculi has identified further evidence which I'll add momentarily (it didn't format correctly in the last attempt to open the SPI.) Cúchullain t/ c 16:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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This is evidence provided by In ictu oculi, here; the edit didn't format correctly:
New user MergerDude has begun significant activity 3 hours following 2 weeks block of Kauffner for edits accompanied by demand for an AfD for merged article Han-Nom ( 24 May, 31 May, 1 June etc.), new user edits have placed an AfD for merged article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Han-Nom ( log).
MergerDude has come out of nowhere highly expert in wikipedia terminology and editing. Account creation on 27 June 2013 follows 19 June merge (following 2 months discussion, cumulating in 6-1 consensus) of article Han-Nom and extensive discussion at 30 May Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion requesting an AfD rather than a merge.
MergerDude AfD request echoes demand of Kauffner at ANI ANI 09:08 8 July "Somebody man up and take this to AFD already". MergerDude revised wording expands on Kauffner argument at ANI ANI 10:38 8 July "..original research. That's certainly a basis to go to AFD." MergerDude also picks up Kauffner's understanding "Nom" (Vietnamese written in Chinese characters)]. This could of course simply be a new User who witnessed ANI, without contributing there, and was persuaded of the validity of the demand for an AfD, and therefore reflecting Kauffner's language at ANI. Likewise MergerDude could have picked up the understanding "Nom" = Vietnamese written in Chinese characters" from Kauffner's arguments.
However, the reason why this looks less like benign coincidence is the staggered time signatures between Kauffner's pauses in activity and MergerDude's activity. This has the same Vietnam timezone UTC+7 hours and travelling time from one terminal to another as the previous sockpuppet User:TenMuses which were in the 12:00-15:00 time slot. The log in / log out timings are as follows:
Third set:
Second set:
First set:
Hence a check user request is made between MergerDude and TenMuses - based on travelling time from the main User:Kauffner terminal. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
-- Cúchullain t/ c 16:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I was also highly suspicious of Mergerdude's sudden interest in this article, immediately after kauffner reblocked, but was not sure if it was strong enough WP:DUCK for an SPI. However, I add my support to this investigation. Gaijin42 ( talk) 16:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Summary: Block evasion (User already blocked for previous puppets) New account, but evidently not new user; expert familiarity with WP:RM system, quirks of language and argument, edit summary style, shared articles of interest (Asia, nobility), and timings with User:Kauffner, User:MergerDude all indicate same user. More detailed: After registering starts with a a quick run of edits following random article same pattern of random edits as used to provide edit history for previous sock MergerDude on 30 June, with Kauffner's edit summary mannerisms "wordsmith" "simplify". Significant activity starts on 06:01 11 July with Requested Move John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan → Lord Lucan. Highly expert RM proposal following style of many previous RMs sandboxed at User:Kauffner/RM incubator (including examples of royalty RMs) and effectively challenging the current WikiProject Nobility WP:NCROY guideline. Next significant activity at a RM Talk:America where another (unrelated) User has input a RM for a move originally proposed by User:Kauffner Talk:America/Archive_3#Requested_move:_America_.28disambiguation.29 America → America (disambiguation) 05 Sept 2011. 03:47 21 July 2013, 06:36, 23:51 supporting 3x but forgetting to actually formally post a Support !vote since Kauffner already formally posted Support on July 4 with 2 other posts supporting the same day. Warrior of Zen knows to formally Support (and edit summary 'Support') on another RM the day before but with America RM forgets because User has already !voted under main account. Most clear evidence in RM to restore Vietnamese diacritics at Talk:Nguyen dynasty - a high visibility example of Kauffner's single handed movement of the WP Vietnam article corpus during July-September 2011: Warrior of Zen posts 22 July Oppose I assume ... Britannica ...Amazon, where citation of Britannica was a hallmark in many of the edit summaries on the undiscussed moves of the Vietnam article corpus, and also many Talk pages. As far as timings go a detailed presentation of log-in log-outs by main account and the 2 other recently blocked socks can be provided, but a check shows no conflict by overlap log-ins and instead staggered editing. Check User requested because of likelihood of other sleeper accounts. Both User:TenMuses and User:MergerDude were carefully prepared, so too was User:Warrior of Zen, this makes it likely there are other active accounts. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Same pattern again, random article generator to establish history, then verbatim into old editing habits removed Viettext warning template ( compare Kauffner), dictionary citation about Han-Nom (continuation of Kauffner Talk:Han-Nom, Merger page previous), citing Britannia and VN newswires against diacritics (instantly recognisable from many RMs, here also RM to restore article User Kauffner moved and redirect locked). In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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Yep, this is obviously Kauffner. -- Cúchullain t/ c 01:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Kauffner returned to an RM that they have previously participated in giving a strikingly similar rationale. Seems like a pretty clear WP:DUCK to me... TDL ( talk) 00:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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Found a sleeper: Neologiphile ( talk · contribs). WilliamH ( talk) 09:33, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Could we have a check-user on this to make sure it's Kauffner and not some impersonator (like Technoquack or whatever his name is)? I see a CU on Aug 13 caught the Neologiphile sleeper account but not this SpanishHarlem1, which had made its first edit before that date. Someone not using his real name ( talk) 09:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK. Same method of preparing sleeper, then drawn back to same old subjects in same wording = This is a repeat by Antonio Hazard of the same claim several times above by Kauffner on the same page. Also compare Kauffner proposing "Peter" on Saint Peter RM4 and Antonio Hazard placing new RM5 to "Peter" on Saint Peter, also Antonio Hazard 2nd comment on Saint Peter RM5. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:00, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK, as before couple of non-related edits then quickly to old grounds: verbatim earlier arguments on 2 RMs on same page. This diff indicates geographical location in Vietnam http://www.google.com.vn/search?tbm=bks&hl=en as Google Books.vn searches in many previous RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK, same pattern every time, few edits via random article generator, then to WP:RM, then to old fighting ground vs Vietnamese diacritics, verbatim citing of Britannia as model-MOS against Vietnamese diacritics as many of Kauffner's in earlier RfC and RMs. Also this is a familiar Kauffner RM argument against the purpose of DAB pages. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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All listed accounts have been blocked. Elockid ( Talk) 14:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Not even attempting to hide it. Ho Chi Minh IP only one posting, repeating argument of Kauffer from previous RM on same page. Also of previous sock putting in a Technical Move request on same article. In ictu oculi ( talk) 15:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
.......although given that it's possibly an Internet Cafe can quite understand taking action on one edit isn't necessarily a good thing. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK. Logging for completeness, IP used is a VPN route in Canada so no point in taking action. 1st edit straight to old battleground Vietnamese diacritics, yet again. 1st edit follows last sock SpeedDreamer to same RfC, citation of National Geographic verbatim per Kauffner on previous Vietnamese diacritics RfC last year. 2nd edit also to RM, another Kauffner RM interest area WikiProject Conservatism, support move of right wing commentator over Aussie cricketer. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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Usual pattern - run of random article suggested edits to establish history on 9 Sept. Then into expert RM mode on 19 Sept. Distinctive arguments Warum? "The readers who are not satisfied with our article on the film can be handled with a hatnote. None of them are looking for a DAB" compare Kauffner "It's safe to say that very few of the readers who type in this term are looking for a DAB", interest in Gibraltar again, view on "educational value". In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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Obvious enough, so blocked this one. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 09:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Using a VPN for 2 IPs through the Netherlands here quoting highbeam - as common in Kauffner RM comments in support of same position on Madonna as previous RM. Two IPs continue each others comments and use of Amazon In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
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Elockid (
Talk) 22:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
14.161.35.137 no attempt to hide, same old argument, same old Vietnam diacritics ground, using Ho Chi Minh City IP not VPN. 41.181.202.213 using VPN via South Africa, 2 edits. Similar argument to past Chinese song names RMs - familiar phrasing "Pretty much any phrase can be translated in more than one way" "Who benefits from a title no one can read?" by Kauffner from past Japanese film names RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC) In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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Usual pattern, random article generator to establish history on 5 articles 24 Sep, User page 25 Sep (edit summary I bark at Wikipedia's ruling trollocratic clique!), then 28 Sep back to Collaborationist Chinese Army to put back 3rd time same edits as 2 previous blocked socks User:Warum? and User:217.78.0.210 ---- then five IP sockfarm against WP:PDAB again at Talk:Thriller (Michael Jackson album). + 6th VPN 78.46.149.86 correcting for 4th VPN 118.68.75.228 and signing here. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:14, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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This edit [41] by Greatness Bites is very similar in style and content to this edit [42] by Antonio Hazard, previously blocked as a sock of Kauffner. Both use wording which is almost identical (the sentence beginning "despite all the gender-bending excitement") and both offer the same Google analytics link as evidence. Formerip ( talk) 13:39, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
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Usual MO: after a brief "ramp-up" he's off to RM, homing in on a couple of Vietnam-related articles and quoting Britannica. Favonian ( talk) 18:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Obvious sock. Blocked.
Elockid(
Boo!) 23:25, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
This edit to a talk page that has been protected because of an infestation of his IP socks constitutes quacking so obvious that I blocked him myself. This entry is just for the record. Favonian ( talk) 06:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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İn ictu ocli is an evident attempt to duplicate my own user name - as whistleblower on most of the previous SPIs. Usual pattern of random-article-generator edits, but then experienced contribution to an AfD rather than an RM. The others are evident experienced users among various socks participating in the Talk:The Downfall of Osen. Not always easy to identify which sock is User:Kauffner (though "I doubt etc." indicates 211.20.73.13 Kauffner), and which User:JoshuSasori (Japanese = woman prisoner Scorpion) Papasrune is probably the latter. User:Ich weiß dass nicht has already been blocked as an obvious sock by admin Favonian supporting 37.9.56.220 and 192.154.137.143. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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This is mind-numbingly repetitive. Some small, desultory edits, a little AfD, and then off to the fray of RM, specifically those related to Vietnam. Already blocked, but I guess we need to maintain a paper trail. Favonian ( talk) 12:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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Talk:No Gun Ri Massacre was among User:Kauffner's pages of highest activity, arguing with User:Cjhanley effectively to diminish the massacre, now a new editor WeldNeck is arguing with User:Cjhanley denying the same thing. Kauffner and WeldNeck on Talk:No Gun Ri Massacre. From other edits User:WeldNeck appears to be the dedicated US politics account of User:Kauffner. WeldNeck's first edit was 15:54, 28 June 2013 only 17 min after Kauffner's last logged-in edit the same day 15:37, 28 June 2013. Kauffner and WeldNeck share editing interests in 3 areas (1) Korean War, (2) Viet Cong, (3) conservative US politics. (also adding on for housekeeping a couple of blatant IPs 115.85.18.206 and 115.85.18.218 repeating interest in obvious RMs) In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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Let me state categorically that I am my own man and I have never edited under another username. I assumed I was all ready cleared in the 16 August 2013 investigation, but so be it. While commenting on my lack of literacy, Cjhanley didnt think we were the same users, I am not sure of the technical means to determine Sockpuppets, but does it seem plausible that I could have operated all this time as sock of Kauffner given that there have been 19 checkuser investigations of him since I first began editing here? WeldNeck ( talk) 15:48, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
I looked at some of the older checkuser cases against Kauffner and it appears that the evidence is split between behavioral, geographic and technical (IP's I assume).
Now, I share exactly one behavioral trait with Kauffner, we both edit the No Gun Ri article and both have had difficult interactions with the AP representative. Based on Kauffner’s SE Asian location (or at least where the IP’s have edited from) and my geographic location I can guarantee you there is no overlap here. Am I to be blocked based on one small piece of circumstantial evidence when a great deal of other evidence indicates I am not Kauffner? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeldNeck ( talk • contribs) 16:05, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if I come across as wordy here, but I get the impression I am being railroaded.
Looking at the article history, the separation of time between my participation and Kauffner's participation is 8 months!!!! Its not like Kauffner was indefinitely blocked and I just showed up. I was editing at least 6 weeks before he was blocked. WeldNeck ( talk) 16:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Here we go again. Some AfD work, a dispute over an Asian topic ( Xiao (mythology)), and of course requested move discussions like this one where he agrees with his previous incarnation Epaminondas of Thebes. I've blocked the new one, but if some more proxies etc. could also be blocked that would be ever so nice. Favonian ( talk) 18:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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evident from first 4 edits from random article generator, then straight to the fray at Talk:No Gun Ri massacre In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Looks like he received a lovely bunch of blocks by me and Favonian.
Elockid(
Boo!) 04:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Kauffner Classic: Vietnamese focus, pointless edits to expand the revision history of a redirect with diacritics, thus preventing a renaming of the target article. Already blocked; just leaving a paper trail. Favonian ( talk) 09:45, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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The usual, random edit to Finland, then off to contest revert of undiscussed Vietnamese-name stripping moves at RM In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Only edit to make a comment on a Vietnamese RM repeating incorrect dictionary statement made earlier on same Talk page. In ictu oculi ( talk) 10:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked. The IP has also been rangeblocked by DoRD.
Elockid(
Boo!) 22:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Ho Chi Minh-based IP, interest in South Korean singers and RMs, citing and supporting own earlier RM vote by 77.86.214.46 (proxy geolocates to Finland) ...used the same Finnish proxy service in an earlier SPI 77.86.214.25 before heading off to Vietnamese RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 15:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Obvious sock is obvious. The 113 IP is blocked by me. The other IP is rangeblocked. I blocked some other Kauffner socks editing through webhosts.
Elockid (
Talk) 15:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Another jokey name, more edits related to Chinese in Vietnam [51], Vietnam related articles [52], and a diacritic-driven page move: [53] JohnBlackburne words deeds 12:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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Sacastic, my ass! has the usual Kauffner-style user name, user page and focus.
Proud Henry was created a little over an hour after Dieuhuyen ( talk · contribs · page moves · current autoblocks · block log) was checkuser-blocked by Elockid. The account did the usual random edits and then took up where Dieuhuyen left off on Sino-Vietnamese characters, a re-creation of Han-Nom, which was merged into Chữ nôm over Kauffner's protests. Kanguole 15:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
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Blanking of a Vietnamese bio and recreation at the Vietnamese-less name. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Usual requested moved discussions regarding Asian topics, with the occasional foray into Germany. " Down with" is vintage Kauffner, compare for instance this old contribution. I have blocked Holy Four per WP:DUCK, so this is just for the record. Favonian ( talk) 13:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
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After the usual, tactical ramp-up, he went for No Gun Ri Massacre, one of his favorite haunts. Got into bit of a scrap with Cjhanley, compare this comment by Beta Quadrant with this edit by Kauffner. The Trekkie user name is also kind of a giveaway. I have blocked the account as a duck, leaving this entry in the ever-growing case file, just in case someone with the relevant tools wants to block whatever proxy he's using. Favonian ( talk) 11:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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It's been a while, but here is another classic sock, flying under the radar for a couple of weeks and then returning to the old Hán Nôm battleground with this edit, reverting to a previous sock's preferred version. Blocked as per usual and keeping the case file up to date. Favonian ( talk) 11:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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With this edit he essentially reintroduced changes previously made by blocked sock KlingonHeaven ( talk · contribs) here. Comparing this with this supports the claim. Sock already blocked – just maintaining the record. Favonian ( talk) 12:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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The first comment of Muslim Russia "The purpose of a title is to tell the reader the common name of a subject" here is cited also in Kauffner's wikipediocracy unblock appeal here Dec 2013. The second edit of Muslim Russia is the same old anti Vietnamese alphabet RM arguments. Other Kauffnerisms evident in these posts for those with the energy to follow up. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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Confirmed that
match the latest blocked sock from the archive,
Range blocks seem impossible, spread over a number of reasonably active consumer ranges, I don't think the collateral damage is worth it.
Amalthea 16:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
WP:DUCK case. Initial edits show the usual pattern of starting with a string of unrelated edits before delving into the old pet subjects or naming conventions mainly related to asian subjects and diacritics. In this case he also sought out his old supporters on the diacritic issue (to their credit they have been careful not to jump in headfirst). The contribution list is relativly short and will be obvious to any admin who previously dealt with the issue. Asking for checkuser due to the history of using open proxies and sleepers. Agathoclea ( talk) 06:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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Seems pretty clear cut to me as he went straight to the people who had supported him in the past to support the new RfC he created. Clearly not a new user who just happened to stumble upon those users. - DJSasso ( talk) 17:29, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Blocked per the distinctive QUACKing. I've left the investigation open for CU to catch other potential accounts.-- Cúchullain t/ c 17:54, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I am suspicious that the IP 12.177.80.66 is a sock of the banned/blocked user Kauffner. Kauffner has been indeffed for abusively using one or more accounts. On 31 March 2014 the above IP proposed a move at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton with the rationale "I know this has been discussed before, but she has been radically de-Rodhamizing to the point were it rarely even brings up one interest point." [54] After the request was deleted they posted it again, [55] whereupon it led to a full discussion. That unique word "de-Rodhamizing" was previously used by Kauffner in 2012: "She has been steadily de-Rodhamizing over the years, according to this ngram." [56] Quack, quack! MelanieN ( talk) 16:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
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Some perfunctory edits followed by this !vote in an RM discussion. Usual style, and the target article is an old haunt of his. Compare also with the recently blocked Where are you going? ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki). I'll block this duck as well, but because of a well-established tradition for sleepers, I'm requesting CheckUser. Favonian ( talk) 15:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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Familiar quacking. The pattern of edits and style should be immediately obvious to those who have handled previous. Requesting checkuser again (sorry) since last checkuser didn't pick up this sleeper along with 2 others. In ictu oculi ( talk) 00:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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Usual pattern: main interest Asian topics; an, in this case rather long, period of lurking around before initiating Talk:Yellow Emperor#Requested move with the customary reliance on Britannica; a user name which presumably passes for whimsical on Kauffner World. Finally, this use of the edit summary "wordsmith", previously used by his socks Greatness Bites and MergerDude (several times). Per SOP, I shall block this sock, but as several of the previous socks have originated from web hosts, proxies, etc., and there have been a number of sleepers, I request CU. Favonian ( talk) 16:33, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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see above, sorry i wrote in the wrong section Adam of kilkenny ( talk) 14:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK One dummy edit on an obscure Malta stub to displace the "Getting Started" Tag, then straight into battleground Vietnamese diacritics citing a favorite source. Given plentiful sleepers in past SPIs Checkuser requested. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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Obvious continuation of thought of previous blocked sock @ User_talk:Blueboar#Recognizability and Naturalness. Registration follows block. Agathoclea ( talk) 12:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
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This account (the current one admitted with its first edited to being the already-blocked one) appeared suddenly and reignited a recently-resolved content dispute on Emperor Jimmu, as well as canvassing one side of that dispute. There's no way it's a new user, and its user name and writing style are typical of Kauffner. But the kicker is this edit summary: Kauffner thinks I am the same person as User:Shahwould (even though User:Salvio Giuliano CUed me and blocked all my other accounts while Shahwould was already active), as he demonstrated from one of his IPs here. User:In ictu oculi agrees with this probability. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:01, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, compare "I'm allowed engage in sockpuppetry because Hijiri88 has multiple accounts, and you are definitely one of them" with "I'm allowed engage in sockpuppetry because Hijiri88 has multiple accounts, and you appear to be one of them". Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
The Vietnam-focused Kauffner would use the "Encyclopedia of Modern Asia" to edit an article on Japan's first emperor. Also, despite this account's absolute focus on this one Japanese topic, it seems pretty clear that he/she can't read Japanese which is similar to Kauffner. Compare Kauffner citing a children's book in an article on ancient Japanese history. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Favonian also appears to have given a handy summary on June 9. For some reason I can't copy-paste it, but it's the first three lines down to "Kauffner World". 182.249.52.174 ( talk) 03:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC) (Hijiri88's mobile)
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Clerk note: There's no reason that this report is exempt from the usual requirements for cohesive, cogent evidence. The evidence provided assumes I know something about this master. I don't. Start at the beginning and explain things. The paraphrased links by the way are not helpful. I agree with Satanic Sheik that they are misleading, despite my ability to look at the diffs themselves. There was also no reason to hat the evidence (why would you do that?). It's the most important section in the report.--
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Clerk declined. I thought that because some of the blocked puppets were not stale, it was possible, but if not for whatever reason, I'm declining this report. My endorse was just barely above my threshold for endorsing a CU, and I don't think the behavioral evidence is strong enough to warrant a block without some technical evidence, even if not conclusive.--
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Back with the same MO: opposing diacritics. Revisited an old RM target of Kauffner. Drive ahead linked to Kauffner's conservapedia webpage. TDL ( talk) 03:57, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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First alerted to "new" experienced/active editor with Kauffner style activity in RMs by editor User:Richhoncho, and this edit citing Britannia in a Vietnam related RM was enough to ask the question "are you Kauffner" direct to Claimsworth on User talk page, user ignored and continued editing - a previous Kauffner behaviour. see also here citing Republic of Taiwan / Ireland names a former active area. Account has now stopped editing but expect there will be at least 1 or 2 sleepers concurrently active as in most previous SPIs so checkuser required. Should not be stale against two most recent cases. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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Clued is almost certainly related. It looks like Kauffner is having trouble keeping track of his sockfarm. He forgot which account he had signed in with, replied to a discussion involving Clued with Claimsworth, and self-reverted when he realized he had used the wrong sock. Notice the identical edit summaries: [57]. TDL ( talk) 02:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't know whether Clued is a sock, but it does seem to be a SPA that was prepared in advance to argue various moves, etc. by proxy, at least it seems that way with respect to Talk:Shizuoka, Shizuoka#Requested move. I say "seems" because this is just my opinion and not a statement of fact. Also, some of the arguments given by Clued showed a fairly detailed knowledge of Wikipedia and it's workings that one would not really expect from such a new account. This edit , in particular, shows a degree a familiarity with another editor's behavior and ANI that I would not be expect from an account only about 3 weeks old, especially an account with no history of interaction with the editor referred to in the post. I also saw the "Claimsworth" post referred to above and thought the self-revert was unusual, but didn't look any deeper. If this SPI is true, then it's really too bad because I think good-faith discussions are what help keep Wikipedia moving forward. - Marchjuly ( talk) 22:10, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK the need to hunt for evidence is probably obviated by the most recent contuining RM votes ignoring "Sorry, but are you Kauffner?" on User Talk page, but if evidence is needed classic fixation on Merriam Webster and Britannica should be enough for any SPI admins who have already done Kauffner SPIs. Checkuser usually picks up 2 or 3 simultaneous socks. In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:05, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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@ DeltaQuad and Salvidrim: Kauffner is pretty prolific here. Is this something that would be suitable for a rangeblock, or filter that could preempt some of this? Gaijin42 ( talk) 17:05, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK. Asked if Kauffner on Talk page and as before account immediately ceased editing. Recent new account active interest in Japan Korea China, conservatism, moving after usual break into usual positions in variety of RMs. Probably familiar enough to those who have closed the preceding SPIs to dispense with blow by blow examples. But if new to this sock farm please ping me and I will illustrate. Usually one or two concurrent sleepers so checkuser needed. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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Asked if Kauffner on User Talk and account went dead. Starts with random token edits, moves to Asia, then to RMs as usual, should be familiar to SPI regulars by now. Checkuser usually picks up 1 or 2 other accounts. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Usual random start, Asia Ireland and anti-muslim interest, funny German name editing with the wrong sock and then reverting and adding similar with the correct sock indicates Checkuser needed and possible In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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Quacking loudly. Usual first edits pattern. Responded to Talk page question "...Kauffner? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)" by going quiet for 27 days then coming back full throttle on the old diacritics hobby horse, citing Britannica etc. In ictu oculi ( talk) 22:45, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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Quacking loudly, revisits old haunts, reopened RM Talk:Kinmen goes silent 3 days ago when asked on Talk page if Kauffner. In ictu oculi ( talk) 18:24, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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Quack. Familiar Kauffner signs, if it's not him it's his twin brother. Account created with quirky name (see previous socks) with admission: (←Created page with 'I did my time on the edge, but from now on I'm staying on the safe side.'), and straight into a RM to remove a Japanese diacritic here. The rearguing old argument using Chicago Manual of Style here, and return to an old haunt a Serbian tennis player Kauffner succeeded in de-diacriticizing a few years back here. In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Edit - withdrawn, couple of false positives, my apology to the user, this is the first time we've had a false positive in the long long list of socks. This can be closed and deleted. In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Same interests and preconceptions, and here expanding a comment by previous sock User:Fernando Safety, who then further edited it. Kanguole 13:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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I would like to continue to edit wiki pages, hence please do let me know if / what I am doing due to which my name is on this page. thanks a lot Notthebestusername ( talk) 04:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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The account's most recent edit (its first in two weeks) claims to have clashed with me in the past. If this claim is true, then Tivanir2 is definitely someone's sock, because I've never interacted wih either Tivanir2 or Tivanir1 before. The account's mainspace edits have almost all been to our Muhammad article, and the only Islam-interested editor I can remember conflicting with in the past is Kauffner.
Requesting CU because if this is Kauffner it means the account has been a sleeper who has somehow avoided being blocked for years, but moreso because there's a distinct possibility that it's someone else. Kauffner has historically been fairly careful about logging in to the right account at the right time, and this account's most recent edit looks like an accident resulting from editing from a device that was already logged into an account that had never interacted with me before. (Note that it's also possible, because they directly stated as much, that Tivanir2 is one of the several dozen users whose edits are currently live on ANI.)
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 22:25, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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Jokey name and returning to various Kauffner obsessions, eg the dating of Christmas ( [64] vs. [65]), surreptitious removal of Vietnamese diacritics [66] [67], [68] [69], advocating removal of non-English names, [70], and participation in WP:RM. [71] Recently, the editor suggested moving Republic of the Congo to a name [72] similar to the one long advocated by Kauffner (see here). Requesting check user for reasons that should be obvious by now. Cúchullain t/ c 16:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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Unrelated.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 14:16, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Says in userpage ALPHA BOB ( talk) 15:02, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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I am following proper procedure as outlined in WP:DG: "Compromised accounts: If you are unable to access your account because you have lost the password or because someone has obtained or guessed your password, you may create a new account with a clean password. In such a case, you should post a note on the user page of each account indicating that they are alternative accounts for the same person." 10W41 ( talk) 15:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I've indefinitely blocked 10W40 so the person cannot return to that account. Closing.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:08, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Jokey name, same classic areas of interest : Korea, Chinese dynasties, alt-right topics, anti-diacritics, - and more importantly what used to happen, asked "Kauffner?" and stopped editing. Can expand if needed but SPI staff will probably recognise in a quick click through. Be worth doing a user check to see what other socks simultaneously active. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Tiresome. Having at first misread the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bobby Martnen sock Academicoffee71 as a Kauffner sock, today the still unblocked Academicoffee71 and an unnoticed Kauffner sock Great scott are apparently working together; including Great scott supporting Academicoffee71's RM at Talk:Điện Biên Phủ. I didn't notice Great scott, another editor Hzh did challenged Great scott about relation to Whiff of greatness (an already blocked Kauffner sock) here in relation to Whiff of greatness etymology edits to the main China article here partially reverted then partially repeated by the Great scott account, Great scott responded by blanking editor Hzh's enquiry. Also interact tool suggests Hzh's suspicion correct given small amount of edits of both new accounts and overlap on several unrelated articles. Note in particular Great scott switching to Whiff of greatness account Insular Government (Philippines) and Talk page of Insular Government (Philippines) featuring all three: Kauffner, Great scott, Whiff of greatness culminating in repeating an article move done by Kauffner in 2013. And again all three accounts (Kauffner, Whiff of greatness and Great scott) making similar etymology and name related edits on both the all 3 accounts in edit history of Gook article and edit all 3 accounts in history of Viet Cong article. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:59, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Jokey name and many common edits on several disparate Kauffner fixations, including Chinese history and dynastics, List of pretenders, Christmas, WP:DAB, and WP:RM as can be seen in the editor interaction utility. Same appeals to Britannica and Columbia on titling matters. [90] [91] [92] Quacking especially loudly is this RM, the same move and arguments made by Kauffner 6(!) years earlier here. Also compare these arguments [93] [94] to Kauffner's here. Requesting CU as is necessary for all Kauffner SPIs due to likelihood of sleepers. Cúchullain t/ c 20:11, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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FineStructure137 is classic Kauffner. It displays many of Kauffner's fixations, including Christmas and its dating, [95] requested moves (including to remove Vietnamese diacritics), [96] the Chicago Manual of Style, [97] and general Asian topics. [98] The lazy mouse is stale, but needs to be blocked as it's also obviously Kauffner. The jokey name is vintage Kauffner, as are the focus on pretenders, [99] in particular Chinese pretenders, [100] requested moves. Flagging for CheckUser but the CheckUsers can make the call whether to do that. Cúchullain t/ c 13:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
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FineStructure137 is
Likely, blocked and tagged.
Slithytoad (
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cuwiki) is a slightly better technical match but
Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. @
Cuchullain: I don't see the point in blocking The lazy mouse as it hasn't edited in almost a year, but you're free to do so.--
Bbb23 (
talk) 21:56, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
This user has been participating in RMs since they started editing Wikipedia. I don't know if this is the right master, but the behavior seems to be similar. They use the arguments for Britannica and Columbia [107]. Interstellarity ( talk) 11:15, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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This user just registered a month ago. Makes same arguments as other socks. Diffs: [109], [110]. Interstellarity ( talk) 15:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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Seems to be advertising that he is Kauffner as a plea for attention:
both rescuscitating an otherwise-forgotten pseudo-controversy of his from 2013. Kanguole 09:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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All contributions revolve around administrative areas worldwide (as with Kauffner). Many of those in Vietnam [111] (as Kauffner). Hangs around Requested Moves for administrative units [112] [113]. Belligerent [114]; all of Talk:Allan_Mustard. Changed "Rayon" to "District" in their virtually second edit [115]. The two IPs have similar features, and have supported the RM initiated by TerraCyprus at Talk:Comune and Talk:Gmina. No such user ( talk) 13:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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Identical topic focus at Talk:Anne, Queen of Great Britain with known sock puppet Whiff of greatness ( talk · contribs) DrKay ( talk) 22:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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-- Green C 21:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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After making 10 edits to enable editing, this account immediately moves into Kauffner's area of interest - Vietnamese names and spellings:
[120]. After a short break they move into Kauffner's particular speciality - removal of diacritics:
[121]. They then get back to slow-mo edit warring their earlier changes:
[122]
[123]
[124]
[125]. More focus on Vietnamese names:
[126]
[127]. Note the Viet Cong article was a particular focus of Kauffner:
[128]
[129]
[130]
[131]
[132]
[133]
[134] (later sock
[135]). Here they are making very similar edits with very similar edit summaries 14 years earlier:
[136]
[137].
Looks like a duck to me
Cambial —
foliar❧ 10:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
As the contribs of these IP editors show, pretty much their only edits were to turn on MiszaBot archiving on talk pages where Kauffner had lost an RM discussion, tuned such that the history would be archived, after which Kauffner would come back with a new RM. The evidence is most clear in the contribs of the IPs and in the histories of the affected article talk pages, rather than in individual diffs. See Talk:Black Caviar history, Talk:Praha hlavní nádraží history (where the IP had to follow up with a lower minthreadsleft to get the intended effect), Talk:Ca Mau history, Talk:Carmel-by-the-Sea history, and Talk:Lady Trieu history; the ones where the second phase (Kauffner's new RM) hasn't happened yet or was interfered with include Talk:Gilbert du Motier, marquis de Lafayette history, Talk:Sooyoung history, and Talk:History of Champagne history. Dicklyon ( talk) 23:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
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I find this a rather interesting accusation. If all of the changes to the archive bot were done by someone with their main account that was involved in RMs, would they have violated any wikipedia rules? And if they would not, how would not bothering to log in to make simple adjustments to archiving bots settings in anyway violate rules? BritishWatcher ( talk) 23:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid there are more, at least including:
As per BritishWatcher above is Miszabotpuppeting violating any WP rule? In the Can Tho IP edits there was no new RM, but RM results were archived before a G6 "uncontroversial move" request submitted counter RM result. With Ca Mau two contrary RM results were archived before a User move. Several of the cases where Miszabot hasn't clicked in yet, such as Gilbert du Motier, marquis de Lafayette, Kinmen → Quemoy, Sooyoung → Choi Soo-young are listed as future RMs on User:Kauffner/RM incubator. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC) (ec)
Time ticks on. I perhaps have some rather old-fashioned ideas about honesty, and corny as it may sound in such a trivial context as editing a volunteer blogpedia, integrity and decency. To me it matters not only how one behaves in life, but how one owns up to things, even trivial things, when challenged. I took 4 of the IPs privately to Kauffner on 20:02, 22 July 2012, and this is where I would expect someone with the same old-fashioned ideas about honesty to say either "Yes, sorry that is me, explanation" or "No, that is not me". It is now 48 hours later, and evasion such as that de minimis non curat lex means not having to answer... well to me that is only adding to the pattern. But as I say I'm old-fashioned. I hope the next post from Kauffner is going to be a short post saying either "Yes sorry" and listing any other IP edits, or it will be "No, that wasn't me." Anything else and that makes it worse. In ictu oculi ( talk) 18:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
All 14x of the cities were moved counter RM, and all 14x had the RM result obscured - Kauffner's own failed Can Tho RM, and Ca Mau (which had the earlier 2010 RM which Kauffner was not involved in + bot to Kauffner's failed RM2 on it) by IPs, the other 12x by logged in edits deleting the RM bot to the failed RM you yourself himself launched:
I'm on a trip tomorrow, so won't start an AN/I or RFC/U now. If someone else will, great; otherwise I'll do it later. Dicklyon ( talk) 04:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
OMG, is all this still dragging on? Kauffner, you need to explain yourself to the community. Isn't that obvious? We all knew that you were heavily involved in Vietnamese issues before this investigation. Nothing secret is being revealed in any untoward way; but if you think it is, you have the option of contacting a checkuser privately by email, explaining yourself in full, and simply noting the fact here. You could report whom you approached, but give none of the details publicly here. The checkuser could then review your submission, and everything on this page, and ask any further questions deemed necessary before closing things satisfactorily.
What stops you? You are wasting everyone's time and effort. Bring the matter to a reasonable end, please. If you will not, it should not surprise you if matters are taken out of your hands and an RFC/U is issued against you. It should be broad enough to encompass your persistent misuse of evidence at RM discussions, and your refusal to answer questions about the flaws in such evidence – and to mend your ways so that participants and closing admins are not misled.
Some responsibility now, please. ☺
Noetica
Tea? 07:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Sock puppetry can take on several different forms:
- Logging out to make problematic edits as an IP address...
Editors who use unlinked alternative accounts, or who edit as an IP address editor separate from their account, should carefully avoid any crossover on articles or topics, because even innocuous activities such as copy editing, wikifying, or linking might be considered sock puppetry in some cases and innocuous intentions will not usually serve as an excuse
- Contributing to the same page or discussion with multiple accounts: Editors may not use more than one account to contribute to the same page or discussion in a way to suggest that they are multiple people. Contributions to the same page with clearly linked legitimate alternative accounts is not forbidden (e.g. editing the same page with your main and public computer account or editing a page using your main account that your bot account edited).
- Avoiding scrutiny: Using alternative accounts that are not fully and openly disclosed to split your editing history means that other editors may not be able to detect patterns in your contributions. While this is permitted in certain circumstances (see legitimate uses), it is a violation of this policy to create alternative accounts to confuse or deceive editors who may have a legitimate interest in reviewing your contributions.
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- Editing logged out in order to mislead: Editing under multiple IP addresses may be treated the same as editing under multiple accounts where it is done deceptively or otherwise violates the above principles. Where editors log out by mistake, they may wish to contact an editor with oversight access to ensure there is no misunderstanding.
It's disappointing because I've gone from supporting this editor on his drive for "English names" a few months back to being, understatement, seriously concerned, but by what is written in Wikipedia:Sock puppetry this is IP-puppetry, and if it isn't then these sections of WP:Sock puppetry need to be rewritten to allow what User:Kauffner has done on a dozen RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
In ictu oculi alerted me to this issue yesterday. By and large the problems look trifling (there is nothing wrong with either archiving or starting new move requests) but there is some evidence of problem editing if the accounts are connected. For instance In none of these move requests did Kauffner indicate previous discussions, as he should have done per the
WP:RM process, though if the IPs are him he was clearly aware of them.
The
Ca Mau move is more troubling. The article was moved to
Cà Mau following a
move request; this discussion was archived after tagging by
118.69.133.249
here. Then Kauffner moved the page to
Ca Mau without discussion
here. If the IP is Kauffner, if follows that (1) he was aware of the previous discussion but made an undiscussed move anyway, and (2) he was trying to skirt the process and avoid scrutiny in doing so. Kauffner was previously
called out for obscuring past move discussions before initiating new moves as "uncontroversial" here. If the accounts are connected, this is a misuse of alternate accounts, compounded if it's happened elsewhere.--
Cúchullain
t/
c 14:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
The evidence looks pretty convincing that the IPs are Kauffner editing while logged out. While the edits don't look very disruptive taken individually, there does seem to be a pattern of questionable tactics to influence article naming discussions. Checkusers don't generally associate IPs with named account for privacy reasons, so I'm not sure SPI is the correct venue here. As the behaviour seems to be connected with a wider issue with article titles and page moves, it would be reasonable to discuss some sort of restriction from RM and page moving. If public discussion at AN is out of the question because of Kauffner's privacy concerns, I'm sure ArbCom can be asked to look at the evidence privately. Jafeluv ( talk) 13:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
I would drop the IP investigation for privacy issues. Checkusers avoid publicly connect users and IP addresses, and frankly, even if true it's at most a minor evasion compared with the move-related behaviour from the alleged master account. Had Kauffner noted past RM results when making or requesting "uncontroversial" moves, nobody would care that IP editors had manipulated archiving. And for the record: [7] [8] [9] I originally noticed Kauffner after this move of a featured article, citing a result of a RM that was not advertised at the featured article [10] Gimmetoo ( talk) 01:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
This is still open? We need to wrap this up and move on to the next step, whatever that may be.-- Cúchullain t/ c 19:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
This account has focused almost exclusively on making dozens of undiscussed moves removing diacritics from Vietnamese article titles, which is Kauffner's MO. Kauffner has used socks in this way in the past, and has continued to make veiled threats to use them since getting caught. [11] [12]
Many of these moves restore a previous undiscussed move by Kauffner, which was later overturned by other editors. For one of many examples, this move repeated this earlier one by Kauffner, which had been undone by ༆ here. Similarly, this move restored Kauffner's preferred diacritic-free title. This was one of very many articles Kauffner tagged for G6 deletion as "uncontroversial"; [13] the move was carried out and subsequently reverted by Edgar181 when the problem was noticed.
Additionally, the TenMuses account also makes minor edits to the redirects, preventing other editors from reverting his moves ( [14] [15] [16]). This is another practice of Kauffner and his previous sock puppets. [17] Several moves (including [18] [19] [20]) targeted fairly obscure articles created by In ictu oculi, with whom Kauffner has ongoing contention. When In ictu made a technical request to restore some of these pages, Kauffner, not TenMuses, showed up to contest them. [21]
I'm requesting a checkuser due to the possibility of sleeper accounts; this one was created in March and made a number of edits before being noticed. Cúchullain t/ c 15:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems this SPI may have gotten hard to follow. To summarize for the clerks, TenMuses appears to be Kauffner because it follows the same pattern of removing diacritics from Vietnamese article titles, and then edits the resulting redirects so the pages can't be moved back without deletion. I'm requesting a CU due to the possibility of other undetected socks: Kauffner has abused sockpuppets before and has threatened to use them since. Below he essentially admits that User:Dieuhuyen is him. Hopefully we can get some movement on this one way or the other.-- Cúchullain t/ c 13:05, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The new MergerDude account has only been heavily active since Kauffner's July 8 block for edit warring at Han-Nom. [29] That article was merged by a discussion, but Kauffner has continued to revert it, insisting it be taken to AfD instead. [30] [31] [32] Lo and behold, just after Kauffner reverted for the last time, [33] resulting in a new block, Merger Dude started an AfD using essentially the same wording as Kauffner. [34] It's hard to believe a new user would have this level of knowledge of Wikipedia's workings or adopt Kauffner's idiosyncratic position. As MergerDude has continued editing since Kauffner's July 11 block, this is block evasion. In ictu oculi has identified further evidence which I'll add momentarily (it didn't format correctly in the last attempt to open the SPI.) Cúchullain t/ c 16:05, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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This is evidence provided by In ictu oculi, here; the edit didn't format correctly:
New user MergerDude has begun significant activity 3 hours following 2 weeks block of Kauffner for edits accompanied by demand for an AfD for merged article Han-Nom ( 24 May, 31 May, 1 June etc.), new user edits have placed an AfD for merged article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Han-Nom ( log).
MergerDude has come out of nowhere highly expert in wikipedia terminology and editing. Account creation on 27 June 2013 follows 19 June merge (following 2 months discussion, cumulating in 6-1 consensus) of article Han-Nom and extensive discussion at 30 May Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion requesting an AfD rather than a merge.
MergerDude AfD request echoes demand of Kauffner at ANI ANI 09:08 8 July "Somebody man up and take this to AFD already". MergerDude revised wording expands on Kauffner argument at ANI ANI 10:38 8 July "..original research. That's certainly a basis to go to AFD." MergerDude also picks up Kauffner's understanding "Nom" (Vietnamese written in Chinese characters)]. This could of course simply be a new User who witnessed ANI, without contributing there, and was persuaded of the validity of the demand for an AfD, and therefore reflecting Kauffner's language at ANI. Likewise MergerDude could have picked up the understanding "Nom" = Vietnamese written in Chinese characters" from Kauffner's arguments.
However, the reason why this looks less like benign coincidence is the staggered time signatures between Kauffner's pauses in activity and MergerDude's activity. This has the same Vietnam timezone UTC+7 hours and travelling time from one terminal to another as the previous sockpuppet User:TenMuses which were in the 12:00-15:00 time slot. The log in / log out timings are as follows:
Third set:
Second set:
First set:
Hence a check user request is made between MergerDude and TenMuses - based on travelling time from the main User:Kauffner terminal. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
-- Cúchullain t/ c 16:09, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I was also highly suspicious of Mergerdude's sudden interest in this article, immediately after kauffner reblocked, but was not sure if it was strong enough WP:DUCK for an SPI. However, I add my support to this investigation. Gaijin42 ( talk) 16:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Summary: Block evasion (User already blocked for previous puppets) New account, but evidently not new user; expert familiarity with WP:RM system, quirks of language and argument, edit summary style, shared articles of interest (Asia, nobility), and timings with User:Kauffner, User:MergerDude all indicate same user. More detailed: After registering starts with a a quick run of edits following random article same pattern of random edits as used to provide edit history for previous sock MergerDude on 30 June, with Kauffner's edit summary mannerisms "wordsmith" "simplify". Significant activity starts on 06:01 11 July with Requested Move John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan → Lord Lucan. Highly expert RM proposal following style of many previous RMs sandboxed at User:Kauffner/RM incubator (including examples of royalty RMs) and effectively challenging the current WikiProject Nobility WP:NCROY guideline. Next significant activity at a RM Talk:America where another (unrelated) User has input a RM for a move originally proposed by User:Kauffner Talk:America/Archive_3#Requested_move:_America_.28disambiguation.29 America → America (disambiguation) 05 Sept 2011. 03:47 21 July 2013, 06:36, 23:51 supporting 3x but forgetting to actually formally post a Support !vote since Kauffner already formally posted Support on July 4 with 2 other posts supporting the same day. Warrior of Zen knows to formally Support (and edit summary 'Support') on another RM the day before but with America RM forgets because User has already !voted under main account. Most clear evidence in RM to restore Vietnamese diacritics at Talk:Nguyen dynasty - a high visibility example of Kauffner's single handed movement of the WP Vietnam article corpus during July-September 2011: Warrior of Zen posts 22 July Oppose I assume ... Britannica ...Amazon, where citation of Britannica was a hallmark in many of the edit summaries on the undiscussed moves of the Vietnam article corpus, and also many Talk pages. As far as timings go a detailed presentation of log-in log-outs by main account and the 2 other recently blocked socks can be provided, but a check shows no conflict by overlap log-ins and instead staggered editing. Check User requested because of likelihood of other sleeper accounts. Both User:TenMuses and User:MergerDude were carefully prepared, so too was User:Warrior of Zen, this makes it likely there are other active accounts. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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Same pattern again, random article generator to establish history, then verbatim into old editing habits removed Viettext warning template ( compare Kauffner), dictionary citation about Han-Nom (continuation of Kauffner Talk:Han-Nom, Merger page previous), citing Britannia and VN newswires against diacritics (instantly recognisable from many RMs, here also RM to restore article User Kauffner moved and redirect locked). In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:08, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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Yep, this is obviously Kauffner. -- Cúchullain t/ c 01:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Kauffner returned to an RM that they have previously participated in giving a strikingly similar rationale. Seems like a pretty clear WP:DUCK to me... TDL ( talk) 00:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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Found a sleeper: Neologiphile ( talk · contribs). WilliamH ( talk) 09:33, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Could we have a check-user on this to make sure it's Kauffner and not some impersonator (like Technoquack or whatever his name is)? I see a CU on Aug 13 caught the Neologiphile sleeper account but not this SpanishHarlem1, which had made its first edit before that date. Someone not using his real name ( talk) 09:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK. Same method of preparing sleeper, then drawn back to same old subjects in same wording = This is a repeat by Antonio Hazard of the same claim several times above by Kauffner on the same page. Also compare Kauffner proposing "Peter" on Saint Peter RM4 and Antonio Hazard placing new RM5 to "Peter" on Saint Peter, also Antonio Hazard 2nd comment on Saint Peter RM5. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:00, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK, as before couple of non-related edits then quickly to old grounds: verbatim earlier arguments on 2 RMs on same page. This diff indicates geographical location in Vietnam http://www.google.com.vn/search?tbm=bks&hl=en as Google Books.vn searches in many previous RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK, same pattern every time, few edits via random article generator, then to WP:RM, then to old fighting ground vs Vietnamese diacritics, verbatim citing of Britannia as model-MOS against Vietnamese diacritics as many of Kauffner's in earlier RfC and RMs. Also this is a familiar Kauffner RM argument against the purpose of DAB pages. In ictu oculi ( talk) 07:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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All listed accounts have been blocked. Elockid ( Talk) 14:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Not even attempting to hide it. Ho Chi Minh IP only one posting, repeating argument of Kauffer from previous RM on same page. Also of previous sock putting in a Technical Move request on same article. In ictu oculi ( talk) 15:56, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
.......although given that it's possibly an Internet Cafe can quite understand taking action on one edit isn't necessarily a good thing. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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WP:DUCK. Logging for completeness, IP used is a VPN route in Canada so no point in taking action. 1st edit straight to old battleground Vietnamese diacritics, yet again. 1st edit follows last sock SpeedDreamer to same RfC, citation of National Geographic verbatim per Kauffner on previous Vietnamese diacritics RfC last year. 2nd edit also to RM, another Kauffner RM interest area WikiProject Conservatism, support move of right wing commentator over Aussie cricketer. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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Usual pattern - run of random article suggested edits to establish history on 9 Sept. Then into expert RM mode on 19 Sept. Distinctive arguments Warum? "The readers who are not satisfied with our article on the film can be handled with a hatnote. None of them are looking for a DAB" compare Kauffner "It's safe to say that very few of the readers who type in this term are looking for a DAB", interest in Gibraltar again, view on "educational value". In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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Obvious enough, so blocked this one. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 09:54, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Using a VPN for 2 IPs through the Netherlands here quoting highbeam - as common in Kauffner RM comments in support of same position on Madonna as previous RM. Two IPs continue each others comments and use of Amazon In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
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Elockid (
Talk) 22:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
14.161.35.137 no attempt to hide, same old argument, same old Vietnam diacritics ground, using Ho Chi Minh City IP not VPN. 41.181.202.213 using VPN via South Africa, 2 edits. Similar argument to past Chinese song names RMs - familiar phrasing "Pretty much any phrase can be translated in more than one way" "Who benefits from a title no one can read?" by Kauffner from past Japanese film names RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC) In ictu oculi ( talk) 01:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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Usual pattern, random article generator to establish history on 5 articles 24 Sep, User page 25 Sep (edit summary I bark at Wikipedia's ruling trollocratic clique!), then 28 Sep back to Collaborationist Chinese Army to put back 3rd time same edits as 2 previous blocked socks User:Warum? and User:217.78.0.210 ---- then five IP sockfarm against WP:PDAB again at Talk:Thriller (Michael Jackson album). + 6th VPN 78.46.149.86 correcting for 4th VPN 118.68.75.228 and signing here. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:14, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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This edit [41] by Greatness Bites is very similar in style and content to this edit [42] by Antonio Hazard, previously blocked as a sock of Kauffner. Both use wording which is almost identical (the sentence beginning "despite all the gender-bending excitement") and both offer the same Google analytics link as evidence. Formerip ( talk) 13:39, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
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Usual MO: after a brief "ramp-up" he's off to RM, homing in on a couple of Vietnam-related articles and quoting Britannica. Favonian ( talk) 18:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Obvious sock. Blocked.
Elockid(
Boo!) 23:25, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
This edit to a talk page that has been protected because of an infestation of his IP socks constitutes quacking so obvious that I blocked him myself. This entry is just for the record. Favonian ( talk) 06:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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İn ictu ocli is an evident attempt to duplicate my own user name - as whistleblower on most of the previous SPIs. Usual pattern of random-article-generator edits, but then experienced contribution to an AfD rather than an RM. The others are evident experienced users among various socks participating in the Talk:The Downfall of Osen. Not always easy to identify which sock is User:Kauffner (though "I doubt etc." indicates 211.20.73.13 Kauffner), and which User:JoshuSasori (Japanese = woman prisoner Scorpion) Papasrune is probably the latter. User:Ich weiß dass nicht has already been blocked as an obvious sock by admin Favonian supporting 37.9.56.220 and 192.154.137.143. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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This is mind-numbingly repetitive. Some small, desultory edits, a little AfD, and then off to the fray of RM, specifically those related to Vietnam. Already blocked, but I guess we need to maintain a paper trail. Favonian ( talk) 12:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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Talk:No Gun Ri Massacre was among User:Kauffner's pages of highest activity, arguing with User:Cjhanley effectively to diminish the massacre, now a new editor WeldNeck is arguing with User:Cjhanley denying the same thing. Kauffner and WeldNeck on Talk:No Gun Ri Massacre. From other edits User:WeldNeck appears to be the dedicated US politics account of User:Kauffner. WeldNeck's first edit was 15:54, 28 June 2013 only 17 min after Kauffner's last logged-in edit the same day 15:37, 28 June 2013. Kauffner and WeldNeck share editing interests in 3 areas (1) Korean War, (2) Viet Cong, (3) conservative US politics. (also adding on for housekeeping a couple of blatant IPs 115.85.18.206 and 115.85.18.218 repeating interest in obvious RMs) In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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Let me state categorically that I am my own man and I have never edited under another username. I assumed I was all ready cleared in the 16 August 2013 investigation, but so be it. While commenting on my lack of literacy, Cjhanley didnt think we were the same users, I am not sure of the technical means to determine Sockpuppets, but does it seem plausible that I could have operated all this time as sock of Kauffner given that there have been 19 checkuser investigations of him since I first began editing here? WeldNeck ( talk) 15:48, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
I looked at some of the older checkuser cases against Kauffner and it appears that the evidence is split between behavioral, geographic and technical (IP's I assume).
Now, I share exactly one behavioral trait with Kauffner, we both edit the No Gun Ri article and both have had difficult interactions with the AP representative. Based on Kauffner’s SE Asian location (or at least where the IP’s have edited from) and my geographic location I can guarantee you there is no overlap here. Am I to be blocked based on one small piece of circumstantial evidence when a great deal of other evidence indicates I am not Kauffner? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeldNeck ( talk • contribs) 16:05, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry if I come across as wordy here, but I get the impression I am being railroaded.
Looking at the article history, the separation of time between my participation and Kauffner's participation is 8 months!!!! Its not like Kauffner was indefinitely blocked and I just showed up. I was editing at least 6 weeks before he was blocked. WeldNeck ( talk) 16:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Here we go again. Some AfD work, a dispute over an Asian topic ( Xiao (mythology)), and of course requested move discussions like this one where he agrees with his previous incarnation Epaminondas of Thebes. I've blocked the new one, but if some more proxies etc. could also be blocked that would be ever so nice. Favonian ( talk) 18:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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evident from first 4 edits from random article generator, then straight to the fray at Talk:No Gun Ri massacre In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Looks like he received a lovely bunch of blocks by me and Favonian.
Elockid(
Boo!) 04:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Kauffner Classic: Vietnamese focus, pointless edits to expand the revision history of a redirect with diacritics, thus preventing a renaming of the target article. Already blocked; just leaving a paper trail. Favonian ( talk) 09:45, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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The usual, random edit to Finland, then off to contest revert of undiscussed Vietnamese-name stripping moves at RM In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Only edit to make a comment on a Vietnamese RM repeating incorrect dictionary statement made earlier on same Talk page. In ictu oculi ( talk) 10:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Blocked. The IP has also been rangeblocked by DoRD.
Elockid(
Boo!) 22:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Ho Chi Minh-based IP, interest in South Korean singers and RMs, citing and supporting own earlier RM vote by 77.86.214.46 (proxy geolocates to Finland) ...used the same Finnish proxy service in an earlier SPI 77.86.214.25 before heading off to Vietnamese RMs. In ictu oculi ( talk) 15:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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Administrator note Obvious sock is obvious. The 113 IP is blocked by me. The other IP is rangeblocked. I blocked some other Kauffner socks editing through webhosts.
Elockid (
Talk) 15:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Another jokey name, more edits related to Chinese in Vietnam [51], Vietnam related articles [52], and a diacritic-driven page move: [53] JohnBlackburne words deeds 12:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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Sacastic, my ass! has the usual Kauffner-style user name, user page and focus.
Proud Henry was created a little over an hour after Dieuhuyen ( talk · contribs · page moves · current autoblocks · block log) was checkuser-blocked by Elockid. The account did the usual random edits and then took up where Dieuhuyen left off on Sino-Vietnamese characters, a re-creation of Han-Nom, which was merged into Chữ nôm over Kauffner's protests. Kanguole 15:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
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Blanking of a Vietnamese bio and recreation at the Vietnamese-less name. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:56, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Usual requested moved discussions regarding Asian topics, with the occasional foray into Germany. " Down with" is vintage Kauffner, compare for instance this old contribution. I have blocked Holy Four per WP:DUCK, so this is just for the record. Favonian ( talk) 13:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
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After the usual, tactical ramp-up, he went for No Gun Ri Massacre, one of his favorite haunts. Got into bit of a scrap with Cjhanley, compare this comment by Beta Quadrant with this edit by Kauffner. The Trekkie user name is also kind of a giveaway. I have blocked the account as a duck, leaving this entry in the ever-growing case file, just in case someone with the relevant tools wants to block whatever proxy he's using. Favonian ( talk) 11:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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It's been a while, but here is another classic sock, flying under the radar for a couple of weeks and then returning to the old Hán Nôm battleground with this edit, reverting to a previous sock's preferred version. Blocked as per usual and keeping the case file up to date. Favonian ( talk) 11:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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With this edit he essentially reintroduced changes previously made by blocked sock KlingonHeaven ( talk · contribs) here. Comparing this with this supports the claim. Sock already blocked – just maintaining the record. Favonian ( talk) 12:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
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The first comment of Muslim Russia "The purpose of a title is to tell the reader the common name of a subject" here is cited also in Kauffner's wikipediocracy unblock appeal here Dec 2013. The second edit of Muslim Russia is the same old anti Vietnamese alphabet RM arguments. Other Kauffnerisms evident in these posts for those with the energy to follow up. In ictu oculi ( talk) 09:55, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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Confirmed that
match the latest blocked sock from the archive,
Range blocks seem impossible, spread over a number of reasonably active consumer ranges, I don't think the collateral damage is worth it.
Amalthea 16:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
WP:DUCK case. Initial edits show the usual pattern of starting with a string of unrelated edits before delving into the old pet subjects or naming conventions mainly related to asian subjects and diacritics. In this case he also sought out his old supporters on the diacritic issue (to their credit they have been careful not to jump in headfirst). The contribution list is relativly short and will be obvious to any admin who previously dealt with the issue. Asking for checkuser due to the history of using open proxies and sleepers. Agathoclea ( talk) 06:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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Seems pretty clear cut to me as he went straight to the people who had supported him in the past to support the new RfC he created. Clearly not a new user who just happened to stumble upon those users. - DJSasso ( talk) 17:29, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Blocked per the distinctive QUACKing. I've left the investigation open for CU to catch other potential accounts.-- Cúchullain t/ c 17:54, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I am suspicious that the IP 12.177.80.66 is a sock of the banned/blocked user Kauffner. Kauffner has been indeffed for abusively using one or more accounts. On 31 March 2014 the above IP proposed a move at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton with the rationale "I know this has been discussed before, but she has been radically de-Rodhamizing to the point were it rarely even brings up one interest point." [54] After the request was deleted they posted it again, [55] whereupon it led to a full discussion. That unique word "de-Rodhamizing" was previously used by Kauffner in 2012: "She has been steadily de-Rodhamizing over the years, according to this ngram." [56] Quack, quack! MelanieN ( talk) 16:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
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Some perfunctory edits followed by this !vote in an RM discussion. Usual style, and the target article is an old haunt of his. Compare also with the recently blocked Where are you going? ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki). I'll block this duck as well, but because of a well-established tradition for sleepers, I'm requesting CheckUser. Favonian ( talk) 15:17, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
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Familiar quacking. The pattern of edits and style should be immediately obvious to those who have handled previous. Requesting checkuser again (sorry) since last checkuser didn't pick up this sleeper along with 2 others. In ictu oculi ( talk) 00:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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Usual pattern: main interest Asian topics; an, in this case rather long, period of lurking around before initiating Talk:Yellow Emperor#Requested move with the customary reliance on Britannica; a user name which presumably passes for whimsical on Kauffner World. Finally, this use of the edit summary "wordsmith", previously used by his socks Greatness Bites and MergerDude (several times). Per SOP, I shall block this sock, but as several of the previous socks have originated from web hosts, proxies, etc., and there have been a number of sleepers, I request CU. Favonian ( talk) 16:33, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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see above, sorry i wrote in the wrong section Adam of kilkenny ( talk) 14:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK One dummy edit on an obscure Malta stub to displace the "Getting Started" Tag, then straight into battleground Vietnamese diacritics citing a favorite source. Given plentiful sleepers in past SPIs Checkuser requested. In ictu oculi ( talk) 02:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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Obvious continuation of thought of previous blocked sock @ User_talk:Blueboar#Recognizability and Naturalness. Registration follows block. Agathoclea ( talk) 12:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
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This account (the current one admitted with its first edited to being the already-blocked one) appeared suddenly and reignited a recently-resolved content dispute on Emperor Jimmu, as well as canvassing one side of that dispute. There's no way it's a new user, and its user name and writing style are typical of Kauffner. But the kicker is this edit summary: Kauffner thinks I am the same person as User:Shahwould (even though User:Salvio Giuliano CUed me and blocked all my other accounts while Shahwould was already active), as he demonstrated from one of his IPs here. User:In ictu oculi agrees with this probability. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:01, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, compare "I'm allowed engage in sockpuppetry because Hijiri88 has multiple accounts, and you are definitely one of them" with "I'm allowed engage in sockpuppetry because Hijiri88 has multiple accounts, and you appear to be one of them". Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 15:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
The Vietnam-focused Kauffner would use the "Encyclopedia of Modern Asia" to edit an article on Japan's first emperor. Also, despite this account's absolute focus on this one Japanese topic, it seems pretty clear that he/she can't read Japanese which is similar to Kauffner. Compare Kauffner citing a children's book in an article on ancient Japanese history. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 00:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Favonian also appears to have given a handy summary on June 9. For some reason I can't copy-paste it, but it's the first three lines down to "Kauffner World". 182.249.52.174 ( talk) 03:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC) (Hijiri88's mobile)
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Clerk note: There's no reason that this report is exempt from the usual requirements for cohesive, cogent evidence. The evidence provided assumes I know something about this master. I don't. Start at the beginning and explain things. The paraphrased links by the way are not helpful. I agree with Satanic Sheik that they are misleading, despite my ability to look at the diffs themselves. There was also no reason to hat the evidence (why would you do that?). It's the most important section in the report.--
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Clerk declined. I thought that because some of the blocked puppets were not stale, it was possible, but if not for whatever reason, I'm declining this report. My endorse was just barely above my threshold for endorsing a CU, and I don't think the behavioral evidence is strong enough to warrant a block without some technical evidence, even if not conclusive.--
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Back with the same MO: opposing diacritics. Revisited an old RM target of Kauffner. Drive ahead linked to Kauffner's conservapedia webpage. TDL ( talk) 03:57, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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First alerted to "new" experienced/active editor with Kauffner style activity in RMs by editor User:Richhoncho, and this edit citing Britannia in a Vietnam related RM was enough to ask the question "are you Kauffner" direct to Claimsworth on User talk page, user ignored and continued editing - a previous Kauffner behaviour. see also here citing Republic of Taiwan / Ireland names a former active area. Account has now stopped editing but expect there will be at least 1 or 2 sleepers concurrently active as in most previous SPIs so checkuser required. Should not be stale against two most recent cases. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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Clued is almost certainly related. It looks like Kauffner is having trouble keeping track of his sockfarm. He forgot which account he had signed in with, replied to a discussion involving Clued with Claimsworth, and self-reverted when he realized he had used the wrong sock. Notice the identical edit summaries: [57]. TDL ( talk) 02:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't know whether Clued is a sock, but it does seem to be a SPA that was prepared in advance to argue various moves, etc. by proxy, at least it seems that way with respect to Talk:Shizuoka, Shizuoka#Requested move. I say "seems" because this is just my opinion and not a statement of fact. Also, some of the arguments given by Clued showed a fairly detailed knowledge of Wikipedia and it's workings that one would not really expect from such a new account. This edit , in particular, shows a degree a familiarity with another editor's behavior and ANI that I would not be expect from an account only about 3 weeks old, especially an account with no history of interaction with the editor referred to in the post. I also saw the "Claimsworth" post referred to above and thought the self-revert was unusual, but didn't look any deeper. If this SPI is true, then it's really too bad because I think good-faith discussions are what help keep Wikipedia moving forward. - Marchjuly ( talk) 22:10, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK the need to hunt for evidence is probably obviated by the most recent contuining RM votes ignoring "Sorry, but are you Kauffner?" on User Talk page, but if evidence is needed classic fixation on Merriam Webster and Britannica should be enough for any SPI admins who have already done Kauffner SPIs. Checkuser usually picks up 2 or 3 simultaneous socks. In ictu oculi ( talk) 14:05, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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@ DeltaQuad and Salvidrim: Kauffner is pretty prolific here. Is this something that would be suitable for a rangeblock, or filter that could preempt some of this? Gaijin42 ( talk) 17:05, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
WP:QUACK. Asked if Kauffner on Talk page and as before account immediately ceased editing. Recent new account active interest in Japan Korea China, conservatism, moving after usual break into usual positions in variety of RMs. Probably familiar enough to those who have closed the preceding SPIs to dispense with blow by blow examples. But if new to this sock farm please ping me and I will illustrate. Usually one or two concurrent sleepers so checkuser needed. In ictu oculi ( talk) 23:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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Asked if Kauffner on User Talk and account went dead. Starts with random token edits, moves to Asia, then to RMs as usual, should be familiar to SPI regulars by now. Checkuser usually picks up 1 or 2 other accounts. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
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Usual random start, Asia Ireland and anti-muslim interest, funny German name editing with the wrong sock and then reverting and adding similar with the correct sock indicates Checkuser needed and possible In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:25, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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Quacking loudly. Usual first edits pattern. Responded to Talk page question "...Kauffner? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)" by going quiet for 27 days then coming back full throttle on the old diacritics hobby horse, citing Britannica etc. In ictu oculi ( talk) 22:45, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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Quacking loudly, revisits old haunts, reopened RM Talk:Kinmen goes silent 3 days ago when asked on Talk page if Kauffner. In ictu oculi ( talk) 18:24, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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Quack. Familiar Kauffner signs, if it's not him it's his twin brother. Account created with quirky name (see previous socks) with admission: (←Created page with 'I did my time on the edge, but from now on I'm staying on the safe side.'), and straight into a RM to remove a Japanese diacritic here. The rearguing old argument using Chicago Manual of Style here, and return to an old haunt a Serbian tennis player Kauffner succeeded in de-diacriticizing a few years back here. In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:45, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Edit - withdrawn, couple of false positives, my apology to the user, this is the first time we've had a false positive in the long long list of socks. This can be closed and deleted. In ictu oculi ( talk) 08:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Same interests and preconceptions, and here expanding a comment by previous sock User:Fernando Safety, who then further edited it. Kanguole 13:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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I would like to continue to edit wiki pages, hence please do let me know if / what I am doing due to which my name is on this page. thanks a lot Notthebestusername ( talk) 04:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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The account's most recent edit (its first in two weeks) claims to have clashed with me in the past. If this claim is true, then Tivanir2 is definitely someone's sock, because I've never interacted wih either Tivanir2 or Tivanir1 before. The account's mainspace edits have almost all been to our Muhammad article, and the only Islam-interested editor I can remember conflicting with in the past is Kauffner.
Requesting CU because if this is Kauffner it means the account has been a sleeper who has somehow avoided being blocked for years, but moreso because there's a distinct possibility that it's someone else. Kauffner has historically been fairly careful about logging in to the right account at the right time, and this account's most recent edit looks like an accident resulting from editing from a device that was already logged into an account that had never interacted with me before. (Note that it's also possible, because they directly stated as much, that Tivanir2 is one of the several dozen users whose edits are currently live on ANI.)
Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 22:25, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
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Jokey name and returning to various Kauffner obsessions, eg the dating of Christmas ( [64] vs. [65]), surreptitious removal of Vietnamese diacritics [66] [67], [68] [69], advocating removal of non-English names, [70], and participation in WP:RM. [71] Recently, the editor suggested moving Republic of the Congo to a name [72] similar to the one long advocated by Kauffner (see here). Requesting check user for reasons that should be obvious by now. Cúchullain t/ c 16:18, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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Unrelated.--
Bbb23 (
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Says in userpage ALPHA BOB ( talk) 15:02, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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I am following proper procedure as outlined in WP:DG: "Compromised accounts: If you are unable to access your account because you have lost the password or because someone has obtained or guessed your password, you may create a new account with a clean password. In such a case, you should post a note on the user page of each account indicating that they are alternative accounts for the same person." 10W41 ( talk) 15:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I've indefinitely blocked 10W40 so the person cannot return to that account. Closing.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:08, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Jokey name, same classic areas of interest : Korea, Chinese dynasties, alt-right topics, anti-diacritics, - and more importantly what used to happen, asked "Kauffner?" and stopped editing. Can expand if needed but SPI staff will probably recognise in a quick click through. Be worth doing a user check to see what other socks simultaneously active. In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:36, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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Tiresome. Having at first misread the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bobby Martnen sock Academicoffee71 as a Kauffner sock, today the still unblocked Academicoffee71 and an unnoticed Kauffner sock Great scott are apparently working together; including Great scott supporting Academicoffee71's RM at Talk:Điện Biên Phủ. I didn't notice Great scott, another editor Hzh did challenged Great scott about relation to Whiff of greatness (an already blocked Kauffner sock) here in relation to Whiff of greatness etymology edits to the main China article here partially reverted then partially repeated by the Great scott account, Great scott responded by blanking editor Hzh's enquiry. Also interact tool suggests Hzh's suspicion correct given small amount of edits of both new accounts and overlap on several unrelated articles. Note in particular Great scott switching to Whiff of greatness account Insular Government (Philippines) and Talk page of Insular Government (Philippines) featuring all three: Kauffner, Great scott, Whiff of greatness culminating in repeating an article move done by Kauffner in 2013. And again all three accounts (Kauffner, Whiff of greatness and Great scott) making similar etymology and name related edits on both the all 3 accounts in edit history of Gook article and edit all 3 accounts in history of Viet Cong article. In ictu oculi ( talk) 17:59, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Jokey name and many common edits on several disparate Kauffner fixations, including Chinese history and dynastics, List of pretenders, Christmas, WP:DAB, and WP:RM as can be seen in the editor interaction utility. Same appeals to Britannica and Columbia on titling matters. [90] [91] [92] Quacking especially loudly is this RM, the same move and arguments made by Kauffner 6(!) years earlier here. Also compare these arguments [93] [94] to Kauffner's here. Requesting CU as is necessary for all Kauffner SPIs due to likelihood of sleepers. Cúchullain t/ c 20:11, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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FineStructure137 is classic Kauffner. It displays many of Kauffner's fixations, including Christmas and its dating, [95] requested moves (including to remove Vietnamese diacritics), [96] the Chicago Manual of Style, [97] and general Asian topics. [98] The lazy mouse is stale, but needs to be blocked as it's also obviously Kauffner. The jokey name is vintage Kauffner, as are the focus on pretenders, [99] in particular Chinese pretenders, [100] requested moves. Flagging for CheckUser but the CheckUsers can make the call whether to do that. Cúchullain t/ c 13:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
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FineStructure137 is
Likely, blocked and tagged.
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This user has been participating in RMs since they started editing Wikipedia. I don't know if this is the right master, but the behavior seems to be similar. They use the arguments for Britannica and Columbia [107]. Interstellarity ( talk) 11:15, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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This user just registered a month ago. Makes same arguments as other socks. Diffs: [109], [110]. Interstellarity ( talk) 15:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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Seems to be advertising that he is Kauffner as a plea for attention:
both rescuscitating an otherwise-forgotten pseudo-controversy of his from 2013. Kanguole 09:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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All contributions revolve around administrative areas worldwide (as with Kauffner). Many of those in Vietnam [111] (as Kauffner). Hangs around Requested Moves for administrative units [112] [113]. Belligerent [114]; all of Talk:Allan_Mustard. Changed "Rayon" to "District" in their virtually second edit [115]. The two IPs have similar features, and have supported the RM initiated by TerraCyprus at Talk:Comune and Talk:Gmina. No such user ( talk) 13:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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Identical topic focus at Talk:Anne, Queen of Great Britain with known sock puppet Whiff of greatness ( talk · contribs) DrKay ( talk) 22:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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-- Green C 21:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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After making 10 edits to enable editing, this account immediately moves into Kauffner's area of interest - Vietnamese names and spellings:
[120]. After a short break they move into Kauffner's particular speciality - removal of diacritics:
[121]. They then get back to slow-mo edit warring their earlier changes:
[122]
[123]
[124]
[125]. More focus on Vietnamese names:
[126]
[127]. Note the Viet Cong article was a particular focus of Kauffner:
[128]
[129]
[130]
[131]
[132]
[133]
[134] (later sock
[135]). Here they are making very similar edits with very similar edit summaries 14 years earlier:
[136]
[137].
Looks like a duck to me
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