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07 June 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • Using the Editor Interaction Analyzer, it's certain there are articles they have in common. For editing here a little less than a month, I find it suspicious they would have these articles AND three editor talk pages in common. See results here.
  • Suspected sock was created at the time suspected sock master Joseph Prasad was starting to get in trouble again with edit warring - around May 9-11 (Prasad was blocked again on May 11).
  • Both suspected sock and sockmaster have a habit of not using edit summaries.
  • It's a red flag when a brand new user immediately un-redlinks their user page. Another red flag is a brand new user saying they are here to fight vandalism in their first edit: "I made this account on Wikipedia, because I want to stop vandalism in articles and make all information here on Wikipedia correct with sources too." A new user who already knows about vandalism in Wikipedia and the importance of sources (since when does a new user know to use the term "sources")?
  • The following edit summary was also a red flag: not the kind of thing a brand new user would say -- especially one whose other comments are less succinct and more without real purpose (almost as if they are trying hard to sound like an inexperienced newbie). The edit summary doesn't sound like a newbie at all "I think the best way we should all agree with this edit is that we should discuss this on the talk page first before adding them back the article." Diff is found here.
  • Joseph Prasad has already been caught using a block-evading sock a few days ago (see User:Deadpool100) - Deadpool and FrozenFan have one article in common, Patrick Warburton.
  • Joseph Prasad had a tendency to be VERY touchy and take many things personally in regard to his editing -- it is the same for FrozenFan2. See the following exchanges between MarnetteD and FrozenFan2 (also note the similarity in wording and immature tone used by both FrozenFan and Joseph Prasad (keep in mind that Joseph Prasad is only 16 years old) [1], [2], [3].

At the very least, this is a DUCK. I do believe, however, based on the evidence that they are the same user and Joseph Prasad is using yet another sock account. Request check for sleepers. -- WV 23:02, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Note: For what it's worth evidence-wise, within minutes of creating this report and the subsequent notifications posted on the talk pages of the sockmaster and suspected sock, Joseph Prasad commented on his talk page. Almost immediately, the suspected sock, FrozenFan2, put comments on JPs talk page. Ever since, they have been replying to each other with rapid speed ( see here). -- WV 23:32, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply


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I said it once and I'm going to confirm it again. I'm not Joseph Prasad, I'm letting you guy's know that, just to clear things up here. I have no idea who he is, and I've never heard of that user name in my life. I never had that account here before, I already confirmed it on another sockpuppet discussion page, because there was also another sock puppet discusstion about me on another page in the past. In that one, everyone thought I was Atomic Meltdown, but I'm not. I don't understand why everyone keeps accusing me of being another user/same person.I'm not that user at all. I already confirmed it before. FrozenFan2 ( talk) 23:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply

Take a look here on his talk page, this will prove to you guy's I'm not him. /info/en/?search=User_talk:Joseph_Prasad#Sockpuppet_investigation

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09 June 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • IP is the same as Prasad's admitted IP address as given by him in his comments here (near the bottom of the page): "My IP is 76.14.125.113."
  • Commenting on an article (Meghan Trainor-related) that he has/had special interest in as well as the Drake Bell article (another article he has/had special interest) as well as significant contributions to.
  • Joseph Prasad has been blocked very recently for socking ( see here).

More than a duck, this is certainly Joseph Prasad. -- WV 03:53, 9 June 2015 (UTC) reply

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17 August 2015

Suspected sockpuppets

Editing same articles as Joseph Prasad and IP sock; edit warring behavior very similar; same use and non-use of edit summaries; edit warring over genres; account created the same day Prasad was blocked on March 15, 2015.

  • Suspected sock account is currently blocked for edit warring and other disruptive editing. Suspected sock had received numerous warnings for the same kind of behavior Joseph Prasad is known for: stubbornly reintroducing content reverted by other editors after receiving warnings, not using edit summaries, edit warring, and genre changes. Suspected sock talk page with warnings here.
  • Suspected sock, just like Joseph Prasad, largely avoids use of edit summaries. When edit summaries are used, it is in the same fashion as Joseph Prasad: long explanations with excessive detail. For example: suspected sock here and Joseph Prasad here.
  • Suspected sock account was created the same day as Joseph Prasad received a two-week block on March 25, 2015. It was utilized more heavily the day after Prasad received a month-long block on April 4, 2015. It was then abandoned for nearly the entire month-long block was in place and then use of it began again (May 23, 2015) after Prasad received a six month block that began on May 11, 2015. See block log evidence here and suspected sock account's contributions from right after account creation here.

Looks like a duck, but I believe the block log timeline and articles edited evidence points squarely at sockmaster Joseph Prasad for block-evasion. Requesting C/U and check for sleepers as this account was created five months ago. It seems likely there are more on standby and with the suspected sock account now blocked, at least one of them will probably come out of dormancy. -- WV 19:00, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm not really seeing the connection. Gekuta6 is very interested in the rapper Nelly, but Joseph Prasad and confirmed sock Deadpool100 never touched Nelly material. The various edits that have been made to artist discographies by Gekuta6 and the Joseph Prasad/Deadpool100 sock group are not supportive of each other—there's no edit warring over the same content. For instance, at the Justin Bieber discography, Gekuta6 was consistently trying to delete some songs that were not supported by Justin Bieber's Journals. Deadpool100 and Joseph Prasad (and IP 76.14.125.113) did nothing like that; they just made one or two minor changes. Binksternet ( talk) 21:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Aside from a decent number of articles in common ( Drake (rapper) and Justin Bieber being two of Prasad's article obsessions and the suspected sock having heavily edited both), the biggest giveaway is the timeline of suspected sock account creation and usage. Both coincide with Prasad's account being blocked for long periods. The suspected sock account was created the same day as a longer-term block for Prasad back in March. Coincidence? I don't think so. -- WV 21:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply

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24 January 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • Joseph Prasad is currently blocked for edit warring; block was done by Swarm on January 21, 2015.
  • Joseph Prasad has an established history of socking for block evasion. After he was blocked six months by Only for persistent, intentional edit warring on May 11, 2015 he was then blocked on June 2, 2015 for blocked six months by KWW as a result of block evasion while using the account, User:Deadpool100.
  • He was spotted as continuing to sock with the account User:DragonBall207 in August 2015. At the time of that report, a checkuser found he also had a sleeper account, User:Tampo401. All three were blocked.
  • Today, Joseph Prasad used the IP sock being reported at his account talk page here and here. While his edits were not obviously indicative of an intention to sock outside his talk page, however, it seems "fishy" that he edited his talk page with the IP and then almost immediately removed the comments by the other editor and himself as the IP editor from his talk page. Possibly to hide this IP he used/has used previously? (see contribution history of IP here).
  • This IP was used as a block evading sock for four months during Joseph Prasad's 6 month block (see complete contribution history here).
  • Undoubtedly, this is Joseph Prasad because of the geolocate evidence but also because of the articles in common: see Intersect contribs here.
  • Whatever the case, it is troubling that Joseph Prasad is technically socking during this current block, AND it appears he continued to sock further during his 6 month block, as evidenced by the IP's editing history. Because of his history of using IPs and sock accounts for block evasion, I felt it was prudent to bring it to the attention of SPI clerks and admins. This user seems intent to continue to break the rules, no holds barred.

I realize a CU would not be done for the IP being reported, but ask for a sleeper account check because of this user's history of frequent blocks (including his current block), creating sleepers, and block evasion. -- WV 02:15, 24 January 2016 (UTC) reply

Pinging Jezebel's Ponyo and Bbb23 for their familiarity with this user as a sockmaster. -- WV 02:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC) reply

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  • With the heavy block log including previous socking and socking while blocked (by behavior), I'm concluding that this person is not here to contribute within policy and have indefinitely blocked them. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 01:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC) reply

11 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Joseph Prasad was blocked indefinitely on January 29, 2016 for violation of sockpuppetry and, from what it seems in the blocking admin's notes, WP:NOTHERE. A week later, the Jones210 account was created at 22:51 on February 5, 2016.

  • Out of the 22 articles the suspected sock has edited, nearly half of them have been articles edited numerous times by Joseph Prasad.
  • Most notably edited are two of Joseph Prasad's favorite articles to edit (admitted by him as his favorite priority articles), Drake Bell and Drake Bell discography.
  • Intersecting Contribs report result showing these same articles edited here.
  • I find it not coincidental but revealing that both accounts, with what appears to be a strong interest in pop-music related articles, would edit the article of an American football player ( Matt Moore (American football). It seems out of character for someone editing pop-music articles to edit the article of a NFL player, yet both of these accounts have edited the same NFL player.

This does seem like a strong duck, but I am confident a CU will reveal them to be the same individual. Requesting CU as well as a check for sleepers and other accounts also currently being used because of Joseph Prasad's history of sockpuppetry when blocked. Am pinging Amanda as the last admin to block and review the most recent SPI for Prasad as well as Jezebel's Ponyo, Swarm, Kww, and Bbb23 for their familiarity with the blocked user's editing habits, block history, and previous socking. -- WV 17:10, 11 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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Good catch, Binksternet. -- WV 18:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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17 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Joseph Prasad has been blocked for WP:NOTHERE and sockpuppetry since January 29, 2016.

Report evidence is as follows:

  • Aside from the account being reported here, his most recent sockpuppet, User:Jones210 was created February 5, 2016.
  • The Jones210 account was blocked at 10:06 on February 12, 2016.
  • Suspected sock account was created at 17:55 on February 12, 2016, just short of eight hours after the Jones210 account was blocked.
  • Suspected sock being reported here has four articles in common with sockmaster Joseph Prasad. Intersect Contribs report results here: [4].
  • One of the edits made today by the Kelsey102 account was to revert this edit done after the Jones210 account had been blocked -- an edit that returns the content to Jones210's last edit there.
  • An article edited by Kelsey102 but not Joseph Prasad or Jones210 is I Know (Drake Bell song). It should be noted that the sockmaster, Joseph Prasad, has an admitted editing obsession with Drake Bell and has edited many Bell-related articles.
  • Kelsey102 has (save for one article) only edited music artist/discography articles. Joseph Prasad, for the most part, also edited music artist/discography articles.

Evidence says "duck". Requesting CU and check for sleepers and other accounts currently being used and created by the sockmaster. Pinging Bbb23, Jezebel's Ponyo, Amanda, Swarm, and Kww for their familiarity with this blocked user's sockpuppet history. -- WV 01:48, 17 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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05 March 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Fifth verse, same as the first. Another obvious Joseph Prasad sock.

  • First edit of suspected sock was to revert a revert I made to an edit of Prasad's last sock, Kelsey102.
  • First edit made to one of Prasad's admitted favorite articles to edit, Drake Bell Discography
  • Ten articles edited today, almost 1/3 of them are articles Prasad has edited heavily before his indef block. Intersect contribs evidence found here
  • Account created on February 18, 2016 [5] -- two days after Prasad's last known sock, Kelsey102, was blocked [6]

Completely obvious WP:DUCK, requesting CU and check for sleepers. -- WV 02:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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11 March 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

One look at this user's contributions results in loud quacking. Request CU and sleeper check. As always. Pinging Bbb23. -- WV 19:29, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23: In regard to the CU result ("Bell Boy DB3 is unrelated"): technically, maybe. IP addresses can change, ISPs can change, operating systems can change, phones and tablets can be used instead of the computers previously used, and so on. Even if it really isn't JP, there is a "relation" between DB and JP because their fourth edit - just a few minutes after their first edit - was to the Carl Perkins article. To go within just a few minutes from a Drake Bell-related article to the 50s rockabilly recording artist Carl Perkins and then revert a revert I made to that article per G5 as it related to one of JPs most recent socks raises more than one red flag (see both my reversion and DB's here: [7], [8]). Remember, each article DB edited is either Drake Bell related (one of JP's admitted editing fixations) or an article JP edited (as in the case of Carl Perkins). Regardless of the CU outcome, I still think it's JP, but I suppose it could be a case of WP:MEAT. -- WV 21:21, 13 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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Not again. Is there any way that an administrator can stop account creation from his IP range? If not, I'm thinking a CBAN proposal might be in order, although I am suggesting it tentatively because I don't see any primary reasons as to how it will stop a sockpuppeteer. -- Ches (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

Note User was indefinitely blocked last night (approximately 9PM, my time) by Yamaguchi for "block evasion" - I always thought that block evasion was when a user edited under an IP address following a block? Their unblock request included NPA violations targeted towards the blocking admin and Winkelvi. -- Ches (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC) reply
Pinging Winkelvi and Bbb23: There is no way the accounts aren't both JP's, even if the IPs are different. How would a new user know about SPIs and where to find them? Seems outlandish. IMHO the block should stay, even if it is under the wrong criterion, but I will leave the final decision up to the blocking admin. IMHO it's not a meatpuppet. -- Ches (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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07 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we go again.

Evidence is as follows:

  • Third and fourth edits, three minutes after this account's first edit, was to a Drake Bell article, JP's admitted favorite Wikipedia article subject [9]
  • Account's second edit was to a music article where the suspected sock added content related to Drake Bell [10]
  • Another edit by this user was to an anime article, [11] a topic JP stated on his User Page that he has an interest in [12]
  • Edit today that tipped me off to this account as a likely sock of JP was a revert of a G5 revert I made after JP's last sock was blocked [13]
  • Edit to Prasad's favorite Wikipedia article that he felt a degree of ownership with, Drake Bell here
  • Per the Intersect Contributions tool, suspected sock and sockmaster have 6 out of 9 articles in common with only 11 edits completed. [14]
  • Account created 10 days after last known JP sock was blocked and tagged. [15], [16]

Requesting CU and check for other accounts and sleepers because of this user's history of used socks and sleepers created. As well, because there is a three week lapse in editing in this account's history, I believe it likely there is another sock account also being used. In JP's editing history, it was extremely rare for him to take more than a day or two off from editing Wikipedia. -- WV 02:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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18 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Same as all the others:

  • Reverts G5 revert(s) I completed from previous Joseph Prasad socks. [17], [18], [19]
  • The Babymetal article revert was a re-revert of a G5 that the most recently caught Prasad sock reverted from my previous G5 of a prior Prasad sock. He's now being so obvious, it almost seems pathological, to be honest.
  • First edit is to a Drake Bell related article - his stated obsession article-wise is anything Drake Bell [20]
  • Second and third edits are to place ref improve banners on articles (new users don't do this kind of thing - Prasad socks are known for executing edits that only experienced users would perform) [21], [22]

Duck, duck, goose. Can something be done here that will be long-lasting? A WP:LTA permaban, rangeblock, something? He's obviously going to keep coming back over unless something more is done.

As always, asking for CU and check for sleepers as he's also known for creating those. Pinging Mike V, Ponyo and Bbb23 as being all too familiar with this kid and his refusal to go away - hoping for a quick resolution and block. He's moving quickly with this sock account and making a lot of edits, better to nip it in the bud ASAP than let him continue disrupting unfettered while getting more editing satisfaction. -- WV 16:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23, in regard to the CU finding over GeneralazationsAreGood12 and your further note regarding behavioral evidence, is the behavioral evidence to be gathered and presented by you, another admin, an SPI clerk? How does that work? -- WV 01:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply
Bbb23, I will put together what I can. Thanks for responding so promptly. -- WV 01:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply
Bbb23, I've been unable to come up with anything on my own to tie this account behaviorally with Joseph Prasad or his socks at this time. -- WV 09:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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I don't recall having any bad moments with Joseph Prasad, so this is puzzling to me. Music is not my topic area of choice, although I might have reverted them while RC-patrolling. GAB Hello! 19:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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19 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Do we really need to keep compiling mountains of the same evidence for this serial sock creator to be blocked each time he creates a new one? (that was mostly sarcastic and rhetorical, by the way - I know how the process needs to work)

Because I am short on time at the moment and would like to see this obvious sock blocked ASAP, I am giving these two pieces of evidence: account created about nine hours after the latest sock was blocked; two of the edits made was to revert my G5 revert of their revert, etc. [23], [24] I'm sure there will be more of these G5 re-reverts to come, as that is how this sockmaster rolls.

And this is a weird: the sock created another sock as the sock? [25] I'll leave that for the reviewing admins and CU to sort out.

Tedious, simply quite boring and tedious. Would love to see a community ban/LTA ban of this individual as well as a range-block, if possible. It's apparent Joseph Prasad gets a kick out of being an irritation and making all of us run around and chase him. His preschool-like antics are getting more and more disruptive. Something permanent needs to be done, it would seem. I beseech admins to make a bold move in regard to him. He's not going to be stopped until something is done on our end to stop him.

Again, in the hope of having this taken care of soon before more disruption occurs, pinging those most familiar with this irritation: Bbb23, Ponyo, Mike V. Requesting CU, check for sleepers, blah, blah, blah. -- WV 16:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

I have no problem with not mentioning it again, Bbb23, now that you've acknowledged you have seen my request and that nothing along those lines can be done. That said, it would have been more appropriate for you to say earlier that it wasn't possible when I first mentioned it, rather than completely ignoring my previous requests/queries on the subject. One of the biggest problems I've noted in regard to non-admin/admin relations and communication is that admins often ignore valid questions and requests from non-admins, as if we are annoying children, to be seen but not heard or paid attention to. I asked a question, you didn't answer it, therefore I felt I had every right and reason to ask the same thing again. Not answering is bad enough, but it's disrespectful and rude when you later chastise the person asking the question more than once because you didn't take the time to answer in the first place. Had you or someone else responded before, I wouldn't have had to repeat myself. -- WV 21:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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22 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Obvious duck for all the same reasons as before: same articles, same Drake Bell stuff, same following me around. One look at their contributions history says it all [26].

CU, please and check for sleepers. Pinging Bbb23, Ponyo, Mike V. -- WV 19:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23: Someone is intentionally creating socks so they can pretend to be a JP sock. Wow. The lengths people will go to get attention boggles the mind. -- WV 15:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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20 July 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Duck.

  • Same articles edited as Joseph Prasad and his numerous confirmed socks, including Drake Bell, one of Joseph Prasad's admitted editing obsessions.
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against the Joseph Prasad account here: [38]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Falsetto202 here: [39]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Calom180 here: [40]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Zeke201 here: [41]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Jones210 here: [42]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account DragonBall207 here: [43]

Editing history above says it all. Because this sock wasn't created until eight days ago, I have to wonder what other socks Joseph Prasad has been using since his last sock-block. Requesting checkuser as well as a check for other socks and sleepers. -- WV 01:50, 20 July 2016 (UTC) reply

Pinging Ponyo for familiarity with past Joseph Prasad socks. -- WV 02:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC) reply

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22 August 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Suspected sock reverted an edit from July that was a revert of confirmed Joseph Prasad sock. This behavior is typical of Prasad's socks: create a new sock account with a name and successive number in the username, make a few music- or teenage-related edits over a few week's time, then revert at least one reversion I have made of a Prasad sock. Reversion here [44]. -- WV 16:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC) reply

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 Confirmed, blocked, tagged, closing.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:23, 22 August 2016 (UTC) reply


23 August 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we go again. Summer break from high school must be over.

WP:DUCK. Revert of this to this on same day another Prasad sock was bagged, blocked, and tagged. -- WV 03:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply

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06 February 2017

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Joseph Prasad

Joseph Prasad ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log· investigate · cuwiki)
07 June 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • Using the Editor Interaction Analyzer, it's certain there are articles they have in common. For editing here a little less than a month, I find it suspicious they would have these articles AND three editor talk pages in common. See results here.
  • Suspected sock was created at the time suspected sock master Joseph Prasad was starting to get in trouble again with edit warring - around May 9-11 (Prasad was blocked again on May 11).
  • Both suspected sock and sockmaster have a habit of not using edit summaries.
  • It's a red flag when a brand new user immediately un-redlinks their user page. Another red flag is a brand new user saying they are here to fight vandalism in their first edit: "I made this account on Wikipedia, because I want to stop vandalism in articles and make all information here on Wikipedia correct with sources too." A new user who already knows about vandalism in Wikipedia and the importance of sources (since when does a new user know to use the term "sources")?
  • The following edit summary was also a red flag: not the kind of thing a brand new user would say -- especially one whose other comments are less succinct and more without real purpose (almost as if they are trying hard to sound like an inexperienced newbie). The edit summary doesn't sound like a newbie at all "I think the best way we should all agree with this edit is that we should discuss this on the talk page first before adding them back the article." Diff is found here.
  • Joseph Prasad has already been caught using a block-evading sock a few days ago (see User:Deadpool100) - Deadpool and FrozenFan have one article in common, Patrick Warburton.
  • Joseph Prasad had a tendency to be VERY touchy and take many things personally in regard to his editing -- it is the same for FrozenFan2. See the following exchanges between MarnetteD and FrozenFan2 (also note the similarity in wording and immature tone used by both FrozenFan and Joseph Prasad (keep in mind that Joseph Prasad is only 16 years old) [1], [2], [3].

At the very least, this is a DUCK. I do believe, however, based on the evidence that they are the same user and Joseph Prasad is using yet another sock account. Request check for sleepers. -- WV 23:02, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Note: For what it's worth evidence-wise, within minutes of creating this report and the subsequent notifications posted on the talk pages of the sockmaster and suspected sock, Joseph Prasad commented on his talk page. Almost immediately, the suspected sock, FrozenFan2, put comments on JPs talk page. Ever since, they have been replying to each other with rapid speed ( see here). -- WV 23:32, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply


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I said it once and I'm going to confirm it again. I'm not Joseph Prasad, I'm letting you guy's know that, just to clear things up here. I have no idea who he is, and I've never heard of that user name in my life. I never had that account here before, I already confirmed it on another sockpuppet discussion page, because there was also another sock puppet discusstion about me on another page in the past. In that one, everyone thought I was Atomic Meltdown, but I'm not. I don't understand why everyone keeps accusing me of being another user/same person.I'm not that user at all. I already confirmed it before. FrozenFan2 ( talk) 23:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC) reply

Take a look here on his talk page, this will prove to you guy's I'm not him. /info/en/?search=User_talk:Joseph_Prasad#Sockpuppet_investigation

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09 June 2015
Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • IP is the same as Prasad's admitted IP address as given by him in his comments here (near the bottom of the page): "My IP is 76.14.125.113."
  • Commenting on an article (Meghan Trainor-related) that he has/had special interest in as well as the Drake Bell article (another article he has/had special interest) as well as significant contributions to.
  • Joseph Prasad has been blocked very recently for socking ( see here).

More than a duck, this is certainly Joseph Prasad. -- WV 03:53, 9 June 2015 (UTC) reply

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17 August 2015

Suspected sockpuppets

Editing same articles as Joseph Prasad and IP sock; edit warring behavior very similar; same use and non-use of edit summaries; edit warring over genres; account created the same day Prasad was blocked on March 15, 2015.

  • Suspected sock account is currently blocked for edit warring and other disruptive editing. Suspected sock had received numerous warnings for the same kind of behavior Joseph Prasad is known for: stubbornly reintroducing content reverted by other editors after receiving warnings, not using edit summaries, edit warring, and genre changes. Suspected sock talk page with warnings here.
  • Suspected sock, just like Joseph Prasad, largely avoids use of edit summaries. When edit summaries are used, it is in the same fashion as Joseph Prasad: long explanations with excessive detail. For example: suspected sock here and Joseph Prasad here.
  • Suspected sock account was created the same day as Joseph Prasad received a two-week block on March 25, 2015. It was utilized more heavily the day after Prasad received a month-long block on April 4, 2015. It was then abandoned for nearly the entire month-long block was in place and then use of it began again (May 23, 2015) after Prasad received a six month block that began on May 11, 2015. See block log evidence here and suspected sock account's contributions from right after account creation here.

Looks like a duck, but I believe the block log timeline and articles edited evidence points squarely at sockmaster Joseph Prasad for block-evasion. Requesting C/U and check for sleepers as this account was created five months ago. It seems likely there are more on standby and with the suspected sock account now blocked, at least one of them will probably come out of dormancy. -- WV 19:00, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply

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  • I'm not really seeing the connection. Gekuta6 is very interested in the rapper Nelly, but Joseph Prasad and confirmed sock Deadpool100 never touched Nelly material. The various edits that have been made to artist discographies by Gekuta6 and the Joseph Prasad/Deadpool100 sock group are not supportive of each other—there's no edit warring over the same content. For instance, at the Justin Bieber discography, Gekuta6 was consistently trying to delete some songs that were not supported by Justin Bieber's Journals. Deadpool100 and Joseph Prasad (and IP 76.14.125.113) did nothing like that; they just made one or two minor changes. Binksternet ( talk) 21:24, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply
Aside from a decent number of articles in common ( Drake (rapper) and Justin Bieber being two of Prasad's article obsessions and the suspected sock having heavily edited both), the biggest giveaway is the timeline of suspected sock account creation and usage. Both coincide with Prasad's account being blocked for long periods. The suspected sock account was created the same day as a longer-term block for Prasad back in March. Coincidence? I don't think so. -- WV 21:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC) reply

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24 January 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Evidence is as follows:

  • Joseph Prasad is currently blocked for edit warring; block was done by Swarm on January 21, 2015.
  • Joseph Prasad has an established history of socking for block evasion. After he was blocked six months by Only for persistent, intentional edit warring on May 11, 2015 he was then blocked on June 2, 2015 for blocked six months by KWW as a result of block evasion while using the account, User:Deadpool100.
  • He was spotted as continuing to sock with the account User:DragonBall207 in August 2015. At the time of that report, a checkuser found he also had a sleeper account, User:Tampo401. All three were blocked.
  • Today, Joseph Prasad used the IP sock being reported at his account talk page here and here. While his edits were not obviously indicative of an intention to sock outside his talk page, however, it seems "fishy" that he edited his talk page with the IP and then almost immediately removed the comments by the other editor and himself as the IP editor from his talk page. Possibly to hide this IP he used/has used previously? (see contribution history of IP here).
  • This IP was used as a block evading sock for four months during Joseph Prasad's 6 month block (see complete contribution history here).
  • Undoubtedly, this is Joseph Prasad because of the geolocate evidence but also because of the articles in common: see Intersect contribs here.
  • Whatever the case, it is troubling that Joseph Prasad is technically socking during this current block, AND it appears he continued to sock further during his 6 month block, as evidenced by the IP's editing history. Because of his history of using IPs and sock accounts for block evasion, I felt it was prudent to bring it to the attention of SPI clerks and admins. This user seems intent to continue to break the rules, no holds barred.

I realize a CU would not be done for the IP being reported, but ask for a sleeper account check because of this user's history of frequent blocks (including his current block), creating sleepers, and block evasion. -- WV 02:15, 24 January 2016 (UTC) reply

Pinging Jezebel's Ponyo and Bbb23 for their familiarity with this user as a sockmaster. -- WV 02:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC) reply

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  • With the heavy block log including previous socking and socking while blocked (by behavior), I'm concluding that this person is not here to contribute within policy and have indefinitely blocked them. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 01:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC) reply

11 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Joseph Prasad was blocked indefinitely on January 29, 2016 for violation of sockpuppetry and, from what it seems in the blocking admin's notes, WP:NOTHERE. A week later, the Jones210 account was created at 22:51 on February 5, 2016.

  • Out of the 22 articles the suspected sock has edited, nearly half of them have been articles edited numerous times by Joseph Prasad.
  • Most notably edited are two of Joseph Prasad's favorite articles to edit (admitted by him as his favorite priority articles), Drake Bell and Drake Bell discography.
  • Intersecting Contribs report result showing these same articles edited here.
  • I find it not coincidental but revealing that both accounts, with what appears to be a strong interest in pop-music related articles, would edit the article of an American football player ( Matt Moore (American football). It seems out of character for someone editing pop-music articles to edit the article of a NFL player, yet both of these accounts have edited the same NFL player.

This does seem like a strong duck, but I am confident a CU will reveal them to be the same individual. Requesting CU as well as a check for sleepers and other accounts also currently being used because of Joseph Prasad's history of sockpuppetry when blocked. Am pinging Amanda as the last admin to block and review the most recent SPI for Prasad as well as Jezebel's Ponyo, Swarm, Kww, and Bbb23 for their familiarity with the blocked user's editing habits, block history, and previous socking. -- WV 17:10, 11 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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Good catch, Binksternet. -- WV 18:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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17 February 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Joseph Prasad has been blocked for WP:NOTHERE and sockpuppetry since January 29, 2016.

Report evidence is as follows:

  • Aside from the account being reported here, his most recent sockpuppet, User:Jones210 was created February 5, 2016.
  • The Jones210 account was blocked at 10:06 on February 12, 2016.
  • Suspected sock account was created at 17:55 on February 12, 2016, just short of eight hours after the Jones210 account was blocked.
  • Suspected sock being reported here has four articles in common with sockmaster Joseph Prasad. Intersect Contribs report results here: [4].
  • One of the edits made today by the Kelsey102 account was to revert this edit done after the Jones210 account had been blocked -- an edit that returns the content to Jones210's last edit there.
  • An article edited by Kelsey102 but not Joseph Prasad or Jones210 is I Know (Drake Bell song). It should be noted that the sockmaster, Joseph Prasad, has an admitted editing obsession with Drake Bell and has edited many Bell-related articles.
  • Kelsey102 has (save for one article) only edited music artist/discography articles. Joseph Prasad, for the most part, also edited music artist/discography articles.

Evidence says "duck". Requesting CU and check for sleepers and other accounts currently being used and created by the sockmaster. Pinging Bbb23, Jezebel's Ponyo, Amanda, Swarm, and Kww for their familiarity with this blocked user's sockpuppet history. -- WV 01:48, 17 February 2016 (UTC) reply

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05 March 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Fifth verse, same as the first. Another obvious Joseph Prasad sock.

  • First edit of suspected sock was to revert a revert I made to an edit of Prasad's last sock, Kelsey102.
  • First edit made to one of Prasad's admitted favorite articles to edit, Drake Bell Discography
  • Ten articles edited today, almost 1/3 of them are articles Prasad has edited heavily before his indef block. Intersect contribs evidence found here
  • Account created on February 18, 2016 [5] -- two days after Prasad's last known sock, Kelsey102, was blocked [6]

Completely obvious WP:DUCK, requesting CU and check for sleepers. -- WV 02:25, 5 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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11 March 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

One look at this user's contributions results in loud quacking. Request CU and sleeper check. As always. Pinging Bbb23. -- WV 19:29, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23: In regard to the CU result ("Bell Boy DB3 is unrelated"): technically, maybe. IP addresses can change, ISPs can change, operating systems can change, phones and tablets can be used instead of the computers previously used, and so on. Even if it really isn't JP, there is a "relation" between DB and JP because their fourth edit - just a few minutes after their first edit - was to the Carl Perkins article. To go within just a few minutes from a Drake Bell-related article to the 50s rockabilly recording artist Carl Perkins and then revert a revert I made to that article per G5 as it related to one of JPs most recent socks raises more than one red flag (see both my reversion and DB's here: [7], [8]). Remember, each article DB edited is either Drake Bell related (one of JP's admitted editing fixations) or an article JP edited (as in the case of Carl Perkins). Regardless of the CU outcome, I still think it's JP, but I suppose it could be a case of WP:MEAT. -- WV 21:21, 13 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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Not again. Is there any way that an administrator can stop account creation from his IP range? If not, I'm thinking a CBAN proposal might be in order, although I am suggesting it tentatively because I don't see any primary reasons as to how it will stop a sockpuppeteer. -- Ches (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2016 (UTC) reply

Note User was indefinitely blocked last night (approximately 9PM, my time) by Yamaguchi for "block evasion" - I always thought that block evasion was when a user edited under an IP address following a block? Their unblock request included NPA violations targeted towards the blocking admin and Winkelvi. -- Ches (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC) reply
Pinging Winkelvi and Bbb23: There is no way the accounts aren't both JP's, even if the IPs are different. How would a new user know about SPIs and where to find them? Seems outlandish. IMHO the block should stay, even if it is under the wrong criterion, but I will leave the final decision up to the blocking admin. IMHO it's not a meatpuppet. -- Ches (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2016 (UTC) reply

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07 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we go again.

Evidence is as follows:

  • Third and fourth edits, three minutes after this account's first edit, was to a Drake Bell article, JP's admitted favorite Wikipedia article subject [9]
  • Account's second edit was to a music article where the suspected sock added content related to Drake Bell [10]
  • Another edit by this user was to an anime article, [11] a topic JP stated on his User Page that he has an interest in [12]
  • Edit today that tipped me off to this account as a likely sock of JP was a revert of a G5 revert I made after JP's last sock was blocked [13]
  • Edit to Prasad's favorite Wikipedia article that he felt a degree of ownership with, Drake Bell here
  • Per the Intersect Contributions tool, suspected sock and sockmaster have 6 out of 9 articles in common with only 11 edits completed. [14]
  • Account created 10 days after last known JP sock was blocked and tagged. [15], [16]

Requesting CU and check for other accounts and sleepers because of this user's history of used socks and sleepers created. As well, because there is a three week lapse in editing in this account's history, I believe it likely there is another sock account also being used. In JP's editing history, it was extremely rare for him to take more than a day or two off from editing Wikipedia. -- WV 02:30, 7 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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18 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Same as all the others:

  • Reverts G5 revert(s) I completed from previous Joseph Prasad socks. [17], [18], [19]
  • The Babymetal article revert was a re-revert of a G5 that the most recently caught Prasad sock reverted from my previous G5 of a prior Prasad sock. He's now being so obvious, it almost seems pathological, to be honest.
  • First edit is to a Drake Bell related article - his stated obsession article-wise is anything Drake Bell [20]
  • Second and third edits are to place ref improve banners on articles (new users don't do this kind of thing - Prasad socks are known for executing edits that only experienced users would perform) [21], [22]

Duck, duck, goose. Can something be done here that will be long-lasting? A WP:LTA permaban, rangeblock, something? He's obviously going to keep coming back over unless something more is done.

As always, asking for CU and check for sleepers as he's also known for creating those. Pinging Mike V, Ponyo and Bbb23 as being all too familiar with this kid and his refusal to go away - hoping for a quick resolution and block. He's moving quickly with this sock account and making a lot of edits, better to nip it in the bud ASAP than let him continue disrupting unfettered while getting more editing satisfaction. -- WV 16:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23, in regard to the CU finding over GeneralazationsAreGood12 and your further note regarding behavioral evidence, is the behavioral evidence to be gathered and presented by you, another admin, an SPI clerk? How does that work? -- WV 01:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply
Bbb23, I will put together what I can. Thanks for responding so promptly. -- WV 01:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply
Bbb23, I've been unable to come up with anything on my own to tie this account behaviorally with Joseph Prasad or his socks at this time. -- WV 09:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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I don't recall having any bad moments with Joseph Prasad, so this is puzzling to me. Music is not my topic area of choice, although I might have reverted them while RC-patrolling. GAB Hello! 19:36, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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19 April 2016

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Do we really need to keep compiling mountains of the same evidence for this serial sock creator to be blocked each time he creates a new one? (that was mostly sarcastic and rhetorical, by the way - I know how the process needs to work)

Because I am short on time at the moment and would like to see this obvious sock blocked ASAP, I am giving these two pieces of evidence: account created about nine hours after the latest sock was blocked; two of the edits made was to revert my G5 revert of their revert, etc. [23], [24] I'm sure there will be more of these G5 re-reverts to come, as that is how this sockmaster rolls.

And this is a weird: the sock created another sock as the sock? [25] I'll leave that for the reviewing admins and CU to sort out.

Tedious, simply quite boring and tedious. Would love to see a community ban/LTA ban of this individual as well as a range-block, if possible. It's apparent Joseph Prasad gets a kick out of being an irritation and making all of us run around and chase him. His preschool-like antics are getting more and more disruptive. Something permanent needs to be done, it would seem. I beseech admins to make a bold move in regard to him. He's not going to be stopped until something is done on our end to stop him.

Again, in the hope of having this taken care of soon before more disruption occurs, pinging those most familiar with this irritation: Bbb23, Ponyo, Mike V. Requesting CU, check for sleepers, blah, blah, blah. -- WV 16:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

I have no problem with not mentioning it again, Bbb23, now that you've acknowledged you have seen my request and that nothing along those lines can be done. That said, it would have been more appropriate for you to say earlier that it wasn't possible when I first mentioned it, rather than completely ignoring my previous requests/queries on the subject. One of the biggest problems I've noted in regard to non-admin/admin relations and communication is that admins often ignore valid questions and requests from non-admins, as if we are annoying children, to be seen but not heard or paid attention to. I asked a question, you didn't answer it, therefore I felt I had every right and reason to ask the same thing again. Not answering is bad enough, but it's disrespectful and rude when you later chastise the person asking the question more than once because you didn't take the time to answer in the first place. Had you or someone else responded before, I wouldn't have had to repeat myself. -- WV 21:33, 19 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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22 April 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Obvious duck for all the same reasons as before: same articles, same Drake Bell stuff, same following me around. One look at their contributions history says it all [26].

CU, please and check for sleepers. Pinging Bbb23, Ponyo, Mike V. -- WV 19:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Bbb23: Someone is intentionally creating socks so they can pretend to be a JP sock. Wow. The lengths people will go to get attention boggles the mind. -- WV 15:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC) reply

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20 July 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Duck.

  • Same articles edited as Joseph Prasad and his numerous confirmed socks, including Drake Bell, one of Joseph Prasad's admitted editing obsessions.
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against the Joseph Prasad account here: [38]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Falsetto202 here: [39]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Calom180 here: [40]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Zeke201 here: [41]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account Jones210 here: [42]
  • Editor interaction analyzer results against Dragunov402 and the Joseph Prasad sock account DragonBall207 here: [43]

Editing history above says it all. Because this sock wasn't created until eight days ago, I have to wonder what other socks Joseph Prasad has been using since his last sock-block. Requesting checkuser as well as a check for other socks and sleepers. -- WV 01:50, 20 July 2016 (UTC) reply

Pinging Ponyo for familiarity with past Joseph Prasad socks. -- WV 02:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC) reply

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22 August 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Suspected sock reverted an edit from July that was a revert of confirmed Joseph Prasad sock. This behavior is typical of Prasad's socks: create a new sock account with a name and successive number in the username, make a few music- or teenage-related edits over a few week's time, then revert at least one reversion I have made of a Prasad sock. Reversion here [44]. -- WV 16:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC) reply

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 Confirmed, blocked, tagged, closing.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 17:23, 22 August 2016 (UTC) reply


23 August 2016

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we go again. Summer break from high school must be over.

WP:DUCK. Revert of this to this on same day another Prasad sock was bagged, blocked, and tagged. -- WV 03:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply

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06 February 2017

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