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19 October 2018

Suspected sockpuppets


AlphaKGN and RoseRalph both have the hallmarks of paid editors, with their first edits showing a high degree of prior knowledge regarding WP editing. However, the reason for asking a SPI is the crossover on Draft:Jones–Tino and Draft:Daniel Levine (author) - there is no connection between the article subjects, and both have only had significant edits by the two accounts. Otherwise, very similar edit summaries between the two. Both are very unlikely to be the master, but I don't know what account that woudl be. Bilby ( talk) 07:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Bilby - I'm currently looking at the contributions between the two accounts and the contributions made to both the draft articles you listed here. To help me with making direct comparisons, can you provide a few example diffs between both accounts where you see that their edit summaries are similar and exactly why (if not obvious)? Are there any other diffs that you can provide that will help me see direct similarities between the two? Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I just found one. I see that this edit by AlphaKGN and this edit by RoseRalph both have edit summaries that state "Expanded lead paragraph" - are there any more that you found? ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:36, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I found another. This edit and this edit between the two users have a similar edit summary that state "Added image, improved links". ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Bbb23: I appreciate the compliment and will tuck it under my pillow and treasure it, but I think it's more likely that I've just been around here too long.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks for identifying the master! I can flag that for the future. - Bilby ( talk) 22:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply

08 November 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

This is a yet another case of undisclosed paid editing and the suspected sock was registered a week after AlphaKGN ‎ was blocked. There are some behavioural similarities between NTfisher and AlphaKGN which I'm not feeling comfortable sharing here so requesting CU for technical evidence. GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:40, 8 November 2018 (UTC) reply

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20 December 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Based on some outer-wiki evidence Basevoter belongs to the same paid sock farm and creating the same kind of promotional articles so requesting CU for technical help to see if they have more accounts. Chaimsash was registered two days back and made no edits outside editing draft created by Basevoter. GSS ( talk| c| em) 03:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Added Anuradhawrites who created Dance USA Dance which was later expanded by AlphaKGN ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki). GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Further off-wiki evidence makes it extremely likely that Basevoter is a sock of this group, despite the ISP. Blocked and tagged. Yunshui  雲 水 09:28, 21 December 2018 (UTC) reply

28 December 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

HarryLeap belongs to the same upwork profile and created SAFE Network. Wbrasp was registered back in 2016 and made their first edit in December 2018. Requesting CU to get technical help. GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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HarryLeap ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
and
WillPeppers ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
are  Likely, plus with the off-wiki evidence provided by email I have no problem believing this is the same paid-editing firm. Wbrasp ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) is geographically distinct and appears Red X Unrelated, although this wouldn't be the first time this group had outlier SPAs that didn't seem to be technically connected to the main sock-drawer. Given Wbrasp's timing and edits, I have aslo blocked them as a suspected sock. Yunshui  雲 水 22:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

30 November 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

SPA creating all their previously deleted paid articles. GSS  💬 16:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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Johnsaavn

Johnsaavn ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)

19 October 2018

Suspected sockpuppets


AlphaKGN and RoseRalph both have the hallmarks of paid editors, with their first edits showing a high degree of prior knowledge regarding WP editing. However, the reason for asking a SPI is the crossover on Draft:Jones–Tino and Draft:Daniel Levine (author) - there is no connection between the article subjects, and both have only had significant edits by the two accounts. Otherwise, very similar edit summaries between the two. Both are very unlikely to be the master, but I don't know what account that woudl be. Bilby ( talk) 07:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply

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  • Bilby - I'm currently looking at the contributions between the two accounts and the contributions made to both the draft articles you listed here. To help me with making direct comparisons, can you provide a few example diffs between both accounts where you see that their edit summaries are similar and exactly why (if not obvious)? Are there any other diffs that you can provide that will help me see direct similarities between the two? Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I just found one. I see that this edit by AlphaKGN and this edit by RoseRalph both have edit summaries that state "Expanded lead paragraph" - are there any more that you found? ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:36, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I found another. This edit and this edit between the two users have a similar edit summary that state "Added image, improved links". ~Oshwah~ (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Bbb23: I appreciate the compliment and will tuck it under my pillow and treasure it, but I think it's more likely that I've just been around here too long.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply
Thanks for identifying the master! I can flag that for the future. - Bilby ( talk) 22:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC) reply

08 November 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

This is a yet another case of undisclosed paid editing and the suspected sock was registered a week after AlphaKGN ‎ was blocked. There are some behavioural similarities between NTfisher and AlphaKGN which I'm not feeling comfortable sharing here so requesting CU for technical evidence. GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:40, 8 November 2018 (UTC) reply

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20 December 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Based on some outer-wiki evidence Basevoter belongs to the same paid sock farm and creating the same kind of promotional articles so requesting CU for technical help to see if they have more accounts. Chaimsash was registered two days back and made no edits outside editing draft created by Basevoter. GSS ( talk| c| em) 03:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Added Anuradhawrites who created Dance USA Dance which was later expanded by AlphaKGN ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki). GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Further off-wiki evidence makes it extremely likely that Basevoter is a sock of this group, despite the ISP. Blocked and tagged. Yunshui  雲 水 09:28, 21 December 2018 (UTC) reply

28 December 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

HarryLeap belongs to the same upwork profile and created SAFE Network. Wbrasp was registered back in 2016 and made their first edit in December 2018. Requesting CU to get technical help. GSS ( talk| c| em) 04:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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HarryLeap ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
and
WillPeppers ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
are  Likely, plus with the off-wiki evidence provided by email I have no problem believing this is the same paid-editing firm. Wbrasp ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki) is geographically distinct and appears Red X Unrelated, although this wouldn't be the first time this group had outlier SPAs that didn't seem to be technically connected to the main sock-drawer. Given Wbrasp's timing and edits, I have aslo blocked them as a suspected sock. Yunshui  雲 水 22:46, 28 December 2018 (UTC) reply

30 November 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

SPA creating all their previously deleted paid articles. GSS  💬 16:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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