Indo12122
- Indo12122 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
22 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- Magadhan3933 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Whataboutery19192 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
User account created 6 days after Magadhan3933 was blocked. Continues their edits at Chola invasion of Kedah. At, Seleucid–Mauryan war, they more or less restored [1] Magadhan3933's edit [2]. EIA is also already similar [3] HistoryofIran ( talk) 21:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Edit: Ops, my bad, forgot about Indo12122 for a sec. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 23:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Confirmed. Earliest known master currently is
Indo12122 via
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonharojjashi.
Clerk assistance requested: - Please rename this case to reflect the master.
Izno (
talk) 23:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC) -
Clerk note: @
Izno: I don't understand. Where exactly was connection between those two accounts and Jonharojjashi established?
Vanjagenije
(talk) 19:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ Vanjagenije, I found the connection between Indo and Mag at that SPI, that's all. Indo should be the name of this page. Izno ( talk) 19:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Done
Vanjagenije
(talk) 19:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Closing Izno ( talk) 19:27, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
25 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- Layman7676 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
- Account created a day after Indo12122's sock Whataboutery19192 was blocked, too much of a coincidence.
- At Lalitaditya Muktapida, both editors try to oppose Yashovarman being a vassal through POV pushing [4] [5]
- Like Indo12122, Whataboutery19192 and Magadhan3933, Layman7676's name also ends with a bunch of numbers, not a really stealthy move.
- Both randomly removes a space between words [6] [7] and then revert themselves [8] [9]. Seems like they are trying to quickly and cheaply amass more edits. I don't think it's an accident, since Whataboutery19192 [10] [11] and Layman7676 [12] [13] [14] does this more than once. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 14:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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It appears that there may be a coordinated effort behind these suspicious edits. Magadhan3933 attempted to communicate with User:Shakib al Hasan, who provided contact information. Additionally, Magadhan3933 sought a means to contact User:Gspgoat. Notably, User:Shakib al Hasan has changed their account to User:Sudsahab (clarifying that this isn't sock puppetry). I'm adding this comment to highlight the possibility of meat puppetry, as the involved users may not be aware of it. Imperial [AFCND] 14:37, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Confirmed.
Blocked and tagged. Closing.
Callanecc (
talk •
contribs •
logs) 09:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
28 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- TeraBhai349 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
- Brand new account created two days after the latest sock was blocked.
- Both TeraBhai349 and Indo12122's sock has written in Talk:Maurya Empire demanding changes to the infobox map with many of the same sources [15] [16]
- Both pov pushing by adding their own opinions at Lalitaditya Muktapida, which I reverted [17] [18]
If they're not the same person, then imo it's just more proof that there is a massive off-Wiki cooperation ongoing. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonharojjashi. HistoryofIran ( talk) 18:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- TeraBhai349 is
Inconclusive from a technical standpoint. In the course of my check, I found
Chakravartin1929 (
talk
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tag ·
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cuwiki), which is Confirmed to the past sock Layman7676. Chakravartin1929
Blocked and tagged. Leaving the case open for a closer behavioral look at TeraBhai349.
Mz7 (
talk) 20:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC) - Behavioral evidence indicates either sockpuppetry or indistinguishable meatpuppetry.
Blocked and tagged. Closing. PS: noticed that Indo meets the criteria for
WP:3X, tagged accordingly.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 16:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
20 January 2024
Suspected sockpuppets
- Guchhemane556 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
Blatant sockpupetry, they replied to a comment made to Indo12122's sock TeraBhai349 by spamming it [19]. Could a checkuser please be done to check if they have other socks lying around? HistoryofIran ( talk) 14:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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- I blocked Guchhemane556, who is obviously someone's sock. No tags yet. Leaving this open for a CU check to dig up sleepers. I would also suggest a check of
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thewikiuser1999 and associated socks based on
this overlap.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 14:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
-
Firefangledfeathers - CU isn't conclusive, but I'd put this in the
Likely/ Technically indistinguishable category. I'm going to go a bit 'magic 8-ball' on this - the technical data would be consistent with this being Indo12122, but I can't say that it's confirmed. Sleeper sweeping is difficult in this territory - there are a lot of users who look similar, and there is a lot of abuse from multiple different masters. You've looked at the behaviour - feel free to tag as you think best.
Girth Summit
(blether) 22:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks
Girth Summit. Any suggestion of overlap with Thewikiuser?
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 22:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- CU says: 'meh'. Same large country, same ubiquitous ISP, different range. Similar exceedingly common user agent - any difference would be explained by (a) the device having had an update or (b) it being someone else. If you want a template I'd say
Possible, 
Behavioural evidence needs evaluation.
Girth Summit
(blether) 22:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- CU says: 'meh'. Same large country, same ubiquitous ISP, different range. Similar exceedingly common user agent - any difference would be explained by (a) the device having had an update or (b) it being someone else. If you want a template I'd say
- Thanks
Girth Summit. Any suggestion of overlap with Thewikiuser?
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 22:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
-
Firefangledfeathers - CU isn't conclusive, but I'd put this in the
- Thanks GS! Tagged as a suspected Indo sock. Will drop a note at the TWU1999 SPI in case the connection pops up again. Closing. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 22:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
20 February 2024
Suspected sockpuppets
- Zenithxxx ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Maniacdude ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
Zenithxxx is a brand new user created five days after the latest Indo12122 sock was blocked [20]. Not a traditional journey of a new user, for example by their third edit they are apparently already aware of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section [21]
Both attempting to push a legend as a fact in order to Indianize Kingdom of Khotan [22] [23] HistoryofIran ( talk) 20:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
EDIT: This has been up for some time, would appreciate if someone could look into it. This is clearly not the traditional journey of a user, and the coincidence of appearing five days after the sock is too suspicious. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 00:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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- I don't know who Indo21221 is, also my intention wasn't to "push a legend as a fact', the legend is agreed to be the origins by a lot of sources (If you want I'll post more) hence why I thought there was decent credibility to post it. If anything the saka origin has less validity as it's mainly based on language evidence (in that case it can also be said to be a Gandharan kingdom also with how Gandhari Prakrit was a major language of the kingdom).
Maniacdude (
talk) 17:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also Im using this account as I've temporarily lost access to my laptop which has my Zenith account. (This account is on my mobile and I made it at the same time as my Zenith account as a backup for when I don't have access to my laptop as I travel often.) Maniacdude ( talk) 18:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ive added on both pages that theyre alternative accounts, is there anything else I need to do? I dont quite understand points 1 and 3 on the alternative account page. Zenithxxx ( talk) 12:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
-
Maniacdude
Zenithxxx I won't comment on the likelihood that you are Indo12122, but as you have made it clear that both the reported accounts belong to one person, you must disclose the connection between those accounts. See
WP:ALTACCN for the ways to do that.
Izno (
talk) 02:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Zenithxxx Item 1 may be done by WP:RENAME. Item 3 may be done by adding a WP:CUSTOMSIG for whichever account you intend to be the alternate account. Izno ( talk) 18:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Zenithxxx and Maniacdude are
Unrelated to Indo12122 as far as CU goes. For what it's worth, I did block
Jatinmunro as a Confirmed sockpuppet today.
Maxim (
talk) 12:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC) -
Requested actions completed, closing
The Wordsmith
Talk to me 22:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Indo12122
- Indo12122 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
22 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- Magadhan3933 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Whataboutery19192 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
User account created 6 days after Magadhan3933 was blocked. Continues their edits at Chola invasion of Kedah. At, Seleucid–Mauryan war, they more or less restored [1] Magadhan3933's edit [2]. EIA is also already similar [3] HistoryofIran ( talk) 21:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Edit: Ops, my bad, forgot about Indo12122 for a sec. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 23:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Confirmed. Earliest known master currently is
Indo12122 via
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonharojjashi. Clerk assistance requested: - Please rename this case to reflect the master.
Izno (
talk) 23:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
-
Clerk note: @
Izno: I don't understand. Where exactly was connection between those two accounts and Jonharojjashi established?
Vanjagenije
(talk) 19:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- @ Vanjagenije, I found the connection between Indo and Mag at that SPI, that's all. Indo should be the name of this page. Izno ( talk) 19:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Done
Vanjagenije
(talk) 19:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Closing Izno ( talk) 19:27, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
25 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- Layman7676 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
- Account created a day after Indo12122's sock Whataboutery19192 was blocked, too much of a coincidence.
- At Lalitaditya Muktapida, both editors try to oppose Yashovarman being a vassal through POV pushing [4] [5]
- Like Indo12122, Whataboutery19192 and Magadhan3933, Layman7676's name also ends with a bunch of numbers, not a really stealthy move.
- Both randomly removes a space between words [6] [7] and then revert themselves [8] [9]. Seems like they are trying to quickly and cheaply amass more edits. I don't think it's an accident, since Whataboutery19192 [10] [11] and Layman7676 [12] [13] [14] does this more than once. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 14:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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It appears that there may be a coordinated effort behind these suspicious edits. Magadhan3933 attempted to communicate with User:Shakib al Hasan, who provided contact information. Additionally, Magadhan3933 sought a means to contact User:Gspgoat. Notably, User:Shakib al Hasan has changed their account to User:Sudsahab (clarifying that this isn't sock puppetry). I'm adding this comment to highlight the possibility of meat puppetry, as the involved users may not be aware of it. Imperial [AFCND] 14:37, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Confirmed.
Blocked and tagged. Closing.
Callanecc (
talk •
contribs •
logs) 09:36, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
28 December 2023
Suspected sockpuppets
- TeraBhai349 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
- Brand new account created two days after the latest sock was blocked.
- Both TeraBhai349 and Indo12122's sock has written in Talk:Maurya Empire demanding changes to the infobox map with many of the same sources [15] [16]
- Both pov pushing by adding their own opinions at Lalitaditya Muktapida, which I reverted [17] [18]
If they're not the same person, then imo it's just more proof that there is a massive off-Wiki cooperation ongoing. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jonharojjashi. HistoryofIran ( talk) 18:14, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- TeraBhai349 is
Inconclusive from a technical standpoint. In the course of my check, I found
Chakravartin1929 (
talk
+ ·
tag ·
contribs ·
deleted contribs ·
logs ·
filter log ·
block user ·
spi block ·
block log ·
CA ·
CheckUser(
log) ·
investigate ·
cuwiki), which is Confirmed to the past sock Layman7676. Chakravartin1929
Blocked and tagged. Leaving the case open for a closer behavioral look at TeraBhai349.
Mz7 (
talk) 20:19, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Behavioral evidence indicates either sockpuppetry or indistinguishable meatpuppetry.
Blocked and tagged. Closing. PS: noticed that Indo meets the criteria for
WP:3X, tagged accordingly.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 16:13, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
20 January 2024
Suspected sockpuppets
- Guchhemane556 ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
Blatant sockpupetry, they replied to a comment made to Indo12122's sock TeraBhai349 by spamming it [19]. Could a checkuser please be done to check if they have other socks lying around? HistoryofIran ( talk) 14:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- I blocked Guchhemane556, who is obviously someone's sock. No tags yet. Leaving this open for a CU check to dig up sleepers. I would also suggest a check of
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thewikiuser1999 and associated socks based on
this overlap.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 14:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
-
Firefangledfeathers - CU isn't conclusive, but I'd put this in the
Likely/ Technically indistinguishable category. I'm going to go a bit 'magic 8-ball' on this - the technical data would be consistent with this being Indo12122, but I can't say that it's confirmed. Sleeper sweeping is difficult in this territory - there are a lot of users who look similar, and there is a lot of abuse from multiple different masters. You've looked at the behaviour - feel free to tag as you think best.
Girth Summit
(blether) 22:03, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks
Girth Summit. Any suggestion of overlap with Thewikiuser?
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 22:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- CU says: 'meh'. Same large country, same ubiquitous ISP, different range. Similar exceedingly common user agent - any difference would be explained by (a) the device having had an update or (b) it being someone else. If you want a template I'd say Possible, Behavioural evidence needs evaluation.
Girth Summit
(blether) 22:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- CU says: 'meh'. Same large country, same ubiquitous ISP, different range. Similar exceedingly common user agent - any difference would be explained by (a) the device having had an update or (b) it being someone else. If you want a template I'd say
- Thanks
Girth Summit. Any suggestion of overlap with Thewikiuser?
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 22:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
-
Firefangledfeathers - CU isn't conclusive, but I'd put this in the
- Thanks GS! Tagged as a suspected Indo sock. Will drop a note at the TWU1999 SPI in case the connection pops up again. Closing. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 22:53, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
20 February 2024
Suspected sockpuppets
- Zenithxxx ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Maniacdude ( talk + · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser( log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • SPI Tools
Zenithxxx is a brand new user created five days after the latest Indo12122 sock was blocked [20]. Not a traditional journey of a new user, for example by their third edit they are apparently already aware of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section [21]
Both attempting to push a legend as a fact in order to Indianize Kingdom of Khotan [22] [23] HistoryofIran ( talk) 20:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
EDIT: This has been up for some time, would appreciate if someone could look into it. This is clearly not the traditional journey of a user, and the coincidence of appearing five days after the sock is too suspicious. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 00:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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- I don't know who Indo21221 is, also my intention wasn't to "push a legend as a fact', the legend is agreed to be the origins by a lot of sources (If you want I'll post more) hence why I thought there was decent credibility to post it. If anything the saka origin has less validity as it's mainly based on language evidence (in that case it can also be said to be a Gandharan kingdom also with how Gandhari Prakrit was a major language of the kingdom).
Maniacdude (
talk) 17:58, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also Im using this account as I've temporarily lost access to my laptop which has my Zenith account. (This account is on my mobile and I made it at the same time as my Zenith account as a backup for when I don't have access to my laptop as I travel often.) Maniacdude ( talk) 18:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ive added on both pages that theyre alternative accounts, is there anything else I need to do? I dont quite understand points 1 and 3 on the alternative account page. Zenithxxx ( talk) 12:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
-
Maniacdude
Zenithxxx I won't comment on the likelihood that you are Indo12122, but as you have made it clear that both the reported accounts belong to one person, you must disclose the connection between those accounts. See
WP:ALTACCN for the ways to do that.
Izno (
talk) 02:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Zenithxxx Item 1 may be done by WP:RENAME. Item 3 may be done by adding a WP:CUSTOMSIG for whichever account you intend to be the alternate account. Izno ( talk) 18:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Zenithxxx and Maniacdude are
Unrelated to Indo12122 as far as CU goes. For what it's worth, I did block
Jatinmunro as a Confirmed sockpuppet today.
Maxim (
talk) 12:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
-
Requested actions completed, closing
The Wordsmith
Talk to me 22:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)