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Gzornenplatz has engaged in frequent edit wars on many pages, including Nagaland and George W. Bush. He has refused, on various notes, to discuss these edits with his edit war counterparts, and has therefore disrupted the Wikipedia (by forcing protection on several articles on which he edit warred). I am, therefore, most respectfully requesting your comments.
Additionally, as I added on October 5, 2004 (around 20:38, UTC), he made a personal attack on Sam Spade's request for adminship, and have therefore modified the diffs and policies involved to include that.
As of 21:38, 6 Oct, 2004, he has also deleted my (Simonides') request for page protection on Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection and replaced it with a request to unprotect the page though the current debate on the Talk page is not yet resolved. I believe I called this vandalism, but it may simply be a very bad breach of Wikiquette.
As of 7 Oct, 2004, User:Gzornenplatz has hit four reverts on an article without making use of the Talk page, for the third time in four days, this time on India where a discussion was ongoing.
As of 8 Oct, 2004, this user continues to make reverts on image pages, and continues to make false claims about his behaviour, mostly recently on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, e.g.: he states that he explained his reverts on Talk:India when in fact he joined the discussion a day after it started, and well after the article was protected, and only about 20 mins before posting that claim on the former page. Further, this user never co-operates or contributes in any way to the articles/images that he criticizes, effectively using constant reverts as an MO to get his POV enforced without any editorial effort on his part.
As of 23:12, 11 Oct 2004, this user continues to revert the following images which have reached consensus among other users: India - Nagaland , India - Numbered, and has stated he will no longer engage in further discussion at Talk:India.
As of 18 Oct, 2004, this user has returned to edit warring on India despite consensus on the Talk page among other users, and despite an abritation request ( Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Gzornenplatz.2C_Kevin_Baas.2C_Shorne.2C_VeryVerily) commenced against him and other users for the same behaviour.
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I would be all too happy to follow the three-revert rule, provided it is enforced against everyone. I did follow it for months, only to see that nothing happened to those who don't, such as VeryVerily and Gene Poole. The description above is false, it is not me who has refused to discuss things. On Template:Sep11, for example, I explained my edit, I responded to comments by others, but my opponent in the edit war, VeryVerily, did not explain his edits in the slightest. On Nagaland, Simonides, without doing the slightest to explain his edit (i.e. he didn't say what he thought was wrong about the map which he insisted on describing as inaccurate), instead asked me to prove a negative (when I said there is nothing wrong with it, he said "prove it")! Gzornenplatz 02:38, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC) Ugen64 is now on a strange crusade against me. The supposed "personal attack" is my stated opinion that Sam Spade is a troll. The same opinion of course has been expressed in an even stronger way by sysop RickK, which Ugen apparently doesn't mind. Gzornenplatz 20:53, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
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It is never proper to engage in edit wars and Gzornenplatz shows a history of doing just that, so I do not disagree with the main complaint. That being said, other users have exacerbated the problem by themselves participating in edit wars with Gzornenplatz. Frustration is no call for exhibiting the same behaviour as what Gzornenplatz is being accused of.
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1) Gzornenplatz and VeryVerily are banned from editing any article having to do with German or Polish subjects whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops may use their discretion in determining what falls into these areas, and are hereby authorised to enact 24 hour blocks for violations of this.
2) Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, and VeryVerily are banned from reverting any article more than twice in one 24 hour period whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops are hereby authorised to enact 24 blocks for violations of this.
See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily. -- mav 11:41, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
In order to remain listed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment, at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the same dispute, not different disputes. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with ~~~~. If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 02:04, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is: 21:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC).
This is a summary written by users who dispute this user's conduct. Users signing other sections should not edit here.
Gzornenplatz has engaged in frequent edit wars on many pages, including Nagaland and George W. Bush. He has refused, on various notes, to discuss these edits with his edit war counterparts, and has therefore disrupted the Wikipedia (by forcing protection on several articles on which he edit warred). I am, therefore, most respectfully requesting your comments.
Additionally, as I added on October 5, 2004 (around 20:38, UTC), he made a personal attack on Sam Spade's request for adminship, and have therefore modified the diffs and policies involved to include that.
As of 21:38, 6 Oct, 2004, he has also deleted my (Simonides') request for page protection on Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection and replaced it with a request to unprotect the page though the current debate on the Talk page is not yet resolved. I believe I called this vandalism, but it may simply be a very bad breach of Wikiquette.
As of 7 Oct, 2004, User:Gzornenplatz has hit four reverts on an article without making use of the Talk page, for the third time in four days, this time on India where a discussion was ongoing.
As of 8 Oct, 2004, this user continues to make reverts on image pages, and continues to make false claims about his behaviour, mostly recently on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, e.g.: he states that he explained his reverts on Talk:India when in fact he joined the discussion a day after it started, and well after the article was protected, and only about 20 mins before posting that claim on the former page. Further, this user never co-operates or contributes in any way to the articles/images that he criticizes, effectively using constant reverts as an MO to get his POV enforced without any editorial effort on his part.
As of 23:12, 11 Oct 2004, this user continues to revert the following images which have reached consensus among other users: India - Nagaland , India - Numbered, and has stated he will no longer engage in further discussion at Talk:India.
As of 18 Oct, 2004, this user has returned to edit warring on India despite consensus on the Talk page among other users, and despite an abritation request ( Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Gzornenplatz.2C_Kevin_Baas.2C_Shorne.2C_VeryVerily) commenced against him and other users for the same behaviour.
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This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete.
I would be all too happy to follow the three-revert rule, provided it is enforced against everyone. I did follow it for months, only to see that nothing happened to those who don't, such as VeryVerily and Gene Poole. The description above is false, it is not me who has refused to discuss things. On Template:Sep11, for example, I explained my edit, I responded to comments by others, but my opponent in the edit war, VeryVerily, did not explain his edits in the slightest. On Nagaland, Simonides, without doing the slightest to explain his edit (i.e. he didn't say what he thought was wrong about the map which he insisted on describing as inaccurate), instead asked me to prove a negative (when I said there is nothing wrong with it, he said "prove it")! Gzornenplatz 02:38, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC) Ugen64 is now on a strange crusade against me. The supposed "personal attack" is my stated opinion that Sam Spade is a troll. The same opinion of course has been expressed in an even stronger way by sysop RickK, which Ugen apparently doesn't mind. Gzornenplatz 20:53, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
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It is never proper to engage in edit wars and Gzornenplatz shows a history of doing just that, so I do not disagree with the main complaint. That being said, other users have exacerbated the problem by themselves participating in edit wars with Gzornenplatz. Frustration is no call for exhibiting the same behaviour as what Gzornenplatz is being accused of.
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1) Gzornenplatz and VeryVerily are banned from editing any article having to do with German or Polish subjects whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops may use their discretion in determining what falls into these areas, and are hereby authorised to enact 24 hour blocks for violations of this.
2) Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, and VeryVerily are banned from reverting any article more than twice in one 24 hour period whilst Arbitration is on-going. Sysops are hereby authorised to enact 24 blocks for violations of this.
See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily. -- mav 11:41, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)