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If there's an important biology paper with 10 authors, is it customary to list the primary author or principal investigator last? Alternatively would the main contributor come first? In the paper I'm thinking of, I believe the main result came out of joint work between the PI and a postdoc working for him, with various others also making contributions. The postdoc is listed first, then the others, and then the PI is last. It's a little bit odd that the PI's Wikipedia biography more or less describes it as a solo result by the PI. Not to diminish his contribution and maybe I have it wrong, but I thought in other places I'd seen, credit was apportioned between the PI and postdoc about equally. The paper is doi:10.1038/nature14432 which has all the names. They are not otherwise in alphabetical order or anything like that. I'm wondering whether I should adjust the wording in the biography, or alternatively bring it up on the biography's talk page. There are several separate biology articles related to the discovery itself, and those articles don't seem to have this issue. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:DDAF ( talk) 00:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Biology/medicine isn't my field at all so maybe I'm overglamorizing it, but this paper struck me as important to the point that "consideration for tenure" might be less of an issue than "consideration for Nobel" ;-). The article meningeal lymphatic vessels describes some of the background. If that's the case, it's something that science historians might want to document carefully someday. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:DDAF ( talk) 18:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I have been watching the YouTube videos of a man, (Mizra Md Arif), in Odisha, India, who rescues venonmous snakes, from people. (And people from the snakes!) He goes to village homes/areas, and safely removes the snakes, for later release in a forest area. In three of the videos, after removal, the Monocled Cobras have regurgitated their prey. I am puzzled, as to why they should do this, as the process deprives them of nourishment, and leaves them vunerable, during the process.
I have watched twenty or more of his videos, and he does not mistreat the snakes, AFAICT, although being captured is stressful, of course. (Here are only two examples of his kind treatment. [4] [5])
In one video, two kittens were regurgitated, [6] and in another, three chicken/fowl eggs. The most amazing, was the regurgitation of a snake that had been eaten by the cobra. The first, 2/3, or so, looked fine, but the last part regurgitated, had been digested, so that all that remained were the vertebrate of the spine. (Can't find the link, just yet.) Any thoughts as to why the cobras would do this? Sorry if this is an unpleasant topic. I do understand that snakes require a regurgitation mechanisim, in case they are attempting to eat prey that is too large, etc.. but in the examples cited/seen, this did not seem to be a factor. Thanks! Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 01:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
The obvious answer would be "because people on the ship feed them", but I have also seen it suggested that they're mainly doing it so they can slipstream the ship and that they chase it still even when there's no food. 146.200.128.134 ( talk) 02:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Are there any measurement methods for human ageing rate (possibly telomere length measurement, etc) to verify if a person indeed ages slower compared to some baseline? This is partially inspired by the fact that, despite being 34, I was asked several times to show ID when buying alcohol to prove I'm above 18 (although I was masked due to pandemic, and at least once I was checked so at a nightclub entrance); and 4 years ago when I went to a free cardiovascular checkup, the guy stated that based on my data my heart was younger by two years (meaning the heart was reportedly working as if in 28). 212.180.235.46 ( talk) 11:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to add a description of the EX39 Exclusionary Mogul Screw light bulb base to Edison screw#Types, as described on this "bulbamerica.com" page: What is the difference between E39 and EX39 base?. Can you help me find a better reference, preferably an industry specification? -- ToE 18:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm guessing that jungle is one of the worst climates, Northeast America and North Europe somewhat better and Egypt is better still as there are readable papyri from 26th century. Are there better climates than Egypt? Can it be too dry? Is cold and dry better than hot and dry? Is heat or cold bad, or just constant temperature swings or freezing cycles like Mongolia or not even that? Is altitude good? How much windowlight do you need to cause extra exterior fading of a well-preserved for its age but still almost unreadable bookshelf book? Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 20:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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If there's an important biology paper with 10 authors, is it customary to list the primary author or principal investigator last? Alternatively would the main contributor come first? In the paper I'm thinking of, I believe the main result came out of joint work between the PI and a postdoc working for him, with various others also making contributions. The postdoc is listed first, then the others, and then the PI is last. It's a little bit odd that the PI's Wikipedia biography more or less describes it as a solo result by the PI. Not to diminish his contribution and maybe I have it wrong, but I thought in other places I'd seen, credit was apportioned between the PI and postdoc about equally. The paper is doi:10.1038/nature14432 which has all the names. They are not otherwise in alphabetical order or anything like that. I'm wondering whether I should adjust the wording in the biography, or alternatively bring it up on the biography's talk page. There are several separate biology articles related to the discovery itself, and those articles don't seem to have this issue. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:DDAF ( talk) 00:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Biology/medicine isn't my field at all so maybe I'm overglamorizing it, but this paper struck me as important to the point that "consideration for tenure" might be less of an issue than "consideration for Nobel" ;-). The article meningeal lymphatic vessels describes some of the background. If that's the case, it's something that science historians might want to document carefully someday. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:DDAF ( talk) 18:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I have been watching the YouTube videos of a man, (Mizra Md Arif), in Odisha, India, who rescues venonmous snakes, from people. (And people from the snakes!) He goes to village homes/areas, and safely removes the snakes, for later release in a forest area. In three of the videos, after removal, the Monocled Cobras have regurgitated their prey. I am puzzled, as to why they should do this, as the process deprives them of nourishment, and leaves them vunerable, during the process.
I have watched twenty or more of his videos, and he does not mistreat the snakes, AFAICT, although being captured is stressful, of course. (Here are only two examples of his kind treatment. [4] [5])
In one video, two kittens were regurgitated, [6] and in another, three chicken/fowl eggs. The most amazing, was the regurgitation of a snake that had been eaten by the cobra. The first, 2/3, or so, looked fine, but the last part regurgitated, had been digested, so that all that remained were the vertebrate of the spine. (Can't find the link, just yet.) Any thoughts as to why the cobras would do this? Sorry if this is an unpleasant topic. I do understand that snakes require a regurgitation mechanisim, in case they are attempting to eat prey that is too large, etc.. but in the examples cited/seen, this did not seem to be a factor. Thanks! Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 01:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
The obvious answer would be "because people on the ship feed them", but I have also seen it suggested that they're mainly doing it so they can slipstream the ship and that they chase it still even when there's no food. 146.200.128.134 ( talk) 02:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Are there any measurement methods for human ageing rate (possibly telomere length measurement, etc) to verify if a person indeed ages slower compared to some baseline? This is partially inspired by the fact that, despite being 34, I was asked several times to show ID when buying alcohol to prove I'm above 18 (although I was masked due to pandemic, and at least once I was checked so at a nightclub entrance); and 4 years ago when I went to a free cardiovascular checkup, the guy stated that based on my data my heart was younger by two years (meaning the heart was reportedly working as if in 28). 212.180.235.46 ( talk) 11:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to add a description of the EX39 Exclusionary Mogul Screw light bulb base to Edison screw#Types, as described on this "bulbamerica.com" page: What is the difference between E39 and EX39 base?. Can you help me find a better reference, preferably an industry specification? -- ToE 18:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm guessing that jungle is one of the worst climates, Northeast America and North Europe somewhat better and Egypt is better still as there are readable papyri from 26th century. Are there better climates than Egypt? Can it be too dry? Is cold and dry better than hot and dry? Is heat or cold bad, or just constant temperature swings or freezing cycles like Mongolia or not even that? Is altitude good? How much windowlight do you need to cause extra exterior fading of a well-preserved for its age but still almost unreadable bookshelf book? Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 20:26, 24 September 2020 (UTC)