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French elections and relative counting

Hi, it's a bit of a special question, mostly for those of French nationality. Here is my request: how does the counting of votes in France consist? As can be seen from the photo of the link, during a possible ballot (I'm talking about Presidential Elections), the voter is given two ballots then I was unable to quail; it is only one that goes in an envelope for the secrecy of the vote cast, to be inserted in the ballot box, but where does the other end go? Thank you. https://apnews.com/article/2be81cf0db704845bc3d1ec3c2359314 This ☝️

Which link?  -- Lambiam 09:05, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm not French, but Voting in France, for Foreigners says that the card which goes into the envelope is the actual ballot-paper, the other card is a voter registration card, which has to be stamped by an election official. This image shows a voter with her registration card or carte électorale along with proof of identity (a driver's licence?) which is also required. Alansplodge ( talk) 11:02, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
The voter picks up as many ballot papers as they want (ideally one of each candidate but there's no actual obligation) then inserts one into an envelope which they seal. Unused ballots are simply discarded. The voter then presents their voter registration and ID to the officials who confirm that the voter has the right to vote at which point they announce "may vote" and the "urn" (a transparent box with a sealable slot in the top) is manually opened and the envelope dropped in, at which point the official announces "has voted" and the urn is closed.
Sometime later, the urn is emptied and the envelope opened. Envelopes containing anything other than one unmodified ballot or with any identifying marking on the outside are discounted.
this all probably seems like a rather labour-intensive approach, but is meant to guarantee that the ballot is never outside the immediate visual control of the election observers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.166.15.114 ( talk) 11:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I think there is a requirement for the voter to pick up at least two ballots to take to the voting booth where they (should) put one in the envelope.  -- Lambiam 22:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply

Has there been any "fact-list" compendium?

Is there a format of reference work in which information is displayed in list format, with more importance given to the individual facts and without phrasing it as an article, book or compendium format. i.e., a virtual bullet list of facts, description and information. I am actually looking to create WikiSpore:WikiFacts Spore, a fact-list site. Has there been any work like that before? Thank you.- Vis M ( talk) 19:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply

I guess you're looking for an Almanac?
ApLundell ( talk) 19:30, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Oh, if you're looking for examples of books of dry facts, don't miss the Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences. (Formerly available as a hardcover book!), or taken to the extreme, try the book A Million Random Digits, which I'm sure is a real page-turner. ApLundell ( talk) 19:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Here are some facts to get started:
  • "backwards" spelled backwards is "sdrawkcab".
  • April 1, 1866, fell on a Sunday.
  • The middle name of U.S. President Grover Cleveland was "Grover".
  • The word "absolutely" does not contain all vowels; the "i" is missing.
  • 34 × 37787 − 2 = 1284756.
  • Mars is a planet. It is also the name of a Roman god. And the surname of Bruno Mars. Except that is not his real name.
Good luck.  -- Lambiam 23:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Reductio ad absurdum. Only the format is fact-list. Common sense and an inclusion criteria will apply. - Vis M ( talk) 23:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Here are a few more facts, and remember, "Nothing matters but the facts." [1].-- Shantavira| feed me 07:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
You could start by compiling every answer-and-question in the history of Jeopardy!. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
As ApLundell noted above, the closest thing to a "list of facts with no narrative" is an almanac. In the U.S., the Old Farmer's Almanac, the World Alamanc and Book of Facts, The World Factbook (which focuses on geography), Guiness Book of World Records, and the Information Please Almanac are several of the more famous ones that I have owned at various times in my life. I have also owned several specialty almanacs such as the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics or the Merck Index. Some of these books aren't published in paper format anymore, as their function has been largely replaced by online sources. -- Jayron 32 13:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Thank you! - Vis M ( talk) 18:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Another example might be our own Wikidata, here. — Steve Summit ( talk) 14:24, 5 June 2021 (UTC) [edited 10:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)] reply
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June 3 Information

French elections and relative counting

Hi, it's a bit of a special question, mostly for those of French nationality. Here is my request: how does the counting of votes in France consist? As can be seen from the photo of the link, during a possible ballot (I'm talking about Presidential Elections), the voter is given two ballots then I was unable to quail; it is only one that goes in an envelope for the secrecy of the vote cast, to be inserted in the ballot box, but where does the other end go? Thank you. https://apnews.com/article/2be81cf0db704845bc3d1ec3c2359314 This ☝️

Which link?  -- Lambiam 09:05, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I'm not French, but Voting in France, for Foreigners says that the card which goes into the envelope is the actual ballot-paper, the other card is a voter registration card, which has to be stamped by an election official. This image shows a voter with her registration card or carte électorale along with proof of identity (a driver's licence?) which is also required. Alansplodge ( talk) 11:02, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
The voter picks up as many ballot papers as they want (ideally one of each candidate but there's no actual obligation) then inserts one into an envelope which they seal. Unused ballots are simply discarded. The voter then presents their voter registration and ID to the officials who confirm that the voter has the right to vote at which point they announce "may vote" and the "urn" (a transparent box with a sealable slot in the top) is manually opened and the envelope dropped in, at which point the official announces "has voted" and the urn is closed.
Sometime later, the urn is emptied and the envelope opened. Envelopes containing anything other than one unmodified ballot or with any identifying marking on the outside are discounted.
this all probably seems like a rather labour-intensive approach, but is meant to guarantee that the ballot is never outside the immediate visual control of the election observers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.166.15.114 ( talk) 11:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
I think there is a requirement for the voter to pick up at least two ballots to take to the voting booth where they (should) put one in the envelope.  -- Lambiam 22:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply

Has there been any "fact-list" compendium?

Is there a format of reference work in which information is displayed in list format, with more importance given to the individual facts and without phrasing it as an article, book or compendium format. i.e., a virtual bullet list of facts, description and information. I am actually looking to create WikiSpore:WikiFacts Spore, a fact-list site. Has there been any work like that before? Thank you.- Vis M ( talk) 19:16, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply

I guess you're looking for an Almanac?
ApLundell ( talk) 19:30, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Oh, if you're looking for examples of books of dry facts, don't miss the Online Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences. (Formerly available as a hardcover book!), or taken to the extreme, try the book A Million Random Digits, which I'm sure is a real page-turner. ApLundell ( talk) 19:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Here are some facts to get started:
  • "backwards" spelled backwards is "sdrawkcab".
  • April 1, 1866, fell on a Sunday.
  • The middle name of U.S. President Grover Cleveland was "Grover".
  • The word "absolutely" does not contain all vowels; the "i" is missing.
  • 34 × 37787 − 2 = 1284756.
  • Mars is a planet. It is also the name of a Roman god. And the surname of Bruno Mars. Except that is not his real name.
Good luck.  -- Lambiam 23:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Reductio ad absurdum. Only the format is fact-list. Common sense and an inclusion criteria will apply. - Vis M ( talk) 23:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Here are a few more facts, and remember, "Nothing matters but the facts." [1].-- Shantavira| feed me 07:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
You could start by compiling every answer-and-question in the history of Jeopardy!. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
As ApLundell noted above, the closest thing to a "list of facts with no narrative" is an almanac. In the U.S., the Old Farmer's Almanac, the World Alamanc and Book of Facts, The World Factbook (which focuses on geography), Guiness Book of World Records, and the Information Please Almanac are several of the more famous ones that I have owned at various times in my life. I have also owned several specialty almanacs such as the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics or the Merck Index. Some of these books aren't published in paper format anymore, as their function has been largely replaced by online sources. -- Jayron 32 13:25, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Thank you! - Vis M ( talk) 18:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC) reply
Another example might be our own Wikidata, here. — Steve Summit ( talk) 14:24, 5 June 2021 (UTC) [edited 10:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)] reply

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