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February 15 Information

Does Google not like the New York Times?

For example, on googlenews a few minutes ago, there were many, many news organizations linked for today's shooting murders at a Florida high school, but no link for the nyt. At that moment, there was at least one posted story about the shooting on the nyt website. Rich ( talk) 03:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Google has complex algorithms for deciding what news to show you. Every user gets a unique experience, and it's impossible to say why you are not seeing a particular link in their searches; your experience is not universal. -- Jayron 32 03:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Also, the NYT, of which I am not exactly a fan philosophically, does at least usually wait to have a factually substantiated and analytical article to print before it addresses BREAKING NEWS. For a running chyron look elsewhere. μηδείς ( talk) 04:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
When I Newsgoogle "no words", they're number one. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Google does dislike certain sources ( e.g.), but the NYT is unlikely to be one. - 165.234.252.11 ( talk) 19:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
See filter bubble. 93.138.0.218 ( talk) 18:40, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
The OP edited his original question several times. There's no answer available at this point, since we don't have a time-stamped archive of what was posted when or what the OP's search terms were. It stretches AGF to take this as a request for references rather than a chat room come-on. μηδείς ( talk) 01:07, 17 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Non-profit UK

Please read WP:DISCLAIMER re professional advice, it is in your best interest
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I've been organising events of various sorts for a while, small gatherings of people with similar interests, and for the last few months have been working towards a larger organised event, one with tickets sold in advance, with a big budget for equipment hire and advertising and decoration, all paid for out of the ticket prices. My understanding from talking to other people that have done similar before is that I would want to register an official company to handle all this finance and other such details, likely some sort of non-profit organisation, since it's a not profitable group, run by volunteers, and associated with some local charities, but I'm not sure what type of organisation or where to go to register such, I'm having trouble navigating the government website, which I assume is where it'll have to be now, and thought maybe someone that's been there before might be able to help?

86.12.226.180 ( talk) 12:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Looking through that, it seems I'd want to just register a limited company and then tell people it's a non-profit organisation, there doesn't seem to be any separation between them. Most of what I need for now is some way of making the bank account for the event tickets be in the name of some organising company, rather than my personal account. Looking down the list, it wouldn't count as any sort of charity, sole trader seems to be what I already have for my tax self assessment, rather than a separate organisation, so it'd need to be registered as a standard limited company, even though I don't have any directors or business premises or shares. 86.12.226.180 ( talk) 13:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

  • We do not offer legal, financial, or tax advice. You would be best served by contacting a financial advisor or some other professional that specializes in this sort of thing.-- WaltCip ( talk) 13:57, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I think I have it now, only part I'm stuck on is that I can't register anything where the business address is the same as my home address. 86.12.226.180 ( talk) 14:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Referred OP to disclaimer, since shitcan of worms is the least of one's possible problems. It's like asking, "What is best, being sued, prosecuted, or robbed blind--and then prosecuted and sued for your troubles?" μηδείς ( talk) 01:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Why can't I edit a poorly written piece?

The Wiki article referencing the shooting at Marjory Stoneham Douglas High School is 'locked' "to prevent vandalism"? At the very end is a paragraph poorly written and badly in need of an edit... yet I cannot get in to mop up the mess. Why is this allowed? Shelaughs ( talk) 15:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I've located the article at Douglas High School shooting. Protection is commonplace when events are in the news. You can make a "protected edit request" on the article's talk page. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
{ec} :If you want to make edits with a new account or without one, please submit an edit request on the article's Talk page. Some pages are temporarily protected because there is a high risk of inaccurate or malicious editing, but it is indeed Wikipedia policy that such restrictions be applied only when necessary. As soon as you have an autoconfirmed account, you will be able to edit nearly all pages on Wikipedia. - Lindert ( talk) 15:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
There is no requirement for a contributor to register. There is also a procedure under which anyone can ask for the protection on an article to be removed. See the rubric at the head of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Oh, I see you're already registered. Wait four days or until you've made ten edits to become "autoconfirmed" as stated. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
And I see you're not a new editor. It's the "ten edits" that rules. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:38, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Also be aware, for questions of this nature, of the resources available at WP:TEA or WP:HELPDESK. Bus stop ( talk) 15:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply
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February 15 Information

Does Google not like the New York Times?

For example, on googlenews a few minutes ago, there were many, many news organizations linked for today's shooting murders at a Florida high school, but no link for the nyt. At that moment, there was at least one posted story about the shooting on the nyt website. Rich ( talk) 03:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Google has complex algorithms for deciding what news to show you. Every user gets a unique experience, and it's impossible to say why you are not seeing a particular link in their searches; your experience is not universal. -- Jayron 32 03:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Also, the NYT, of which I am not exactly a fan philosophically, does at least usually wait to have a factually substantiated and analytical article to print before it addresses BREAKING NEWS. For a running chyron look elsewhere. μηδείς ( talk) 04:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
When I Newsgoogle "no words", they're number one. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Google does dislike certain sources ( e.g.), but the NYT is unlikely to be one. - 165.234.252.11 ( talk) 19:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
See filter bubble. 93.138.0.218 ( talk) 18:40, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
The OP edited his original question several times. There's no answer available at this point, since we don't have a time-stamped archive of what was posted when or what the OP's search terms were. It stretches AGF to take this as a request for references rather than a chat room come-on. μηδείς ( talk) 01:07, 17 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Non-profit UK

Please read WP:DISCLAIMER re professional advice, it is in your best interest
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I've been organising events of various sorts for a while, small gatherings of people with similar interests, and for the last few months have been working towards a larger organised event, one with tickets sold in advance, with a big budget for equipment hire and advertising and decoration, all paid for out of the ticket prices. My understanding from talking to other people that have done similar before is that I would want to register an official company to handle all this finance and other such details, likely some sort of non-profit organisation, since it's a not profitable group, run by volunteers, and associated with some local charities, but I'm not sure what type of organisation or where to go to register such, I'm having trouble navigating the government website, which I assume is where it'll have to be now, and thought maybe someone that's been there before might be able to help?

86.12.226.180 ( talk) 12:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Looking through that, it seems I'd want to just register a limited company and then tell people it's a non-profit organisation, there doesn't seem to be any separation between them. Most of what I need for now is some way of making the bank account for the event tickets be in the name of some organising company, rather than my personal account. Looking down the list, it wouldn't count as any sort of charity, sole trader seems to be what I already have for my tax self assessment, rather than a separate organisation, so it'd need to be registered as a standard limited company, even though I don't have any directors or business premises or shares. 86.12.226.180 ( talk) 13:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

  • We do not offer legal, financial, or tax advice. You would be best served by contacting a financial advisor or some other professional that specializes in this sort of thing.-- WaltCip ( talk) 13:57, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I think I have it now, only part I'm stuck on is that I can't register anything where the business address is the same as my home address. 86.12.226.180 ( talk) 14:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Referred OP to disclaimer, since shitcan of worms is the least of one's possible problems. It's like asking, "What is best, being sued, prosecuted, or robbed blind--and then prosecuted and sued for your troubles?" μηδείς ( talk) 01:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Why can't I edit a poorly written piece?

The Wiki article referencing the shooting at Marjory Stoneham Douglas High School is 'locked' "to prevent vandalism"? At the very end is a paragraph poorly written and badly in need of an edit... yet I cannot get in to mop up the mess. Why is this allowed? Shelaughs ( talk) 15:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I've located the article at Douglas High School shooting. Protection is commonplace when events are in the news. You can make a "protected edit request" on the article's talk page. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
{ec} :If you want to make edits with a new account or without one, please submit an edit request on the article's Talk page. Some pages are temporarily protected because there is a high risk of inaccurate or malicious editing, but it is indeed Wikipedia policy that such restrictions be applied only when necessary. As soon as you have an autoconfirmed account, you will be able to edit nearly all pages on Wikipedia. - Lindert ( talk) 15:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
There is no requirement for a contributor to register. There is also a procedure under which anyone can ask for the protection on an article to be removed. See the rubric at the head of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Oh, I see you're already registered. Wait four days or until you've made ten edits to become "autoconfirmed" as stated. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
And I see you're not a new editor. It's the "ten edits" that rules. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. 86.169.57.217 ( talk) 15:38, 15 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Also be aware, for questions of this nature, of the resources available at WP:TEA or WP:HELPDESK. Bus stop ( talk) 15:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC) reply

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