- As per usual, the plebs think they should imitate the Septics in everything, and the shops are more than happy to assist. A few years ago, there were stampedes at shops, the year after there weren't. Seems to have been a short spike that retailers want to keep going.
Fgf10 (
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11:06, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Don't you mean Sceptics? As to the Swiss keeping the English title instead of translating it, the origin of the term might not make sense if translated literally into other languages. ←
Baseball Bugs
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12:54, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- I suspect thios is a variant of
sepo, from the Rhyming slang "septic tank" meaning
yank. --
Q Chris (
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13:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Cute. Well, Brits may consider "Yank" to be insulting, but we Yanks wear it like a badge of honor. (Them Brits are still a bit irritated about 1776 and all that.) ←
Baseball Bugs
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13:24, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- I'm English myself, and I do find attempted sales-driven cultural imports annoying but I don't think that it justifies insulting citizens of the originating country. BTW my wife is from Texas and she has quite a different opinion of "Yank" being a badge of honour ;-) --
Q Chris (
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13:29, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Well, there's an old saying that to a foreigner, a Yankee is an American. To a southerner, a Yankee is a northerner. To a northerner, a Yankee is a New Englander. And so on. (I've also heard it said that to a northerner a Texan is a southerner, but to a Texan a southerner is a southerner and a Texan is a Texan.) ←
Baseball Bugs
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13:51, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- I think I've heard of it with to a northerner a Yankee is a northeasterner (not sure if Illinoians, Minnesotans, Iowans, Wisconsinans, Michiganders and so on really think New Jerseyans and Pennsylvanians are yankees, perhaps they're confused by the
New York Yankees?), to a northeasterner he's a New Englander, to him he's a Vermonter and to a Vermonter he's a Vermonter who eats his porridge cold in an unheated outhouse with his
long john flap open in sub-freezing weather (or something like that). Really the Red Sox and Yankees would've made more sense with the names switched.
Sagittarian Milky Way (
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17:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- The Yankees and Red Sox were both originally "Americans", as opposed to "Nationals", referring to their leagues. "Yankees" came from that. The Boston Americans (who had previously worn blue) adopted red and the name "Red Sox" after the Boston Nationals (who were originally the Red Stockings) had temporarily dropped the red from their uniforms. ←
Baseball Bugs
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18:01, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- That wasn't very imaginative. And when they played each other it would've been the American League Americans vs the American League Americans. Do you know why it's Nationals, Orioles, Phillies, Yankees (alternating league, if only West CT and Long Island were more competitive and more Mets respectively the pattern could continue with Mets and Sox) and Redskins, Ravens, Eagles, Jets, Giants and Patriots have the same affiliation as baseball? (but the better NY team's usually National in football unlike baseball) Coincidence?
Sagittarian Milky Way (
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19:55, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Not quite. It would have been the New York Americans and the Boston Americans, as opposed to the New York Nationals and the Boston Nationals. Prior to the American League coming along, it would have been the New Yorks and the Bostons. And you're right that they weren't very imaginative. Marketing improved over time. So, you really want to get into these details? OK. :) In a nutshell: "Washington Nationals" echoes the name of one of the early ca. 1870 Washington teams. Orioles, named for the bird. Phillies, diminutive of "Philadelphia". Mets, for Metropolitans. Washington Redskins, originally Boston Redskins, named in reference to the Boston Braves. Ravens, suggestive of one of the poems of Baltimore's own Edgar Allan Poe. Eagles, patriotism. Jets, originally called Titans, renamed to rhyme with "Mets". Patriots, obvious. Philadelphia and Boston were both important cities in the American Revolution. ←
Baseball Bugs
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22:41, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Right but going from DC to Boston its National, American, National, both, American for both football and baseball and there's a nice alternation thing going on. I used the measure tool of Google Maps to draw lines between Boston and the most disfavorable center of DC (Capitol, not
Zero Milestone/obelisk/center of the "cross"/"Downtown"/White House) and Fenway and the DC ballparks and New York's ballparks since the Polo Grounds closed and it does appear that since '64 the Mets' stadium has always been very, very, very, very slightly Bostonward and Fenwayward of Yankee Stadium. So you could actually say they alternate National, American, National, American, National, American for 6 teams without resorting to trying to see if the Mets' fanbase is more northeastward than the Yankees'. But it's very slight, it's like Fenway's one end of a ruler, DC's the other end and Citi Field and Yankee Stadium are on opposite corners of a tick mark the width of a hair. Also I didn't try to estimate a best-fit line for the 5 cities or their ballparks or metro populations but the megalopolis is pretty straight.
Sagittarian Milky Way (
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01:10, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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- From 1901 thru 1971 the team in Washington was an American League team. And the Yankees played their games at Shea during 1974-75. The football Giants played their games in Connecticut during that same stretch. During 1901-1952 there were two teams in Boston. During 1901-1911 they played their games across the railroad tracks from each other. During 1901-1954 there were two teams in Philadelphia, and during 1938-1954 they shared the same ballpark. During 1913-1922 the Giants and Yankees both played in the Polo Grounds. The Mets' fan base was originally presumed to be "orphaned" Giants and Dodgers fans, which is ironic because they "hated" each other. ←
Baseball Bugs
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09:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Before 1958 was Manhattan bandwagon Yankees fans below a certain street? Was Queens Dodgers fans? If NY can't hold 3 MLB teams then why can it hold 3 NHL teams? Baseball's more popular than hockey in the area and the NHL likes to relocate and expand to small warm places like 1990s Raleigh and Nashville. Well, Houston's much bigger and Texas has half the NHL teams per capita of California.
Sagittarian Milky Way (
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21:10, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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- New York City and vicinity had three MLB teams during 1903-1957. The three current New York area NHL teams is kind of an odd situation. The histories of the major NYC sports teams is pretty detailed. You might want to read the articles about them. ←
Baseball Bugs
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22:00, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Firstly, as far as I know, Britons are not in the least irritated about 1776 and indeed celebrated your 200th anniversary by issuing stamps[
[3]] and casting bells [
[4]], among other things. Secondly, FG10 appears to be
Dutch and they happened to be
fighting the British at the time so if they hate you, it's for a different reason altogther. Thirdly many British people find the term Brit insulting, and lastly, your xenophobic comments don't belong here (or anywhere for that matter)!
No wonder people are trying to shut this shitshop down.[
[5]]--
Ykraps (
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17:00, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- FGF brought it up, so I assume he's the one you're yelling at. ←
Baseball Bugs
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17:05, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Your assumptions are your biggest problem.--
Ykraps (
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18:09, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Things could be worse. Any guesses what a good rhyming slang for "Brit" would be? ←
Baseball Bugs
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18:45, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- My mistake. You've obviously got much bigger problems.--
Ykraps (
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19:13, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- FGF brought it up. Or are his own xenophobic comments OK in your book? ←
Baseball Bugs
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19:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Evidently you don't know what the word xenophobic means. And it's you who seems to be obsessed with 1776. Ask the average Brit, and that date would be meaningless.
Fgf10 (
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20:27, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Denial. :) ←
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